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Shanmugam bay song accused Opposition supporters of defacing and hijacking wall

samstom

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We had put up an Expression Wall early this year, at the Amphitheatre in Chong Pang City. It was hugely successful, with many people expressing their views. We put up another wall last week. This time we were hoping to hear ideas, views, thoughts on how we can develop quality wellness and care centres for our elderly.

The response from the residents has been overwhelming. We kept the wall for extra days, and had to add more writing space, using sheets – just like the last time. It has also been fun for residents to express themselves creatively as well as reading the views and drawings of others.

We have captured every comment on the wall, including taking pictures and videos of them. This is important because some of the residents have written over the comments of others. There were some rude comments and graffiti as well. Some were drawn by little kids. This is to be expected. There were also negative comments and complaints by residents on policies which they want changed – these were genuine expression of views. People are entitled to disagree with government policies and give their views. This is what this expression wall is all about.

Unfortunately, there was also some unconstructive element to it. Some Opposition supporters (clearly identifiable because of what they did) decided to co-ordinate and hijack the Wall – defacing the Wall, writing over other comments, scratching out existing comments, and standing by the Wall and asking people to write down negative comments, calling for the death of one of our founding fathers. They also took screen shots of the negative comments which they themselves wrote, presumably so that they can post them on line and pretend that that these were comments by residents. (We noted they quickly took pictures of such negative comments and posted them on some websites). One such writer scribbled across a section of the wall to cancel out dozens of good suggestions, and wrote very prominently the name of the political party he supported. We did not stop them. People can judge for themselves what such a behaviour means. He and some others believe that freedom of expression means that only their views should be seen, and so he needed to scratch out the positive comments.( As I have said earlier some of the comments which were critical of policies were honest expression of views by residents. The unconstructive behaviour was exhibited by only a few, though they attempted to scratch out large parts). :biggrin:

Despite all this co-ordinated effort, it is heartening that that the majority – about 90 per cent of the comments – were positive or constructive. We will review the comments in greater detail and do an update later. We were able to tabulate because we kept track of all the comments, including those which were scratched out, written over, so we know what all the comments were. We will send all the feedback to the relevant agencies.

https://www.facebook.com/k.shanmugam.page/posts/727858453927354

Jin pissed with real feedback from the yishun residents here. :biggrin:
http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/07/05/nee-soon-residents-give-real-ground-feedback/
 

mojito

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Leongsam should unban escher before he go deface some walls inviting lky to eat candles and joss sticks.
 

halsey02

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This is 2014, we still have this kind of politician's around & SINgaporeans are still voting for this kind?? They only want to hear the good things, why doesn't shame my gun, says, we will consider those who are not in agreement withs us, who had written on the wall, we will read their grouses too.

Anybody who writes bad things...must be opposition members...anyone, "yao wu so" !...is "your father"..kind of analogy!...amazing, we have such numbskull minister & voters...
 

makapaaa

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FAP Cannot Accept Hard Truth! Negative Feedback = Opposition Supporter!

[h=1]SHANMUGAM: IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS 'HIJACKED' OUR FEEDBACK WALL[/h]
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Shanmugam posted a status on facebook talking about the recent feedback wall which was put up by grassroots in Chong Pang to collect suggestions and ideas on elderly care centre facilities. He expressed that he was disappointed with opposition supporters who had 'defaced' the wall.

(See also: Residents leave honest feedback on feedback wall in Yishun)

Here is Shanmugam's facebook status in full:

We had put up an Expression Wall early this year, at the Amphitheatre in Chong Pang City. It was hugely successful, with many people expressing their views. We put up another wall last week. This time we were hoping to hear ideas, views, thoughts on how we can develop quality wellness and care centres for our elderly.

The response from the residents has been overwhelming. We kept the wall for extra days, and had to add more writing space, using sheets – just like the last time. It has also been fun for residents to express themselves creatively as well as reading the views and drawings of others.

We have captured every comment on the wall, including taking pictures and videos of them. This is important because some of the residents have written over the comments of others. There were some rude comments and graffiti as well. Some were drawn by little kids. This is to be expected. There were also negative comments and complaints by residents on policies which they want changed – these were genuine expression of views. People are entitled to disagree with government policies and give their views. This is what this expression wall is all about.

Unfortunately, there was also some unconstructive element to it. Some Opposition supporters (clearly identifiable because of what they did) decided to co-ordinate and hijack the Wall – defacing the Wall, writing over other comments, scratching out existing comments, and standing by the Wall and asking people to write down negative comments, calling for the death of one of our founding fathers. They also took screen shots of the negative comments which they themselves wrote, presumably so that they can post them on line and pretend that that these were comments by residents. (We noted they quickly took pictures of such negative comments and posted them on some websites). One such writer scribbled across a section of the wall to cancel out dozens of good suggestions, and wrote very prominently the name of the political party he supported. We did not stop them. People can judge for themselves what such a behaviour means. He and some others believe that freedom of expression means that only their views should be seen, and so he needed to scratch out the positive comments.( As I have said earlier some of the comments which were critical of policies were honest expression of views by residents. The unconstructive behaviour was exhibited by only a few, though they attempted to scratch out large parts).

=> So how quickly did the FAP PLPs removed such feedback?

Despite all this co-ordinated effort, it is heartening that that the majority – about 90 per cent of the comments – were positive or constructive. We will review the comments in greater detail and do an update later. We were able to tabulate because we kept track of all the comments, including those which were scratched out, written over, so we know what all the comments were. We will send all the feedback to the relevant agencies.
https://www.facebook.com/k.shanmugam.page/posts/727858453927354
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winnipegjets

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Re: FAP Cannot Accept Hard Truth! Negative Feedback = Opposition Supporter!

Shamu has a choice ....accept the feedbacks from sinkees or treat those feedbacks as attacks from the opposition.
 

Mortdredd

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Re: FAP Cannot Accept Hard Truth! Negative Feedback = Opposition Supporter!

Negative feedbacks meaning something out there is very wrong already, why don't they just admit it, face it and deal with it.
 

krafty

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that's because we are not as fake as pappies supporters, we vent our discontent truthfully and never hide our feelings about the state of affair. we are also not as high handed as pappies who can turn black into white.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Re: FAP Cannot Accept Hard Truth! Negative Feedback = Opposition Supporter!

Obviously when you do a fucked up job and it has been for many years already mind you people are going to be pissed off. If the nigger sham doesn't want to read all of this why set up a feedback wall. As if any useful suggestion could be had from the wall and as if the pappies would follow them
 

Tuayapeh

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Re: FAP Cannot Accept Hard Truth! Negative Feedback = Opposition Supporter!

Obviously when you do a fucked up job and it has been for many years already mind you people are going to be pissed off. If the nigger sham doesn't want to read all of this why set up a feedback wall. As if any useful suggestion could be had from the wall and as if the pappies would follow them




Hear oily the good things..... way too go PAP...

thats the way to rule.....
 

bakkuttay

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PAPpigs should put up more boards in their popular constituents and gauge discontent and frustrations.
why not blame ex-wife???????
 

winnipegjets

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PAPpigs should put up more boards in their popular constituents and gauge discontent and frustrations.
why not blame ex-wife???????

They can't handle the truth. They still think that they are god's gift to sinkees. Sinkees should just listen and follow instead of questioning and challenging. That mindset of the PAP has not changed since Old Fart made it a party policy.
 

Leongsam

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The oppo IB behave like thugs and vandals. I spend a lot of time having to tidy up this forum because they do their best to deface sammyboy.com too.
 

Poomer

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Once again, all forms of criticism are considered noise. You know things are pretty bad when sections of our society wants our founding fathers dead for the legacy that they have gifted us.
 

3_M

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Who knows those messages and wordings might be the work of PAP supporters trying to cast a bad light on oppositions?

There is a difference between circumstantial evidence and concrete proof. As law minister, PAP Thambi should know better than anyone never to base his accusation on circumstantial evidence .
 

johnny333

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in the next GE I think that the PAP are not going to get the support of the 60%. They can of course try to fix the opposition but the main problem is with the PAP. People will always vote for their self interests & who in their right mind would vote to give up their CPF or to have foreigners take their jobs:confused:


The unhappiness is out there. If the PAP are going to ignore the signs so be it. There are many who can do a better job.
 
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