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An open letter to fellow Christians

Dragonhead

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...All sinners are condemned including homosexuals.....They want to adopt children too and trying to brainwash them to make them accept gay lifestyles. Gay is more of a psychological problem than anything else. They need help instead of support.

Look at this issue in the proper perspective. When the parents of the same sex adopt a child, does it amount to incest when one of them or both of them decide to screw that child to make him become a gay too when he grows up?

What happens when such same-sex families become predominant in sinkapoo? See the long term effects of homosexuality affecting families and nation.
 

yellowarse

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Look at this issue in the proper perspective. When the parents of the same sex adopt a child, does it amount to incest when one of them or both of them decide to screw that child to make him become a gay too when he grows up?

What talking you? When a father screws his daughter (you read about it all the time in the papers) to make her heterosexual, does it amount to incest?

See the long term effects of heterosexuality affecting families and nation.
 

yellowarse

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ngsek kah ch$ng is already in jb - jalan besar. :p

My favourite Scissors Curry Rice. :biggrin:

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blackmondy

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The Bible is an ang moh religion. People who are not sure of its validity should not anyhow go and believe it. They need to think about life's meaning for themselves and not simply let someone else think for them.

It is not an ang moh religion but one from Middle East. Ang moh country send more missionaries to spread the word that's why it is perceived as ang moh religion.

Buddhism is not a Chinese religion but originated from India but you don't see ah-nehs spreading Buddhism.
 

Dragonhead

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...What goes on between 2 consensual adults and which does not harm others is fine by me.

If two consensual adults practise gay sex in private, there is nothing a Govt can do about it even there is a law criminalising gay sex. No complaint, NOD.

These gays stir up controversy when they preach their homosexuality in public to demand that it be made an acceptable part of main stream life. Homosexuality is an abhorrence to many people, whether Christians or non-Christians.
 

yellowarse

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If two consensual adults practise gay sex in private, there is nothing a Govt can do about it even there is a law criminalising gay sex. No complaint, NOD.

Either you have a law and you enforce it, or you remove the law. Otherwise it makes a mockery of the law.

Having S377A and not enforcing it is like telling gays you're all criminals but govt give chance don't arrest you now ... but one day can still suka suka arrest you if you don't vote PAP ...

I think the gays in Singapore simply don't want to be treated as criminals and seen as criminals, even if no action is taken. They're not interested in converting straight ppl to gay. Who in his sane mind chooses to be gay in the first place, given so much societal hatred and discrimination against gays?
 
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syed putra

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Men who are gay find scent of a woman totally repulsive. So how to bonk like this? On the other hand, there is no point bonking another man as it is not productive. Masturbate maybe better and more hygienic.
 

dr.wailing

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.....By the way, the marriage bed is undefiled. If a husband fucks his wife in the ass, is it a sin?

If the husband climaxes and ejaculates into his wife's ass, then YES, according to the teaching of the (Roman) Catholic Church.

Joseph Ratzinger, the present Pope-Emeritus Benedict XVI, was in charge of the "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith" (in layman's terms, his department deals with any heretical teachings.) when he issued the Catholic Church's teaching on permissible sexual acts between the husband (that is, genetically male) and the wife (genetically female):

All sexual acts by a legally married couple are permitted as long as the husband ejaculates into his wife's vagina at the point of his orgasm. If the husband ejaculates elsewhere other than in his wife's vagina, he's guilty of the sin of Onanism. He can't receive Holy Communion (Holy Eucharist) without first repenting of this sin. According to the moral teaching of the Catholic Church, the sin of Onanism is the same as the one in which artificial contraception is used.

Among Protestants, the answer is ambiguous as they lack a common central authority on matters of faith and morals.

It's worthy of note that Eastern Orthodoxy is in agreement with the teaching of the Bishop of Rome.
 

SgParent

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Either you have a law and you enforce it, or you remove the law. Otherwise it makes a mockery of the law.

Having S377A and not enforcing it is like telling gays you're all criminals but govt give chance don't arrest you now ... but one day can still suka suka arrest you if you don't vote PAP ...
stop embarrassing yourself.

if you want to see if the law will be enforced, try sending a video to the police of yourself doing the "pink" way.
 

SgParent

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.........What goes on between 2 consensual adults and which does not harm others is fine by me.
i like your way of thinking..... no moral, no rule...... man can do it with another married woman who is not his wife, woman doing it with her biological son.

btw why only limit to adults? where to draw the line? 16yo? 21yo? what if we are talking about some1 as naive as you? 55yo then considered adult?
 

yellowarse

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i like your way of thinking..... no moral, no rule...... man can do it with another married woman who is not his wife, woman doing it with her biological son.

Man doing it with another married woman = Adultery. Is adultery a crime in Singapore? No.

Woman doing it with her biological son = Incest. Is incest a crime in Singapore? Yes.

What's your point, dickhead?

btw why only limit to adults? where to draw the line? 16yo? 21yo? what if we are talking about some1 as naive as you? 55yo then considered adult?

Age of consent is 18 in Singapore. That should apply to straight as well as gay couples. Whoever said about wanting to change age of consent?

Typical Sinkee idiot who can't even argue intelligently. The 60.1% who enjoy being shafted in the arse by PAP but won't leave gay ppl alone.
 

Seee3

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society norms are subjective and change with time. slavery was the norm 100s years of ago, but no more. suffragettes were the pariahs of the 19th century as they fought for the right of women to vote. prohibition in the USA in the 19th century saw the outright ban of alcohol.

it is a matter of time before gays are more widely accepted in society.
Before we discuss about changes to society norms, let's take a closer look at why such norms were formulated.

Man is the only living creature to break away from the law of the jungle (where it's survival of the fittest in physical term). Society norms were none other than practices that have been identified and accepted by the majority of mankind over the years, for the protection of the weak and the betterment of life. Some norms become rules and laws which are punishable if broken.

These norms evolved, but the changes were centered mainly for greater equality. I believe it is with this in mind that gays are fighting for acceptance now.

However, there is a distinct difference between fighting for acceptance and PROMOTING gay way of life. To the gay community, a book for children on gay family is simply to gain greater acceptance by exposing them to it since young. They may not realise that in a way, it is promoting gay life style. Some felt that how can gay life style be promoted if only those born gay will embrace it? The problem is, gay can be cultivated. Innocent young boys, if exposed to homosexuality will become 'gay'!

Next, I was pondering over whether is there really any ills in having more gay family units. If the gays confine their partner strictly to his "spouse", there isn't really a big issue. In fact, it may be good for countries with problem of overpopulation to promote gay family units so as to reduce population growth. The only difference from a normal family is the missing children and family linkage for the future generation. How that will impact the society is debatable. Children is usually the bond that holds a family unit together. Without this link, there may be a greater tendency for gay partners to stray and have multiple sex partners that give rise to problem of disease transmission.

I view the current issue not so much with the acceptance of gay marriage but more with the agenda to cultivate more gays. Our civilised world is not controlled by man of greatest physical strength but by man with the wit to gain acceptance from the majority. To gain control, a leader need to enlarge his pool of followers. Like it or not, there will be gays who aspire to take over control just like the other religious or political leaders. It is this aspect that that I am wary, because gay can be cultivated and it is not nature's way of life.
 

yellowarse

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However, there is a distinct difference between fighting for acceptance and PROMOTING gay way of life. To the gay community, a book for children on gay family is simply to gain greater acceptance by exposing them to it since young. They may not realise that in a way, it is promoting gay life style. Some felt that how can gay life style be promoted if only those born gay will embrace it? The problem is, gay can be cultivated. Innocent young boys, if exposed to homosexuality will become 'gay'!

Research has shown that straightness or gayness is hardwired into the foetal brain by hormonal changes in the womb. It is very difficult, if not impossible to make a gay guy straight or a straight guy gay by 'cultivation'. If that were the case, since about 6% of the population is gay, then being exposed to the straight culture/propaganda/cultivation of the 94% straight ppl would have converted the 6% gay ppl a long time ago! Why have gay people continued to exist over thousands of years as a small minority in all cultures and nations?

If 94% hetero can't convert 6% homo, what chance do you think the 6% homo have of converting the 94% hetero? The gays should be more fearful of straight people cultivating them than vice versa!

I've known guys and girls (friends) who have had some homosexual experimentation in their teen years, but they eventually straightened out. I've also know gay friends who tried dating girls and even getting engaged, but eventually outed themselves as gay.

Next, I was pondering over whether is there really any ills in having more gay family units. If the gays confine their partner strictly to his "spouse", there isn't really a big issue. In fact, it may be good for countries with problem of overpopulation to promote gay family units so as to reduce population growth. The only difference from a normal family is the missing children and family linkage for the future generation. How that will impact the society is debatable. Children is usually the bond that holds a family unit together. Without this link, there may be a greater tendency for gay partners to stray and have multiple sex partners that give rise to problem of disease transmission.

By your logic, heterosexual couples without children (by choice or otherwise) are also a problem which will impact on society and lead to disease transmission? Should we then criminalize childless heterosexual couples?
 

tanwahp

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Before we discuss about changes to society norms, let's take a closer look at why such norms were formulated.

Society norms often don't churn out consistent outcomes for a simple reason - society is made up of many people. Hence, it differs from the individual to a group to different countries.

During uni years, we had close a friend who thinks it is alright for someone to marry his sister. He had a pretty sister - we all found her pretty (plus nice figure) even he who rightfully shouldn't since he grew up with her. In fact he seemed fond of her though he never said it.

One fine afternoon, he drooled over his story about how his sister lifted up her blouse too high and wasn't wearing a bra. On another afternoon his story was more shocking to some of our clique. Last night he laid beside her and stroke her breasts. She was initially shy but soon enjoyed it. One friend became so turned off and the friendship soon soured (for other reasons, not for the sister).

Yellowarse might say, nothing wrong. Being a liberal, I find that unacceptable but not disgusting. But most people may. Bottom line, no point arguing. Each person stick to their own opinion and everyone wait to see final outcome.
 

Narong Wongwan

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The true Christians should wage war on false christians like CHC.
March to CHC and raze their church to the ground....then lynch those CHC zombies and finally burn that witch Sun Whore at the stake.
 
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