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First (public) gay wedding in South East Asia

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Not (yet) legally recognised, but they went ahead with tying the knot.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/a-small-step-forward-for-asean-lgbt-rights/

A Small Step Forward for ASEAN LGBT Rights

LGBT activists face a tough battle winning acceptance in Southeast Asia, but there are some modest signs of change.

By Kirsten Han

Photographs show Myo Min Htet and Tin Ko Ko clad in traditional Burmese garb, hands clasped as they walk down the aisle past smiling guests. They pour champagne over a stacked tower of glasses. Another photo shows Tin Ko Ko giving his partner a kiss on the cheek.
Although they still have no legal status as a married couple, the ceremony was Myanmar’s very first public gay wedding.
It’s a small step towards acceptance of the lesbian, gay, transgender, bisexual, intersex and questioning (LGBTIQ) community in Myanmar. It’s a trend that activists and advocates in the region want to encourage, but they’re not stopping there: they want recognition of sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression throughout ASEAN too.
With 10 Southeast Asian countries represented, the ASEAN SOGIE Caucus is a network of human rights activists doing work related to issues of sexual orientation, gender identity and expression (SOGIE). They want SOGIE to be included in the ASEAN Human Rights Mechanism, thus affording legal protection to the LGBTIQ community.
It’s not going to be easy, and they know it. “Because of the ASEAN principles of non-interference and consensus decision-making, combined with the problematic emphasis on regional particularities, it is really an uphill climb for LGBTIQ activists in asserting SOGIE inclusion in the ASEAN,” writes Filipino activist Ging Cristobal in an email.
An infographic produced by the caucus highlights the laws in ASEAN countries that target and discriminate against LGBT people. For example, section 377 of the penal codes of Brunei, Malaysia, Myanmar and Singapore – a leftover from these countries’ history as British colonies – still outlaws sex between consenting male adults, and is often also known as the “sodomy law.” There are also laws prohibiting transgender people from changing their name and gender in Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand and the Philippines. Media regulations mean that there is a dearth of the kind of LGBT characters and content that might improve social understanding and acceptance.
But it’s not just about laws. Violence and harassment in society can make life hellish for LGBTIQ people. A study carried out in Thailand last November found that one-third of 2,000 LGBT students had been physically harassed. A report by the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission found that 15 lesbians had been murdered in Thailand in the six years from 2006 to 2012. This, despite it being the only ASEAN country that supported the UN declaration of LGBT rights. Hate crime also occurs in the Philippines, despite studies reporting that it is among the most “gay-friendly” countries in the world.
Residents of ASEAN countries can be just as conservative as their legislators, if not more so. A webpage published by Singapore’s Health Promotion Board addressing questions on homosexuality and bisexuality ignited a firestorm of debate after conservative Christians both in and out of Parliament raised objections. They had taken exception to the webpage stating that homosexual relationships were “not that different” from heterosexual ones, saying that it was a signal to young Singaporeans that there was nothing wrong with homosexuality.
A Malay Studies professor at the National University of Singapore also attracted complaints after posting a Facebook note describing lesbianism as a “cancer” and a “social disease” that needed to be “cleansed.” The backlash led to the university affirming its commitment to respecting sexual orientation within the institution, yet worries remain about the voices of conservatives dominating the discussion on LGBT rights.
These situations show how strong the opposition to granting the LGBTIQ community equal rights and protection can be. With societies resistant to the idea of granting LGBTIQ equal rights and recognition, governments can often find easy excuses to oppose any change.
“SOGIE issues are deliberately being excluded within ASEAN,” Cristobal writes. “There have been directives from the governments of Malaysia, Brunei and Singapore to oppose any inclusion of SOGIE in any human rights instruments such as the ASEAN Intergovernmental Commission on Human Rights and the recent declaration on the elimination of violence against woman and children.”
That’s not to say that there aren’t any encouraging developments. The Vietnamese government announced in 2012 that they were considering legalizing same-sex marriage. “It was a nice surprise. We expected to have this in 2015,” LGBT rights advocate Le Quang Binh told me in 2012. Although the government ultimately didn’t move forward, it did decriminalize same-sex weddings and now allows same-sex couples to live together.
The caucus was present at the ASEAN People’s Forum over three days in March, where it reached out to other advocacy groups and built alliances. “This way, we educate mainstream groups to see the relevance of SOGIE inclusion in all human rights works of the different sectors of society,” Cristobal explains.
In the run-up to the forum the group had launched the ‘We Are #ASEANtoo’ online campaign, encouraging supporters to post photographs of themselves asserting their inclusion in ASEAN. The campaign received the support of the deputy head of the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR)’s Southeast Asian office, as well as the Indonesian representatives to the ASEAN Intergovernmental Commission on Human Rights and the ASEAN Commission on the Promotion and Protection of the Rights of Women and Children, among others.
But activists may not necessarily be as supportive as one might imagine. In a context where LGBTIQ issues are seen as highly controversial, some groups find the subject of SOGIE far too “contentious.” The caucus’ blog quoted Siriporn Skrobanek, a member of the ASEAN Women’s Caucus as saying, “We would like to include SOGIE, but as if ASEAN will consider LGBT in its considerations!”
Taking up such a battle is seen not just as a lost cause, but a potential danger: advocacy groups could lose whatever influence and support they currently enjoy in their country. SOGIE issues are therefore put on the backburner, and neglected.
This reluctance to include LGBTIQ people in the collective struggle makes the campaign even more difficult; how can activists make governments acknowledge the rights of LGBTIQ people when even other advocacy groups refuse to include them?
“We were concerned that the lack of protection and recognition of LGBTIQ persons in the ASEAN Human Rights Declaration would… leave them vulnerable to systematic violence and discrimination endorsed by the state,” the caucus wrote in a blog post summarizing some of their thoughts on the forum.
Until ASEAN officially recognizes and protects the rights of LGBTIQ people, activists will continue to struggle in their fight against discrimination and prejudice. But if Myo Min Htet and Tin Ko Ko’s joyful wedding has taught us anything, it is that change will come, slowly and surely, with or without official recognition.
 

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Guess which one is erection2011 and nutbush. .
 
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Might be shit to you, to me it is unnatural, but this gay thing is a sign of growing openness in society. It was considered "devious" just one or two generations ago and even viewed as some kind of mental illness. But now is it is getting accepted by mainstream society. There are people who feel strongly about being gay, and to me, as long as they are not persecuted, given same consideration in jobs and education, that's fine. As for getting married, I do not wish to be judgemental, it is up to the rest of society. I don't think caterers mind though.

Cheers!

This is the result of democracy.

All kinds of shits happens now.
 

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Two faggots were visiting a zoo, when they found themselves at the
gorilla cage. The gorilla was sitting there with a huge erection. Unable
to contain himself one of the men reaches in to touch it.
As soon as his arm goes into the cage, the gorilla grabs him, and takes
him into the cage... slams him to the floor and fucks him senseless.
A few days later in hospital the boyfriend visits and asks his partner
if he is hurt...
"Hurt... Hurt... You bet I'm hurt. He hasn't phoned, he hasn't written".
 

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Homosexuality in animals have been detected in dolphins and elephants. Apes, I guess this guy will testify to it now. I am quite certain if the observed the bonobo troops, they might witness gays apes in action, better not get too close though.

Cheers!

Two faggots were visiting a zoo, ....................
 

butoh6050

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Two faggots are living together. Bruce goes out to work while Cyril
stays at home everyday to do the housework.

One day Bruce comes home and finds Cyril with his bum in the fridge.

"What are you doing Cyril?" he asks, to which Cyril replies, "Oh Bruce, I thought you might like something nice and cool to slip into when you came home."
 

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if singapore hasnt recognised it yet, how long will it take other asean countries?

in any case, lots of gay people living here, PRs and / or citizens have made civial unions in countries where it is recognised like siwtzerland..

sut make sure your will is in order, coz never know when karma gonanna take u
 

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My guess is that it is not an issue for Singapore's leadership and will not be until someone in the family or a high ranking minister is directly involved, else it is not a matter for them to be concerned with. I grew up in a homophobic society where if one is gay, better remain in the closet, come out of it, might kena hantam. There was a gay Indian man in my kampong who was openly flirtatious with construction workers and other men around. His father and brothers were ashamed of him and when they were angered by his ways, they'd beat him up. The poor guy kena hantam by family members had no where to go to for protection, neighbours pretended not to know what was happening and he had no friends (that we knew of), when he passed by us, we'd call him names and laugh at him, looking back, we were immature and lacking in human feelings. Hope society is not like that now.

Cheers!

if singapore hasnt recognised it yet, how long will it take other asean countries?..................
 

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Homosexuality in animals have been detected in dolphins and elephants. Apes, I guess this guy will testify to it now. I am quite certain if the observed the bonobo troops, they might witness gays apes in action, better not get too close though.

Cheers!

Can you or somebody provides one or two links to authoritative scientific websites about homosexuality in the animal world?
 

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Can you or somebody provides one or two links to authoritative scientific websites about homosexuality in the animal world?

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Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality?

ARASH FEREYDOONI MARCH 14, 2012
Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world.


Human beings are not the only animals to exhibit homosexual behavior. Photo courtesy of the globalanimal.org.

Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide. For instance, observations indicate that Humboldt, King, Gentoo, and Adélie penguins of the same sex engage in “mating rituals like entwining their necks and vocalizing to one another.” In addition, male giraffes have also been observed engaging in homosexual behavior by rubbing their necks against each others’ bodies while ignoring the females. Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates.

Biologists Nathan W. Bailey and Marlene Zuk from the University of California, Riverside have investigated the evolutionary consequences and implications of same-sex behavior, and their findings demonstrate benefits to what seems to be an evolutionary paradox. For example, their studies of the Laysan albatross show that female-female pairing can increase fitness by taking advantage of the excess of females and shortage of males in the population and provide superior care for offspring. Moreover, same-sex pairing in many species actually alleviates the likelihood of divorce and curtails the pressure on the opposite sex by allowing members to exhibit more flexibility to form partnerships, which in turn strengthens social bonds and reduces competition. Thus, not only do animals exhibit homosexuality, but the existence of this behavior is quite prevalent and may also confer certain evolutionary advantages.
 
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http://listverse.com/2013/04/20/10-animals-that-practice-homosexuality/

This subject never crossed my mind in earlier life. I was born male, raised male, expected to adopt male roles. I viewed gay behavior as "queer." I suppose now with all these media and public calls for gay rights, it needs deeper understanding from the rest of society. I did a google search to answer your request and never thought there'd be so much studies done on the subject. So it is an issue that is being given serious consideration. Prior to this, I only was informed watching nature programmes on TV that dolphins, elephants, and spiders displayed homosexual behaviour, I guess it is more widespread than that.

Cheers!


Can you or somebody provides one or two links to authoritative scientific websites about homosexuality in the animal world?
 
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