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PAP will lose many Seats in 2015/16 General Elections ........ Is this Possible?

laksaboy

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Impossible? No, you can make it possible. It is within your power.


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Narong Wongwan

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I think u got the root cause reasons all wrong. The reason PAP lost is due to a strong WP team. It will be the same in next election. If no strong and credible opp, can kiss your chances away!

Morons who keep harping on 'credible' opposition candidates are dumbest of the dumbfucks.
What is the definition of 'credible'?
Same as that goondu term 'minister calibre' coined by old fart?
Pray tell which vile pappy minitoot now got such calibre?
How credible are the pap candidates then?
 

bigboss

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...No newspaper has reported on any corrupt ways used by the PAP. They won elections based on the citizen's choice. Their salaries have been legitimately approved by the courts. And all the institutions in Peesai work. And most visitors to Singapore are impressed by what they see. And the Straits Times attribute all the success in Singapore to good leadership. It's not me who said it, its the official press.

When assessing the political situation in sinkie land, one has to look at the assessment critically to get a good analysis.

Election is fair. True. This is the pride of LKY which is well known to the world. It is part of the respect that he earned from the world leaders.

Look at it again and you find the GRC system is a part of this electioneering process. Why the GRC? What is the real purpose of the GRC? In the free world, there is no such thing like the GRC.

To ensure the minority race gets a chance to enter Parliament in sinkie land? In Malaysia, the oppo parties put up Chinese candidates, a minority race, in Melayu areas, they were still elected by the Melayu voters in one-to-one contest. Why not the same kind of one-to-one contest in sinkie land?

In the past in the 1960s, Melayu papee candidates were elected by the Chinese too. They did not vote for the Chinese oppo parties' candidates.

Would the papees dismantle the GRC? They had already scaled down the number in each GRC team. Let the papees suffer the loss of three or more GRC in GE2016 and the death knell of the GRC system will be sounded after GE2016.
 

Agoraphobic

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I sense that the ruling party is losing ground and sentiments are growing against them. The opposition parties are in for better times.

Cheers!

PAP will lose couple more GRCs but they will still form majority. It's the next next election that will be very very interesting!!
 

laksaboy

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Morons who keep harping on 'credible' opposition candidates are dumbest of the dumbfucks.
What is the definition of 'credible'?
Same as that goondu term 'minister calibre' coined by old fart?
Pray tell which vile pappy minitoot now got such calibre?
How credible are the pap candidates then?

Before the pro-pappy dumbfucks harp on the quality of opposition, look first at the quality of the folks in the PAP camp: Michael Palmer, Intan, Wong Kan Seng, Lui Tuck Yew... I can go on and on but you get the idea. :rolleyes:

Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
 

3_M

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I think u got the root cause reasons all wrong. The reason PAP lost is due to a strong WP team. It will be the same in next election. If no strong and credible opp, can kiss your chances away!

Looking at the GE11 results of various parties, SDP only get an average of 35%, NSP fared abit better whereas better organised WP got around 47%. It only goes to show angers on the ground can only bring u to a certain level in the sub 40% region hardly enough to threaten PAP. To hit past 50% mark would still very much depend on how good you are rather than how sore the ground sentiment is.

Judging by the ground sentiment, I don't think it going to be worse than GE11 but the state of various non WP opposition is rather worrying. WP will continue to perform well but have more reservation for the rest.
 

enterprise2

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Morons who keep harping on 'credible' opposition candidates are dumbest of the dumbfucks.
What is the definition of 'credible'?
Same as that goondu term 'minister calibre' coined by old fart?
Pray tell which vile pappy minitoot now got such calibre?
How credible are the pap candidates then?

U never watch MU v QPR and MU v Leicester??? To beat MU, u got to be like Leicester. If u r like QPR or worst, u can never win!!
 

iluvgst

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Let's say PAP gets voted out and WP gets to form the new government. What is going to change? WP ministers will still pay themselves millions. Monopolies and oligopolies change hand to pro WP instead of pro PAP business cronies. Dont forget business profits are highly dependent on cheap labor and high population growth. The WP cronies will be clamoring for the same old policies as PAP ones. It will be fascist and crony capitalism all over again. How will the common folk benefit?
 

laksaboy

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Let's say PAP gets voted out and WP gets to form the new government. What is going to change? WP ministers will still pay themselves millions. Monopolies and oligopolies change hand to pro WP instead of pro PAP business cronies. Dont forget business profits are highly dependent on cheap labor and high population growth. The WP cronies will be clamoring for the same old policies as PAP ones. It will be fascist and crony capitalism all over again. How will the common folk benefit?

Vote for opposition and things MAY improve.

Vote for PAP and things WILL DEFINITELY get worse.

It's all about the probability of outcomes. Risk-benefit analysis.

Will you take a calculated, educated risk, or slurp up the same old bullshit that has been force fed to you for decades (no credible/viable opposition, Singapore too small so no choice, the PAP is the only way, like it or not).
 

mojito

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That is terrible. If we cannot guarantee sure win cushy ministerial jobs and high pay for our parliamentary candidates, how are we going to convince top talents to join the PAP?
 

palden

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Even with no PAP, losers remain losers. There will be no difference in your life. It could only get worse. Spend your energy in giving a better life for you and your family. Don't waste time blaming Gahment.

Dreadnought wrote in EDMW:
 
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xingguy

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Vote for opposition and things MAY improve.

Vote for PAP and things WILL DEFINITELY get worse.

It's all about the probability of outcomes. Risk-benefit analysis.

Will you take a calculated, educated risk, or slurp up the same old bullshit that has been force fed to you for decades (no credible/viable opposition, Singapore too small so no choice, the PAP is the only way, like it or not).

Well said and wise words indeed.
Will quote this when appropriate :biggrin:
 

johnny333

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Let's say PAP gets voted out and WP gets to form the new government. What is going to change? WP ministers will still pay themselves millions. Monopolies and oligopolies change hand to pro WP instead of pro PAP business cronies. Dont forget business profits are highly dependent on cheap labor and high population growth. The WP cronies will be clamoring for the same old policies as PAP ones. It will be fascist and crony capitalism all over again. How will the common folk benefit?


Simple, if they become as corrupted & self serving as as the current PAP, then vote out after 5 years. LKY was permitted to corrupt the system because he was in there for too long. What Spore needs are term limits e.g. in the US the President can only serve 2 terms.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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entirely possible due to playing out sgians n continue to do so.......... the Ah Nehs are coming in unabated even Shanmugam got to take cover in USA
 

sochi2014

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Beri difficult...

unless Ah Loong skeletons falls out of his closet...

und ver ist our Roy Kor Lumber 2?
 

xingguy

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steffychun

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all politics are dirty,its whether you are stupid enough not to see thru it.

surveys show 73% of singaporean trusts their government compared to less than 30% in other countries.

http://www.edelman.com/insights/int...t-in-institutions/government-trust-breakdown/

Singapore registered the third-highest government trust level at 73 percent. Trust saw a significant increase in Ireland, where elections brought in a new government.

Surveys don't reflect election results
 
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