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Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child gay"

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Singapore's censorship of children's book defies reality of alternative lifestyles
Kelly Yang says to teach acceptance, we should celebrate books about non-traditional families, not censor them as Singapore did
SCMP PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 22 July, 2014, 12:11pm



Sexuality is not a choice; science shows genetics plays a part. Being gay is not something people can turn on or off, like a switch. What we can control, however, is the stigma we attach to non-traditional family arrangements. This is why Singapore's recent attempt to destroy a children's book about penguins is like something out of Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, in which all books are outlawed.

Singapore's National Library Board made the decision to destroy three children's books because they were "pro-homosexuality" ( even though public outcry forced it to backtrack on two of those titles). The "offending" trio were: And Tango Makes Three, a sweet tale of two male penguins raising a chick together; The White Swan Express; and Who's In My Family. The country's Media Development Authority also banned for sale an issue of the US comic book Archie: The Married Life, because it, too, featured a same-sex marriage.

The very idea that reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child gay" is irrational, insulting and infuriating. Such books are critically important not just for gay rights, but for normalising alternative family arrangements.

I'll never forget the day when my son was in a park in San Francisco and another boy told him he had two mums. My son's eyes widened. He ran over to me and asked: "Why does this boy have two mums?" I replied: "Why not?" My son thought about my answer. Finally, he shrugged and ran back to play with the boy.

As it turned out, the boy's two mums were not gay. One was his surrogate mother; the other his real mother. They were raising him together, along with his father. Here in Asia, an increasing number of children are being raised by grandparents. In Shanghai, 90 per cent of the children are reportedly being looked after by at least one grandparent.

If we are serious about accepting alternative lifestyles, then children's books have an important role to play. Not so long ago, most English-language children's books featured Caucasian children living in big, two-storey houses because the major publishers were all either in the US or Britain. As a child, I remember falling in love with the stories. I also remember looking in the mirror and wondering why I have black hair and small, brown eyes.

It wasn't until I became a mother myself that I questioned why my children also had to read only books about white kids living in the suburbs. That was when I started writing books - so my children, who are half-Chinese, won't also stand in front of the mirror and wonder why their lives are so weird.

Their lives are not weird. Neither is the life of the boy with two mums, the girl with two dads, or the kids looked after by grandparents. None of this would be weird if we read more books like And Tango Makes Three. Singapore prides itself on being a cultural and intellectual hot spot in Asia. Yet it's missing the one crucial ingredient: freedom of speech. Hong Kong still has that; let's hang on to it.

Kelly Yang is the founder of The Kelly Yang Project, an after-school writing and debate centre for students aged 5-17. She is also the author of several children's books, including the best-selling Where's Broccoli? [email protected]
 

sochi2014

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

Reality doesn't mean it is right.

There people committing crimes everyday does it mean it is right?

It is the reality too!
 

johnny333

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

Who decides if it is a crime?
 

blackalley

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

There was a thread about this some weeks back no?
 

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

dey shud ban dose books ah loon read as a kid ...
 

eErotica69

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Jo, aiyah a person is born gay or straight. Is biological.

Limpei can read 1 million gays books and can still go visit Nataree and/or Pattaya with you.
 

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

Agree with the writer's comments, but this sentence takes a little bit more looking into. Cultural and Intellectual hotspot?

I learnt in Sociology that culture are practices passed on from one generation to the next, other than National Service (which occurs only to the males), what other practice is passed on? Language has been killed by the Ministry of Education, firecrackers has been banned by the state; ballet, music (forms of), culinary skills, fashions, are learnt from institutions. Chatek, five-stones, no longer exist. As for intellects, sorry Singlish doesn't equip one much to impress anyone with. But, keep trying.

Cheers!

.......... Singapore prides itself on being a cultural and intellectual hot spot in Asia......
 

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

Agree with the writer's comments, but this sentence takes a little bit more looking into. Cultural and Intellectual hotspot?

I learnt in Sociology that culture are practices passed on from one generation to the next, other than National Service (which occurs only to the males), what other practice is passed on? Language has been killed by the Ministry of Education, firecrackers has been banned by the state; ballet, music (forms of), culinary skills, fashions, are learnt from institutions. Chatek, five-stones, no longer exist. As for intellects, sorry Singlish doesn't equip one much to impress anyone with. But, keep trying.

Cheers!

i agree if singapore was truly a intellectual hot spot,they would read any books out of pure intellectual curiosity and expand their knowledge.....most singaporeans are daft and stupid,their minds are prejudiced,empty and ignorant......conservative fucktards.....

not to mention these are only goddam children's books are u fucking serious?they are silly and nonsensical,if u and ur kids cant handle a bunch of children's storybooks then u should jolly well fark off.....u have yet to plunge into the world of adult fiction u can be goddam sure there is some shit that u cant handle.
 

leetahbar

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

if like that, confirmed pinky is hardcore gay.
 

SgParent

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Reality doesn't mean it is right.
has it been proven like 1+1=2 yet? or still in i-say-you-say-who-confirm stage?

anyway such topic is out of bound for children. period.

if not then what's next? shall we try porn? real enough? natural enough?
 

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Pappies are all straightlaced one, all goody-two shoes, law-abiding citizens with no alternative lifestyles.

The worst they can do is fuck other people's wife; no whips, handcuffs, leather and BDSM. PAP is white than white.


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GOD IS MY DOG

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Jo, aiyah a person is born gay or straight. Is biological.

Limpei can read 1 million gays books and can still go visit Nataree and/or Pattaya with you.


go there find Shemales lah hor..............
 

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I look at this as a conspiracy by foreigners to do Singapore in, interfering in our domestic affairs. It's been a long while that this matter is considered over yet this foreigner is bringing it up again now.
 

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

I look at this as a conspiracy by foreigners to do Singapore in, interfering in our domestic affairs. It's been a long while that this matter is considered over yet this foreigner is bringing it up again now.

Does that also include our resident jiu hu kia Tonychat?
 

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

Jo, aiyah a person is born gay or straight. Is biological.Limpei can read 1 million gays books and can still go visit Nataree and/or Pattaya with you.
Nataree rooms very old, how about Poseidon or Plaza
 

Froggy

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Re: Agree? Reading a book about two male penguins is somehow going to "turn a child g

The girls at these 2 places "old" or not?

Errrrrrrrrrrrr let's discuss it some other places if not the frog kenna accused again.
 
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