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No, I wasn't abused by priest, says Vincent

yellowarse

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This shows how dangerous gays can be; esp when in the position of power and authority. Priest or no priest.

Abuse of power and authority happens to people in positions of power and authority, straight or gay. Have you heard of the Hollywood casting couch? Clinton and Lewinsky? Lim Boon Heng and his assistant?

It is not the fault of the church that some priests were gay or whatever; i mean how could they tell. There is no gay test when they entered priesthood.

Agree. But the fault lies with the persistent cover-ups over the decades by the Catholic Church worldwide whenever reports of paedophilia were filed in Europe and America. Some of these involved senior members of the clergy. To my knowledge, many were not prosecuted or defrocked, but simply transferred out from their parish and reassigned to a less conspicuous position.


Maybe gays are attracted to this calling since they are surrounded by altar boys and monks!

Maybe. My theory is that when you're gay in a conservative, homophobic society, it would be more socially acceptable to become a priest or monk than to remain a bachelor your life and have people question your sexuality till you die. Moreover, some of these people may actually have believed that celibate religion may help them overcome the temptation of homosexuality (remember, there's a lot of guilt attached to 'sin' of homosexuality in deeply religious societies in Southern Europe and South America).

It is precisely the numerous cases of sexual abuse that the church has to speak out against this abnormal behaviour.

And it is precisely because the church has not done anything substantial against paedophilic activity that they're viewed as hypocritical and only paying lip service to their anti-gay stance.
 
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Leongsam

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There is no gay test when they entered priesthood.
Maybe gays are attracted to this calling since they are surrounded by altar boys and monks!

A test is available now. The Catholic church should implement it immediately on all new and existing clergy. It's called a Penile Plethysmograph.

The political parties should include this test for potential candidates too. We cannot have gays infiltrating the ranks. It would destroy the country.
 

yellowarse

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I'm not talking about crotch grabbing. I'm saying that people who indulge in sodomy have no integrity.

Interesting. What does the choice of orifice for penetration have anything to do with integrity? :rolleyes:

So do vaginal fuckers have more integrity than fellaters? And fellaters more than sodomizers? What about female vs male sodomizers? Any difference?
 

Leongsam

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Interesting. What does the choice of orifice for penetration have anything to do with integrity? :rolleyes:

So do vaginal fuckers have more integrity than fellaters? And fellaters more than sodomizers? What about female vs male sodomizers? Any difference?

How people have sex is a measure of their integrity.

It ranges from missionary position straight sex only (most integrity) to the most perverse ie gay anal sex (least integrity).

In between would be fellatio, cunnilingus, bondage, anal sex between opposite sexes etc.
 

PTADER

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"It was an attempt without any conclusion and therefore I consider myself neither to have been abused nor damaged subsequently."

Weasel words from a cowardly, dishonest, chickenshit faggot. Takes a stab, tries to inflict a wound but scampers away like a terrified dog with its tail tucked firmly between its legs when he realises that he is unable to substantiate his lies.

This Singhalese faggot is a coward. He knows which religion to criticize. If he had criticize the Muslim faith for Islam's position on homosexuality with the same stridency which he did for the Catholic church, he would probably have a fatwa on his head and the possibility of getting his throat cut for insulting the Islamic faith.

My advice to this faggot: Don't test limits. Don't push your luck.
 

PTADER

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To the faggot or faggot lover who zapped me 100 points for my views on faggotism and for using the term "faggots" to describe, well, faggots, this is my message to you.

I don't care two hoots about points. What I do want is to post what I want to post without any hindrance or censorhip because of this point system. If the host so decides that what I post or how I post is not in accordance to the tenor of this forum, he and he alone as owner of this forum, should call me out or shut me out.

This forum, as I have known it since the 90s, has always been a rough and tumble, no-holds barred forum. If anyone and everyone takes offense at anything or everything said or how they are said, this forum would come to a grinding halt or it would be like the many half-fucked faggoty forums out there. All prim, proper and polite but with nothing substantive and with collective IQs bordering from mild retardation to below average.

Unless the forum's tenor has changed and Sam wants the culture to be faggotified with the clink of wine glasses each time something is said, do stop this limpwrist zappings.

I can take as much as you can give so long as it is not in my arse as I am not a faggot.

Likewise, be prepared to take as much as I will give. I promise when I give, it won't be in the arse as I am not a faggot. So you will be safe if you are normal. Or disappointed, if you are a faggot.
 

kryonlight

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Don't confuse 'morally equipped' with criminal allegation.

VW brought up the incident not to point to his 'molest' or 'abuse' or 'damaged'. He did it to show that if the Church couldn't or wouldn't even police its own priests from homosexual-paedophilic activity, it has lost its moral standing to make a stand on the LGBT issue. And it's a world-wide phenomenon involving the Catholic Church and the highest levels of clergy, including some prominent cardinals and bishops.

At no point did he make any allegation of specific sexual abuse or criminal activity (against himself) by any priest. 'Attempt to touch' and 'looking at porno magazines' don't qualify as sexual abuse. What's there to investigate?

Very well said. I have upped your points.

The Catholic Church is morally bankrupt. What it is requesting of VW now is a below the belt attempt to hide its bankruptcy.
 

OverTheCounter

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To the faggot or faggot lover who zapped me 100 points for my views on faggotism and for using the term "faggots" to describe, well, faggots, this is my message to you.

I don't care two hoots about points. What I do want is to post what I want to post without any hindrance or censorhip because of this point system. If the host so decides that what I post or how I post is not in accordance to the tenor of this forum, he and he alone as owner of this forum, should call me out or shut me out.

This forum, as I have known it since the 90s, has always been a rough and tumble, no-holds barred forum. If anyone and everyone takes offense at anything or everything said or how they are said, this forum would come to a grinding halt or it would be like the many half-fucked faggoty forums out there. All prim, proper and polite but with nothing substantive and with collective IQs bordering from mild retardation to below average.

Unless the forum's tenor has changed and Sam wants the culture to be faggotified with the clink of wine glasses each time something is said, do stop this limpwrist zappings.

I can take as much as you can give so long as it is not in my arse as I am not a faggot.

Likewise, be prepared to take as much as I will give. I promise when I give, it won't be in the arse as I am not a faggot. So you will be safe if you are normal. Or disappointed, if you are a faggot.



I may not like what you say at all but I have upped your points to cancel off those who zapped you, which is most likely the work of kopiuncle, theblackhole, ilovesingapore and lionheart

OTC Squadron support freedom of speech including speech that is nonsensical and fucked up like all your bigoted postings on the gays
 

scroobal

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VW did not claim to be molested but chose to highlight an incident of sexual misconduct. The Church asked him to lodge a report but conveniently used the term "molest" to shape his response. I think he made an error of judgement. It has cost him dearly and will continue to cost him dearly.

After the comment about the church in Facebook, there is no coming back at least for now.

Now the Church is no angel.

The point about a few black sheep within the Catholic Church raised by some no longer holds water. The Church has been an active party in covering up, failing to contain and address this deviant conduct over many decades. Where it had be raised they have merely moved the priest in question from one location to another. Even when the numbers of victims exceeded the tens, the same approach is used. No consideration to the damage dome to the young and vulnerable, the very people they are supposed to help.

The Church has repeatedly refuse to act on its own accord until political and public pressure begins to bear on it. Even till today that has been their approach - ignore first, then followed by a cover-up and then a series of protracted measures to let time to wear the victim and their supporters down.
 

eatshitndie

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I may not like what you say at all but I have upped your points to cancel off those who zapped you, which is most likely the work of kopiuncle, theblackhole, ilovesingapore and lionheart

in preservation of a no-holds barred atmosphere on sbf, i've also awarded him additional points. :wink:
 

steffychun

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Next he will say he was abused by an Imman. They retract. Then abused by a temple caretaker or whatever. Then retract. Finally, abused by CSJ..
 

Leongsam

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Unless the forum's tenor has changed and Sam wants the culture to be faggotified with the clink of wine glasses each time something is said, do stop this limpwrist zappings.

I love no holds barred so I'm sure someone will add to your points. :smile:
 

@rmadill0

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Actually VW is right lah. There is no abuse when he enjoyed it. He must thank the priest for making his "awakening".
 

enterprise2

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VW did not claim to be molested but chose to highlight an incident of sexual misconduct. The Church asked him to lodge a report but conveniently used the term "molest" to shape his response. I think he made an error of judgement. It has cost him dearly and will continue to cost him dearly.

After the comment about the church in Facebook, there is no coming back at least for now.

Now the Church is no angel.

The point about a few black sheep within the Catholic Church raised by some no longer holds water. The Church has been an active party in covering up, failing to contain and address this deviant conduct over many decades. Where it had be raised they have merely moved the priest in question from one location to another. Even when the numbers of victims exceeded the tens, the same approach is used. No consideration to the damage dome to the young and vulnerable, the very people they are supposed to help.

The Church has repeatedly refuse to act on its own accord until political and public pressure begins to bear on it. Even till today that has been their approach - ignore first, then followed by a cover-up and then a series of protracted measures to let time to wear the victim and their supporters down.

Yes, Vincent has a lot of creditability on this. Not sure if he can recover.

As to the Church being no angel.....its the same with all institutions. PAP also 'never admits its mistakes and quietly move people out to other ...less sensitive areas like GLCs..." Other govenments quietly move people out ...to their embassies in far flung countries to escape the scandals...etc. So all the same ..lah!!
 
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