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Malaki Osman should reflect if Islam really wants to cause hardship to all poor by increasing GST to indirectly sponsor Muslim Haj...

watchmen said:

Re thread (A1): Will CPF treat pilgrims the same way they treat tikos and gamblers?
So must treat pilgrims like tikos and gamblers all cannot take cpf?

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U very the controversial wan: purposely compare Muslim pilgrims to tikos and gamblers to produce friction and heat: I let that slip this one time, anyway, U better be careful: ISIS might be planning to kidnapp u.

Anyhow, good thing about Singapore is that even ah beng "tikos and gamblers" have to serve NS: which is where they at least learn some discipline and integrate with the rest: so our streets are generally safe from gangs and other vice activities.

Gahmen already says that national coffers are in shortfall, thus their planned GST hike to 10% in 2016 etc: which would adversely HURT POOR PEOPLE. Singapore is a unique state where NS is much part of everyday life: everyone MUST chip in for the good of the whole.

Which is why the silly PAP walkovers/coat-tails puppet MP (Malaki Osman) has got his priorities quite wrong in term of the 5 pillars of Islam which I believe is very much focused on helping the poor.
The 5 pillars of Islam, formatted similar to the 10 commandments, are ranked in hirechy of importance: the first commandment/pillar being of significantly MORE importance than the last. Even this comprehensive Muslim website about the 5 pillars of Islam states that : "Unlike the other four Pillars, the Hajj can be skipped if it involves great hardships."

Under the category of 'zakat', it is explained: "Muslims are expected to give to the poor and sick. Although the zakat is not regulated by the government, sincere Muslims regard it as an important religious duty. In fact, the Koran addresses almsgiving as an essential quality of an honest Muslim, a gateway into heaven."

In my mind: an increase in GST will only make the poor poorer and MORE SICK since such price inflation will definitely FORCE THEM TO GET BY WITH EVEN LESS.

The cuckoo coat-tails walkovers sock-puppet PAP GRC MP is only playing to the superficial, ritualistic and less faithful Muslim sentiments. Bet he knows nuts about Islam himself: increasing GST so that some Muslims could go on gahmen charity having exhausted their CPF minimum sum to go on Haj???!!! And then cause GREAT HARDSHIPS TO ALL THE POOR because GST is then increased???!!!

The CPF Minimum Sum is the MINIMUM amount of personal $$$ savings needed for every retired Singaporean (a form of NATIONAL SERVICE) so as not to burden poor citizens with hardship of increased GST etc: doing the Haj shouldn't inconvenience others, MUCH LESS CAUSE HARDSHIPS TO THE POOR.

This is the kind of theologically misled, pork-barrel Muslim MP that any sane society shouldn't accept: robbing the poor to send some Muslims on ritualistic Haj, throwing the whole concept of national service/ fiscal prudence out of the window... This is the kind of shameless, pork-barrel MP that Singapore does not need.

Hell awaits that mean man who caused increased hardships for the poor..

Scheduled GST increase thanks to pork-barrel coat-tails PAP MP who demands gahmen handouts and free gifts at the expense of the poor:...
02March2012: DPM Tharman: Government revenues need to be raised.

Full text: 08June2012: Singapore's growth expected to slow in next decade

22August2013: GST hike ‘more likely’ if Govt needs to raise revenue for new initiatives

Please don't conflate 'Flexibility' with having to increase GST ...$$$ does not grow

Please don't conflate 'Flexibility' with having to increase GST ...$$$ does not grow on trees.

Inix said:

Re thread (HWZ): Malaki Osman should reflect if Islam really wants to cause hardship to all poor by increasing GST to indirectly sponsor Muslim Haj...
I don't know whats wrong with you, but the Haj is just an example that the government is using. People want to withdraw $$ from their CPF from a variety of reasons. Maybe they have a family emergency. Maybe they want a Holiday. Maybe they NEED a holiday. Maybe they need a new home. Maybe their family need money. Its a choice. The Haj, to Muslims isn't so much as a choice. They are compelled to go if they can.

Its like many elderly Chinese, who feels a need to go back to their former hometown. They might be born and raised here, but some people still feels that they need to visit where their forefathers were brought up. This is normal. And if CPF, which is a mandatory retirement savings scheme can help them do that, I see this as a plus.

Allowing people to withdraw their CPF does not automatically entails that GST must increase. It just means that we will have a bit more flexibility.

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Even before Roy Ngerng started the whole CPF hoo ha (circa 2014), PAP had already revealed its intent to raise GST (March2012 article (#Tharman) as annexed above), what more if the minimum sum CPF rule is eroded by various excuse exceptions by differing racial groups for 'necessities' as they claim ranging from need to invest for 'higher returns' to 'higher calling' such as the Haj or even 'inner callings' like the urge to visit casino???!!!

Unless U are on the side of people who insist on scrapping NS and CPF totally (like anarchist), u should understand WHY basic rules such as CPF Minimum sum and NS exists: the former to protect national soil, the latter to protect citizens against Singapore degenerating into a bankrupt welfare state: by ensuring that every citizen has access to a MINIMUM monthly self-funded pension scheme.
As it is, I understand that S$155,000 in the retirement account will yield the member a S$1200 p.m. payout after age 65yrs for life although those with a property pledge (cannot sell the property IIRC) are entitled to reduce the minimum sum amount by half, and receive S$600 p.m. pension/ annuity payment.

Already, the majority of Singaporeans think that S$1200 is below their expectations of $2000p.m. pension which would require a minimum sum of S$250,000 to fulfill so S$155k is already the barest of minimum just like the NS period CANNOT be shorter than 2 yrs to fulfill national defence requirements.

For Muslims insistent on going for the Haj, those with a property pledge can cut down their CPF minimum sum requirement to S$75k after withdrawing the rest: and subsist upon a meagre S$600p.m. pension for the rest of their lives (inflation notwithstanding). For those without a property pledge, S$1200p.m. is the barest of minimum given to subsist in Singapore: any less will probably be a sickly choice and place them dependent on gahmen handouts and freebies given to the high cost of rentals etc in Singapore. Such freebies would MOST LIKELY have to be sought from the raising of GST which is in itself a self-fulfilling prophecy towards the neglect of the poor since the poor are the most affected by taxes in the form of inflation/GST increase.

Medical treatment in Singapore is supposed to be world class and also heavily subsidised (medifund) so I doubt any genuine emergency exists. As for the Haj, Chinese returning to ancestor villages or even a casino visit, these could have been planned for much earlier, by buying less 4D/Toto play cards, smoking less or abstaining from alcohol altogether and working harder and smarter....

It is the worst kind of people, the most dishonest are those who who veil with the excuse of 'flexibility': their actual intentions to make society foot the bill for their selfish personal extra-cirricular interest. As mentioned, even the Haj is optional in so far as it causes excess hardship: surely then, hardship imposed on the poor and needy in society CANNOT be the acceptable outcome/ choice. Or can it???!!!

It would be a travesty if stealing from the poor (viz covert increase in GST) were the path to heaven. The walkovers/ coat-tails Muslim PAP MP in question needs to urgently clarify his ill-conceived suggestion of special exceptions for Haj going Muslims from the CPF Minimum sum scheme.

And neither should a drug addict be granted any 'flexibility' to access his next 'quick fix': no if's, and's or but's allowed.

I hope U can thus understand the policy principles/intentions behind NS/ the CPF Minimum sum scheme.

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Reasons why I think Maliki Osman is LESS Singaporean than most...

Reasons why I think Maliki Osman is LESS Singaporean than most...

cancer81 said:

Thread source (HWZ): Maliki Osman should reflect if Islam really wants to cause hardship to all poor by increasing GST to indirectly sponsor Muslim Haj
I tot you always insisted that Singapore engages in heavy Quantitative Easing and have been printing money at a rate that is unhealthy?
Money do not grow on trees, the government PRINTS it!!

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Yes, thanks for reminding. And yes, despite already printing nett new $$$ at an already unsustainable rate of 8.7736% p.a. (22 yrs trend), they still say $$$ not enough: year-marked to raise GST to 10% in 2016/thereabouts (3 news paper cut outs as evidence above).

Obviously, the problem now is that many PAP MPs have since lost sense of reality/ $ prudency having enjoyed their stratospheric MP/ ministerial salaries for so many years to date that they are perhaps becoming TOTALLY dependent of pork-barrel politics to run this nation aground...

CPF Minimum sum is called 'Minimum' for a reason: it guarantees to some extent that all Singaporeans and PR are financially self-sufficient: to protect the greater good (nation's financial strength/ independence) just as NS maintains the territorial independence of Singapore.

Now, Muslim MP says minimum sum is for Muslim Haj: which is a slippery slope argument insofar that it stimulates my Chinese marneyfaced-MP to propose that Minimum sum is also need to buy motor-car COE since to him car is necessity and in fact he owns two...

Zero minimum sum means that every other old folk will be on gahmen charity aka 'public assistance' scheme: FOC $430/mth + 100% free medical + subsidised 1-RM rental flat @ S$21/mth: at these rates, I believe that GST will probably have to increase at maybe 1-2% p.a. just to subsidise these lazy/greedy old folk who use their CPF minimum sum for everything from pte car transport to donations to CHC Con Hee Fah Chai can stay on Sentosa Cove pent house: which then TOTALLY DEFEATS the spirit of national service, which in the case of the elderly: is simplified to being independent about their own financial health so as not to burden the Singapore Gahmen with excess/ unnecessary costs.

Minimum is call MINIMUM for a reason. If the silly Maliki Osman cannot understand the meaning of MINIMUM, then he does not deserve even to call himself Singaporean, even if he is a successful PAP puppet MP (: another travesty of the Singapore political system).

BTW, if Mr Maliki is still so keen on sending every Muslim on Haj, then why not BAN ALL 2nd HAJ visits or impose an exponential Haj COE of 1000% the price of Haj for 2nd Haj visit and 10k% the 3rd and so fourth since I am aware of some Muslims going more than once which then proves that the Haj is no more than just ritual and little more than a human certification of 'faith'.

I believe that God values charity just as the Christian Bible states Jesus Christ teaching as: Matthew 25:40: "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'"- (NIV): which simply proves that true religion is a mindset of charity to the poor and disenfranchised: not just fashion driven human rituals that cause a nation to be poor or a lame excuse to defeat the definition of national service towards the safeguarding of the spirit of individual self-sufficiency where the CPF Minimum Sum scheme is concerned.