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Goh Meng Seng: LTK has lost his arms and legs politically

winnipegjets

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It is blatantly obvious that with all the internal strife and personality disorders that exist within the WP, it is hardly in a position to run a country.

Thanks goodness we have the PAP at the helm.

There is more internecine strife in the PAP! As you can tell from our current policies that the Ah Nehs are now running the PAP.
 

kukubird58

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Amazing that a person who had been 8 years out of WP can attempt to proffer such inside scoops and behind the scenes analysis of the characters involved as if he were literally present at the party meeting itself.

Did anyone in this thread stop to think how many percent of what he said is accurate and how below the belt his missive actually is when you consider this.

GMS, you should stick to the issues. Nobody is interested in WP internal mechanics as long as they continue to win elections. This kind of random shots from your hips are best reserved for geylang chicks but politically they achieve absolutely nothing and help no one including yourself.
hahaha...well said....this aptly describes scroobye's behaviour to a T...
I have added to your points.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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This is from TNP and my analysis is spot on. The Veterans actually revolt and that is why John Yam and Soma are voted in replacement of Swee Bee, Choon Yong, Hong Boon... etc.


TNP WP Veteran Revolt I.jpg

TNP WP Veteran Revolt II.jpg

Goh Meng Seng


Amazing that a person who had been 8 years out of WP can attempt to proffer such inside scoops and behind the scenes analysis of the characters involved as if he were literally present at the party meeting itself.

Did anyone in this thread stop to think how many percent of what he said is accurate and how below the belt his missive actually is when you consider this.

GMS, you should stick to the issues. Nobody is interested in WP internal mechanics as long as they continue to win elections. This kind of random shots from your hips are best reserved for geylang chicks but politically they achieve absolutely nothing and help no one including yourself.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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This is from TNP and my analysis is spot on. The Veterans actually revolt and that is why John Yam and Soma are voted in replacement of Swee Bee, Choon Yong, Hong Boon... etc.

Goh Meng Seng



The braddell brothel press is not here to do the opposition any favours, and you obviously know that. Why do you think they selectively spun what a few veterans said into a full blown story, and even went to the extent of highlighting that the interview took place at a nearby coffeeshop? You are obviously aware of their tactics and methods, yet chose to post the TNP article without further qualification.

This kind of dissent happens in every party, including and especially the PAP; the only difference is that PAP cadres are held together by socio-economic interests, which you also know are partially funded by taxpayer dollars. So it begs the obvious question why you and TNP have your sights both trained on the same entity, namely the WP, when there is an 800 pound gorilla out there laughing its way to the bank everytime you and TNP do this? And by the way this 800 pound gorilla is raping Singaporeans with its CPF policies and FT policies and that is where things are going to come to a boil, not some fucking internal WP gossip.

You also know very well, even if you don't admit in public, that PLG is a moron and a charlatan, his long record of groundwork notwithstanding. Even if he was not a moron, he would never have appealed to the newer generation of voters, and anyone with two bits of grey matter between his ears would know it would have been wrong to field him in Hougang. A long record of diligent work is not enough in politics. You have to have the right chemistry with the changing slate of voters. All this, you also know.

As for Sanjeev, anyone who thinks he has a shred of dignity or credibility left ought to gouge out their own testicles and feed it to the dogs. His was a case of pure jealousy and egotistical outburst. His missives to the press were calculated to achieve maximum political damage, but fortunately voters are more interested in what the opposition can do to challenge the PAP than the rabid rantings of a sore loser. This, you also know.

Assertiveness, arrogance, haughtiness come with the territory. Politics is not made up of Church ministers and Buddhist monks who must show serenity and utter lack of ego at all times. You know that the game is messy and that internal party politics is often unfair. What matters to the voters is whether the party can deliver and whether it can help shape the national discourse and chart a new path for the country.

Yet you insist of missing the forest for the trees and siding with Braddell Brothel Press.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Generous Asset
One thing TNP got it right, this is the FIRST time WP cadres have OPENLY put their name to their interviews with reporters. Never mind about the story but this breaking of the unwritten rule is significant in itself. This is unlike the previous incident whereby anonymous email being sent where the identity cannot be identified nor verified. The very few words spoken are significant as it also demonstrated the level of ANGER they have.

SPH cannot "make up stories" with NAMES printed if they did not agree to be named in the print.

You have to be very careful of what you are saying here you know. Attacking PLG as "moron" and "a charlatan" after he was sacked reflects the very fact that LTK and SL were actually willing to field such person as candidate in the past THREE GEs? You are actually saying that LTK and SL are so irresponsible to do such thing?

For a party that goes with a slogan "First World Parliament", it is willing to field "moron" and "charlatan"? Please think thrice before you utter such words.

In my view, PLG is anytime better than PEH, in terms of articulation, public exposures and profile etc. The truth is, prior to 2006, when we walked in Hougang, we could only hear people uttering two names, Ah Lau and Ah Poh. Who is Png? He was basically a totally UNKNOWN entity in Hougang until he was fielded as candidate for the by-elections.

Unless they were fielding some extremely bright people, there is really no justification whatsoever to give PLG a pass while putting PEH up as candidate. There is absolutely no value add in doing so, apart from being a loyalist.

Goh Meng Seng













The braddell brothel press is not here to do the opposition any favours, and you obviously know that. Why do you think they selectively spun what a few veterans said into a full blown story, and even went to the extent of highlighting that the interview took place at a nearby coffeeshop? You are obviously aware of their tactics and methods, yet chose to post the TNP article without further qualification.

This kind of dissent happens in every party, including and especially the PAP; the only difference is that PAP cadres are held together by socio-economic interests, which you also know are partially funded by taxpayer dollars. So it begs the obvious question why you and TNP have your sights both trained on the same entity, namely the WP, when there is an 800 pound gorilla out there laughing its way to the bank everytime you and TNP do this? And by the way this 800 pound gorilla is raping Singaporeans with its CPF policies and FT policies and that is where things are going to come to a boil, not some fucking internal WP gossip.

You also know very well, even if you don't admit in public, that PLG is a moron and a charlatan, his long record of groundwork notwithstanding. Even if he was not a moron, he would never have appealed to the newer generation of voters, and anyone with two bits of grey matter between his ears would know it would have been wrong to field him in Hougang. A long record of diligent work is not enough in politics. You have to have the right chemistry with the changing slate of voters. All this, you also know.

As for Sanjeev, anyone who thinks he has a shred of dignity or credibility left ought to gouge out their own testicles and feed it to the dogs. His was a case of pure jealousy and egotistical outburst. His missives to the press were calculated to achieve maximum political damage, but fortunately voters are more interested in what the opposition can do to challenge the PAP than the rabid rantings of a sore loser. This, you also know.

Assertiveness, arrogance, haughtiness come with the territory. Politics is not made up of Church ministers and Buddhist monks who must show serenity and utter lack of ego at all times. You know that the game is messy and that internal party politics is often unfair. What matters to the voters is whether the party can deliver and whether it can help shape the national discourse and chart a new path for the country.

Yet you insist of missing the forest for the trees and siding with Braddell Brothel Press.
 

steffychun

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Loyal
One thing TNP got it right, this is the FIRST time WP cadres have OPENLY put their name to their interviews with reporters. Never mind about the story but this breaking of the unwritten rule is significant in itself. This is unlike the previous incident whereby anonymous email being sent where the identity cannot be identified nor verified. The very few words spoken are significant as it also demonstrated the level of ANGER they have.

SPH cannot "make up stories" with NAMES printed if they did not agree to be named in the print.

You have to be very careful of what you are saying here you know. Attacking PLG as "moron" and "a charlatan" after he was sacked reflects the very fact that LTK and SL were actually willing field such person as candidate in the past THREE GEs? You are actually saying that LTK and SL are so irresponsible to do such thing?

For a party that goes with a slogan "First World Parliament", it is willing to field "moron" and "charlatan"? Please think thrice before you utter such words.

In my view, PLG is anytime better than PEH, in terms of articulation, public exposures and profile etc. The truth is, prior to 2006, when we walked in Hougang, we could only hear people uttering two names, Ah Lau and Ah Poh. Who is Png? He was basically a totally UNKNOWN entity in Hougang until he was fielded as candidate for the by-elections.

Unless they were fielding some extremely bright people, there is really no justification whatsoever to give PLG a pass while putting PEH up as candidate. There is absolutely no value add in doing so, apart from being a loyalist.

Goh Meng Seng

Oh stop quoting David Marshall and go fight for Hamas who hates the Jews.
 

Leongsam

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You agree with such a low class news paper. Show's what you are.

The TNP may not be high brow but when it comes to digging dirt, TNP is the best.

This forum is truly honored to have Mr Goh break the news here first!
 

scroobal

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Loyal
When I first read what you wrote, I was flabbergasted and feared the worst. I thought the party was hijacked and LTK and SL held pretty much hostage. Read Wong Hong Toy, Ling Howe Doong, Poh Lee Guan etc

Then I found out the makeup of the new CEC and it clearly showed progress and reflective of their growing popularity and desire to step up to the next level, Swee Bee, Jane and Frieda, Hong Boon etc should not feel bad at all. They did their part and sacrificed a lot especially the first three. They helped lay down the strong foundation and should be proud when it was in the wilderness and few people bothered to come forward. Completely understand the disappointment but renewal can be harsh yet necessary. Many of us will remember the good work and selfless help given that changed the tide.

As for John and Soma, there is a veterans group and they are looking for representation well.


This is from TNP and my analysis is spot on. The Veterans actually revolt and that is why John Yam and Soma are voted in replacement of Swee Bee, Choon Yong, Hong Boon... etc.

Goh Meng Seng
 

winnipegjets

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One thing TNP got it right, this is the FIRST time WP cadres have OPENLY put their name to their interviews with reporters. Never mind about the story but this breaking of the unwritten rule is significant in itself. This is unlike the previous incident whereby anonymous email being sent where the identity cannot be identified nor verified. The very few words spoken are significant as it also demonstrated the level of ANGER they have.

SPH cannot "make up stories" with NAMES printed if they did not agree to be named in the print.

You have to be very careful of what you are saying here you know. Attacking PLG as "moron" and "a charlatan" after he was sacked reflects the very fact that LTK and SL were actually willing to field such person as candidate in the past THREE GEs? You are actually saying that LTK and SL are so irresponsible to do such thing?

For a party that goes with a slogan "First World Parliament", it is willing to field "moron" and "charlatan"? Please think thrice before you utter such words.

In my view, PLG is anytime better than PEH, in terms of articulation, public exposures and profile etc. The truth is, prior to 2006, when we walked in Hougang, we could only hear people uttering two names, Ah Lau and Ah Poh. Who is Png? He was basically a totally UNKNOWN entity in Hougang until he was fielded as candidate for the by-elections.

Unless they were fielding some extremely bright people, there is really no justification whatsoever to give PLG a pass while putting PEH up as candidate. There is absolutely no value add in doing so, apart from being a loyalist.

Goh Meng Seng

You and the PAP press are in cahoots.

The ruling party has more intrigue and internecine fightings and trouble there impacts sinkees more ...yet, not a whisper from the PAP press or from BG GMS. What lah!
 

scroobal

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Loyal
Honestly, PLG is truly a moron. It does not matter if he contested 5 GEs. Sanjeev should realise that if he was Chinese, nobody would have given him a second look. The PAP GRC setup put the smaller parties in a difficult position when it came to minorities.

PLG has only himself to blame just like Eric and you know who else. Nothing to do with the Party.

One thing TNP got it right, this is the FIRST time WP cadres have OPENLY put their name to their interviews with reporters. Never mind about the story but this breaking of the unwritten rule is significant in itself. This is unlike the previous incident whereby anonymous email being sent where the identity cannot be identified nor verified. The very few words spoken are significant as it also demonstrated the level of ANGER they have.

Goh Meng Seng
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Swee Bee, Jane and Frieda, Hong Boon etc should not feel bad at all. They did their part and sacrificed a lot especially the first three. They helped lay down the strong foundation and should be proud when it was in the wilderness and few people bothered to come forward. .


The three girls were there when the climate of fear in politics was still prevalent. I don't think as a man, Goh Meng Seng can appreciate that it is so much harder for a woman to pluck herself up and get into the thick of the game. Then again empathy was never his strength except where it involved scrutinizing those who had angered him. That's when the female intuition surfaces and you get long, winded, gossipy postings from him. His blog posting reads like a housewife's wet market gossip column.
 

virus

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Loyal
The TNP may not be high brow but when it comes to digging dirt, TNP is the best.

This forum is truly honored to have Mr Goh break the news here first!

By saying they r the best you hv insulted senior presstitutes like the chua sisters.
 

tanwahp

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One thing TNP got it right, this is the FIRST time WP cadres have OPENLY put their name to their interviews with reporters. Never mind about the story but this breaking of the unwritten rule is significant in itself. This is unlike the previous incident whereby anonymous email being sent where the identity cannot be identified nor verified. The very few words spoken are significant as it also demonstrated the level of ANGER they have.

SPH cannot "make up stories" with NAMES printed if they did not agree to be named in the print.

You have to be very careful of what you are saying here you know. Attacking PLG as "moron" and "a charlatan" after he was sacked reflects the very fact that LTK and SL were actually willing to field such person as candidate in the past THREE GEs? You are actually saying that LTK and SL are so irresponsible to do such thing?

For a party that goes with a slogan "First World Parliament", it is willing to field "moron" and "charlatan"? Please think thrice before you utter such words.

In my view, PLG is anytime better than PEH, in terms of articulation, public exposures and profile etc. The truth is, prior to 2006, when we walked in Hougang, we could only hear people uttering two names, Ah Lau and Ah Poh. Who is Png? He was basically a totally UNKNOWN entity in Hougang until he was fielded as candidate for the by-elections.

Unless they were fielding some extremely bright people, there is really no justification whatsoever to give PLG a pass while putting PEH up as candidate. There is absolutely no value add in doing so, apart from being a loyalist.

Goh Meng Seng

Poh Lee Guan having been a WP candidate is at least something. You are right he doesn't deserve some names.

Then again, he (and you) were fielded as candidates until better ones came along, so that means he isn't necessarily superb either. This is natural progression.

Didn't PLG also become known because LTK and WP gave him the chance? This was in 2001 and the 2 were the only candidates. In 2006 Png didn't even contest or join. How to become known?
 

Satyr

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The TNP may not be high brow but when it comes to digging dirt, TNP is the best.

This forum is truly honored to have Mr Goh break the news here first!

Seems the TNP found the angle they needed from GMS.
The WP looks to the future not the past. Otherwise someone like Eric Tan would have been in parliament as NCMP. Deserving though he was , it did not fit with ambitions of the party. Do not underestimate LTK.
 
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