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The Worst Investment You Can Make: Buying a Home

winnipegjets

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The Worst Investment You Can Make: Buying a Home

Dreams die hard. None of us want to give up the belief that we could be a rock star, a billionaire or even the president of the United States. Right now, nearly every 40-something man in this country believes, somewhere deep in the recesses of his mind, that given the chance, he could still play pro ball (some form of ball) -- no matter how much the unvarnished facts would say otherwise.

But perhaps the most quintessential of American dreams is the dream of home ownership. We are taught, generation after generation, to work hard, save up and put down roots by buying a house. And just like those armchair ballplayers, when we buy into that dream, we're deluding ourselves.

In his article, "Five Things Your Need to Know Before Buying a House," author, pundit and successful Wall Street guy James Altucher rejects the home ownership mantra. Among his reasons: "The stress is unbearable when you need to sell. And you have no money when you need it."

Altucher lists various ways in which owning a home can drain one's mental well-being and can become a financial nightmare as well.

Mathematically, it doesn't make sense

When you do the math on home ownership, it's plain that it is one of the worst investments you can make. Consider the purchase of a $350,000 house, which is slightly over the current average U.S. sales price.

In most cases, you will be required to have a 20 percent down payment, or $70,000. This leaves you with a loan balance of $280,000, which at the current interest rate of 4.5 percent for a 30-year fixed mortgage will give you a monthly payment of $1,853.10.

At the end of that mortgage, you will have paid $667,166 in principal and interest –- or $387,116 more than the original loan amount. During that same period, assuming a 1.5 percent rate, you will also have to pay another $126,000 in property taxes. (And there are plenty of places where the tax rate is higher.)

But wait, there's more. Using a 1 percent maintenance rate -- for upkeep, maintenance, and repairs -- you can add another $3,500 per year in costs, bringing the total out-of-pocket costs over 30-years to $898,166.

What Could You Have Done With That Money?

But the dream really fails when you factor in the lost opportunity costs associated with all that money.

Since you have to live somewhere, let's assume you could find a similar rental home for 75 percent of your monthly mortgage payment, or roughly $1,400 per month. Then say that you invested that $70,000 down payment in the stock market, which has averaged a 9.4 percent return over the last 100 years.

Then, each year, you add to your investment the difference between your rent payment and potential mortgage payment, as well as the money you save by not paying for property taxes, maintenance and other costs of home ownership.

After 30 years, you would have nearly $3 million in your portfolio.

Of course there are numerous tweaks you can make to this scenario -– for example, factoring in your home's price appreciation or the tax benefits -– but no matter how you slice it, owning a home doesn't come anywhere close to making financial sense.

20 Ways to Slice and Dice the Inputs

Don't believe me? Check out this super cool interactive calculator that the New York Times created. It allows you to input over 20 variables to try and justify owning vs. renting. See if you can make the math work out in favor of home ownership.

Proponents of owning will tell you that there are certain intangibles associated with purchasing your home that trump mere financial considerations. The sense of community. The feeling of planting roots. The ability to change or redesign your house at will. And all of these points are valid, and may tip the scales for some in this debate.

But facts are facts. You can rationalize whatever reasons you want for owning vs. renting, but numbers don't lie, and it's important to at least go into the process with eyes wide open.

Brian Lund's blog offers more on personal finance, the stock market, investing and the secret to eternal life.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Owning a home gives you immediate security. A single man or woman can still get by renting, but not so for families. There's privacy, comfort and peace of mind owning your own home. No amount of money can replace these intangibles.

The trick here is own a home that is well within your means and leave enough of your disposal income for stock and business investment. There is no need to use home as an investment tool.

If you choose a good location or if you live in a country like HK or SG which is land scarce, capital appreciation is guaranteed over the long run. The capital appreciation alone will compensate for interest costs and property tax. Property is the ultimate inflation hedge, even better than gold or silver in terms of beating inflation.

I can tell you very confidently that in 30 years time, a 5-room resale HDB flat will go for at least three million singapore dollars. Guaranteed. You can lock this post for posterity. Your mortgage is nothing as long as you buy within your means.
 

eatshitndie

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bought several homes during downturns, and all of them have so far generated the best roi in my portfolio.
 

Kuailan

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Buying a home in SG still alright there's capital gain in few years!

But purchasing a house, condo in Iskandar you'll be screwed big time!

Look at it now both gahmen want to screw motorists deep deep!!

SG start the furore and pretend nothing happened than JB follow suit

SG heh heh?? what happened?? oh see!! Causeway /JB CIQ increased VEP or toll I follow!!

pretend as thought JB is the Culprit!!

Beside all these increases in VEP and toll the JAM is still there, they didn't solved the problem!

they caused more Headache and financial burden to the travellers! WTF!! pity those Malaysian working SG

to get a better life in JB now you're screwed by both gahmen!!
 

frenchbriefs

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im sorry but there is a price to pay for this so called "security",300k is way way way too much and taking on so much debt when ur a poor man trying to build wealth is retarded.

if i lived in america i wouldnt give a damn if i live in security or not,owning a house is a propaganda to tie people down and enter them into a endless cycle of debt and tie up majority of their lifetime networth......it is a propaganda permeated by countries like singapore and UK......many people in america pay low/dirt cheap rent.....im talking $400 rent.

Owning a home gives you immediate security. A single man or woman can still get by renting, but not so for families. There's privacy, comfort and peace of mind owning your own home. No amount of money can replace these intangibles.

The trick here is own a home that is well within your means and leave enough of your disposal income for stock and business investment. There is no need to use home as an investment tool.

If you choose a good location or if you live in a country like HK or SG which is land scarce, capital appreciation is guaranteed over the long run. The capital appreciation alone will compensate for interest costs and property tax. Property is the ultimate inflation hedge, even better than gold or silver in terms of beating inflation.

I can tell you very confidently that in 30 years time, a 5-room resale HDB flat will go for at least three million singapore dollars. Guaranteed. You can lock this post for posterity. Your mortgage is nothing as long as you buy within your means.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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bought several homes during downturns, and all of them have so far generated the best roi in my portfolio.


Exactly. Wait for recession, wait for other people to default en masse on their property and then scoop it up at a discount.

Same goes for stocks. Who bought the S&P in early 2009? Congratulations, you almost tripled your money.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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im sorry but there is a price to pay for this so called "security",300k is way way way too much and taking on so much debt when ur a poor man trying to build wealth is retarded.

if i lived in america i wouldnt give a damn if i live in security or not,owning a house is a propaganda to tie people down and enter them into a endless cycle of debt and tie up majority of their lifetime networth......it is a propaganda permeated by countries like singapore and UK......many people in america pay low/dirt cheap rent.....im talking $400 rent.


Don't take long mortgages and you'll be fine. Let other people kill themselves by purchasing property that is 15 times their annual income and taking 30 year mortgages. The most you go is 7 times your annual income, and 20 year mortgage. Then no worries about getting into endless cycle of debt.
 

ginfreely

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When one become elderly, will definitely need to own a home to live in. Rental is difficult even with money as people won't want to rent to old people in case die inside their house.

Unless it is govt rental scheme and even that is difficult. I have read about how the govt rent out one unit to two unrelated singles to maximise space.
 

ginfreely

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bought several homes during downturns, and all of them have so far generated the best roi in my portfolio.

I also think so properties are my best investment in life although I bought my first property at the peak. But it has generated good rental returns since then.
 

eatshitndie

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Exactly. Wait for recession, wait for other people to default en masse on their property and then scoop it up at a discount.

Same goes for stocks. Who bought the S&P in early 2009? Congratulations, you almost tripled your money.

need to correct myself. although property generated great roi, my best performing investments so far are from tsla and fb stocks. very long term, property is still da bestest. :biggrin:
 

winnipegjets

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Owning a home gives you immediate security. A single man or woman can still get by renting, but not so for families. There's privacy, comfort and peace of mind owning your own home. No amount of money can replace these intangibles.

The trick here is own a home that is well within your means and leave enough of your disposal income for stock and business investment. There is no need to use home as an investment tool.

If you choose a good location or if you live in a country like HK or SG which is land scarce, capital appreciation is guaranteed over the long run. The capital appreciation alone will compensate for interest costs and property tax. Property is the ultimate inflation hedge, even better than gold or silver in terms of beating inflation.

I can tell you very confidently that in 30 years time, a 5-room resale HDB flat will go for at least three million singapore dollars. Guaranteed. You can lock this post for posterity. Your mortgage is nothing as long as you buy within your means.

Who can afford to pay $3 million??????
 

winnipegjets

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When one become elderly, will definitely need to own a home to live in. Rental is difficult even with money as people won't want to rent to old people in case die inside their house.

Unless it is govt rental scheme and even that is difficult. I have read about how the govt rent out one unit to two unrelated singles to maximise space.

You miss the point of that article. You will be financially better off renting and using the difference for investing in equities.

When you have amassed the money and retired, go and use some of that wealth to buy a property.
 

ginfreely

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You miss the point of that article. You will be financially better off renting and using the difference for investing in equities.

When you have amassed the money and retired, go and use some of that wealth to buy a property.

Oic something like term insurance? Buy term and invest the rest and the difference is substantial.
 

neddy

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The Worst Investment You Can Make: Buying a Homee stress is unbearable when you need to sell. And you have no money when you need it.

20 Ways to Slice and Dice the Inputs

Don't believe me? Check out this super cool interactive calculator that the New York Times created. It allows you to input over 20 variables to try and justify owning vs. renting. See if you can make the math work out in favor of home ownership.
Own vs rent
Why not be both?

A and B are childhood mates who bought a house each.
They enter into a agreement that B will buy A's house and rent out to A, and vice versa.

What is the advantage, Australian tax deductions, depreciation and negative gearing. For investment property not available to owner occupier.

At the same time, the rental house feels like a purchased house.
 
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frenchbriefs

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need to correct myself. although property generated great roi, my best performing investments so far are from tsla and fb stocks. very long term, property is still da bestest. :biggrin:

i tot US property market crashed big time in 2008,freddie mac and fannie mae all 1 trillion in the hole and nearly uplorry?afterwards property was never the same again.how come u not homeless yet?
 

Leongsam

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Owning a home forces you to put your money into bricks and mortar instead of blowing it on trivial pursuits.

Renting makes more sense mathematically in some scenarios but it does not take human nature into account.

If I had no bought property in my 20s, I would have ended up buying a Beemer to show off instead of a Honda Civic which was all I could afford after paying my mortgage.

As my salary increased, I would have moved to a more swanky apartment and paid more in rent and purchased a fancier chick magnet rather than invest the salary rise.

At 40, I would have ended up jobless with nothing to my name and I'd now be driving a taxi or wearing a security guard uniform.

However, because I bought property instead of renting, I could sell my humble abode for $2.4 million and call it a day.
 
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