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South Korea: Actions of sunken ferry captain 'akin to murder'

yellowarse

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Korea has been touted as the most Confucianist nation on earth. And here's a cowardly captain and his crew who abandoned ship when they were needed most. Fucking disgrace to the noble construct of the Confucian gentleman (君子). Gooks will always be gooks; strip away the Samsung phone and Confucian piety and you see a tribal savage.

My hearts go out to the hapless students and their families. RIP.



South Korean President: Actions of sunken ferry captain 'akin to murder'

By Jethro Mullen, Kyung Lah and Will Ripley, CNN
April 22, 2014 -- Updated 0044 GMT (0844 HKT)




Jindo, South Korea (CNN)
-- South Korean President Park Geun-hye on Monday likened the actions of the captain and some crew members of the sunken ferry Sewol to murder, as police made more four arrests and divers continued searching the submerged vessel.


The captain of the South Korean ship, Lee Joon-seok, is already facing a series of criminal charges for his role in last week's sinking, in which at least 103 people have died and 199 others remain missing. Many of them are students and teachers on a field trip from a high school near Seoul.

"The actions of the captain and some of the crew are absolutely unacceptable, unforgivable actions that are akin to murder," Park said Monday in comments released by her office. She said she and other South Koreans were filled with "rage and horror."
The latest arrests of crew members bring the total number detained to seven as authorities investigate what went wrong on the ship as it sailed toward a popular holiday island.

Chonghaejin Marine, which operated the ferry, has posted an apology on its website.

"We pray for the Sewol victims who lost their precious lives due to the accident. We prostrate ourselves before the victims' families and beg for forgiveness.

"We apologize to all the people who are grieving for the loss of their loved ones. Also, we apologize to the people who had injuries, major or minor, due to this accident. We wish them a speedy recovery," read the statement. It was unclear when exactly it was posted.

"We will try our best to rescue the missing people quickly and we pray with all our hearts that there will be survivors.
"Once again, we beg for forgiveness from the victims' families and pray for the dead."

Dramatic dialogue

President Park's strong words came after more details emerged over the weekend about the chaos and confusion aboard the doomed ferry as the disaster unfolded in the cold waters of the Yellow Sea off South Korea's southwest coast.

A radio transcript released by authorities suggested that passengers on the ship couldn't reach lifeboats to escape because the ship tilted so quickly that it left many of them unable to move.

"Please notify the coast guard. Our ship is in danger. The ship is rolling right now," a crew member on the ship first tells authorities in a fraught conversation that took place as the Sewol ferry was foundering.

An unidentified crew member on the Sewol talked to two different Vessel Traffic Service centers as the ship sank Wednesday morning, the transcript revealed.

When one of the centers advises getting people into life vests, the crew member replies that it's "hard for people to move."

After the conversation switches to the other center, the crew member says the ship has leaned so far that passengers are unable to move.

"Are the passengers able to escape?" the center asks.

"The ship listed too much, so it is impossible," the crew member replies.

The center also urged the captain to take charge of the crisis.

"The captain should make (the) decision to make people escape," it told the ferry, noting that he had a better understanding of the situation.

Captain defends actions

Capt. Lee has defended his order to delay the evacuation of the ferry.

"It is a fairly fast current area, and the water temperature was cold," he said over the weekend, according to CNN affiliate YTN.

"I thought that abandoning the ship without discretion would make you drift off a fairly far distance and cause a lot of trouble. At the same time, the rescue ship did not come, and there were no fishing boats or supporting ships around to help at that time."

But the first mate of a boat that responded to the Sewol's emergency call disagreed.

"If the passengers had jumped into the water sooner, more people could have been rescued," Eun Dae-young told CNN affiliate YTN in a phone interview Monday.

The ferry captain has been charged with abandoning his boat, negligence, causing bodily injury, not seeking rescue from other ships and violating "seamen's law," South Korean media reported.

Prosecutor Lee Bong-chang gave more details about the accusations against the captain.

"Mr. Lee is charged with causing the Sewol ship to sink by failing to slow down while sailing the narrow route and making (a) turn excessively," the prosecutor told the semiofficial Yonhap news agency.

"Lee is also charged with failing to do the right thing to guide the passengers to escape and thereby leading to their death or injury."

If convicted, the captain faces from five years to life in prison.

The captain wasn't at the helm of the Sewol when it started to sink, the prosecutor said. A third mate was at the helm.

Authorities said Monday that four more crew members of the ferry have been detained, bringing the total number arrested to seven.

Two first helmsmen, one second helmsman and the chief engineer are now under arrest, said Yang Joong-jin, the chief prosecutor of the investigation. He said the four crew members could face indictment on several charges.

As well as the captain, two other crew members were arrested over the weekend.

Bodies brought ashore

At least 103 people have died in the sinking, and 199 are missing, the South Korean coast guard said Tuesday morning.

Although 174 people were rescued soon after the vessel sank Wednesday, no survivors have been found since.

After divers found a way into the submerged ship, search crews have been bringing ashore body after body.

They are carried onto the dock one by one, tied up in identical white bags.

Family members of the missing passengers wait anxiously, bracing themselves.

The bodies are put on a stretcher, draped with a blanket and taken up a gravel path.

Identification takes place inside white domed tents from which the howls of grief-stricken parents escape.

"You must've said, 'Daddy, save me,'" weeps one father.

Some of the police officers standing guard outside wipe away tears.

With hundreds of people still missing, the grim process is likely to be repeated again and again.

Divers feel emotional strain

Dozens of divers have continued to plunge into the frigid, murky waters, still holding out hope that they might find somebody alive inside the sunken ship.

"There must be survivors, no matter what we must find the air pocket. That's why I have hope," Choung Dong-nam, the head of volunteer divers involved in the search, said Sunday.

But each hour reduces the chances of finding anyone alive, and the human cost of the disaster weighs on the divers.

"We cry everyday and search for the missing people," Choung said. "I cry whenever I think about it."

Divers were expected Monday to try to enter the ship's cafeteria, where authorities believe most students were when the ship started to sink, officials said.

Their task is made severely challenging by the poor visibility.

One meter down, they can see about 50 centimeters in front of them, Choung said. Below 10 meters, they can see only 20 centimeters ahead.

The divers are using guidelines to navigate their way around

Where was the captain?

As the search goes on, the actions of the captain and crew remain under scrutiny.

The captain was not in the steering room when the accident took place, according to police and his own account.

He said he plotted the ship's course, and then went to his cabin briefly "to tend to something." It was then, the captain said, that the accident happened.

A crew member, described as the third mate and identified only as Park, appeared in handcuffs with Capt. Lee at the weekend.

The third mate said she did not make a sharp turn, but "the steering turned much more than usual."

The captain and the third mate both apologized to the bereaved families.

Park is facing charges including negligence and causing injuries leading to deaths, authorities said. A technician with the surname Cho is also facing the same charges, they said.

The captain was one those rescued soon after the Sewol began to sink, violating an "internationally recognized rule that a captain must stay on the vessel," maritime law attorney Jack Hickey said.

"Pretty much every law, rule, regulation and standard throughout the world says that yes, the captain must stay with the ship until all personnel are safely off of the ship, certainly passengers."

 

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Captain must stay with the ship till the last crew leaves ? Is that rule a little stupid ? What if the last one never comes ?

Can the Captain walk on water like Jesus ?
 

yellowarse

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Captain must stay with the ship till the last crew leaves ? Is that rule a little stupid ? What if the last one never comes ?

No reasonable person would expect the captain to literally be the 'last man' to leave. But he's supposed to be at the helm and direct escape/rescue operations so that as many people as possible could be saved before it becomes too dangerous to stay aboard. Not to mention he's alleged to have caused the crash by speeding through a narrow channel.

This guy was the first to jump ship. Kinda like a fireman running from a house on fire before helping the occupants out.
 

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Seriously wonder if the Lightning Generals and Rear Admirers
Have heard of and more importantly take action when time comes
To implement the Birkenhead drill of women and children first
As some TWIT will say angmoh is the bestest
Since they now dunce go to church that often
Not sure if present net savvy ang mohs are of the same breed



To take your chance in the thick of a rush, with firing all about,

Is nothing so bad when you've cover to 'and, an' leave an' likin' to shout;
But to stand an' be still to the Birken'ead drill is a damn tough bullet to chew,
An' they done it, the Jollies -- 'Er Majesty's Jollies -- soldier an' sailor too!
Their work was done when it 'adn't begun; they was younger nor me an' you;
Their choice it was plain between drownin' in 'eaps an' bein' mopped by the screw,

So they stood an' was still to the Birken'ead drill, soldier an' sailor too

Rudyard Kipling

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Birkenhead_(1845)
 

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whatever wrong the kaptian did, it better to wait for the investigation to complete and give him a fair trial. Due to the circus that happening now, the chance of a fair trial is out of the question. in order to satisfy the lynch mob and dun make the president lose face over her comments, the judge die die must sentence him and his crew the maximium guilty verdict.
 

yellowarse

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South Korea ferry disaster: Families protest over rescue operation

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Seoul (CNN) -- Angry and frustrated over both the search and rescue operation and the flow of information from South Korean authorities, dozens of relatives of missing ferry passengers intending to march in protest to Seoul were blocked by police from leaving Jindo.

Early Sunday around 2 a.m, the family members left their temporary shelter at an indoor gym and demanded they be able to go to the Blue House -- the official residence of the South Korean President Park Geun-hye -- to present their complaints.

The residence is located in the capital, Seoul -- some 275 miles north of Jindo.

Jindo is the port city where the search, rescue and recovery operation has been based since the ferry, carrying 476 passengers, capsized and sank on Wednesday. Hundreds of passengers remain unaccounted for.

A police cordon prevented the planned march from proceeding, witnesses said. A few scuffles broke out but no one was reported hurt.

"We are not getting any help, so we want to go to the Blue House,' said Nam Sa Hyun, an older sister of a student who is missing from the ferry. "We want to tell the president about our situation."

"For four days, there is no help. Right now, nobody is giving information on the missing. Our children are in the boat and there is no plan."

Though the police were not aggressive to the protesting families, Nam questioned why there were so many officers at the site of anguished relatives.

"They're not letting us get on the bus, the police are blocking us," she said. "They're not helping us, they're just blocking us."

Several families stayed in the street, attempting to break through police lines in their march. Some families lay down on the ground, sleeping outside in the cold to express their displeasure.

In a video sent to CNN, angry parents yelled at officials who were trying to convince the families to go back to the gym, which serves as a temporary shelter for families.

"I can't believe them," a woman shouted at the official who was urging them to return.

"Let's go on our way. Why do we sit here and listen to them?'

 
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yellowarse

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whatever wrong the kaptian did, it better to wait for the investigation to complete and give him a fair trial. Due to the circus that happening now, the chance of a fair trial is out of the question. in order to satisfy the lynch mob and dun make the president lose face over her comments, the judge die die must sentence him and his crew the maximium guilty verdict.

Agree. The authorities are caught between a rock and a hard place. Whatever shit is unearthed, assuaging the bereaved family members seems to be the top political priority right now, and someone will have to take the rap, most likely the captain and some of his crew.
 

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that is the problem of voting for woman president, they are stupid. cannot even tell the difference of murder or poor training.

ferry crews made mistake, to err is human. poor training, bad decision probably. Murder NO.
 

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Agree. The authorities are caught between a rock and a hard place. Whatever shit is unearthed, assuaging the bereaved family members seems to be the top political priority right now, and someone will have to take the rap, most likely the captain and some of his crew.


the crews should push all the blame to the captain who should shoulder all the responsibility in negligence of duty. afterall he is the captain.
 
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captain not to be blame. Everyone know that ship in trouble, first thing to go to top deck in life vests. Not doing that is simple stupidity. BASIC maritime knowledge.
 

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from the CNN report, look like no difference between the koreans and chinese when their family members are kill in air/sea mishaps yet till now nobody say anything about the koreans behavour yet the ah tiongs were condemn by the whole world. A bit bias lor....
 

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captain not to be blame. Everyone know that ship in trouble, first thing to go to top deck in life vests. Not doing that is simple stupidity. BASIC maritime knowledge.
hahaha.....common sense is one thing, but the captain is responsible by virtue of his appointment.....
the captain cannot be on the bridge all the time but when there is any incident, he must be on the bridge to take charge and assess the situation.....
when a ship starts to list he has to sound the alarm and prepare to abandon ship (and not left to the common sense of passengers/crew).....
he is expected to be the last man to leave the ship again by virtue of his appointment as Captain.....

in this case, it is quite clear that the captain was indecisive and incompetent....he waited too long to give the order to abandon ship because by then the ship had listed too much and launching of life boats became impossible....
what made it worst is that he left the ship in a hurry and leave the passengers/crew to their fate.....
the captain is not the scapegoat but the one directly responsible for the loss of so many lives...
he should hanged himself in shame...
 
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why the kaptian make the passengers wait below deck, i have no idea as only will know after the investigation. as for passengers taking their chance in the water, water temperature of the area around 12-16 degree celsius. will this temperature caused hypothemia?
 

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from the CNN report, look like no difference between the koreans and chinese when their family members are kill in air/sea mishaps yet till now nobody say anything about the koreans behavour yet the ah tiongs were condemn by the whole world. A bit bias lor....



I think racially and culturally the Chinese and Koreans are similar in temperaments, behavior and in their emotion. The Koreans like the Chinese are always very excessive and sometimes emotionally extremely expressive in their behavior esp in griefs. During protests against the Japanese, some Koreans chopped off their own fingers in rage. Others fought and hurt tjeir own police during protests against North Korea. In this sense the South Koreans are no different from their North Koreans bethrens who jumped, cried,screamed when their leader died...

I guess the Koreans like the Chinese do not trust their government and feel that the Government is not doing enough to save the missing passengers. In fact many observers of the Msian flight MH 370 now believe the anger shown towards the Malaysian Government is in fact aimed at their own Chinese Government for being inert and not forthcoming on information... and which the Chinese Government knew and smartly n quickly push it away to the Malaysians instead.

Similarily, the South Korean governemnt is pushing away all blame on itself and push it to the captain and the two crews, accusing them as being the true murderers. Unlike the chinese who would be arrested for protesting against their government, the south Koreans did not fall for the government detractors and continue to accuse the Skorean govt for the mishap.

There are many comparisons between the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese. It seems the Japanese are a class of their own when faced with grief, taking quielty their sorrows, maintain their posture and do not blame it on anyone.

In a way, the Japanese are culturally very strong.compared to the Koreans and Chinese who are not.
 
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kukubird58

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why the kaptian make the passengers wait below deck, i have no idea as only will know after the investigation. as for passengers taking their chance in the water, water temperature of the area around 12-16 degree celsius. will this temperature caused hypothemia?
hahaha...it is basically indecision and incompetence on the part of the captain.....
when a ship starts to list, he should sound the alarm for life boat stations meaning everyone will assemble near their assigned lifeboat and wait for further order.....jumping into sea is not the normal way to escape...
when the list goes beyond a certain degree based on the ship stability data, order should be given for abandon ship and everyone gets into their lifeboats......
once the ship listed beyond a certain degree, it is almost impossible to make your way to the upper deck and also not possible to launch the life boats
 
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sleaguepunter

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There are many comparisons between the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese. It seems the Japanese are a class of their own when faced with grief, taking quielty their sorrows, maintain their posture and do not blame it on anyone.

In a way, the Japanese are culturally very strong.compared to the Koreans and Chinese who are not.

japanese taking their sorrows themselves equal culturally strong? i a bit disagree as i find these behaviour very disturb. all it shown to me is that japanese like to hide their own feeling and if cannot get the sorrows out of their system, they tend to do 变态 nonsense.

modern examples are japanese salarymen joining sex tours in asia or japanese women going bali or philippines to suck dark cocks.

for the culturely advance japanese, can commit unspeakable crimes against civillians and pow in times of war. Dun give bullshit about samurai no surrender BS. Plenty of examples of samurai turncoats and surrender in mediveal japan.
 
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