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No Elections until 2016

groinroot

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If the Oppo don't get their act together, it will be same old story!! Maybe they will lose another GRC or two, that's all.

You are right. However, the Oppo will never be allowed to "get their act together". There will be forces at work to ensure they remain disunited. Straight fights (or two-cornered fights) will be a rarity. In constituencies where the stakes are high expect multiple-cornered fights to dilute opposition votes. The last PE is a good example.
 

tanwahtiu

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Old Loong will be either booted out by voters in GE or ask to leave if he fail miserably in GE. PAP itself in crisis if lose a few more GRCs.

He will not take risk and go full term to make as much money these few years, no hurry.



Just back from meeting with the usual gang / contacts for late night supper and the terik. (ps. no ang mo in sight, must be at Orchard Rd / Clarke Quay on Saturday nights)

There are no plans to call a General Elections and that includes a scenario if the old man kicks the bucket.

The reason they announced the candidates early is that they learnt a good lesson from Workers Party during the Mango By-Elections at Punggol East SMC where the they trounced / analed the colorectal surgeon by 10%. The win was attributed to Lee Li Lian's profile prior to the elections and the fact that she covered the ground twice.

The long held practice of announcing candidates at the last minute has turned out to be an error. The decision has been made that except for civil servants, the rest will play a more prominent role at least one full year ahead. They are also expected to carry prominent role within the PAP Branch and other grassroots activities. Expect them to start visiting uncle and aunty and eating at your neighbourhood hawker centres on weekends. The Aljunied team is now complete.

Much debate of type of MPs that can win was also a contentious issue within the party. 34 years old, non-scholar, smile here, smile there, with the HDB look will take more prominent place. I suspect that new candidates claiming that they struggled to buy chopsticks are no longer acceptable.

The another major reason for the 2016 outlook is that a there are a raft of measures to soften the ground that has yet to be completed. Could not find out what exactly these are... akan datang.
 

ykhuser

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From the way things are going for the WP with the feet firmly working the ground in their constituencies, they will be in prime standing to win another GRC or two to lower the percentage of PAP votes.

A likely "freak" election result in this case would then be for them to win the popular vote but lose in seat numbers, which will force PAP to consider the possibility of forming a limited coalition with them, possibly giving up the more inconsequential ministerial positions (PMO, office for example) as an enticer for WP to sign up.

Lets see then what WP is made of, and if the individuals within can walk the balance of politics, principle and ideology.

HOW do one ensure that when you get 51% vote,they will announce you are winner.
if they announce you win 42% , you also lan lan.call police also lan lan.go court also lan lan.
invite American to be the judge?lan lan
 

kukubird58

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So which side are you with? PAP or Oppo?
hahaha.....I am kukubird...so I am with nobody.....
in the past, I have always voted for opps...not because I think they can do a better a job than papee....but simply to bring up the percentage of opps....
the tide seems to have changed now and the trend is to vote for opps.....
I have said I will vote for papee the next GE just to spite all the vulgar, foul mouthed, retarded opps supporters whom I am not comfortable with if opps is to form the next gahmen in the event of a fluke result.
 
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kingrant

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Dont underestimate our iQ lah...you mean we shud then listen to a fool like you?

hahaha...although I agree with the gist of what u said, the way u said it really takes the cake.....
usual contacts???
so u have been mixing with pple very close to MIW leadership or bullshitting again???
forummers...better be warned...double-headed snake....lol.
 

kingrant

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Methinks it makes little diff whetehr they are announced first and spent time on the ground. Basically, those who are able to campaign and rouse the crowd are not Ministerial material and vice versa. So those who can win will become mere MPs not Ministers.

I wouldnt say that during his time, LHL roused the crowd and moved the earth either.
 
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scroobal

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In the past even if the opposition parties, political observers and journalist are aware of potential PAP candidates following incumbents around, the profile amongst the voting public was practically nil. Also nobody was going to run an article on a potential candidate who was not holding any formal position.There was also the fact that the key figures were coming from the scholar cohort within the civil service.

Now they have appointed them to CCCs, named as branch secretary etc. This then allows the PAP candidates to start meeting the ward voters. They will no longer have the disadvantage that previous PAP candidates had compared to WP candidates who are known to have walked the ground a few times.

There has also been 2 last minute withdrawals of PAP candidates in the last 2 GE due to conduct issues and these were embarrassing. Raising their profile early also allows public screening to take place without officially naming the candidate as a formal entry.

Then there is also the phenomena of allowing time to take the edge and attention out of controversial candidates such as Kate Spade which was intense, and highly damaging. An issue that cannot be repeated. So those who are pretty mundane are likely of be released early so they do not be treated as inferior to the stars that at going to announced closer to nominations. Putting all together you can separate wheat from the chaff especially with a large slate for the PAP.

I think it will be interesting how the profile around the 34 year old lady with the PBM is going to be handled via the prostitute press and the tax payer funded PAP captive stat board PA which is also their campaign arm. I suspect that will be an initial drip feed and slowing ratching up. And the crescendo is when she parts the red sea close to nomination day where they reveal that she was instrumental is getting a new Hawker Centre for residents and fought Viv B tooth and nail in a bruising battle with spring cleaning thrown in by MOE.
 
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enterprise2

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In the past even if the opposition parties, political observers and journalist are aware of potential PAP candidates following incumbents around, the profile amongst the voting public was practically nil. Also nobody was going to run an article on a potential candidate who was not holding any formal position.There was also the fact that the key figures were coming from the scholar cohort within the civil service.

Now they have appointed them to CCCs, named as branch secretary etc. This then allows the PAP candidates to start meeting the ward voters. They will no longer have the disadvantage that previous PAP candidates had compared to WP candidates who are known to have walked the ground a few times.

There has also been 2 last minute withdrawals of PAP candidates in the last 2 GE due to conduct issues and these were embarrassing. Raising their profile early also allows public screening to take place without officially naming the candidate as a formal entry.

Then there is also the phenomena of allowing time to take the edge and attention out of
controversial candidates such as Kate Spade which was intense, and highly damaging. An issue that cannot be repeated. So those who are pretty mundane are likely of be released.

I think it will be interesting how the profile around the 34 year old lady with the PBM is going to
be handled via the prostitute press and the tax payer funded PAP captive stat board PA which is also their campaign arm. I suspect that will be an initial drip feed and slowing ratching up. And the crescendo is when she parts the red sea close to nomination day where they reveal that she was instrumental is getting a new Hawker Centre for residents and fought Viv B tooth and nail in a bruising battle with spring cleaning thrown in by MOE.


So they r getting their Act together. Question is what the Oppo gonna do about it??
 

steffychun

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Just back from meeting with the usual gang / contacts for late night supper and the terik. (ps. no ang mo in sight, must be at Orchard Rd / Clarke Quay on Saturday nights)

There are no plans to call a General Elections and that includes a scenario if the old man kicks the bucket.

The reason they announced the candidates early is that they learnt a good lesson from Workers Party during the Mango By-Elections at Punggol East SMC where the they trounced / analed the colorectal surgeon by 10%. The win was attributed to Lee Li Lian's profile prior to the elections and the fact that she covered the ground twice.

The long held practice of announcing candidates at the last minute has turned out to be an error. The decision has been made that except for civil servants, the rest will play a more prominent role at least one full year ahead. They are also expected to carry prominent role within the PAP Branch and other grassroots activities. Expect them to start visiting uncle and aunty and eating at your neighbourhood hawker centres on weekends. The Aljunied team is now complete.

Much debate of type of MPs that can win was also a contentious issue within the party. 34 years old, non-scholar, smile here, smile there, with the HDB look will take more prominent place. I suspect that new candidates claiming that they struggled to buy chopsticks are no longer acceptable.

The another major reason for the 2016 outlook is that a there are a raft of measures to soften the ground that has yet to be completed. Could not find out what exactly these are... akan datang.

Who are your contacts
 

scroobal

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My sense is that WP strategy is working and the ground has been shifting quite a while due to incompetent policies coupled with poor ministerial quality. WP needs to continue getting good candidates that resonates with the people (a area they have done well). The other opposition parties have to consolidate around their key strengths and focus on one or two constituency. Sadly NSP is rudderless and Sebastian their formal leader under their party constitution but a puppet master has to step aside. Too many question marks.

There is also a possibility that PAP friendly Party B might surface similar to the roundtable scenario is going to surface. With the notion of coalition being mentioned in London, this has gained strength. A party that cannot be associated with PAP bad policies.

So they r getting their Act together. Question is what the Oppo gonna do about it??
 

enterprise2

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My sense is that WP strategy is working and the ground has been shifting quite a while due to incompetent policies coupled with poor ministerial quality. WP needs to continue getting good candidates that resonates with the people (a area they have done well). The other opposition parties have to consolidate around their key strengths and focus on one or two constituency. Sadly NSP is rudderless and Sebastian their formal leader under their party constitution but a puppet master has to step aside. Too many question marks.
There is also a possibility that PAP friendly Party B might surface similar to the roundtable scenario is going to surface. With the notion of coalition being mentioned in London, this has gained strength. A party that cannot be associated with PAP bad policies.
Good strategy. They r getting their Act together and also cover their bases in the unlikely event they lose, they have a PAP friendly partner!! Sounds like they did a lot of planning into this. Question is will it work??
 

rusty

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hahaha.....I am kukubird...so I am with nobody.....
in the past, I have always voted for opps...not because I think they can do a better a job than papee....but simply to bring up the percentage of opps....
the tide seems to have changed now and the trend is to vote for opps.....
I have said I will vote for papee the next GE just to spite all the vulgar, foul mouthed, retarded opps supporters whom I am not comfortable with if opps is to form the next gahmen in the event of a fluke result.

So who's the double headed snake when your decision can be changed by the tide instead of sticking on to your principles?

LKY once said,"over his dead body" if a casino were to be built, now we have two.

You should enter politics, don't waste your time and talent here in character assassination of others when you have one befitting a Mentor Minister.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Methinks it makes little diff whetehr they are announced first and spent time on the ground. Basically, those who are able to campaign and rouse the crowd are not Ministerial material and vice versa. So those who can win will become mere MPs not Ministers.

I wouldnt say that during his time, LHL roused the crowd and moved the earth either.


PAP were well and truly shaken by 3L's stunning majority in PE. Past experience indicates when PAP is rattled to this extent, they feel compelled to change certain ways of doing things out of desperation. So the strategy now is to do exact opposite of what happened during PEBE. Introduce candidates early, no more false claims to a humble background, no more elitist personality, no more hyping academic credentials. Unlike George Yeo team which did nothing wrong but were defeated by an unstoppable tidal wave beyond their control, KPK is ground zero of everything that has gone wrong with the PAP electoral machinery.
 
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