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OverTheCounter

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It seems that our system is in a bad state. We have NUS employing someone with fake claim of academic credentials, we have people with fake degree granted PR by ICA and I really don't know how many fake declarations made about salaries (with the help of employers) and academic qualifications which made it through to get employment passes, S-passes, PR and even citizenship!


Our PAP government is just too LAX in scrutinizing all these applications and even PAP MP jumped into defence of sweet-talking FOREIGN CHEATs so readily without even doing due diligence, just because these people have offered their help to PAP's grassroot! What a shame!


- gms
 

frenchbriefs

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sinkies deserved to be fucked,double fucked,fisted,deepthroated,bukkaked,anal fisted,double fisted every which way to sunday.
 

Leongsam

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It seems that our system is in a bad state. We have NUS employing someone with fake claim of academic credentials, we have people with fake degree granted PR by ICA and I really don't know how many fake declarations made about salaries (with the help of employers) and academic qualifications which made it through to get employment passes, S-passes, PR and even citizenship!


Our PAP government is just too LAX in scrutinizing all these applications and even PAP MP jumped into defence of sweet-talking FOREIGN CHEATs so readily without even doing due diligence, just because these people have offered their help to PAP's grassroot! What a shame!


- gms

Singapore is far more stringent compared to NZ.

No system is 100% foolproof. There are always loopholes that can be exploited. However, you can rest assured that the Singapore system is up there with the best so don't worry about it.

Be thankful that the PAP government is efficient, honest and extremely hardworking and strives to give Singaporeans the best lives possible despite the fact that the odds are against them in many ways.
 

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/9803258/CV-fraud-at-epidemic-levels

9/18/2014 CV fraud at epidemic levels | Stuff.co.nz


FIONA ROTHERHAM

CV fraud at epidemic levels

Last updated 05:00 09/03/2014

DETAILS: Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully with Michael Vukcevic before Vukcevic’s CV was
found to have been falsified.

An Auckland private investigator claims 80 per cent of CVs his firm is called in to check turn out to be
false in some way.

Graham Aylett of Aylett Investigations cited the example of an applicant for a top job at an
international hotel chain who claimed he had worked at a hotel in another country. Trouble was, the
applicant had never actually been to that country.

Other private investigators and recruiters say while CV fraud is widespread, the number of CVs that
prove to be either misleading or outright incorrect is more in the range of 15 to 20 per cent. They say
private investigators often get called in once a company already has suspicions over a candidate.

It's a problem that has been around for many years, both locally and overseas, and it reared its ugly
head again last month when it was revealed Michael Vukcevic falsely claimed to have a law degree
from Victoria University when he applied for the top job at multinational law and patent firm Baldwins.

Aylett said of the 50 or so background checks his firm did a year, 80 per cent had shown something of
concern, particularly in higher salary roles involving overseas candidates. Much of the fraud falls
under massaging the truth rather than outright fabrication but he also cites incidences of people
claiming to study at educational places or giving the names of referees who don't exist.

PwC's 2014 Global Economic Crime Survey, out last month, found human-resources fraud - which
includes fake CVs - had for the first time become one of the big five frauds affecting Kiwi businesses.
Theft was still the biggest issue at 70 per cent, but HR fraud was listed at 15 per cent.

John Peebles, a director at executive search consultant John Peebles Associates, said CV fraud had
become more common because of the rise of the internet. "People accept what is put up online as
gospel ,when it may not be so."

It's speculated Peebles was the whistleblower in New Zealand's highest-profile example of CV fraud -
that of Canadian John Davy, who served half of a six-month prison sentence for fraud after being
hired in 2002 to head the Maori Television Service.

He won the job with a fabricated CV that included a fake Master of Business Administration obtained
through the internet. Peebles' firm had been involved in a search for another television chief executive
shortly before Davy's appointment, and Peebles is understood to have questioned Davy's credentials
to former Act MP Rodney Hide after his name didn't surface when searching internationally for
potential candidates for the other role.

Around a quarter of the resumes Peebles' firm checks out unearth problems with the candidate's CV,
most typically with false qualifications or with offshore candidates who often fail to have the required
residency status to work here, he said.

Whether a recruitment company or the employer should do background checks on job candidates
comes down to the detail of the recruitment contract. Whoever does it is not so important as long as it
is done and thoroughly, Peebles said, but that is often not the case. He still sees a number of people
appointed to top roles, although he had previously found problems with their claimed credentials when
they applied for other jobs he was recruiting for.

Often a red flag is raised when candidates refuse to give permission for the background checks to be
done. Background screening specialist Craig Gubbins of Personal Verification said he frequently sees
candidates drop out when told background checks would be required, even though they had
conducted multiple interviews and were just shy of being offered the job.

"I can't say what the reasonis for them withdrawing but you can reach a conclusion when it comes so late in the process," he said.
James Sutherland from Resume Check, another background screening specialist, said the statistics
were heading down for his clients because they had introduced robust pre-screening programmes. He
said problems were revealed in about 15 per cent of resumes, compared to 20 per cent a few years
ago.

Problems with CVs occurred across enterprises, from board level to factory floor, Sutherland said. He
said people typically embellished their qualifications to meet the job specifications - saying they had
completed a degree, for example, when they had only done a few papers. "Only a small percentage
tell an outright lie."

Gubbins thinks the background screening industry in New Zealand is immature compared to other
countries because too many Kiwi employers think they are good judges of character and rely on gut
instinct. He cited the example of a south Auckland company a couple of years ago that had money
stolen from them by the company accountant who it had hired without checking his qualifications. He
wasn't a qualified accountant.

In another example, a job applicant failed to get a job she'd gone for after performing badly on a prescreening
test for predilection for theft Gubbins conducted. She had objected to being called a thief by
him but he said she was later convicted of stealing from another company that had hired her in a
finance role. Her excuse was apparently that she was "tired of being poor", he said.

CV FRAUD CASES IN NZ

February 2014: Michael Vukcevic resigned as CEO of Baldwins after falsely claiming to have a law
degree.

January 2014: Caroline Watene, who worked for the Maori tertiary institution Te Wananga O
Aotearoa, was sentenced to nine months home detention after having falsely claiming to have a
diploma in Te Reo Maori from the University of Waikato.

May 2013: Tracy Hibbard, a childcare employee, was sentenced to eight months home detention after
being convicted of forging her childcare qualifications. She had cut and pasted and photocopied
documents to make a diploma look genuine.

September 2012: Rosylin Singh was stuck off the Nurse's Registrar after being found guilty of forging
her practising certificate. When she applied for a role as school nurse she included a referee who
gave a positive recommendation but the person named as referee later denied ever having been
spoken to and the contact phone number was not hers.

May 2012: Te Rito Miki, a convicted child sex offender, was sentenced to seven charges of using
false CVs and a birth certificate to gain teaching positions at six schools.

May 2011: Maria Lewis, a 57-year-old Hawke's Bay school principal with more than 30 years teaching
experience, was found guilty of fabricating a job reference when she applied for the principal's role.

March 2010: Mary-Anne Thompson, the former head of the New Zealand Immigration Service
pleaded guilty to CV fraud and was fined $10,000 and given 100 hours of community work. The
charges related to CV fraud allegedly commmitted in 1989,1998 and 2002 when she used a false CV
to secure senior government positions by claiming to have a PhD from the London School of
Economics.

May 2010: Trevor Esera, a 33-year-old IT manager, was sentenced to three years 10 months jail for
using a false CV to secure a position as Rinnai New Zealand's accountant, then stealing $1.75 million
from the company.

October 2010: Stephen Wilce resigned as chief scientist for the New Zealand Defence Force after a
TV3 investigation revealed he had fabricated his CV. Reference checking failed to uncover he had
previously been dismissed from another company for poor performance.

October 2010: Filipino-born Julia Jose was sentenced to seven months detention, 200 hours
community service and ordered to pay full reparation after being convicted of defrauding her
employer, the Wellington Regional Chamber of Commerce, of $54,000. The former finance manager
didn't have the qualifications claimed, including an MBA. Source: Personal Verification Ltd

- Sunday Star Times
 

Belgarath

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Singapore is far more stringent compared to NZ.

No system is 100% foolproof. There are always loopholes that can be exploited. However, you can rest assured that the Singapore system is up there with the best so don't worry about it.

Be thankful that the PAP government is efficient, honest and extremely hardworking and strives to give Singaporeans the best lives possible despite the fact that the odds are against them in many ways.


Actually all kinds of standards as well as checks and balances in Singapore have slackened considerably over the years. That's why people feel a need to complain, because they contrast how much the country has sunk vis-à-vis even as recently as 10 years ago. The internet of course amplifies the dissenting voices.

That fact that you have to defend the Singapore system on a constant basis is itself an indictment to the system. In other more mature democracies criticism is not only commonplace but expected, and people do not habitually compare themselves with other countries to support government policies.
 

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boss sam pls dont compare to medicore countries. in any case. party against people has dropped from solid gold to gold plated n further down to chrome plated. dont know how far from the gutter this is but certainlee not anywhere near to the skyhigh pay they dont deserve.
 

tanwahtiu

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it has come to this time, look at 'guess which race' read where they from first.

Go study robotic engineering now to get rid of scumbag fake workers and put in robots.
 

laksaboy

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If you let one group of self-serving politicians do whatever they please without accountability, bad things inevitably happen.

This is not rocket science.
 

Leepotism

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Our mini-stars are also real incompetents with fake abilities....

These are their abilities. They know how to please their Dear Leeder Kim Jong Yew by claps, claps, claps.

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Leongsam

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If you let one group of self-serving politicians do whatever they please without accountability, bad things inevitably happen.

Just wait till you've had a taste of the politicians in NZ, OZ and the UK. You'll be thanking your lucky stars that the PAP team are far more responsible, hardworking and dedicated to the country.
 

OverTheCounter

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If you let one group of self-serving politicians do whatever they please without accountability, bad things inevitably happen.

This is not rocket science.


Under GCT and LHL, things went downhill as running the country became all about money and people were left out of the equation.
 

Leongsam

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Under GCT and LHL, things went downhill as running the country became all about money and people were left out of the equation.

Life boils down to finances in any country. It's hardly a uniquely Singaporean situation.

The lower income groups in NZ complain just as loudly as the low income sinkies.

Ultimately, life is what you make of it regardless of where you are in the world.
 

OverTheCounter

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Life boils down to finances in any country. It's hardly a uniquely Singaporean situation.

The lower income groups in NZ complain just as loudly as the low income sinkies.

Ultimately, life is what you make of it regardless of where you are in the world.


Yes, life is what you make of it, and you form your own reality.

However this does preclude us from vigorously criticizing what has gone wrong.
 

Leongsam

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Yes, life is what you make of it, and you form your own reality.

However this does preclude us from vigorously criticizing what has gone wrong.

Criticising is fine but you have to put things in the correct perspective.

The PAP does a far better job than most other countries but as is the case with all systems, mistakes will be made. No system is foolproof.

If an investigator was assigned to each and every applicant, the noose would be a lot tighter but the whole system would collapse. 1000 applicants would require 1000 investigators each spending weeks on end doing background checks, interviewing references and cross referencing hundreds of documents searching for subtle discrepancies. No country can afford to be that stringent and still have a functional system. The cornerstone of most systems is in fact a statutory declaration made by the applicant him/herself. If people actually lie in their declarations, it doesn't mean that they will be caught. It does mean that if they do get caught, they can end up in serious trouble.

I can give an analogy when someone goes for a medical exam for employment. The exam isn't stringent by any measure. Blood pressure, a chest X ray perhaps and a medical declaration and you're hired but you could have a tumor growing in your brain. No pre employment health screen involves an MRI brain scan as far as I know.

If pre employment health screening checked for all conceivable ailments under the sun, it would cost the company tens of thousands per applicant. It would be fantastic in theory but it just isn't workable in practice.

Another analogy is tax returns. The individual declares his taxes and signs the paperwork. Many people cheat. Some get caught and some don't. It is not the fault of the tax department if the person does not truthfully declare his income. However, the tax department does make sure that those who do get caught have to pay a high price.
 

krafty

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dun talk so fasssst....!!!

not all of them are fit to be a minister, however, for some reason, they are there cos' of fame, power, monetary and ultimately, paving their own path down their road for more money either as a businessman or director in a listed company. if robert lee cut his crony ministers' salaries, i bet you will see all their true colours.
either citing personal reason to pursue own interest or handling the baton to the next generation. of course, robert lee will not do that, he needs his crony ministers to be there to tickle his balls with love, always...:rolleyes:

Be thankful that the PAP government is efficient, honest and extremely hardworking and strives to give Singaporeans the best lives possible despite the fact that the odds are against them in many ways.
 

Leongsam

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that is why you are able to get your entry sheepland.

Exactly. NZ immigration did not check with any of my references. In my case I told no lies but had I pulled a few porkies, they would have been none the wiser because they did not do any background work regarding my application. They accepted my declaration that I had told the truth. I gave them no cause to think otherwise.
 
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