• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Anti-Chinese feelings in Thailand high as influx of tourists angers locals

Boba Fett

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset


Anti-Chinese feelings in Thailand high as influx of tourists angers locals

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 15 April, 2014, 10:57pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 15 April, 2014, 11:00pm

Associated Press in Chiang Mai

thailand_chinese_.jpg


Chinese tourists ride on a cart while touring Chiang Mai University. Photo: AP

The bucolic, once laid-back campus of one of Thailand’s top universities is under a security clampdown. Not against a terrorist threat, but against Chinese tourists.

Thousands have clambered aboard student buses at Chiang Mai University, made a mess in cafeterias and sneaked into classes to attend lectures. Someone even pitched a tent by a picturesque lake. The reason: “Lost in Thailand,” 2012 slapstick comedy partly shot on campus that is China’s highest-grossing homegrown movie ever.

In order to bring out such strong feelings in Chiang Mai people, it must be really bad. Generally, Chiang Mai people are quite tolerant of foreigners

Guest house owner, Annette Kunigagon


Now visitors are restricted to entering through a single gate manned by Mandarin-speaking volunteers who direct Chinese tourists to a line of vehicles for guided tours. Individual visitors are banned, and a sign in prominent Chinese characters requesting that passports be produced is posted by the gate.

With their economy surging, mainland Chinese have become the world’s most common world traveler, with more than 100 million expected to go abroad this year. In 2012, they overtook the Americans and Germans as the top international spenders, according to the United Nations World Tourism Organisation.

But in Chiang Mai and elsewhere, Chinese tourists have acquired the same sort of reputation for loud, uncouth, culturally unaware behaviour that inspired the term “Ugly Americans” decades ago.

Many in the tourism industry are delighted by the influx, but 80 per cent of 2,200 Chiang Mai residents polled by the university in February said they were highly displeased with Chinese behaviour. The survey and numerous comments on Thai social media blamed Chinese for spitting, littering, cutting into lines, flouting traffic laws and allowing their children to relieve themselves in public pools. Some restaurant owners complained of Chinese filling up doggy bags at buffets.

The low point in local-tourist relations in Thailand’s second-largest city was likely a photograph widely seen on the Internet of a person, purportedly Chinese, defecating in the city’s ancient moat.

“Unfortunately, right now, the feeling is very anti-Chinese. In order to bring out such strong feelings in Chiang Mai people, it must be really bad. Generally, Chiang Mai people are quite tolerant of foreigners,” says Annette Kunigagon, Irish owner of the long-established Eagle Guesthouse.

But she and others point out that much of the inappropriate behaviour applies to tour groups rather than individual travelers who are generally younger, better educated and more attuned to local customs.

Some of the censure smacks of hypocrisy. The Thais themselves are champion litterers and have notched one of the highest traffic fatality rates in the world.

Residents of Chiang Mai, a 700-year-old city rich in cultural traditions, may be particularly sensitive to some Chinese ways, priding themselves on refined, gentle manners and soft speech. Perhaps their most common complaint is how loud the visitors tend to talk. There is also anxiety, reflected in the university poll, that in tandem with the tourists an increasing number of Chinese are buying property, setting up businesses and taking jobs from locals.

Thais are far from the only people unhappy. Over the past few years, some hotels and restaurant buffets – where guests have filled doggy bags after eating – have made it clear that Chinese are not welcome. Hong Kong Airlines has trained crew members in kung fu to subdue drunken passengers and a sign in Chinese at Paris’ Louvre requests that visitors not defecate or urinate on the museum grounds. Widely publicised was graffiti etched into Egypt’s ancient Luxor temple reading “Ding Jinhao was here.”

Chinese Vice Premier Wang Yang last year said negative conduct had “damaged the image of the Chinese people.” The government issued a tourism law mainly to regulate the domestic market but which urges travellers abroad to “abide by the norms of civilized tourist behaviour.” It also produced a 64-page Guidebook for Civilisd Tourism with a long list of “do nots,” includes nose-picking in public, stealing life jackets from airplanes and slurping down noodles.

One of the most virulent critics has been Wang Yunmei, who recently published “Pigs on the Loose: Chinese Tour Groups” after six years of travel abroad. While the book drew mostly “nasty” comments from fellow countrymen, Wang says some told her that the book should have come out years ago.

Some Chinese media commentators say improper behaviour is often an extension of domestic habits. Wang says many Chinese tourists are rural people who recently acquired money through land sales but have little education and speak only their own language. If public toilets don’t exist in their villages, she says, they may not know to look for them when the need arises. She also says education has also not kept pace with the rapid rise of the middle class and its growing wealth.

“It’s going to take some years before they behave better. There has been a campaign in China for some time, but these things are still going on,” she says.

Those who are making money off the influx are looking on the bright side.

“We have talked to many businesses and they are very happy,” says Wisoot Buachoom, director of the Tourism Authority of Thailand in Chiang Mai. The gap between the city’s high and low tourist seasons has been narrowed because of the Chinese influx, he says.

Wisoot says several Chiang Mai agencies are working to regulate some of the Chinese behaviour, like insisting on international driving licenses for car rentals. They have also enlisted movie stars to deliver messages about proper conduct while lauding Thailand’s attractions on Chinese television.

“In the past, we had some of the same problems with Westerners coming to Chiang Mai, but now we see very little of this,” he says.

Even on the campus overwhelmed with Chinese tourists, Chiang Mai University Vice President Rome Chiranukrom calls it “an opportunity, not a threat, a raid.” He says the experience has given his students a “reverse culture shock” that will teach them to behave appropriately in other societies.

“We live in a globalised world and need our students to see the differences with others – and these came right here for us to see,” he says.

Rome notes that 60 per cent of Chinese tourists to Thailand are first-time travellers abroad, coming wide-eyed and generally speaking no foreign language to a place where all signs are in Thai or English.

“We need to learn to communicate and provide information, and then I believe that many will listen, understand our culture and obey our laws and regulations,” he says.

Rome himself has just started Mandarin lessons.

 
Last edited:

laksaboy

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Many in the tourism industry are delighted by the influx, but 80 per cent of 2,200 Chiang Mai residents polled by the university in February said they were highly displeased with Chinese behaviour. The survey and numerous comments on Thai social media blamed Chinese for spitting, littering, cutting into lines, flouting traffic laws and allowing their children to relieve themselves in public pools.

Still emulating Chairman Mao till this very day. :rolleyes:
 

tanwahtiu

Alfrescian
Loyal
don't mess with the Chinese. This was the how the Chinese get rid of all Pommies and evil West in the 1800s over illegal opium trades and Opium wars in China.

Boxer revolution leading to 八国连昆 to get rid of all evil West in China. If not for the weak emperor dynasty the evil West don't even have a foothold to colonize SEA region and there will be no English language you have to died die learn to use today. Fuck the English bastard!



And I thought its just a "malay" thing with the chinese. Its a worldwide phenomena.
 
Last edited:

Sideswipe

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
fuck the Thais. if they have backbone, just ban the Chinese tourists. if they want their dirty money, then they have to endure their shit behavior too.
 

sukhoi-30

Alfrescian
Loyal
I guess the Chinese behavior is reminiscent of the "Ugly Americans" in the 1970s but I guess the Chinese is several times worse than the Americans or anyone at that.

There are many analysis of why the Chinese behaves like that and my simple guess is that many of them got rich before learning what is acceptable behavior. In fact I personally witness an argument in the streets of Beijing where a middle age man threw a bunch of US dollars notes in the face of a old street cobbler after the cobbler complain of the man persistence bargaining. Others knocked down street beggars with their expensive cars without any penalties and loud quarrels, brawls and fights happened regularly in buses, trains and even inside aeroplanes still in the air. Just don't know why the Chinese loves to fight and quarrel among themselves.

Sad to say but the Chinese really behaves in a way that may shocked many. Chinese tourists in many parts of the world also carried their behavior to their destination, spitting, talking loudly and even vandalising historical places of interests.

While everyone sympathise with the fate of the passengers of the missing MH370, the actions and behavior of chinese families such as screaming at the top of their voices, crying hysterically, kicking and throwing tantrums at innocent cameraman, throwing bottles, hurling expletives at both malaysian n chinese officials, street protest, unfurling banners and raising their fists n even scuffling with their own police somewhat catch the attention of the international media. Some even used animal connotations at Malaysian officials while the rest laughed and giggled loudly in order to humiliated them. These seems to be out of place and abnormal for someone deeply in grief. Even the Buddhist Tzu Chi volunteers who serve the families wholeheartedly were manhandled that the chinese police have to gives them protection.While their anger is understandable, somewhat their actions is quite over the board that even the Chinese government feels embarrassed and threatened and have now turned around to control the actions of its chinese families and the Global Times, even warned them of "casting a bad image".

Hopefully as the country develops, things will get better.
 
Last edited:

johnny333

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Thousands have clambered aboard student buses at Chiang Mai University, made a mess in cafeterias and sneaked into classes to attend lectures. Someone even pitched a tent by a picturesque lake. The reason: “Lost in Thailand,” 2012 slapstick comedy partly shot on campus that is China’s highest-grossing homegrown movie ever...


Why would any chinese attend a lecture in thai :confused:

The university should look at it as a business opportunity to make $$$ by having lectures in Chinese especially for the Chinese like they do in Spore:wink:
 

tonychat

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Chinese Vice Premier Wang Yang last year said negative conduct had “damaged the image of the Chinese people.” The government issued a tourism law mainly to regulate the domestic market but which urges travellers abroad to “abide by the norms of civilized tourist behaviour.” It also produced a 64-page Guidebook for Civilisd Tourism with a long list of “do nots,” includes nose-picking in public, stealing life jackets from airplanes and slurping down noodles.

Look at how fucked up the chinks are.. Even their own premier also agree that they are fucked up and need a book to teach them how to behave like a real human being.

but there is one nationality that is far worse than china chinks... the one who got no balls and bend down to let the govt screw daily.
 
Top