Re: China paid money to people to kachiow protesters!!
You speak of sinkapore as well!
You speak of sinkapore as well!
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Re: China paid money to people to kachiow protesters!!
Everyone wants to be like angmo ...angmo doesn't need to sponsor anything lah. Even Pinky wants to be angmo. His sons are in US as well.
Angmo is the bestest.
Everyone wants to be like angmo ...angmo doesn't need to sponsor anything lah. Even Pinky wants to be angmo. His sons are in US as well.
Angmo is the bestest.
Re: China paid money to people to kachiow protesters!!
Be beggars and first to perish?
Silly.
Be beggars and first to perish?
Silly.
Re: China paid money to people to kachiow protesters!!
How much did PAP pay YMCA to kar chio the Hong Lim Park CPF protest?
How much did PAP pay YMCA to kar chio the Hong Lim Park CPF protest?
Re: China paid money to people to kachiow protesters!!
If they collect n not pay i worry.
Be beggars and first to perish?
Silly.
If they collect n not pay i worry.
Re: China paid money to people to kachiow protesters!!
The Honkies know China will not follow the event of TAM so they dare to protest. But they forgot that another group will wallop them and that group will be the pro-China group...... This protest is doomed to fail. In fact, it is really not a protest but a rebellion.
The Honkies know China will not follow the event of TAM so they dare to protest. But they forgot that another group will wallop them and that group will be the pro-China group...... This protest is doomed to fail. In fact, it is really not a protest but a rebellion.
Re: What is Occupy Central? 10 key facts about Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement
soon drones will become a household name.
soon drones will become a household name.
Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
Looking at the unfolding drama in HK , The spirit is there for democracy ,but basic human sin of greed , selfishness creeps in. Looking at the situation , I am wondering where are the tycoons or the HK upper crust voice , all I could see are the man on the street , students and occasional supporters. This protest is on the verge of falling apart. Let's face it, the truth hurts , HK without China is gone for sure , China without Hong Kong no problem. Chinese have often being self centred since the raising of the bamboo curtains they have forgotten the world revolves around them , not them the world.
Looking at the unfolding drama in HK , The spirit is there for democracy ,but basic human sin of greed , selfishness creeps in. Looking at the situation , I am wondering where are the tycoons or the HK upper crust voice , all I could see are the man on the street , students and occasional supporters. This protest is on the verge of falling apart. Let's face it, the truth hurts , HK without China is gone for sure , China without Hong Kong no problem. Chinese have often being self centred since the raising of the bamboo curtains they have forgotten the world revolves around them , not them the world.
Re: HK should hold Referendum on its future
After angry mobs turn on protesters, students call off talks
Violence in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay as police struggle to protect encircled students; 'breakthrough' talks with chief secretary put on hold
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:22am
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:28am
Staff Reporters
A student protester bleeds as he is escorted to safety by police in Mong Kok. There were further confrontations in Causeway Bay and Tsim Sha Tsui. Photo: Sam Tsang
Fists flew and tempers frayed as people demanding an end to the Occupy movement clashed violently with protesters in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay.
The Federation of Students and Scholarism - two of the three main groups behind the campaign - put on hold a meeting with Chief Secretary Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor and blamed police for failing to protect them.
Police struggled to separate the opposing camps and at times were overwhelmed by the riotous crowds who surrounded protesters occupying the junction of Argyle Street and Nathan Road, Mong Kok yesterday. Officers escorted some besieged protesters to safety but the confrontation persisted into the night.
Two arrests were made and dozens of people, apparently Occupy opponents, were taken away by police.
Some 37 people were treated for injuries, bringing to 131 the number of those hurt since the protests kicked off on Sunday.
Finger-pointing in Mong Kok as the two sides face off. Photo: Sam Tsang
In a clip uploaded to the government's website last night, Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying urged everyone to leave Mong Kok.
"People should stay calm and not use violent means no matter what side they take on Occupy Central," he said. "I have noticed there are many young people, with some students in their uniforms. I call on them to leave immediately as I do not want to see any citizens get hurt."
Earlier the government had called the behaviour of protesters blocking access to government offices in Admiralty "almost complete anarchy".
Occupy Central and the student groups called for supporters in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay to pull back to Admiralty.
The agreement for the students to meet Lam, a breakthrough achieved late on Thursday, had raised hopes for a solution to the deadlock.
After six days of mostly peaceful demonstrations triggered by Beijing's decision to limit electoral reform in Hong Kong and a heavy-handed police approach on Sunday, the crowds started to thin out yesterday. Stormy weather, fatigue and increasing splits among protesters took their toll. But chaos erupted in Mong Kok at around 2pm when dozens of people, mostly in their fifties, forcibly removed tents and barriers set up by the pro-democracy activists. They soon encircled the protesters, hurling insults and water bottles at them.
Police officers were barely able to control the situation, but no riot police were deployed. Hundreds of people shouted at protesters to "clear out", "go home" and said they "support the police".
Hong Kong Design Institute student Yeung Ching-fung said he was "terrified".
"I am disgusted by their actions. They are in their fifties and should be our role models. But they keep swearing, insulting my family. Is that the right way to express their views?" he asked.
Anti-triad police were deployed in Causeway Bay, where 20 burly masked men harassed protesters. A smaller protest in Tsim Sha Tsui was cleared by police.
Anti-Occupy protester Jackson Tsui, 46, denied belonging to any political party or group. "[The Occupy protesters] are seriously affecting the lives of ordinary Hong Kong people and disrupting traffic. That is why I want them to go home," he said.
Some anti-Occupy protesters said they owned shops and their businesses had suffered greatly.
ANZ, a bank, estimated the protests had cost retailers HK$2.2 billion over the past week, but losses could balloon to HK$6.2 billion if they continued.
In Beijing, state media stepped up its rhetoric, condemning the pro-democracy protests as a challenge to China's "highest authority".
People's Daily ran a commentary on its front page for the second day, stressing Beijing would never retract its decision on electoral reform and was prepared to "staunchly safeguard the decision". The PLA Daily has also run front-page reports for two straight days on Hong Kong, yesterday highlighting the loyalty of the soldiers stationed in Hong Kong to the Communist Party.
Heng's view
After angry mobs turn on protesters, students call off talks
Violence in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay as police struggle to protect encircled students; 'breakthrough' talks with chief secretary put on hold
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:22am
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:28am
Staff Reporters
A student protester bleeds as he is escorted to safety by police in Mong Kok. There were further confrontations in Causeway Bay and Tsim Sha Tsui. Photo: Sam Tsang
Fists flew and tempers frayed as people demanding an end to the Occupy movement clashed violently with protesters in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay.
The Federation of Students and Scholarism - two of the three main groups behind the campaign - put on hold a meeting with Chief Secretary Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor and blamed police for failing to protect them.
Police struggled to separate the opposing camps and at times were overwhelmed by the riotous crowds who surrounded protesters occupying the junction of Argyle Street and Nathan Road, Mong Kok yesterday. Officers escorted some besieged protesters to safety but the confrontation persisted into the night.
Two arrests were made and dozens of people, apparently Occupy opponents, were taken away by police.
Some 37 people were treated for injuries, bringing to 131 the number of those hurt since the protests kicked off on Sunday.
Finger-pointing in Mong Kok as the two sides face off. Photo: Sam Tsang
In a clip uploaded to the government's website last night, Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying urged everyone to leave Mong Kok.
"People should stay calm and not use violent means no matter what side they take on Occupy Central," he said. "I have noticed there are many young people, with some students in their uniforms. I call on them to leave immediately as I do not want to see any citizens get hurt."
Earlier the government had called the behaviour of protesters blocking access to government offices in Admiralty "almost complete anarchy".
Occupy Central and the student groups called for supporters in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay to pull back to Admiralty.
The agreement for the students to meet Lam, a breakthrough achieved late on Thursday, had raised hopes for a solution to the deadlock.
After six days of mostly peaceful demonstrations triggered by Beijing's decision to limit electoral reform in Hong Kong and a heavy-handed police approach on Sunday, the crowds started to thin out yesterday. Stormy weather, fatigue and increasing splits among protesters took their toll. But chaos erupted in Mong Kok at around 2pm when dozens of people, mostly in their fifties, forcibly removed tents and barriers set up by the pro-democracy activists. They soon encircled the protesters, hurling insults and water bottles at them.
Police officers were barely able to control the situation, but no riot police were deployed. Hundreds of people shouted at protesters to "clear out", "go home" and said they "support the police".
Hong Kong Design Institute student Yeung Ching-fung said he was "terrified".
"I am disgusted by their actions. They are in their fifties and should be our role models. But they keep swearing, insulting my family. Is that the right way to express their views?" he asked.
Anti-triad police were deployed in Causeway Bay, where 20 burly masked men harassed protesters. A smaller protest in Tsim Sha Tsui was cleared by police.
Anti-Occupy protester Jackson Tsui, 46, denied belonging to any political party or group. "[The Occupy protesters] are seriously affecting the lives of ordinary Hong Kong people and disrupting traffic. That is why I want them to go home," he said.
Some anti-Occupy protesters said they owned shops and their businesses had suffered greatly.
ANZ, a bank, estimated the protests had cost retailers HK$2.2 billion over the past week, but losses could balloon to HK$6.2 billion if they continued.
In Beijing, state media stepped up its rhetoric, condemning the pro-democracy protests as a challenge to China's "highest authority".
People's Daily ran a commentary on its front page for the second day, stressing Beijing would never retract its decision on electoral reform and was prepared to "staunchly safeguard the decision". The PLA Daily has also run front-page reports for two straight days on Hong Kong, yesterday highlighting the loyalty of the soldiers stationed in Hong Kong to the Communist Party.
Heng's view
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The far too thin blue line: Occupy accuses police of double standards
Police accused of double standards, with Occupy Central saying there were not enough officers as opponents attacked two protest sites yesterday
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:23am
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:31am
Timmy Sung, Chris Lau, Raquel Carvalho and Kathy Gao
Anti-Occupy activists and Occupy Central protesters clash at the Mong Kok protest site yesterday. Protesters say there were not enough police on hand. Photo: Sam Tsang
The police have come under fire again, this time for not having enough officers on hand during clashes at Occupy Central protest sites in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay yesterday.
Critics accused the force of failing to protect Occupy protesters and for having double standards in dealing with anti-Occupy activists during the fracas.
In Causeway Bay, a group of about 20 men wearing face masks - believed to be anti-Occupy activists - removed barricades on Hennessy Road and Jardine's Bazaar. Police tried to contain the situation, but violence flared involving the men, protesters and police. Some were hurt.
"We are very angry with the police. They did nothing," said protester Soda Lam after police led the group of men away.
Protesters on Hennessy Road said an anti-Occupy activist grabbed a woman's breasts as he forced his way into two lines of protesters standing in front of the barricades. The man was later taken away by police.
Wesley Ng, 21, said he and several other people followed officers who escorted one anti-Occupy protester to a police station at about 11pm after an alleged attack. "The man was released after 15 minutes. There was a commotion about why the man was let go so fast. Then another officer came. We told him that the police needed to open a case on the attack," he said.
Police then escorted the alleged attacker into the station and opened a file, Ng said.
In Mong Kok, over a dozen anti-Occupy activists started dismantling protesters' tents and barriers shortly after 2pm. Fewer than 100 protesters were there at the time. Police arrived soon after, but were outnumbered by the hundreds of anti-Occupy activists at the scene by then.
A cordon was then set up at the junction of Argyle Street and Nathan Road, but the activists repeatedly charged at the police. A protester with a head injury said anti-Occupy activists attacked him but officers did not help him.
Despite the chaos in Causeway Bay and Mong Kok, officers did not display banners warning people to stop or be subjected to force. This was in stark contrast to the way they had dealt with Occupy protesters on Sunday, when riot police were deployed and pepper spray and tear gas used.
Scholarism convenor Joshua Wong Chi-fung said: "The police clearly have double standards. We are very angry, but we will keep the protests peaceful."
Icarus Wong Ho-yin, convenor of the Civil Human Rights Front's Police Powers Monitoring Group, also accused the force of having double standards. "When we had confrontations with police … they took decisive action to maintain order," he said. "But they were very tolerant [towards anti-Occupy activists] and did not use force."
Human Rights Monitor director Law Yuk-kai said it was odd there had been a police "vacuum" in Mong Kok and said it gave rise to the clashes there.
But anti-Occupy activist Robert Chow Yung, from the Alliance for Peace and Democracy, said: "Be fair to the police. If they can't fire tear gas, they're not allowed to take any action against people blatantly breaking the law."
Patrick Ko Tat-bun, convenor of the pro-Beijing Voice of Loving Hong Kong, said the anti-Occupy activists did nothing wrong in charging the police cordon. "They were only enforcing the law on the police's behalf."
At a press conference late last night, Senior Superintendent Kong Man-keung rejected criticism that the force did little to prevent the clashes, saying it had swiftly deployed a lot of officers to control the crowds. He also denied allegations that the force was tolerating triad members' trashing of the protest sites.
By 10pm, two protesters had been arrested for fighting.
Lawmaker Leung Che-cheung, of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, dismissed rumours that he had mobilised more than a hundred Yuen Long residents to trash the Mong Kok site. "Even if I could … I wouldn't, as it would only cause injuries and chaos," he said.
The Heads of Universities Committee urged students to leave the protest sites.
The far too thin blue line: Occupy accuses police of double standards
Police accused of double standards, with Occupy Central saying there were not enough officers as opponents attacked two protest sites yesterday
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:23am
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:31am
Timmy Sung, Chris Lau, Raquel Carvalho and Kathy Gao
Anti-Occupy activists and Occupy Central protesters clash at the Mong Kok protest site yesterday. Protesters say there were not enough police on hand. Photo: Sam Tsang
The police have come under fire again, this time for not having enough officers on hand during clashes at Occupy Central protest sites in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay yesterday.
Critics accused the force of failing to protect Occupy protesters and for having double standards in dealing with anti-Occupy activists during the fracas.
In Causeway Bay, a group of about 20 men wearing face masks - believed to be anti-Occupy activists - removed barricades on Hennessy Road and Jardine's Bazaar. Police tried to contain the situation, but violence flared involving the men, protesters and police. Some were hurt.
"We are very angry with the police. They did nothing," said protester Soda Lam after police led the group of men away.
Protesters on Hennessy Road said an anti-Occupy activist grabbed a woman's breasts as he forced his way into two lines of protesters standing in front of the barricades. The man was later taken away by police.
Wesley Ng, 21, said he and several other people followed officers who escorted one anti-Occupy protester to a police station at about 11pm after an alleged attack. "The man was released after 15 minutes. There was a commotion about why the man was let go so fast. Then another officer came. We told him that the police needed to open a case on the attack," he said.
Police then escorted the alleged attacker into the station and opened a file, Ng said.
In Mong Kok, over a dozen anti-Occupy activists started dismantling protesters' tents and barriers shortly after 2pm. Fewer than 100 protesters were there at the time. Police arrived soon after, but were outnumbered by the hundreds of anti-Occupy activists at the scene by then.
A cordon was then set up at the junction of Argyle Street and Nathan Road, but the activists repeatedly charged at the police. A protester with a head injury said anti-Occupy activists attacked him but officers did not help him.
Despite the chaos in Causeway Bay and Mong Kok, officers did not display banners warning people to stop or be subjected to force. This was in stark contrast to the way they had dealt with Occupy protesters on Sunday, when riot police were deployed and pepper spray and tear gas used.
Scholarism convenor Joshua Wong Chi-fung said: "The police clearly have double standards. We are very angry, but we will keep the protests peaceful."
Icarus Wong Ho-yin, convenor of the Civil Human Rights Front's Police Powers Monitoring Group, also accused the force of having double standards. "When we had confrontations with police … they took decisive action to maintain order," he said. "But they were very tolerant [towards anti-Occupy activists] and did not use force."
Human Rights Monitor director Law Yuk-kai said it was odd there had been a police "vacuum" in Mong Kok and said it gave rise to the clashes there.
But anti-Occupy activist Robert Chow Yung, from the Alliance for Peace and Democracy, said: "Be fair to the police. If they can't fire tear gas, they're not allowed to take any action against people blatantly breaking the law."
Patrick Ko Tat-bun, convenor of the pro-Beijing Voice of Loving Hong Kong, said the anti-Occupy activists did nothing wrong in charging the police cordon. "They were only enforcing the law on the police's behalf."
At a press conference late last night, Senior Superintendent Kong Man-keung rejected criticism that the force did little to prevent the clashes, saying it had swiftly deployed a lot of officers to control the crowds. He also denied allegations that the force was tolerating triad members' trashing of the protest sites.
By 10pm, two protesters had been arrested for fighting.
Lawmaker Leung Che-cheung, of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, dismissed rumours that he had mobilised more than a hundred Yuen Long residents to trash the Mong Kok site. "Even if I could … I wouldn't, as it would only cause injuries and chaos," he said.
The Heads of Universities Committee urged students to leave the protest sites.
Re: HK should hold Referendum on its future
Hackers' group Anonymous shuts down websites after declaring cyberwar
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:22am
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 1:14pm
Jeremy Blum and Clifford Lo
Anonymous declared cyberwar on Hong Kong on Thursday after police used tear gas on unarmed demonstrators during the Occupy protests on September 28. Photo: NYT
The websites of the city's biggest political party, the Occupy Central movement and the Silent Majority for Hong Kong were all taken offline by hackers yesterday after a US-based group declared cyberwar on the Hong Kong government.
At 7.45pm, the website of the Beijing-loyalist Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong remained down, and access to the Occupy Central and Silent Majority sites was intermittent.
The hackers' group, known as Anonymous, posted on its various Twitter accounts and its Asia arm's Facebook page that hackers had started a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack against the sites yesterday morning. The cyberattacks bombarded the sites with traffic, overloading their servers and forcing them offline by the afternoon.
DAB chairman Tam Yiu-chung described the cyberattack as "outrageous", adding that staff were working to get the party's site back online.
Anonymous declared cyberwar on Hong Kong on Thursday after police used tear gas on unarmed demonstrators during the Occupy protests on September 28. In a video sent to US news portal News2share, the group said: "We are watching you very closely and have already begun to wage war on you for your inhumane actions against your own citizens."
The group said it would deface and take offline all of the government's web-based assets if the government and police continued to "abuse, harass or harm" protesters. "That is not a threat. It is a promise," a member said in the video.
He also threatened to disclose all government officials' personal information online: "We will seize all your databases and email pools and dump them on the internet. This is your first and only warning."
Addressing Hong Kong protesters, the member said: "We have heard your plea for help. Take heart and take to your streets. You are not alone in this fight. Anonymous members all over the world stand with you and will help in your fight for democracy."
In response, a police spokesman said: "The cyberworld of the internet is not a virtual space not bound by law."
The Office of the Government Chief Information Officer said: "Government information systems are now under normal operation. No abnormality was identified."
Anyone convicted of accessing a computer with dishonest or criminal intent under Section 161 of Chapter 200 of the Crime Ordinance faces up to five years in jail.
Anonymous - founded in 2003 - is best known for its cyberattacks on the FBI, the Visa credit-card network and electronics giant Sony. It has about 20 members in Hong Kong.
Two years ago, one of its Hong Kong members was arrested for posting comments online saying that he would hack several government websites.
Hackers' group Anonymous shuts down websites after declaring cyberwar
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:22am
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 1:14pm
Jeremy Blum and Clifford Lo
Anonymous declared cyberwar on Hong Kong on Thursday after police used tear gas on unarmed demonstrators during the Occupy protests on September 28. Photo: NYT
The websites of the city's biggest political party, the Occupy Central movement and the Silent Majority for Hong Kong were all taken offline by hackers yesterday after a US-based group declared cyberwar on the Hong Kong government.
At 7.45pm, the website of the Beijing-loyalist Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong remained down, and access to the Occupy Central and Silent Majority sites was intermittent.
The hackers' group, known as Anonymous, posted on its various Twitter accounts and its Asia arm's Facebook page that hackers had started a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack against the sites yesterday morning. The cyberattacks bombarded the sites with traffic, overloading their servers and forcing them offline by the afternoon.
DAB chairman Tam Yiu-chung described the cyberattack as "outrageous", adding that staff were working to get the party's site back online.
Anonymous declared cyberwar on Hong Kong on Thursday after police used tear gas on unarmed demonstrators during the Occupy protests on September 28. In a video sent to US news portal News2share, the group said: "We are watching you very closely and have already begun to wage war on you for your inhumane actions against your own citizens."
The group said it would deface and take offline all of the government's web-based assets if the government and police continued to "abuse, harass or harm" protesters. "That is not a threat. It is a promise," a member said in the video.
He also threatened to disclose all government officials' personal information online: "We will seize all your databases and email pools and dump them on the internet. This is your first and only warning."
Addressing Hong Kong protesters, the member said: "We have heard your plea for help. Take heart and take to your streets. You are not alone in this fight. Anonymous members all over the world stand with you and will help in your fight for democracy."
In response, a police spokesman said: "The cyberworld of the internet is not a virtual space not bound by law."
The Office of the Government Chief Information Officer said: "Government information systems are now under normal operation. No abnormality was identified."
Anyone convicted of accessing a computer with dishonest or criminal intent under Section 161 of Chapter 200 of the Crime Ordinance faces up to five years in jail.
Anonymous - founded in 2003 - is best known for its cyberattacks on the FBI, the Visa credit-card network and electronics giant Sony. It has about 20 members in Hong Kong.
Two years ago, one of its Hong Kong members was arrested for posting comments online saying that he would hack several government websites.
Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
As you said, HK without China then HK would be nothing and the rich, wealthy and influential in HK understand that so thats why they are so quiet. The sooner the demonstrations die off the better for them so why should they add fuel to the fire when there is no advantage for them. In fact if they do interfere they may snook themselves later when everything has quietened down.China will surely hunt down those whom they considered the troublemakers and supporters of these demonstrations.
As you said, HK without China then HK would be nothing and the rich, wealthy and influential in HK understand that so thats why they are so quiet. The sooner the demonstrations die off the better for them so why should they add fuel to the fire when there is no advantage for them. In fact if they do interfere they may snook themselves later when everything has quietened down.China will surely hunt down those whom they considered the troublemakers and supporters of these demonstrations.
Re: Give me Liberty or Give me Death! Giordano Tycoon joins Occupy Central!
Agree with Woody Goh Sinkie youth are hopeless
Only know how to fight for seats in hawker centres
And queue for iphones, hello kitty and what not
They should go to Hong Kong now for educational tour
[video=youtube;GkECl9K2tW0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkECl9K2tW0[/video]
Agree with Woody Goh Sinkie youth are hopeless
Only know how to fight for seats in hawker centres
And queue for iphones, hello kitty and what not
They should go to Hong Kong now for educational tour
[video=youtube;GkECl9K2tW0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkECl9K2tW0[/video]
Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
if Hong Kong becomes poor without China and falls to pieces,then CHina would lose interest in Hong Kong,thats when the hong kies gain their freedom.dont worry,can always rebuild hong kong later.
if Hong Kong becomes poor without China and falls to pieces,then CHina would lose interest in Hong Kong,thats when the hong kies gain their freedom.dont worry,can always rebuild hong kong later.
Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
why will the protest fall apart without the voice of the elite or upper crust?remember China was a poor communist country once,they won control of the country through the support of the peasants......capitalism will tear the country apart,again and again its the poor masses that will rise up and seize control of the country from the rich and evil bourgeoisie....u can call communism by any other name,socialism,democracy,nationalist,workers union....its always about the masses.......just like PAP and LKY once feared the communists....the commies will rise up once again and this time the heads of the rich and corrupted elites of the PAP and CCP will roll.
why will the protest fall apart without the voice of the elite or upper crust?remember China was a poor communist country once,they won control of the country through the support of the peasants......capitalism will tear the country apart,again and again its the poor masses that will rise up and seize control of the country from the rich and evil bourgeoisie....u can call communism by any other name,socialism,democracy,nationalist,workers union....its always about the masses.......just like PAP and LKY once feared the communists....the commies will rise up once again and this time the heads of the rich and corrupted elites of the PAP and CCP will roll.
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Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
Why hk will fail without china?
Maybe not as prosperous but resilient hongkies will not die.....and most important they will be FREE
Why hk will fail without china?
Maybe not as prosperous but resilient hongkies will not die.....and most important they will be FREE
Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
In an interview with Apple Daily, HK's most famous actor, Chow Yun Fat openly supports Occupy Central!
If PAP IBs are correct then Chow Yun Fat and his Sinkie wife must be anarchists and opportunists, can teach Lightning how to sabo CPF rally in Hong Lim Park using tactics other than retarded children and even more retarded parents!
香港民間特首發聲 周潤發：政府錯了！
2014年10月02日15:05
香港佔中行動遍地開花，港府回應最後通牒11小時，「永遠的民間特首」周潤發，接受香港《蘋果》電話訪問，直言政府做錯了！港星杜汶澤在臉書轉發周潤發的言論，立刻有近2萬臉友按讚，不過他也感嘆：「當杜汶澤發聲時，這叫撩事鬥非；當周潤發發聲時，這叫大是大非！」有台灣鄉民同情杜真的很可憐，也有鄉民說：「人家可是賭神、小馬哥，你呢？」
發哥說，第一時間事件發生時，政府就不該迴避。當面而來的事情，一定要先解決。香港特首梁振英選擇拒見學生，導致不滿聲浪加大，佔中提前啟動。
以下是周潤發訪問全文：
市民、學生爭取訴求很勇敢，令人感動。警方第一天已經做錯了！為什麼要使用催淚彈？所有學生都很理智，如果政府沒有一個新方案，可以讓香港市民學生滿意，這個抗爭我想不會停。學生叫梁振英下台，其實你叫哪一邊下台都於事無補，最重要還是先拿出解決的辦法。
如果政府再用暴力對付學生，會令香港市民非常反感。他們的訴求很清楚，為什麼你（政府）整天叫人「袋住先」（先接受我的方案），你為什麼不可以接納一個方案，政府「袋住先」？
香港特區政府有錢，後面又有中國支持，我都不知道你在怕什麼？學生或市民如果達不到目的，大家只會繼續僵持下去，應該討論一個方案，是雙方可以接受、可以解決的。
我不想見到任何一邊受傷，學生是理智、聰明的和平抗爭，你不需要動用暴力的催淚彈，一定要先解決問題，你不可以逃避，梁振英不可以逃避。（王嘉慶／綜合報導）
http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20141002/480226/
In an interview with Apple Daily, HK's most famous actor, Chow Yun Fat openly supports Occupy Central!
If PAP IBs are correct then Chow Yun Fat and his Sinkie wife must be anarchists and opportunists, can teach Lightning how to sabo CPF rally in Hong Lim Park using tactics other than retarded children and even more retarded parents!
香港民間特首發聲 周潤發：政府錯了！
2014年10月02日15:05
香港佔中行動遍地開花，港府回應最後通牒11小時，「永遠的民間特首」周潤發，接受香港《蘋果》電話訪問，直言政府做錯了！港星杜汶澤在臉書轉發周潤發的言論，立刻有近2萬臉友按讚，不過他也感嘆：「當杜汶澤發聲時，這叫撩事鬥非；當周潤發發聲時，這叫大是大非！」有台灣鄉民同情杜真的很可憐，也有鄉民說：「人家可是賭神、小馬哥，你呢？」
發哥說，第一時間事件發生時，政府就不該迴避。當面而來的事情，一定要先解決。香港特首梁振英選擇拒見學生，導致不滿聲浪加大，佔中提前啟動。
以下是周潤發訪問全文：
市民、學生爭取訴求很勇敢，令人感動。警方第一天已經做錯了！為什麼要使用催淚彈？所有學生都很理智，如果政府沒有一個新方案，可以讓香港市民學生滿意，這個抗爭我想不會停。學生叫梁振英下台，其實你叫哪一邊下台都於事無補，最重要還是先拿出解決的辦法。
如果政府再用暴力對付學生，會令香港市民非常反感。他們的訴求很清楚，為什麼你（政府）整天叫人「袋住先」（先接受我的方案），你為什麼不可以接納一個方案，政府「袋住先」？
香港特區政府有錢，後面又有中國支持，我都不知道你在怕什麼？學生或市民如果達不到目的，大家只會繼續僵持下去，應該討論一個方案，是雙方可以接受、可以解決的。
我不想見到任何一邊受傷，學生是理智、聰明的和平抗爭，你不需要動用暴力的催淚彈，一定要先解決問題，你不可以逃避，梁振英不可以逃避。（王嘉慶／綜合報導）
http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20141002/480226/
Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
Life does not just revolve around money. There are some things which should be non-negotiable, which cannot be bought with money.
Besides, I think the Hongkies are worse off after 1997, the so-called prosperity from rejoining motherland China has been exaggerated. It is overcrowded now and property prices have skyrocketed beyond affordability. Don't forget the social ills from letting in a horde of Tiongs.
Life does not just revolve around money. There are some things which should be non-negotiable, which cannot be bought with money.
Besides, I think the Hongkies are worse off after 1997, the so-called prosperity from rejoining motherland China has been exaggerated. It is overcrowded now and property prices have skyrocketed beyond affordability. Don't forget the social ills from letting in a horde of Tiongs.
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Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
Er Fatt Ko is empathising with the protesters la.
Er Fatt Ko is empathising with the protesters la.
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Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
According to Lightning's brigade both Chow Yun Fat and Tony Leung
Must be anarchists and opportunists and traitorous Lightning is the best
They simply detain you without trial under the Internal Security Act
That's the end of the matter regardless of whether you guilty or not
Chow Yun-Fat Speaks Out in Support of Hong Kong Democracy Protestors
The Bulletproof Monk criticises the police's use of tear gas on demonstrators
Chow Yun-Fat has become one of the first and most prominent celebrities to speak up about the ongoing pro-democracy demonstrations in Hong Kong, Channel News Asia reported on Wednesday.
Citing a Cantonese-language interview in the Apple Daily, Channel News Asia reported Chow as saying: “I’ve met the residents, the students — they are very brave and it’s touching to see that they’re fighting for what they want. The students are reasonable. If the government can come up with a solution that the citizens or students are satisfied with, I believe the crisis will end.”
Chow, was also critical of the police's use of tear gas on demonstrators on Sunday, which he felt was excessive. “When the government uses violent measures on students, it’s a turn-off for the people of Hong Kong,” he said. “I don’t wish to see anyone getting hurt… it was a peaceful demonstration, and there was no need for any violence or tear gas.”
As Hong Kong enters the sixth day of pro-democracy protests, most celebrities have steered clear of commenting publicly on a highly charged topic. Those who have spoken out have urged both the demonstrators and the police to stay safe and eschew violence.
Actor-singer Andy Lau (Infernal Affairs, A Simple Life) said in a post on a fan site that protestors should “not let their feelings be swayed by a few people sowing discord,” and said there should be “no tear gas, no violence, no abuse.”
Lau's Infernal Affairs co-star Tony Leung Chiu-wai also weighed in, telling Apple Daily: “I support all the people of Hong Kong who peacefully ask for what they want, and protest the government’s use of excessive force against people who have gathered peacefully, and hope the government can quickly arrange for sincere talks with the people."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chow-yun-fat-speaks-support-737529
According to Lightning's brigade both Chow Yun Fat and Tony Leung
Must be anarchists and opportunists and traitorous Lightning is the best
They simply detain you without trial under the Internal Security Act
That's the end of the matter regardless of whether you guilty or not
Chow Yun-Fat Speaks Out in Support of Hong Kong Democracy Protestors
The Bulletproof Monk criticises the police's use of tear gas on demonstrators
Chow Yun-Fat has become one of the first and most prominent celebrities to speak up about the ongoing pro-democracy demonstrations in Hong Kong, Channel News Asia reported on Wednesday.
Citing a Cantonese-language interview in the Apple Daily, Channel News Asia reported Chow as saying: “I’ve met the residents, the students — they are very brave and it’s touching to see that they’re fighting for what they want. The students are reasonable. If the government can come up with a solution that the citizens or students are satisfied with, I believe the crisis will end.”
Chow, was also critical of the police's use of tear gas on demonstrators on Sunday, which he felt was excessive. “When the government uses violent measures on students, it’s a turn-off for the people of Hong Kong,” he said. “I don’t wish to see anyone getting hurt… it was a peaceful demonstration, and there was no need for any violence or tear gas.”
As Hong Kong enters the sixth day of pro-democracy protests, most celebrities have steered clear of commenting publicly on a highly charged topic. Those who have spoken out have urged both the demonstrators and the police to stay safe and eschew violence.
Actor-singer Andy Lau (Infernal Affairs, A Simple Life) said in a post on a fan site that protestors should “not let their feelings be swayed by a few people sowing discord,” and said there should be “no tear gas, no violence, no abuse.”
Lau's Infernal Affairs co-star Tony Leung Chiu-wai also weighed in, telling Apple Daily: “I support all the people of Hong Kong who peacefully ask for what they want, and protest the government’s use of excessive force against people who have gathered peacefully, and hope the government can quickly arrange for sincere talks with the people."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chow-yun-fat-speaks-support-737529
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