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Proposed stops for KL-S'pore high-speed rail - Nusajaya in Johor

FHBH12

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Might as well call off the HSR project, given the way Malaysia is doing things without consulting Singapore.
 

Manhattan

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I believe HSR and the RTS will be the game changer. Once up and running, People will be living in iskandar and coming to sg to work daily. The myth of ghost towns will be busted.

All of us believe in the unreleased potential of iskandar, that's why we are here in this forum. let's sit tight and see the drama unfolds. The HSR and RTS has to be be built, even if it is late. Otherwise my and sg will be left out in the global race to be a first class region to work and live.
 

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Thats right. I always find it amusing when so-called investors lament Iskandar as a failed city or project just because policies doesnt favour them. When spore meted out 3/4 tank rules, already these chaps were saying JB economy is doomed. After 20 to 30 years of the 3/4 tank policy, JB is still very much alive. Again, water finds it own levels. The time when jb prices stop shooting is when its on par with Singapore and it still has many years to go.
 

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To get on Par maybe not even in my life time.
In the medium terms to get to 50% is actually very good liao.
In my life time i would gladly take 70%.

:biggrin:
 

UsernameX

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Final nail in the coffin may be the VEP

Too low no point to implement. Too high no ppl go in to spend money. Must be just right. Unfortunately just right = NO VEP for now
 

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Final nail in the coffin may be the VEP

Too low no point to implement. Too high no ppl go in to spend money. Must be just right. Unfortunately just right = NO VEP for now

After S'pore had gone ahead to match their toll & roll the ball back to the M'sia court.. In order not to "lose face", not surprise M'sia may go ahead to implement VEP on SG cars without any good reason lol

If that's the case.. So is back to square one.. Is cheaper to own a M'sia plate car & drive to S'pore to work everyday.. So S'pore should increase VEP on M'sia cars further from current $35 to $50..... See who die first! Haha
 
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They should have studied before that HSR terminal at Jurong East will bring more economic benefits than in Tuas.
By doing so it will help to spur up the development surrounding Jurong East compare to Tuas which is too near to JB Nusajaya and may has been identified as a potential stop of HSR in Iskandar Malaysia.

Everyone has different take of where THE STAION WILL BE.SOME SAY IT WILL BE TUAS COS ITS WHAT THEY WANT,SOME SAYS JURONG AGAIN BCOS THEY WISH IT WILL BE THERE.

MY TAKE AS FOLLOWS

TUAS
Not likely cos too far off for east residence to go and it's just across the 2nd link...why bother

JURONG East
Likely but THEN AGAIN JURONG EAST ALREADY TOO CROWDED WITH PEOPLE AND CARS,THEY WQNT TO ADD UP CONGESTION?

CITY CENTRE
LIKELY ,YES COSTS WIL BE HIGH BUT ITS CENTRAL.SOME SAY SPORE DON'T WON'T TO HAVE SAME PROBLEM WITH KTM.BUT KTM HAD MALAYSIA's Custom /personnel at Tjg Pagar.The new one will have them in Malaysian territory so no issue.

We seems to overlook one location

Bidadari cemetery

It's underused so may be having the station there will lift up the area and make it more bustling AnND they planned will to hqve the first underground bus interchange there.

About costs,don't worry hover will know how to get it from us..as usual
 

PuteriWorld

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All the developments and money thrown into Jurong East are indications that the HSR station will most likely be located there. No point putting in Tuas unless its linked to a Tuas MRT station next to checkpoint

Those who haven't buy properties in Nusajaya had better sit up. And those who have bought properties in Gerbang Nusajaya where the Nusajaya station is already confirmed to be, congrats.
 

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If you look at the stations on Malaysia side, people will have to take a bus service to the station even for nusajaya. It is also a good opportunity to sell more land around HSR stations. It may still be possible to be connected to Tuas Link Station (next to raffles marina club).
All the developments and money thrown into Jurong East are indications that the HSR station will most likely be located there. No point putting in Tuas unless its linked to a Tuas MRT station next to checkpoint

Those who haven't buy properties in Nusajaya had better sit up. And those who have bought properties in Gerbang Nusajaya where the Nusajaya station is already confirmed to be, congrats.
 

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All the developments and money thrown into Jurong East are indications that the HSR station will most likely be located there. No point putting in Tuas unless its linked to a Tuas MRT station next to checkpoint

Those who haven't buy properties in Nusajaya had better sit up. And those who have bought properties in Gerbang Nusajaya where the Nusajaya station is already confirmed to be, congrats.

Leisure farm looks to be the nearest residential project.
 

PuteriWorld

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The nearest Industrial estate will be I-Parc. The nearest "residential" is not Leisure farm since Leisure Farm is not even in Gerbang Nusajaya but its one of the closest. Those pple who are vested in the left of checkpoint could be hitting jackpot soon when they announce



Leisure farm looks to be the nearest residential project.
 

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Tokyo pulls out all stops in tussle for high-speed train projects
It faces stiff competition from China in the bid to supply systems to Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam

By Anthony [email protected]
28 Oct5:50 AM
Tokyo

JAPAN and China, along with several European countries, are tussling to sell high-speed rail (HSR) systems around the world but the main focus at present is on winning a contract to supply an HSR link between Singapore and Malaysia because of the high stakes this could involve for future systems.

Japan has submitted proposals for the Singapore-Kuala Lumpur corridor and is also interested in supplying HSR systems to Thailand and Vietnam, although it could face tough competition from China, which Japanese officials say is eager to supply much more extensive HSR networks linking several Asean countries, including Singapore and Malaysia, with Chinese networks.

Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his Malaysian counterpart Najib Razak agreed last year to pursue a high speed rail link between their two countries. Malaysia has completed (although not yet published) a feasibility study on the project while such a study is still in process of being completed on the Singapore side, Tokyo officials say.

Malaysian media reports have suggested that the project could cost around RM40 billion (S$15.58 billion) but much higher financial, and even strategic stakes, could be involved if an integrated high speed rail system were eventually to be built linking not only Singapore and Malaysia but also Thailand and Vietnam.

Competition between Japan and China is also being extended to the US where Japan has submitted an "expression of interest" in California's US$68 billion HSR project, where Tangshan Railway (part of China's CNR Corporation) has submitted a similar expression of interest in conjunction with Sun Group USA, reports say.

Japan is, meanwhile, bidding independently to supply a so-called Maglev (magnetic levitation) super high-speed rail system to link New York and Washington DC - a project that US President Barack Obama and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe had discussed during a recent telephone conversation.

Elsewhere, Japan is focusing on seven possible HSR corridors in India, among which the proposed Mumbai-Ahmedabad project appears to be the "most promising" at present, and is also interested in HSR projects in Brazil, with which Tokyo has close links, an official in the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism told The Business Times.

Japan has been a pioneer in high-speed rail technology since it launched the Shinkansen or "bullet train" system linking Tokyo and Osaka at the time of the 1964 Olympic Games. Since then, Japan has built 2,400 kilometres of track specially dedicated to Shinkansen or express trains which are among the safest and most reliable in the world

Shinkansen systems have not been a major export prospect for Japan until recently, however, with the Taiwan High Speed Rail being the first Shinkansen to be deployed overseas. That situation is being revolutionised now as HSR systems spread beyond Europe, where firms such as Siemens of Germany and Alsthom of France dominate local markets.

Using what Japanese officials say is a combination of Japanese and European technology, China is building vast HSR networks in its own country and competing aggressively to sell these in markets as far apart as Asean and the Americas. Sales efforts are backed by China's huge foreign exchange reserves.

Japanese manufacturing giants such as Mitsubishi, Sumitomo, Hitachi, Toshiba and a host of other names less known internationally and which up until now have focused only on supplying hardware and software for domestic Shinkansen systems are now entering the global market for high speed rail systems, at times in consortiums.

To enable them to compete better internationally in HSR systems (as well in mass-transit, airports and other areas), Japan last week launched the Japan Overseas Investment Corporation or Join, a central government-funded entity with the Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) and the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) among its partners.

The launch coincided with Japan hosting a High Speed Rail Conference in Tokyo, staged by the International High Speed Rail Association , the Central Japan Railway Company and others with over 300 people from 11 countries gathering to discuss the future of a mode of transport which is increasingly rivalling domestic and international air and road networks.

Japan's Shinkansen system is virtually saturated now after 50 years of operation and Japanese makers of rail and signalling systems, rolling stock and other equipment are being forced increasingly to focus more on overseas markets where HSR systems are only just taking root, speakers at the Tokyo meeting pointed out.

With its dedicated tracks - serving only high speed trains of over 300 km/h - the Shinkansen system is deemed to be ultra safe (there have been zero fatalities or even injuries so far involving Shinkansen) and punctual to the point where the average delay per train is under one minute.

But Japanese officials including Masafumi Shukuri, chairman of the International High-speed Rail Association, acknowledged at last week's conference that HSR systems overseas would need to compete on other grounds in addition to safety and reliability. That is one reason why Join has been launched.

"We hope that potential customers will evaluate safety as well as cost," one government official told BT.

Mr Abe has become a vocal and international advocate of Japanese high-speed rail systems, including pushing to Mr Obama the idea of a Washington-New York link utilising the Superconducting Maglev technology pioneered by Japan, which will form the basis of a link between Tokyo and Nagoya in 2027.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/gov...stops-in-tussle-for-high-speed-train-projects
 

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It's at Marina Bay area....LHL dunno it...he will know after after studies are out...all will make sense....3rd IR will be nearby...

Nusajaya - Sg CC express...20mins RM25
Sg CC - Nusajaya express...20mins SGD25

Equivalent driving cost - Fuel, ERP, Parking and sometimes saman
 

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It's at Marina Bay area....LHL dunno it...he will know after after studies are out...all will make sense....3rd IR will be nearby...

Nusajaya - Sg CC express...20mins RM25
Sg CC - Nusajaya express...20mins SGD25

Equivalent driving cost - Fuel, ERP, Parking and sometimes saman

Very unlikely to have 3rd IR. It might be a political suicide.
 

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High-speed rail: Singapore to discuss with Malaysia possible delay to 2020 deadline
POSTED: 30 Oct 2014 18:55
UPDATED: 30 Oct 2014 19:17

Malaysia’s Land Public Transport Commission Chairman Syed Hamid Albar said in a recent interview that there may be problems with the original timeline, and that the two governments may need to study other factors in addition to construction.

SINGAPORE: Following reports that a high-ranking Malaysian official said the Singapore-Kuala Lumpur high-speed rail project may be delayed, Singapore’s Ministry of Transport told Channel NewsAsia that it will discuss with Malaysia “its assessment that realistically the project may take beyond 2020 to complete”.

In an interview with Bloomberg on Oct 28, Malaysia’s Land Public Transport Commission Chairman Syed Hamid Albar said six to seven years may be needed for the project once construction starts by 2016.

This could mean a delay of two to three years beyond the 2020 deadline announced earlier by Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his Malaysia counterpart Najib Razak. The rail link was first announced by the two leaders in 2013, and is expected to cut down travel time between the two cities to 90 minutes.

Mr Syed Hamid told Bloomberg there may be problems with the original timeline, as the governments may need to study other factors in addition to construction. “I suspect the (Malaysia) government is at the stage where they are mulling over the financing of this project. How are they going to do this without affecting the target on fiscal deficit and achieving a balanced budget by 2020?” he said.

Last week, Singapore requested that Malaysia provide an updated version of its feasibility study on the project, as there have been major changes to Malaysia's proposal. Singapore's Transport Ministry had said that both countries will need to discuss and agree on various other issues, including financing and governance frameworks, before construction begins.

In response to Mr Syed Hamid’s latest comments, Singapore’s Transport Ministry was quoted in reports as saying: "As far as we know, we are still working towards project completion by 2020 as agreed by the two Prime Ministers. We have not received any indication from Malaysia that it intends to delay the project beyond 2020. Our feasibility studies are on track to be completed next year and bilateral discussions with Malaysia are ongoing."

- CNA/xy

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/high-speed-rail-singapore/1443824.html
 
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