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Singapore Ranked 60th for Average Resident Cost of Living by ACI (

beteljuice

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It's just propaganda really. They can't really refute the original survey as its source is credible.

So, the next best thing to do is to come up with 'independent' findings of your own to counter that survey, maybe insinuate that it did not have the 'full picture' of the situation.

It's quite an old and often-used trick when it comes to managing the opinion of the masses.

Not anymore in the era of the Internet.
That they felt compelled to lie again is telling.
As to how they lie and how they all do not understand Internet.

They will die choked by all their fucking lies
 

escher

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Not anymore in the era of the Internet.
That they felt compelled to lie again is telling.
As to how they lie and how they all do not understand Internet.

They will die choked by all their fucking lies


Anyone seen the details of their fucking report?
We all know the PAP fucking lie and lie. We need to see the fucking extent they lie and contort evidence to support their fucking lies.

Let us see the names behind that ACI report. Those will be the people all prepared to lie to us and fuck us at the orders of smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY and PAP and paid big bucks to join them
in the screwing of singaporeans

They must join the dance of collaborators under lamp posts when the time come which will be soon as LKY is going to be a fucking rotting corpse in days or weeks.
 

makapaaa

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[h=2]Dr Tan K G behind study ranking SG 60th in terms of cost of
living
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The PAP has come out all guns blazing to refute Singapore’s
reputation as the world’s most expensive city.

We know that this is not done to convince citizens who are trapped here with
their CPF money held hostage but really for foreigners who may otherwise be
deterred from coming to Singapore.

The task of refuting the EIU report has fallen on a pseudo-academic think
tank called the Asia Competitiveness Institute (ACI) which is really a research
centre in the LKY School of Public Policy which hosts the likes of foreign
Indian academic Parag Khanna who has called for a 10m population and Kishore
Mabubhani who is a staunch critic of democracies.

The ACI yesterday claims that S’pore is ranked 60th in cost of living. Well
the person behind this is none other than its co-director Tan Khee Giap who has
in the past called on Singaporeans to stop complaining so much.

Now the question we all need to ask is: in the midst of rising cost of
living, is the PAP interested in solving the real issue or simply getting
apologists like Tan to try to convince people that Singapore is really fine and
dandy?

If it is convinced that Cost of Living is not an issue, we dare it to stop
giving GST vouchers before the next
elections.

The Alternative
View


Source: www.facebook.com/pages/The-Alternative-View/358759327518739

Editor’s
note:




http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/s-pore-ranked-60th-among/1051700.html

[h=3]S’pore ranked 60th among major cities for average residents’ cost of
living[/h]
(SINGAPORE, 28 Mar): Singapore may be the world’s most expensive city for
expatriates, but the cost of living for the average resident is lower than in
many other cities, a comprehensive study by the Asia Competitiveness Institute
(ACI) showed.

The study is called “Annual
Indices for Average Residents and Expatriates on Cost of Living for World’s
Major 109 Cities: 2005-2012
“.

Singapore ranked 60th among 109 major cities for the average residents’ cost
of living on the ACI rankings — behind Western capitals like New York, Paris and
London, as well as other Asian cities such as Hong Kong and Seoul.

However, the city-state emerged as the most expensive city for expatriates in
2012, largely due to high cost of transport and housing for this category of
people.

The strengthening of the Singapore dollar against the United States and Hong
Kong currencies was another factor.

The indices for expatriates and average residents are very different due to
the divergence in the baskets of goods and services used, said ACI, which was
established in August 2006 as a research centre at the Lee Kuan Yew School of
Public Policy.

Singapore’s cost of living for average residents is comparable to major Asian
cities, with Hong Kong in 58th place, and Seoul at 59th.

For its average residents, Singapore’s lower cost of living is largely due to
education, housing and healthcare, which are cheaper due to government
subsidies.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset

It does not matter who is behind the study as long as the data used and the conclusions drawn are sound. In this case, the study is SPOT ON. Singapore is a relatively cheap place for the locals because the strong Singapore dollar has kept a lid on inflation and reduced the cost of imported goods.

Since pretty much everything has to be imported, the decision to keep the SGD strong is a prudent one.

Singaporeans should be thankful that the PAP is managing the country's finances and monetary policy admirably.
 

steffychun

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[h=2]Dr Tan K G behind study ranking SG 60th in terms of cost of
living
[/h]

dmca_protected_sml_120n.png
PostDateIcon.png
March 29th, 2014 |
PostAuthorIcon.png
Author: Contributions



Capture15.jpg
The PAP has come out all guns blazing to refute Singapore’s
reputation as the world’s most expensive city.

We know that this is not done to convince citizens who are trapped here with
their CPF money held hostage but really for foreigners who may otherwise be
deterred from coming to Singapore.

The task of refuting the EIU report has fallen on a pseudo-academic think
tank called the Asia Competitiveness Institute (ACI) which is really a research
centre in the LKY School of Public Policy which hosts the likes of foreign
Indian academic Parag Khanna who has called for a 10m population and Kishore
Mabubhani who is a staunch critic of democracies.

The ACI yesterday claims that S’pore is ranked 60th in cost of living. Well
the person behind this is none other than its co-director Tan Khee Giap who has
in the past called on Singaporeans to stop complaining so much.

Now the question we all need to ask is: in the midst of rising cost of
living, is the PAP interested in solving the real issue or simply getting
apologists like Tan to try to convince people that Singapore is really fine and
dandy?

If it is convinced that Cost of Living is not an issue, we dare it to stop
giving GST vouchers before the next
elections.

The Alternative
View


Source: www.facebook.com/pages/The-Alternative-View/358759327518739

Editor’s
note:




http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/s-pore-ranked-60th-among/1051700.html

[h=3]S’pore ranked 60th among major cities for average residents’ cost of
living[/h]
(SINGAPORE, 28 Mar): Singapore may be the world’s most expensive city for
expatriates, but the cost of living for the average resident is lower than in
many other cities, a comprehensive study by the Asia Competitiveness Institute
(ACI) showed.

The study is called “Annual
Indices for Average Residents and Expatriates on Cost of Living for World’s
Major 109 Cities: 2005-2012
“.

Singapore ranked 60th among 109 major cities for the average residents’ cost
of living on the ACI rankings — behind Western capitals like New York, Paris and
London, as well as other Asian cities such as Hong Kong and Seoul.

However, the city-state emerged as the most expensive city for expatriates in
2012, largely due to high cost of transport and housing for this category of
people.

The strengthening of the Singapore dollar against the United States and Hong
Kong currencies was another factor.

The indices for expatriates and average residents are very different due to
the divergence in the baskets of goods and services used, said ACI, which was
established in August 2006 as a research centre at the Lee Kuan Yew School of
Public Policy.

Singapore’s cost of living for average residents is comparable to major Asian
cities, with Hong Kong in 58th place, and Seoul at 59th.

For its average residents, Singapore’s lower cost of living is largely due to
education, housing and healthcare, which are cheaper due to government
subsidies.

SG Cost of Living will forever increase
 

Papsmearer

Alfrescian (InfP) - Comp
Generous Asset
Even their report was done from 2005 to 2012.
It does not cover year 2013.
And, its credibility is ???

Yeah, how can NUS have a good international ranking when it pubishes this type of obvious propaganda bullshit? NUS is so easily influenced into doing what the PAP says, not one will believe that its a serious academy of higher learning. What would happen if Obama went to Harvard uni and ask them to come out with a propaganda studying saying the US economy is doing well, and has no problems? Harvard will tell him to fuck off rather than risk their international reputation.
 

chonburifc

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Asset
For its average residents, Singapore’s lower cost of living is largely due to
education, housing and healthcare, which are cheaper due to government
subsidies.

Wah! PAPPIES LAMPAR satu wor!

Due to garberment subsidies, university students have to take out loans or use their parents CPF. Sinkees peasants buying 99 year old pigeonholes have to use their CPF retirement funds. healthcare subsidies are so good that run out of hospital beds.
 

applejuice

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Loyal
It does not matter who is behind the study as long as the data used and the conclusions drawn are sound. In this case, the study is SPOT ON. Singapore is a relatively cheap place for the locals because the strong Singapore dollar has kept a lid on inflation and reduced the cost of imported goods.

Since pretty much everything has to be imported, the decision to keep the SGD strong is a prudent one.

Singaporeans should be thankful that the PAP is managing the country's finances and monetary policy admirably.

What a whole load of bullshit by chief twit.

Surly your Foreign Worker Levy, COE, ERP & stamp duty are not imported.
 

greenies

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Yeah, how can NUS have a good international ranking when it pubishes this type of obvious propaganda bullshit? NUS is so easily influenced into doing what the PAP says, not one will believe that its a serious academy of higher learning. What would happen if Obama went to Harvard uni and ask them to come out with a propaganda studying saying the US economy is doing well, and has no problems? Harvard will tell him to fuck off rather than risk their international reputation.

Our intellects were coached to be obedient in the past and present.
Saw numerous punishments against OB thinkers and are still seeing this kind of attempt now.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
What a whole load of bullshit by chief twit.

Surly your Foreign Worker Levy, COE, ERP & stamp duty are not imported.

Every country has something similar. Punitive fiscal measures are used by all governments to steer the economy and implement policy.

Singapore still remains one of the best places in the world to do business because the government does an excellent job of keeping overheads low.
 

greenies

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Every country has something similar. Punitive fiscal measures are used by all governments to steer the economy and implement policy.

Singapore still remains one of the best places in the world to do business because the government does an excellent job of keeping overheads low.


How can it be... "does an excellent job of keeping overheads low".
In work place, we are seeing more management staff and seniors than the operational staff.
At Gov. level, they keep on creating posts and parachuting elites and scholars.
We are becoming like 200-years old Chinese dynasty, where people support heavily on King's family members and associates who grown larger and larger.
 
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Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
How can it be... "does an excellent job of keeping overheads low".
In work place, we are seeing more management staff and seniors than the operational staff.
At Gov. level, they keep on creating posts and parachuting elites and scholars.
We are becoming like 200-years Chinese dynasty, where people support heavily on King's family members and associates who grown larger and larger.

You can nitpick over minor issues but the facts speak for themselves. Singapore is consistently outperforming the rest of the world so the government must be doing something right.

http://www.weforum.org/news/institu...reasingly-important-competitiveness?news=page

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greenies

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You can nitpick over minor issues but the facts speak for themselves. Singapore is consistently outperforming the rest of the world so the government must be doing something right.

http://www.weforum.org/news/institu...reasingly-important-competitiveness?news=page

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It is merely a business competitive ranking.
Singapore is known to be pro-business and very low business tax rates.
Even we offer 5-10-15-30 years concession tax, which accounts for almost zero rate.

Our growth and prosperity should be measured in citizen welfare and the state of minds.

Are we becoming safer?
Are we becoming more secured?
Are we becoming happier?

Compare our status between 10-years ago and now, we feel and we see that only riches, elites and members are getting better.
The average citizens suffered a lot.
Let me tell you that even manager salary is reduced from about $8-10k to $4-6k at private firms.
Of course, our GIC and associated firms could still offer high salary because they recruit potential members, and if things do not go their way, they easily fire the new recruits.
 
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escher

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Asset
Anyone seen the details of their fucking report?
We all know the PAP fucking lie and lie. We need to see the fucking extent they lie and contort evidence to support their fucking lies.

Let us see the names behind that ACI report. Those will be the people all prepared to lie to us and fuck us at the orders of smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY and PAP and paid big bucks to join them
in the screwing of singaporeans

They must join the dance of collaborators under lamp posts when the time come which will be soon as LKY is going to be a fucking rotting corpse in days or weeks.

It does not matter who is behind the study as long as the data used and the conclusions drawn are sound. In this case, the study is SPOT ON. Singapore is a relatively cheap place for the locals because the strong Singapore dollar has kept a lid on inflation and reduced the cost of imported goods.

Since pretty much everything has to be imported, the decision to keep the SGD strong is a prudent one.

Singaporeans should be thankful that the PAP is managing the country's finances and monetary policy admirably.



It fucking matters.
That fucking bastard Dr Tan K G is helping PAP to hold down singaporeans for the fucking and tiewing and kanning and likely paid $$$$$ from the $$$$$$$$$ stolen from us.
The piano wire will fit Dr Tan neck when the time for dancing under the lamp posts come with the rotting of LKY corpse in days or weeks to come.

And exactly what is in his fucking report? What fucking parameters and what fucking lies did he conjured up?
 

escher

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Asset
It fucking matters.
That fucking bastard Dr Tan K G is helping PAP to hold down singaporeans for the fucking and tiewing and kanning and likely paid $$$$$ from the $$$$$$$$$ stolen from us.
The piano wire will fit Dr Tan neck when the time for dancing under the lamp posts come with the rotting of LKY corpse in days or weeks to come.

And exactly what is in his fucking report? What fucking parameters and what fucking lies did he conjured up?

Dr Tan KG.

Your neck still feeling good?
Will feel good until smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY become a rotting corpse , and a few days after that.

You and other collaborators will then tell us how your neck will feel after you start your dancing under lamp posts
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
It is merely a business competitive ranking.
Singapore is known to be pro-business and very low business tax rates.
Even we offer 5-10-15-30 years concession tax, which accounts for almost zero rate.

Our growth and prosperity should be measured in citizen welfare and the state of minds.

Are we becoming safer?
Are we becoming more secured?
Are we becoming happier?

Compare our status between 10-years ago and now, we feel and we see that only riches, elites and members are getting better.
The average citizens suffered a lot.
Let me tell you that even manager salary is reduced from about $8-10k to $4-6k at private firms.
Of course, our GIC and associated firms could still offer high salary because they recruit potential members, and if things do not go their way, they easily fire the new recruits.

1. Singapore is one of the safest places on earth. Crime is low and there are no natural disasters.

2. Singapore is one of the most secure countries on earth thanks to NS and a huge defense budget.

3. Singaporeans have every reason to be happy. If they aren't, it is because they have ridiculous expectations which are far removed from reality. They should count their blessings instead of constantly being jealous of the success of others.

4. A salary of $4K to 6K is a super salary. Take a look at the following table and you'll realise how lucky Singaporeans are.

RankCountryAverage Wage (USD)
1Luxembourg4,089
2Norway3,678
3Austria3,437
4United States3,263
5United Kingdom3,065
6Belgium3,035
7Sweden3,023
8Ireland2,997
9Finland2,925
10Korea (Republic of)2,903
11France2,886
12Canada2,724
13Germany2,720
14Singapore2,616
15Australia2,610
16Cyprus2,605
17Japan2,522
18Italy2,445
19Iceland2,431
20Spain2,352
21Greece2,300
22New Zealand2,283
23South Africa1,838
24Malta1,808
25Israel1,804
26Czech Republic1,786
27Croatia1,756
28Turkey1,731
29Qatar1,690
30Hong Kong (China)1,545
31Poland1,536
32Slovakia1,385
33Hungary1,374
34Macedonia1,345
35Bosnia & Herzegovina1,338
36Estonia1,267
37Russian Federation1,215
38Jamaica1,135
39Lithuania1,109
40Argentina1,108
41Latvia1,098
42Serbia1,058
43Chile1,021
44Botswana996
45Malaysia961
46Belarus959
47Romania954
48Bahrain917
49Panama831
50Mauritius783
51Brazil778
52Macau (China)758
53Kazakhstan753
54Bulgaria750
55Colombia692
56Ukraine686
57China656
58Mexico609
59Georgia603
60Azerbaijan596
61Egypt548
62Thailand489
63Armenia471
64Dominican Republic462
65Moldova (Republic of)438
66Mongolia415
67Syrian Arab Republic364
68Kyrgyzstan Republic336
69India295
70Philippines279
71Pakistan255
72Tajikistan227


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greenies

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Boss Sam

Your table shows average salary, while I mentioned manager salary of S$4-6k (USD3.5-5.0k).

Also the unhappiness in citizens is not caused by ridiculous expectations.
In fact it is caused by unfair treatment, gov. policies, rules and regulations.

For example: -
1) FTs were seldom punished, but locals are heavily penalized just for very small offences.
2) Allow FTs to recruit their own people at work. Can easily see certain dept. turns into their own village.
3) Allow FTs to own many properties (without asking where those money come from), but locals are tied with HDB regulations.
4) Some definitions of the laws twisted and caused lots of unhappiness, e.g. within and inside, loan and give etc.
 
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LeMans2011

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Hahaha how do they decide on the basket of goods & services consumed by "average" Sinkie?

1) Eat $1.80 chicken rice or $2.50 nasi padang for every meal
2) No teh/kopi, Singapore tap water safe to drink - consume beverage in office since it is free for employees
3) No beehoon for breakfast, no time to eat breakfast anyway
4) If stay within 2km to office - mode of transport is walking. Anything further - ride bicycle (or cheat on bus fares)
5) Buy a $10k HDB flat
6) Shower/pee/poop at public toilets - free (my recommendation for shower: east coast)
7) Use free wifi generously provided by the govt
8) Watch TV at community centre

Based on my estimate above, Sinkie can survive on $500 per head per month.
 
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