Saw this product recogen and understand its meant for the joint. Not sure how effective it is. Has any forummers tried it before and is it useful or effective? What about other products that is also good for the joint, especially at the knee area.
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Joint pain and recogen
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Haven't used it but the active ingredient is Collagen Hydrolysate. I checked at iHerb & found a product with Collagen Hydrolysate from Great Lakes Gelatin Co. Take a look here
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From personal experience, CissusRX helps with joint pain (especially if it's an acute injury, rather than a chronic degenerative condition), and accelerates healing.
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Just my humble opinion no offense intended. Maybe you should get your knee looked at before goin for these stuff. Not that these supplements are no good, but you may be shocked to find out something you never knew. I went thru this myself not too long ago. Severe back pain after my gout episode 4yrs ago. Went on many supplements then for bones joints etc then my back pain started & getting worse & worse. One day cannot heck, went to see GP, referred for Xray, then referred to Mt E to specialist, then referred for MRI & the MRI shows it all. I have a slip disc & another is degenerating. Surgery is not necessary for it has not reached the stage where I cannot live a normal life but if I wanna blow 60k away, they'll be more than happy to cut me up. Now going thru physio therapy & it has helped lots. I do not have those pains or what not anymore & I'm still goin thru physio & still eating those supplements. Hope this helps
Was that your lumbar number x & lumbar number y is degenerating or impacted right, something like that? what can they do with the operation? I do not have this, but I know an elderly person who has....the doctor say...too old & risky to operate!
Yes, understand where you are coming from.
Have seen the GP and was prescribe some supplement (Cartiflex was the name). It seems to be working, normally after going for brisk walking, the pain is not so obvious. Interestingly, the pain is at the side of the knee area and the doctor says that is it due to the soft matter (not sure what is that) thinning out. Have gone for X Ray, though could not tell much.
Not sure if going for MRI will help.
The thought is if the collagen in the product will help to alleviate the problem.
http://www.nci-health.com/UploadedImg/how-recogen-gold-works-image.jpg
Aging has a lot to do with it. Last time I can do 500 continuous squats. Now I can only do 480.:(
The problem in Spore is that they follow the American system. Each time you visit a doctor you will end up paying $$$ from your visiting the GP, Xrays, Specialist, MRI,... If you had proceeded with the procedure, there would be other costs adding even more to the $$$. It's like a gang rape
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L4/L5 S1 slip disc and degenerative. The operation is known as fusion. They will remove the damaged disc/discs and replace it with artificial discs at the same time, joining L4/L5 together with metal bars and screws to let it operate as one piece. Thus the affected disc will not be an issue after the op. Degenerative disc is normal for all aging folks, only how fast how severe. Such cases, physio can help. My mom has also just started going after I brought her there. She is so active now & says it saved her life. She's 70+ fyi
You'll be surprised to see what MRI can show that the XRAY doesn't. Xray only show bone. MRI can see tendon and even cartilage & it ain't cheap if privately done. My spinal MRI already 1k+. My mom only foot also 1k+
The difference is, MRI shows what the traditional Xray can't see. Ultrasound is also an option. Bro, may I suggest you look up this fella http://www.ortho-intl.com/index.php/dr-patrick-goh since you're affected area is the knee. My mom is the foot, went there too. He has ultrasound in his clinic but if need to see more, like my mom, he referred her for MRI at Novena Medical Center
No doubt, these supplements are meant for that, but my point is, is that really your problem. If not, then you are just letting an injury get worse while thinking you've found a cure for it. Not worth the risk especially when we're all +40s
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The problem in Spore is that they follow the American system. Each time you visit a doctor you will end up paying $$$ from your visiting the GP, Xrays, Specialist, MRI,... If you had proceeded with the procedure, there would be other costs adding even more to the $$$. It's like a gang rape
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Well, that's life here. Spending, if it works, is worth it I feel.
Ok, sorry folks, maybe I should illustrate what I've gone through more clearly so those who need to know, will know the important message that I'm trying to drive across. I apologise if I'm being loh soh but I hope if what I write can help even i fellow, I have done a good deed.
At 36, I had gout. Was a terrible painful experience but guess it was a price to pay due to my "HAPPENING" lifestyle. An old acquaintance of mine, who happen to also be my family GP, warned me that when one kenna gout, it's a sign that the body cannot cope with the abuse & be prepared for stuff to start breaking down. The GP didn't want to prescribe me the anti uric acid pills as it will damage my organ through prolonged consumption. So, no choice, have to live a healthy non HAPPENING lifestyle. It was during this period, I started to take natural supplements avail at the pharmacies namely to boost up my joints as I felt that after my gout episode, my joints, hands, fingers, feet etc all ache very easily:
After taking these from then till now, my joints don't ache as often or easily anymore. So, to me, it was a step in the right direction. For those who may be curious, yes, I still take them today! My wife, only 3yrs younger than me, had fingers which was kind of slanted already but she started to take too after I told her we're not getting younger and believe it or not, even to her shocking surprise, her fingers are all straight & normal. Initial sign of arthritis? I don't know & can't comment, but one thing for sure is, she too is taking it religiously now, just like me.
Since I was young, monthly without fail, I will visit the GP for flu or sore throat till I was introduced to this by a very close friend. Believe it or not, it's been 6yrs since I had a sore throat or flu!
What I do is take one every morning and should I feel like I'm going to get a sore throat or flu like aches, I'll just take another before I go to bed & it does the trick. My wife takes 2 daily for if she takes 1, she'll still get the flu but with 2, problem solved
At 36, I had gout. Was a terrible painful experience but guess it was a price to pay due to my "HAPPENING" lifestyle. An old acquaintance of mine, who happen to also be my family GP, warned me that when one kenna gout, it's a sign that the body cannot cope with the abuse & be prepared for stuff to start breaking down. The GP didn't want to prescribe me the anti uric acid pills as it will damage my organ through prolonged consumption. So, no choice, have to live a healthy non HAPPENING lifestyle. It was during this period, I started to take natural supplements avail at the pharmacies namely to boost up my joints as I felt that after my gout episode, my joints, hands, fingers, feet etc all ache very easily:
After taking these from then till now, my joints don't ache as often or easily anymore. So, to me, it was a step in the right direction. For those who may be curious, yes, I still take them today! My wife, only 3yrs younger than me, had fingers which was kind of slanted already but she started to take too after I told her we're not getting younger and believe it or not, even to her shocking surprise, her fingers are all straight & normal. Initial sign of arthritis? I don't know & can't comment, but one thing for sure is, she too is taking it religiously now, just like me.
Since I was young, monthly without fail, I will visit the GP for flu or sore throat till I was introduced to this by a very close friend. Believe it or not, it's been 6yrs since I had a sore throat or flu!
What I do is take one every morning and should I feel like I'm going to get a sore throat or flu like aches, I'll just take another before I go to bed & it does the trick. My wife takes 2 daily for if she takes 1, she'll still get the flu but with 2, problem solved
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dl this
https://www.nitroflare.com/view/A111B370EE02832/2014-07-05-37-3540405119.zip
Norbert Boos, Max Aebi - Spinal Disorders: Fundamentals of Diagnosis and Treatment
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https://www.nitroflare.com/view/A111B370EE02832/2014-07-05-37-3540405119.zip
Norbert Boos, Max Aebi - Spinal Disorders: Fundamentals of Diagnosis and Treatment
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So about 2 years ago, my back started to have spasms. Spasms till it was scary. Like if I am standing up, my upper & lower body disconnects & I'll just fall down with severe pain to my back. Or if I'm sitting down trying to stand up, I'll fall back due to the back spasms. These attacks were rare, but frequency became more & more through the years. I thought to myself if I missed out on some supplements? I even started to take those collagen supplements too. But the pain just got worse and worse & even more common in frequency of attacks per day till I dare not even drive anymore. My wife was then my chauffeur. Why was this happening to me?
The last straw came earlier this year, when I woke up, I nearly fainted. My body was an arc! Yes, an arc. Head and toes in a straight line but body was curved! Time to visit the GP as it was obvious the supplements weren't working.
Told my GP who was obviously concerned so referred me straight for xray at Paragon. Few days later, was called to go to the clinic to review the xray.
The xray only showed (examples taken from google)
From there, my GP said, looks like it's degenerative. Better go see specialist. Referred me to one at Mt E & so I went.
During the waiting time for my first appointment with the specialist, I did a lot of research online on disc degeneration & learnt quite a lot about it till my first appt.
The specialist asked me to go do a MRI to be sure as the xrays don't seems to justify the pain or spasms I am getting.
It was during the reveal of the MRI that it revealed (taken from google again)
This was & never possible to be seen with the xray. Plain as day, I saw my slip disc on mri. If I relied on xray, I would never know I had a slip disc.
So as mentioned earlier, I was given the option to be cut up but I was given a second option which was physio therapy which I must say, have done me wonders. I can do things I would never have dare done in the past, though I am still under going physio, I can drive now! Ya no big deal right? To me, it was a second chance in being normal again and I am glad to report, I am standing straight & tall again!
The last straw came earlier this year, when I woke up, I nearly fainted. My body was an arc! Yes, an arc. Head and toes in a straight line but body was curved! Time to visit the GP as it was obvious the supplements weren't working.
Told my GP who was obviously concerned so referred me straight for xray at Paragon. Few days later, was called to go to the clinic to review the xray.
The xray only showed (examples taken from google)
From there, my GP said, looks like it's degenerative. Better go see specialist. Referred me to one at Mt E & so I went.
During the waiting time for my first appointment with the specialist, I did a lot of research online on disc degeneration & learnt quite a lot about it till my first appt.
The specialist asked me to go do a MRI to be sure as the xrays don't seems to justify the pain or spasms I am getting.
It was during the reveal of the MRI that it revealed (taken from google again)
This was & never possible to be seen with the xray. Plain as day, I saw my slip disc on mri. If I relied on xray, I would never know I had a slip disc.
So as mentioned earlier, I was given the option to be cut up but I was given a second option which was physio therapy which I must say, have done me wonders. I can do things I would never have dare done in the past, though I am still under going physio, I can drive now! Ya no big deal right? To me, it was a second chance in being normal again and I am glad to report, I am standing straight & tall again!
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Now for my mother.
Lately, I noticed a swelling on my mom's foot. I was big but not blue or black. Asked her how long she got it. She said a few years & have gotten used to it. I said no no, must fix, if one day cannot walk how? So off to the GP again we went. As usual, referred for Xray.
The xray showed the growth of a spur like this (taken from google again)
Also, it can be seen that her foot was tilting to a side while standing up straight. So, was referred to a specialist as I mentioned in an earlier post
The specialist has an ultrasound machine in his clinic but was not convinced that the spur was the cause of the swelling or occasional pain my mom had after using it to see my mom's foot. So again, MRI was requested.
Well, the MRI showed it all, no surgery was required & the spur was not the cause. it was an injury on the top of the foot & the mri showed several layers of injury scars meaning the same spot was injured several times. This led to my personal conclusion that it was caused by those TCM massage my went frequently to. The specialist referred my mom to visit http://www.allgreen.com.sg/tanglinplace/level/level2/the-podiatry-centre/
So went. In the mean time, my mom too, like me, goes to the same physio & I'm glad to report my mom's swelling went down 50% just after the first visit to the physio & now with her new customised sole, her walking is painless & the swelling has totally subsided.
Lately, I noticed a swelling on my mom's foot. I was big but not blue or black. Asked her how long she got it. She said a few years & have gotten used to it. I said no no, must fix, if one day cannot walk how? So off to the GP again we went. As usual, referred for Xray.
The xray showed the growth of a spur like this (taken from google again)
Also, it can be seen that her foot was tilting to a side while standing up straight. So, was referred to a specialist as I mentioned in an earlier post
The specialist has an ultrasound machine in his clinic but was not convinced that the spur was the cause of the swelling or occasional pain my mom had after using it to see my mom's foot. So again, MRI was requested.
Well, the MRI showed it all, no surgery was required & the spur was not the cause. it was an injury on the top of the foot & the mri showed several layers of injury scars meaning the same spot was injured several times. This led to my personal conclusion that it was caused by those TCM massage my went frequently to. The specialist referred my mom to visit http://www.allgreen.com.sg/tanglinplace/level/level2/the-podiatry-centre/
So went. In the mean time, my mom too, like me, goes to the same physio & I'm glad to report my mom's swelling went down 50% just after the first visit to the physio & now with her new customised sole, her walking is painless & the swelling has totally subsided.
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Because those who are concerned are not young, I feel we should find the root cause of our problems. Yes, may cost a bit more, but it's what we know in the end that allows us to know how to fix it. The fear of almost not being able to walk or drive again is very fresh in my mind, and one will only know how that felt if they had the same close call before. No doubt supplements are good, if we're taking it with the assumption that it's to fix a part of our body & we got it wrong, imagine the build up of damamge we could be inflicting on our own body instead with initial intention of fixing it? That's why I felt I had to share this. I truly apologise for being so darn long winded. Cheers everyone, live healthy, not just for yourselves, but for your family
Thanks for the info on the supplement. Will try it out and see if it's effective, one note on the fish oil, will it make a person put on weight? When it's consume daily.
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