Pap branch chairman tried to blame worker's party for bad quality hdb flats

JOKE OF THE DAY, HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.therealsingapore.com/content/pap-branch-chairman-tried-blame-workers-party-bad-quality-hdb-flats


Post date:
18 Sep 2014 - 7:22am

I seldom share Fabrications About The PAP posting but the following really makes me laugh. Instead of blaming HDB or rather, PAP's past CORRUPTED minister in charge of HDB of such poor quality HDB flat, they tried to blame WP Town Council! My response to these PAP IBs...

Make up your mind. Isit due to "act of time" or man-made "nice square"

For concrete to fall like that is unusual unless inferior cement was used in the construction phase. The corrosion of bars is dangerous as they are the main supporting structure. If it is corroded due to this exposure to air or water elements caused by the falling concrete, then it would mean great danger. But most likely, the corrosion took place when water sips through the concrete, due to poor waterproofing, put up during the construction phase.

I don't think there is a need for anyone to hack out a squarish concrete part from the pillar.

Thus the conclusion is that such situation could only occur due to poor quality of workmanship or cement used during the construction phase. I don't think this flat is more than 50 year-old and it seems that it is not merely "act of time" but rather, an act of man instead.

This reminds me of the corruption case of PAP minister in charge of HDB in the early 1980s. Was this flat built during that period? Was it due to the corruptions that inferior building materials were used for construction of these HDB flats?

Thus, it amazes me when PAP IB tried to put the blame on WP Town Council before they really think through what it really means...Quite silly actually!


Goh Meng Seng

19 comments

AL Tay · Top Commenter · S. VP at Macquarie Group
Brainless accusation will only make themselves a fool running naked on the street. The only way to handle the fools or the barking loyal dogs it to show them the FIST of FURY. In 2016.
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· 13 · 2 hours ago

Alan Darthy Toh · Top Commenter
The guy behind Fabrications of the PAP and it's follower dogs are all idiots
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· 7 · 3 hours ago

RicePlate Reddy · Top Commenter
Might as well blame the opposition wards for the haze! What about all the typhoons, earthquakes and hurricanes?? Hey... there's lots the pappies (and their minions) can blame the opposition for. If the sun doesn't rise tomorrow - it's the opposition's fault ! Gimme a break.... totally brainless
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· 6 · 2 hours ago

Kheng Tan · Top Commenter · Works at Castle age
This shows the quality Papayas attracts. Full of clowns n idiots, serving it own motive $$$ instead of serving people.
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· 2 · 2 hours ago

Collin WH · Top Commenter · Singapore
Thus Stupid Idiot clown of the PAP Chairman so desperate to be in the MP position .... The more they blame the more our Vite swing towards Opposition and I for one will Standup for the opposition and guide them to dismantle this massive machine gradually and slowly....fellow Singaporean do it for our children future and our friends and relatives out there.
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· 4 · 2 hours ago

Teh Garett · Top Commenter · Works at Soul Society - ブリーチ
Socially engineered idiots.
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· 4 · 3 hours ago

RicePlate Reddy · Top Commenter
Exactly. Don't forget brainwashed as well...
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· 2 hours ago

Ken Lau · Top Commenter
HDB can even get ur patent revoked...what do chuu think?
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· 3 · 2 hours ago

Kenneth Paw · Works at Singapore, Singapore
Think the writer also got some facts wrong. It is obvious to ppl in construction industry that the area is hack due to spalling concrete. Most rebars in sg has a layer of rust but that actually does not deteriorate the integrity of the rebars. I believe as with most contractors repairing spalling concrete, most likely they need to get approval for the total area to be repaired before they proceed. And by hacking off the loose concrete, it's actually quite safe compared to leaving it untouched as pieces of plaster might fall and hit ppl.
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· 1 · 2 hours ago

Haziq Evan Rose · Top Commenter
As if a Town Council run by the opposition that hadn't been voted in yet at the time have any say in the construction of a low-quality flat.
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· 1 · 3 hours ago

Sookin Seah · Calayan Educational Foundation Inc.
That go the same to me when they started to build the downtown line 2 at bukit panjang. After drilling and banging 24/7 until you really cant sleep. The wall and tiles in my house started to crack including beams. Bring the issue to hdb and and they send their so call engineer to come an inspect those cracks l report. A few days later, l received a reply from them saying that is safe to live in. If l want to have it repair, they can reccomend me their hdb contractors and l can call them repair at my own cost. My house is only 13 years only. There is no such things happen before they built the downtown line2. What l knoww is that, in the end, they will just push all the responsibilities back to you. WTH. Wasting 2 days of my time staying at home waiting for them to inspect and come to no solution but to recomend me their hdb contractors. Very disappointed.
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· 5 minutes ago

冲林 · Top Commenter
wait wait! can they explain the declining workmanship of HDB flats in other constituencies? : O

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202235495943643&set=o.152408424825883&type=3&theater
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· 26 minutes ago

Ken Chong · Top Commenter · Jurong, Singapore
to be fair - i think victor comment was about the sign and barriers to warn ppl as advised by HDB is by WP TC. but HDB should have acted immediately since its their defect and not refer...but then the area seems tidy and if there are no further risk of falling concrete .. put signs and barrier for what ? as if u never see such things in HDB flats before.
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· about an hour ago

Ken Ng
It's just like one female minister saying they will match toll of the Malaysia counterpart. Senseless comment that have no regards to its people using the causeway. Talk is free, only the people suffer. Do we need such highly paid minister to take care of us?
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· 54 minutes ago

Boy Golden · Top Commenter · Nanyang Polytechnic
Convenient Finger pointing and excuse laden behaviour is nothing new. What makes me laugh is that they rather scrutinize and FB it , than trying to make things work for better. Useless... instead he should go do ROUNDing around himself and see whats wrong
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· about an hour ago

Desmond Tan · Works at SIA Engineering Company
I rather focus on the safety of the pillar which support the flat. Amazed why the focus is shifted on the political issue. Whoever maintaing the ward to have the responsibility, why blame the whistle blower?
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· about an hour ago

自由人 · Works at Marina Bay Sands
I think whether last time got corruption or not we dun know. But now this thing happen no barricade and sign put up to warn public. To be fair should blame the town council.
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· about an hour ago

Michael Lim · Singapore
You can see cracks at my block's rubbish chutes right at the ground floor landing... So who is supposed to take care of it?
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· about an hour ago

Roy Daly Teo · Tiong bahru sec
Tai chi............
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· about an hour ago

Ok, i will try to explain something. the corruption of the teh cheang wan has nothing to do with this kind of workmanship like concrete falling to pieces. The quality of the concrete is spec out when the construction bids are put in. There is building codes in singapore that specify the quality of the concrete. When they are pouring it, or when they pre-fab it, its the job of inspectors to test it and make sure it is the spec, before they will pass it. Obviously, the inspectors fail to do so in this case, Teh cannot be everywhere inspecting all the stages of construction. than the question becomes did Teh order the inspectors to turn a blind eye. this was not mentioned at all in corruption scandal. Or did the contractor bribe the inspector to keep quiet ( a more likelier scenario if you ask me). The HDB already realizes that many of these blocks are death traps. concrete falling down is not as dangerous as 2 storey high cracks in the building. The HDB is rushing now to "upgrade" these blocks. to me, they are structurally unsound. I will not be surprised to see a block collapse in the next few years.

Also, u have to realize that HDB flats are build essentially by the lowest cost workmen the contractors can find, These workmen were farmers only weeks before being hired and given a crash course in a construction trade and than send to build HDB blocks. In the US and other western country, a construction worker is a professional. he has gone thru years of technical training and schooling, and has tens of thousands of dollars in equipment and pick up truck, etc. when he builds a building, its a professional doing it. when a HDB block is build in singapore, its build by a part time farmer. the workmanship is worlds apart. These people may not know substandard concrete when they pour it. or they did not cure it properly, etc. there are so many steps that these amateur builders could have fucked up. In the end, you get 30 year old blocks with this issue. There are high rise buildings in Europe and the US that are over 60 years old, and u do not see these problems. eg Chrysler and empire state buildings are still prime properties in the US.

Wow, Jason Chua and his PAP shill dogs are really hard at work.

Still a while to go before the next GE and they're already trying to fix the opposition.

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P.S: If you want proof that Five Stars And A Moon is a PAP shill site, this and this will clear all doubts. Note that the blog was started in early May 2011... around the time of GE2011. Things happen for a reason, it's not coincidence.

http://www.therealsingapore.com/con...n-bedok-punggol-reservoir-victor-lye-it-again

PAP BRANCH CHAIRMAN AT BEDOK-PUNGGOL RESERVOIR VICTOR LYE IS AT IT AGAIN

Victor Lye, the PAP Branch Chairman at Bedok-Punggol Reservoir is at it again.

Early this year, he tried to incite unhappiness among the ward's residents against The Workers' Party in the hawker centre cleaning saga and accused it of passing over flats in the area for interim upgrading.

Now he is casting another set of aspersions against the Town Council - this time over a fallen slab of concrete he came across while taking his leisurely walk.

But Victor Lye, you are barking up the wrong tree.

For a slab of concrete to fall off like that, the cause is quite clearly associated with the poor quality of concrete used by the HDB. And as we know the poor quality of materials used by HDB in building flats on the cheap has long been an issue of concern.

An by the way, what is the purpose of taking a group photo in front of the concrete? Shouldn't you do something constructive and write to HDB to hold them to account instead?

Note: Victor Lye is the General Manager of Shenton Insurance Pte Ltd located at 20 Bendemeer Road. We urge all to boycott this insurance company where possible.

The Alternative View

laksaboy said:

Wow, Jason Chua and his PAP shill dogs are really hard at work.

Still a while to go before the next GE and they're already trying to fix the opposition.

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must score points now mah...........

All these clowns are out to play, 2016 drawing near, but the more they play, they more ugly they become. Got mouth say others, no mouth say themselves. Shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!

victor lye is trulee a 无赖

wendychan said:

must score points now mah...........

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no time is a bad time to score points.

When one does not have substance, and make concrete proposals, all one can do is to pick on the bits and pieces and make mountains out of molehills. This PLP has neither substance nor class; these are just people who like to drop names. IDIOT.

laksaboy said:

Wow, Jason Chua and his PAP shill dogs are really hard at work.

Still a while to go before the next GE and they're already trying to fix the opposition.

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Current PAP IB shitlist
Isogallardo
Savingtheworld
MaxRiley
dodgeball
AtheneaCroft
Kenneth
pillowtalk
zeroo
ysy48


P.S: If you want proof that Five Stars And A Moon is a PAP shill site, this and this will clear all doubts. Note that the blog was started in early May 2011... around the time of GE2011. Things happen for a reason, it's not coincidence.

Click to expand...