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Discontent among WP's old guard..Internal election drama at Workers' Party HQ

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Something happened with six newer members of the 2012 Central Executive Council not being re-elected. Veteran WP cadre members also spoke openly about their unhappiness at being sidelined by the party bigwigs. -TNP
Sylvia Lim, Low Thia Khiang and Gerald Giam leaving the Workers' Party internal elections on Sunday.



SINGAPORE - Party elections within the Workers' Party (WP) are usually non-events.

And, by all accounts, it was business as usual on Sunday with Sylvia Lim and Low Thia Khiang being returned unchallenged as chairman and secretary-general, respectively.

But something has been brewing since 2011, and it came to a boil with the older cadres openly expressing their unhappiness at how they said they had been treated by the party's bigwigs.

How bad was it?

Cadres, who have voting rights, spoke candidly to The New Paper (TNP). And this was done at a coffee shop under the party's headquarters in Syed Alwi Road.

They voiced their displeasure at how the party had sidelined its veterans, some of whom have been around for more than 15 years, since the time of former party leader J. B. Jeyaretnam.

"We are trying to do something (in the election). See for yourself later," said cadre John Gan, who was formerly chairman of the party, alongside Mr Jeyaretnam.

Six newer members of the Central Executive Council (CEC) did not get the votes they needed to be returned to their positions while two members of the "old guard" were elected.

At the 2012 election, there were 18 CEC members. Twelve of those 18 were re-elected on Sunday. Two older members - L. Somasundaram, 51, and John Yam, 52 - were also elected, taking the total number to 14.

Said Mr Gan: "The younger members are not ready for the party. They think highly of themselves."

The members listed the reasons for their unhappiness:

Newer and younger members who hold degrees are preferred over veterans.

Candidates are parachuted in, despite not having walked the ground, unlike the veterans who have done so for years, but are not rewarded with a position.

They said older members believe that if they are in the CEC, there is a stronger likelihood they will be fielded in constituencies where they stand a chance of winning in an election.

A party insider told The New Paper that because of the unhappiness, Poh Lee Guan, the former assistant secretary-general, tried to contest the 2012 Hougang by-election as a spare candidate, without the party's permission.

Older WP members had previously suggested that Dr Poh, who had been working the Hougang ground for more than a decade, was unhappy at being bypassed by Yaw Shin Leong and later by Png Eng Huat.

Following the incident, Dr Poh was sacked by the party.

The insider, who claimed to be a veteran cadre, said: "Poh worked so hard and for so many years in Hougang, and Low Thia Khiang and Sylvia Lim supported Png Eng Huat to become an MP.

"He was not the only veteran aggrieved by the parachuting in of graduates."

Even before that, older members were unhappy that another veteran, Eric Tan, was bypassed for the Non-Constituency MP seat. That went instead to a younger Gerald Giam.

Soon after, a number of veterans left the party, including Mr Tan, Mohamed Fazli Talip and Sajeev Kamalasanan.

Mr Sajeev, a project manager, told TNP that he quit the party in 2012 because he was unhappy with Mr Low and Ms Lim for preferring the newer members over the experienced ones when it came to the CEC positions.

"I asked Sylvia and Low why weren't those who contested as candidates before offered recognition, but to this date I have not got a reply from them," he said.

"I was asking only for fairness, not for myself but for others. If you want to make your own people cadres (who can vote for the council), you must also be fair to those who stood for election in the past."

According to an e-mail message from the insider, the sentiment was so bad that Ms Lim had to appeal for unity on Sunday.

In a speech delivered behind closed doors, she called for the veterans to be mature and to welcome new blood.

She also told the 70-odd party members who turned up that the WP could not afford to have internal problems or disunity. This was confirmed by two other cadres.

Political observer Eugene Tan said Sunday's result could be a significant sign that the party leaders were being forced to pay attention to the old guard's concerns that they were being sidelined.

Said the Singapore Management University associate law professor: "They could be trying to strike a balance between the long-serving older members and their younger ones, especially with the rise of the party's fortunes over the past two elections.

"But it doesn't mean that those who were voted out are not good enough."

Prof Tan added that this CEC would be the one determining the policies and strategies leading up to the next general election.

"The party may have felt this is its best line-up to reach out to audiences within and outside WP," he said.

So is there a split?

WP member Johnny Chew, 62, a retiree, said the party was "united in its goal".

But he also told TNP: "The new blood should cooperate with the others. Don't do things that can spoil the party's unity."

Ms Lim admitted that the election had been "fiercely contested" but denied there was a rift in the party.

Mr Low declined to comment when approached.

This article by The New Paper was published in MyPaper, a free, bilingual newspaper published by Singapore Press Holdings.
 

virus

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MU with millions of supporters and spare cash can afford to sack 3/4 of the team and rebuild so they can be champion again and not be dragged down by dead woods like those found in MIW.

what is of consequence to 6 ah pek who die die must put a foot in the coffin of heritage as if the party belongs to them and only them?

just look at the destruction at MIW. almost everymother son is related to the familee.

learn to see open.

长江后浪推前浪。前浪还不是迟早死在沙滩上。 dont die die hold on under 91. kena KPKB, no face donno hide where.
 

SgParent

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But something has been brewing since 2011, and it came to a boil with the older cadres openly expressing their unhappiness at how they said they had been treated by the party's bigwigs..
these old timer obviously have an inflated sense of importance.

if they could not survive and thrive in a political party then what chances they have to survive against the white scums? this explains why they have been "contested as candidates before" but failed to win anything.

now that they have also failed in getting in cec they kpkb which says a lot about their political maturity and integrity.

spare tire poh lg is a classic example.
 

eatshitndie

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it's also a sign that the wankers' party has given up on the elder generation which includes ww2 survivors, post-war "pioneers", ah pek's, ah mah's, ah kong's, ah por's, grannies, cleaners with sgd400k savings, tissue ladies, cardboard women, old men with walking sticks, and old farts in wheelchairs. these folks are indebted to the pap, and the amount of pappie goodwill heaped upon them is insurmountable: hdb flat paid for, property asset enhancement, tons of cash savings, withdrawn cpf when minimum sum was low, children and grand children all go to school, many to college, have experienced sg as shithole and fishing village to modern metro, have witnessed 49 ndp's, and finally receiving the much-awaited pioneer package. :p
 

scroobal

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The article gives the impression that the veterans captured the CEC. When you look at the line-up, it shows a different picture.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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The Veterans didn't manage to capture the CEC, you are right about that.

But the Veterans managed to send in their "representatives" into CEC and they are just showing, "don't mess around with us" kind of defiance. Especially so when they managed to get rid of Swee Bee who is deemed as totally lack of tact and disrespectful to them and many others.

Goh Meng Seng



The article gives the impression that the veterans captured the CEC. When you look at the line-up, it shows a different picture.
 

escher

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FUCK!
Only hope for stinkies is that the smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY is about to be a rotting corpse in days and weeks to come.
And that the rotten party that toady to him will implode with their inherent rotteness




PAP is finished.
The stinking glue and terror that hold PAP together is that old fart smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY. LKY is about to die in days or weeks.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP. Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.
They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.


WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS
WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN
WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.
AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.
 

congo9

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these old timer obviously have an inflated sense of importance.

if they could not survive and thrive in a political party then what chances they have to survive against the white scums? this explains why they have been "contested as candidates before" but failed to win anything.

now that they have also failed in getting in cec they kpkb which says a lot about their political maturity and integrity.

spare tire poh lg is a classic example.

Democratic process. What is the drama about ?
 

SgParent

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Democratic process. What is the drama about ?
agree. like i had said, people who are politically naive will think otherwise.

just look at mr rabid goh ms aka mr i-am-always-correct aka mr i-always-have-the last-word. lost in ge2006, lost to a+ silvia to get ncmp seat, he became sore and he has never stopped whining since then.
 

commoner

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if let those old farts stick ard. people will say 换汤不换药,,,, change the old guards, say 忘恩负义,,,, and that is GMS
 

steffychun

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it's also a sign that the wankers' party has given up on the elder generation which includes ww2 survivors, post-war "pioneers", ah pek's, ah mah's, ah kong's, ah por's, grannies, cleaners with sgd400k savings, tissue ladies, cardboard women, old men with walking sticks, and old farts in wheelchairs. these folks are indebted to the pap, and the amount of pappie goodwill heaped upon them is insurmountable: hdb flat paid for, property asset enhancement, tons of cash savings, withdrawn cpf when minimum sum was low, children and grand children all go to school, many to college, have experienced sg as shithole and fishing village to modern metro, have witnessed 49 ndp's, and finally receiving the much-awaited pioneer package. :p

good analysis. Hard to convert the die hards oldies who cant understand the concept of democracy.
 

PissNPiss

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The Veterans didn't manage to capture the CEC, you are right about that.

But the Veterans managed to send in their "representatives" into CEC and they are just showing, "don't mess around with us" kind of defiance. Especially so when they managed to get rid of Swee Bee who is deemed as totally lack of tact and disrespectful to them and many others.

Goh Meng Seng

LTK treats their veterans like 7th month ghosts and kids:
- Invite them (to fill up the table) for the ghost dinner and buffet at Quality Hotel for the annual meeting;
- Bring them for JB/durian trip.

Then LTK expect them to work like shit for free during every GE.

After the GE, LTK invite them for dinner again for their hard work.

Now LTK needs to re-think whether these "practice" is what veterans want.
 

winnipegjets

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PAP spin is that WP is in a big mess ...vote for PAP for stability.

We should dig out PAP dirty linens to air for 2015 ...one dirty linen each month with the full load unleash in 2016.

First story to be released is the Ah Neh faction running the PAP.
 

palden

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Haven't win already split. Hai zzz. This co driver cannot make it la. Become main driver sure accident one.

20140729_tnp_workerspartyinternalelections.jpg

Something happened with six newer members of the 2012 Central Executive Council not being re-elected. Veteran WP cadre members also spoke openly about their unhappiness at being sidelined by the party bigwigs. -TNP
Sylvia Lim, Low Thia Khiang and Gerald Giam leaving the Workers' Party internal elections on Sunday.



SINGAPORE - Party elections within the Workers' Party (WP) are usually non-events.

And, by all accounts, it was business as usual on Sunday with Sylvia Lim and Low Thia Khiang being returned unchallenged as chairman and secretary-general, respectively.

But something has been brewing since 2011, and it came to a boil with the older cadres openly expressing their unhappiness at how they said they had been treated by the party's bigwigs.

How bad was it?

Cadres, who have voting rights, spoke candidly to The New Paper (TNP). And this was done at a coffee shop under the party's headquarters in Syed Alwi Road.

They voiced their displeasure at how the party had sidelined its veterans, some of whom have been around for more than 15 years, since the time of former party leader J. B. Jeyaretnam.

"We are trying to do something (in the election). See for yourself later," said cadre John Gan, who was formerly chairman of the party, alongside Mr Jeyaretnam.

Six newer members of the Central Executive Council (CEC) did not get the votes they needed to be returned to their positions while two members of the "old guard" were elected.

At the 2012 election, there were 18 CEC members. Twelve of those 18 were re-elected on Sunday. Two older members - L. Somasundaram, 51, and John Yam, 52 - were also elected, taking the total number to 14.

Said Mr Gan: "The younger members are not ready for the party. They think highly of themselves."

The members listed the reasons for their unhappiness:

Newer and younger members who hold degrees are preferred over veterans.

Candidates are parachuted in, despite not having walked the ground, unlike the veterans who have done so for years, but are not rewarded with a position.

They said older members believe that if they are in the CEC, there is a stronger likelihood they will be fielded in constituencies where they stand a chance of winning in an election.

A party insider told The New Paper that because of the unhappiness, Poh Lee Guan, the former assistant secretary-general, tried to contest the 2012 Hougang by-election as a spare candidate, without the party's permission.

Older WP members had previously suggested that Dr Poh, who had been working the Hougang ground for more than a decade, was unhappy at being bypassed by Yaw Shin Leong and later by Png Eng Huat.

Following the incident, Dr Poh was sacked by the party.

The insider, who claimed to be a veteran cadre, said: "Poh worked so hard and for so many years in Hougang, and Low Thia Khiang and Sylvia Lim supported Png Eng Huat to become an MP.

"He was not the only veteran aggrieved by the parachuting in of graduates."

Even before that, older members were unhappy that another veteran, Eric Tan, was bypassed for the Non-Constituency MP seat. That went instead to a younger Gerald Giam.

Soon after, a number of veterans left the party, including Mr Tan, Mohamed Fazli Talip and Sajeev Kamalasanan.

Mr Sajeev, a project manager, told TNP that he quit the party in 2012 because he was unhappy with Mr Low and Ms Lim for preferring the newer members over the experienced ones when it came to the CEC positions.

"I asked Sylvia and Low why weren't those who contested as candidates before offered recognition, but to this date I have not got a reply from them," he said.

"I was asking only for fairness, not for myself but for others. If you want to make your own people cadres (who can vote for the council), you must also be fair to those who stood for election in the past."

According to an e-mail message from the insider, the sentiment was so bad that Ms Lim had to appeal for unity on Sunday.

In a speech delivered behind closed doors, she called for the veterans to be mature and to welcome new blood.

She also told the 70-odd party members who turned up that the WP could not afford to have internal problems or disunity. This was confirmed by two other cadres.

Political observer Eugene Tan said Sunday's result could be a significant sign that the party leaders were being forced to pay attention to the old guard's concerns that they were being sidelined.

Said the Singapore Management University associate law professor: "They could be trying to strike a balance between the long-serving older members and their younger ones, especially with the rise of the party's fortunes over the past two elections.

"But it doesn't mean that those who were voted out are not good enough."

Prof Tan added that this CEC would be the one determining the policies and strategies leading up to the next general election.

"The party may have felt this is its best line-up to reach out to audiences within and outside WP," he said.

So is there a split?

WP member Johnny Chew, 62, a retiree, said the party was "united in its goal".

But he also told TNP: "The new blood should cooperate with the others. Don't do things that can spoil the party's unity."

Ms Lim admitted that the election had been "fiercely contested" but denied there was a rift in the party.

Mr Low declined to comment when approached.

This article by The New Paper was published in MyPaper, a free, bilingual newspaper published by Singapore Press Holdings.
 

steffychun

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PAP spin is that WP is in a big mess ...vote for PAP for stability.

We should dig out PAP dirty linens to air for 2015 ...one dirty linen each month with the full load unleash in 2016.

First story to be released is the Ah Neh faction running the PAP.

Goh Meng Seng would counter with more attacks on WP.
 

aurvandil

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The change will happen. The only unknown is who will be the players. Very often, history is made not be the known active players but by unknowns who surface and capture the moment.

The Veterans didn't manage to capture the CEC, you are right about that.

But the Veterans managed to send in their "representatives" into CEC and they are just showing, "don't mess around with us" kind of defiance. Especially so when they managed to get rid of Swee Bee who is deemed as totally lack of tact and disrespectful to them and many others.

Goh Meng Seng
 

Confuseous

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PAP spin is that WP is in a big mess ...vote for PAP for stability.

We should dig out PAP dirty linens to air for 2015 ...one dirty linen each month with the full load unleash in 2016.

First story to be released is the Ah Neh faction running the PAP.

As someone once said, stories of my death are much exaggerated.
 
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