Is forex trading more risky than index trading or stock trading? Why?

JackyCheung · Oct 31, 2014

i have a basket of sg blue chip+ mid cap+ small cap.
well, they did give me good dividend.....

only small cap make me lose big, the rest are doing fine. now i just stick to my blue chip investment. yearly yield about 4-5%, which give me -15-20k dividend and capital gain.

well, investment for me. mainly passive income. not for earn a living. too hard to trade to earn a living now.

johnny333 · Oct 31, 2014

JackyCheung said:
i have a basket of sg blue chip+ mid cap+ small cap.
well, they did give me good dividend.....

only small cap make me lose big, the rest are doing fine. now i just stick to my blue chip investment. yearly yield about 4-5%, which give me -15-20k dividend and capital gain.

well, investment for me. mainly passive income. not for earn a living. too hard to trade to earn a living now.

There are traders & investors. Traders are looking at the short term while investors are looking at the long term.

You can make money in both ways. However in todays uncertain market large retracements can occure. That is why many people are looking at short term investing i.e. trading.

It can be hard to be an investor, my Apple shares dropped to $490 levels from a high of $710 & I almost had a heart attack :eek:

However all is well since prices have recovered & is now at record levels :smile:

JackyCheung · Oct 31, 2014

johnny333 said:
There are traders & investors. Traders are looking at the short term while investors are looking at the long term.

You can make money in both ways. However in todays uncertain market large retracements can occure. That is why many people are looking at short term investing i.e. trading.

It can be hard to be an investor, my Apple shares dropped to $490 levels from a high of $710 & I almost had a heart attack However all is well since prices have recovered & is now at record levels

I bought apple before share split at 628.5. Well I earn some. Sold too early. Now record high.

I have this experience also. Just like my st engineering and singtel. Bought at 3.88..keep dropping to 3.56 3.57
Then I keep buying...now i got quite a bit of St engineering n singtel :smile:

They do give me good dividend. Why sell?

GOD IS MY DOG · Oct 31, 2014

awaiting our FOREX KING.......Sinkie to pop in and say how many thousands he made today in just minutes.............

and how many millions his mentor made in seconds................

Asterix · Oct 31, 2014

Survival of fittest that is the law
In all professions anyway
Useful principles can be extracted
But you must pay attention

[video=youtube;pWkzAvE5aQQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWkzAvE5aQQ[/video]

frenchbriefs · Oct 31, 2014

Asterix said:
Survival of fittest that is the law
In all professions anyway
Useful principles can be extracted
But you must pay attention

[video=youtube;pWkzAvE5aQQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWkzAvE5aQQ[/video]

whole show is a joke,they just focus on the drama and the bad traders thruout the entire thing,no time was spend on the "good traders" the black guy,the woman and the ex soldier.....didnt interview them about their trades,never ask them what their thought processes is,never discuss any market analysis.......after 3 hours of bullshit u learn nothing,dont even know what stocks the "good traders" hold.

krafty · Oct 31, 2014

what i mean to ask if he knew anything about the market, like recent fed finally stop buying bonds, today, BOJ decided to print more money and russia just raise their interest rates. why do they do this to america? i doubt sam really know why but he got a layman perception that is to do what you know best. he got a point... :smile:

Jah_rastafar_I said:
What krafty means is do you have any insider news or anything that will aid him in making money whether in stocks share or fx etc.

Leongsam said:
I have already told you over and over again the best place to invest is in yourself for the simple reason that you are in complete control over your own decisions and actions.

Everything else is guesswork.

krafty · Oct 31, 2014

You are right, very right, very wise...i like... :smile:

jackycheung said:
well, investment for me. Mainly passive income. Not for earn a living. Too hard to trade to earn a living now.

johnny333 · Oct 31, 2014

JackyCheung said:
I bought apple before share split at 628.5. Well I earn some. Sold too early. Now record high.

I have this experience also. Just like my st engineering and singtel. Bought at 3.88..keep dropping to 3.56 3.57
Then I keep buying...now i got quite a bit of St engineering n singtel

They do give me good dividend. Why sell?

I still own some AAPL shares that I bought for $3+ Actually paid more but the shares split a few times.

I have no regrets leaving the Spore market. I got out before the global recession hit Spore.

During the global financial panic no one was willing to to buy any Spore shares. Everything grounded to a halt & there was even the possibility of people withdrawing all their money from the banks. That is why the MAS had to step in to guarantee their deposits. The same scenario may happen again when LKY ups the lorry because there will be plenty of uncertainty.

I believe that there are plenty of skeletons that the PAP is hiding. I might be wrong but if I am right then there will be plenty of market turmoil.
GLCs like Singtel & ST will be under alot of scrutiny since these are highly politicised companies.

GOD IS MY DOG · Oct 31, 2014

GOD IS MY DOG said:
awaiting our FOREX KING.......Sinkie to pop in and say how many thousands he made today in just minutes.............

and how many millions his mentor made in seconds................

eh.................Sinkie haven't come in yet ah................

oh yeah................later he'll say he too busy making tens of thousands today................

while his mentor is quickly gaining on George Soros..................

Jah_rastafar_I · Nov 1, 2014

Krafty did u take the usdjpy trade that occurred today? More than 300 pips jump in like 4 hours, 1 hour it jumped up more than 100 pips.

Huat ah

Leongsam · Nov 1, 2014

krafty said:
what i mean to ask if he knew anything about the market, like recent fed finally stop buying bonds, today, BOJ decided to print more money and russia just raise their interest rates. why do they do this to america? i doubt sam really know why but he got a layman perception that is to do what you know best. he got a point...

I know the basics of economic theory but instead of trying to second guess what others are trying to do, it is far easier to know exactly what you are going to do because the decision is yours to make.

Traders try to spot market trends and take a punt to make some money. However, there are so many factors involved that it is impossible to predict.

However, if I start a business myself I know EXACTLY what needs to be done in order to make it profitable and I know pretty much how much I will be able to sell it for when I reach my revenue and profitability targets. It makes life so much easier than trying to predict world trends.

krafty · Nov 1, 2014

take profit 100 pips... :cool:

Jah_rastafar_I said:
Krafty did u take the usdjpy trade that occurred today? More than 300 pips jump in like 4 hours, 1 hour it jumped up more than 100 pips.

Huat ah

krafty · Nov 1, 2014

you say i bucket full of shit when i told you that i know a little of economics too... :rolleyes:

Leongsam said:
I know the basics of economic theory but instead of trying to second guess what others are trying to do, it is far easier to know exactly what you are going to do because the decision is yours to make.

Traders try to spot market trends and take a punt to make some money. However, there are so many factors involved that it is impossible to predict.

However, if I start a business myself I know EXACTLY what needs to be done in order to make it profitable and I know pretty much how much I will be able to sell it for when I reach my revenue and profitability targets. It makes life so much easier than trying to predict world trends.

babuSingh · Nov 1, 2014

Gold spot prices moves inversely against dollar prices. It is much easier to speculate and profits are much more exciting than boring forex.

frenchbriefs · Nov 1, 2014

Leongsam said:
I know the basics of economic theory but instead of trying to second guess what others are trying to do, it is far easier to know exactly what you are going to do because the decision is yours to make.

Traders try to spot market trends and take a punt to make some money. However, there are so many factors involved that it is impossible to predict.

However, if I start a business myself I know EXACTLY what needs to be done in order to make it profitable and I know pretty much how much I will be able to sell it for when I reach my revenue and profitability targets. It makes life so much easier than trying to predict world trends.

everyone knows that from watching shark tank and dragons den on tv,how much a business is worth from past revenues and profit margins growth.but they can only tell only when the business has grown after a certain number of years,when the business is actually showing results and making real money and growth.but before that its just a crapshoot and ur guess is as good as mine whether the business is going to be a success or a failure.so how can u gaurantee ur business and product will reach ur revenue and profitability targets?that is the hardest part,having shit that actually sells,a great product.the second hardest part is actually having the business skills and know how to set up a efficient and cost effective business.....thats why they say the skill of execution is more important than the idea.u can have a great idea but no brains and poor execution and ur business will still die,u can have a average idea and talent at executing the business,u will still make big bucks.

i should be a millionaire on shark tank.

krafty · Nov 1, 2014

just be careful with gold spot...i learnt that when it goes below 1200, chances it will rebound again. 1200 is the mining cost for gold, so if it goes down more than that, many gold mining companies will go kaput. moreover, you can't visualise trend of gold with a normal chart.

babuSingh said:
Gold spot prices moves inversely against dollar prices. It is much easier to speculate and profits are much more exciting than boring forex.

frenchbriefs · Nov 1, 2014

krafty said:
just be careful with gold spot...i learnt that when it goes below 1200, chances it will rebound again. 1200 is the mining cost for gold, so if it goes down more than that, many gold mining companies will go kaput. moreover, you can't visualise trend of gold with a normal chart.

um gold has been around 400 to 600 for most of history,theres nothing to stop it from going back to its historical price.theres only 2 times in the last 100 years when gold has broken the $1000 mark.

krafty · Nov 1, 2014

those times when gold was around 500 to 600 was rolling good times. currently, we have china slowing, japan and europe too. only america seems to be drawing money from everywhere. but this was the 2nd time fed cease bond buying, who knows if they may pull the plug again and start buying bonds all over.

frenchbriefs said:
um gold has been around 400 to 600 for most of history,theres nothing to stop it from going back to its historical price.theres only 2 times in the last 100 years when gold has broken the $1000 mark.

Reddog · Nov 1, 2014

frenchbriefs said:
whats the point so what if u can start playing with 500 dollars?u think u can turn that 500 dollars in 50k?thats 10,000% growth.

investing is about building ur portfolio and having a reasonable expectation on return(like 8 or 9%) a year.building ur portfolio means working and saving and injecting capital into it every month(be it $500 or $1000)........a reasonable expectation in investing is expecting $300k portfolio of stocks and bonds to give u 30k passive income a year......thinking u can grow $500 into $50,000 is just a pipe dream.u have better chance of doing that at the casino.

I am not crueet enough to debate on behalf of forex. For years (since 1990s), I have been a part-time scalper.. closing my positions whenever I am about $80 ahead. Didn't make me a millionaire but keep me enjoying my kopitiam Carlsbergs going and time well spent looking at the screen for the better-than-average candle patterns. LG - Life's good.

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