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MALAYSIAN Airlines flight en route to China is missing.
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This is very interesting theory. Actually there was a somewhat similar episode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522.
Loss of pressurization, the whole crew concuss, autopilot flew until no fuel, then crash.
In this scenario, the pilots would not be able to communicate but the aircraft can through its transponder and various datalinks. But there was just no communications at all.
Yes but that guy's theory is:
Summary: It’s plausible that a fuselage section near the SATCOM antenna adapter failed, disabling satellite based - GPS, ACARS, and ADS-B/C - communications, and leading to a slow decompression that left all occupants unconscious.
So that would explain it.
his theory sounds like a combination of very unfortunate events...
if so, i hope it was quick and painless...
if so, i hope it was quick and painless...
It still doesnt make sense. A slow decompression would mean that the cabin altitude climbs gradually. At around 10,000 ft cabin altitude the decompression warning will come on. At this altitude everyone except the very ill / weak people will still be fully functional including the pilots.
They would then use their oxygen masks and do their drills which would include deploying the oxygen masks in the passenger cabin. No aircraft loss should result from a slow decompression.
In fact every pilot is trained to handle explosive decompessions and should be able to save themselves, their passengers and the plane unless of course that type of explosive decompression reults in structural failure or loss of controllability of the airplane.
They would then use their oxygen masks and do their drills which would include deploying the oxygen masks in the passenger cabin. No aircraft loss should result from a slow decompression.
In fact every pilot is trained to handle explosive decompessions and should be able to save themselves, their passengers and the plane unless of course that type of explosive decompression reults in structural failure or loss of controllability of the airplane.
It was at night. Everyone would be sleeping, including the pilots, or is it?
But agree that this theory does not account for the radar not picking up the plane, unless it veers off course and away from the radar zone, but then again, when it disappears, the plane was supposed to be on its flight path.....suddenly disappears. Something does not add up.
#BREAKING Vietnam suspends air search for missing Malaysian jet: officials
Agence France Presse are reporting that Vietnam have suspended search operations for the flight until Malaysia clarifies the scope of the search.
Agence France Presse are reporting that Vietnam have suspended search operations for the flight until Malaysia clarifies the scope of the search.
Re: horny cocks in cockpit of MAS - insider story, MUST WATCH!!
1. It is the reason they called it a cockpit.
2. I guess them m&ds cant wait for the 72 virgins..why not fook two on Earth and take the rest in Heaven?
1. It is the reason they called it a cockpit.
2. I guess them m&ds cant wait for the 72 virgins..why not fook two on Earth and take the rest in Heaven?
Re: horny cocks in cockpit of MAS - insider story, MUST WATCH!!
If there's a crash, there would be some bits and pieces of debris left behind.
The plane just vanished from the radar map.
This is exciting, even more so when it happened at a location so close to us.
If there's a crash, there would be some bits and pieces of debris left behind.
The plane just vanished from the radar map.
This is exciting, even more so when it happened at a location so close to us.
Re: Wake up your bloody idea Malaysia!!
Latest spin
Not terrorism, Interpol according to
Latest spin
Not terrorism, Interpol according to
Re: horny cocks in cockpit of MAS - insider story, MUST WATCH!!
The plane ultimately still crash, but the crash site is far far away from its last known location. And probably in an area where there is very little human activity.
Now they are expanding the search into Andaman sea. Maybe they are buying into this theory as well. Also explain why Vietnam is suspending air search.
The plane ultimately still crash, but the crash site is far far away from its last known location. And probably in an area where there is very little human activity.
Now they are expanding the search into Andaman sea. Maybe they are buying into this theory as well. Also explain why Vietnam is suspending air search.
And well they should if they think the Malaysians are not upfront on information. Its a waste of time and resources otherwise. Malaysia should foot the bill for the operations.
China's satellites 'missed best chance' to find missing Malaysia Airlines flight
Sky eyes were on other parts of globe during plane's ill-fated journey
PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 12 March, 2014, 12:17am
UPDATED : Wednesday, 12 March, 2014, 11:48am
Stephen Chen [email protected]
Hampered by poor co-ordination and a meagre staff, China did not immediately exploit the capability of its satellites to search for the missing Malaysian airliner, according to a Chinese scientist.
It was one of several potential problems raised by researchers, who are as frustrated as the public in the search for Malaysia Airlines flight 370.
When the Boeing 777 was en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing last Saturday, no Chinese satellites were observing it, said Dr Chi Tianhe, a researcher in satellite imaging with the Chinese Academy of Sciences who took part in the search.
Several hours after Malaysia Airlines announced that the plane had disappeared, China used its satellites to scour the waters between Vietnam and Malaysia, state media said. They were part of a multinational effort using military equipment. The search has failed to find survivors, wreckage or debris.
"Chinese satellites' real-time surveillance capability will likely be strengthened after this incident," said Chi, a professor with the academy's Institute of Remote Sensing and Digital Earth in Beijing.
Chi said his biggest regret was that while China had enough satellites to monitor a large area around the clock, including the search zone, the job had not been done. Monitoring every bit of land and sea would require a dedicated staff, he added.
The failure of the search has raised questions over its field and strategy, and its multinational co-ordination.
Professor Wu Dong, a satellite remote-sensing expert with the Ocean University of China in Qingdao , said the lack of satellite evidence of the plane suggested that the designated search zones could be wrong.
Professor Xie Tao, an expert in ocean satellite remote-sensing at Nanjing University of Information Science and Technology, said it was possible that the resolution of the satellites doing the search was not high enough, an assertion that Chi disputed.
"The waves would also distort microwave images and make analysis difficult," Xie said. And time was of the essence. "The longer the search takes, the farther the debris would be carried away by currents from the crash site."
For three days, Chinese researchers have employed high-resolution satellite imaging equipment to search for the Boeing aircraft. This has included satellites with many different sensors, including high-resolution optical telescopes, infrared cameras, synthetic aperture radar and microwave detectors.
The search project has also used military satellites with classified technological details. In addition, China has paid overseas commercial satellite companies to use their advanced satellites and to obtain their data.
The satellite equipment allowed researchers to examine specific areas of the sea for wreckage and debris day and night, under all kinds of weather conditions, Chi said.
Chi would not comment as to the size of objects that the satellites could detect but added that the resolution was "definitely high enough for the job".
Some US and Canadian satellites can distinguish an object as small as half a metre in size, but the ocean waves could make precise detection difficult. "If the object is non-metalic, such as plastic, it would be very difficult to spot with radar," Xie said.
While civilian satellites might have difficulty finding debris, military spy satellites should be able to do the job because they are designed to search for very small targets, Wu said.
Chinese warships have prowled the sea using powerful surface radar to detect objects on the sea's surface, and sonar to find underwater wreckage.
Wu said it was possible, judging from the lack of wreckage, that the plane made a successful water landing, but then sank to the ocean floor in one piece.
"But if the crew achieved such a miracle, why didn't they radio for help?" Wu asked. "From a technical point of view, I cannot find a good explanation for the complete disappearance."
The lack of evidence also frustrates Chi. "If such a large plane had fallen in the ocean, it would leave some signs on the surface," he said. "The plane seems to have disappeared completely. To us it is unreasonable."
Malaysia air force chief denies saying lost plane tracked to west
Tue, Mar 11 2014
By Stuart Grudgings
KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysia's air force chief has denied saying military radar tracked a missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner over the Strait of Malacca, adding to the mystery surrounding the fate of flight MH370, which vanished on Saturday with 239 people aboard.
A massive air and sea search now in its fifth day has failed to find any trace of the Boeing 777, and the last 24 hours have seen conflicting statements and reports over what may have happened after it lost contact with air traffic controllers.
Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper on Tuesday quoted Air Force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the plane was last detected by military radar at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca at 2.40 a.m. on Saturday, hundreds of kilometers off course.
"I wish to state that I did not make any such statements," Rodzali said in a statement on Wednesday. The air force chief said he had merely repeated that military radar tracking suggested the plane might have turned back.
A senior military officer who had been briefed on the investigation told Reuters on Tuesday that the aircraft had made a detour to the west after communications with civilian authorities ended.
"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the officer said.
Malaysian authorities have said previously that flight MH370 disappeared around 1.30 a.m., roughly midway between Malaysia's east coast town of Kota Bharu and southern Vietnam, about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing.
The Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels, runs along Malaysia's west coast, while Kota Bharu is on the northeast coast.
After the comments from the officer, a non-military source familiar with the investigations said the reported detour was one of several theories and was being checked.
If the plane had made such a detour it would undermine the theory that it suffered a sudden, catastrophic mechanical failure, as it would mean it flew at least 500 km (350 miles) after its last contact with air traffic control.
A spokesman for the Malaysian prime minister's office said on Wednesday he had not been informed by the military of evidence showing the plane had recrossed the Malay Peninsula to reach the Malacca Strait.
"The people I checked with were not aware of that," spokesman Tengku Sariffuddin Tengku Ahmad told Reuters.
HUGE INTERNATIONAL SEARCH
A huge international search operation has been mostly focused on the shallow waters of the Gulf of Thailand off Malaysia's east coast, although the Strait of Malacca has been included since Sunday.
Navy ships, military aircraft, helicopters, coast guard and civilian vessels from 10 nations have criss-crossed the seas off both coasts of Malaysia without success.
In the absence of any concrete evidence to explain the plane's disappearance, authorities have not ruled out anything. Police have said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew on the plane had personal or psychological problems that might shed light on the mystery, along with the possibility of a hijacking, sabotage or mechanical failure.
"Maybe somebody on the flight has bought a huge sum of insurance, who wants family to gain from it or somebody who has owed somebody so much money, you know, we are looking at all possibilities," Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said at a news conference on Tuesday.
The airline said it was taking seriously a report by a South African woman who said the co-pilot of the missing plane had invited her and a female travelling companion to sit in the cockpit during a flight two years ago, in an apparent breach of security.
"Malaysia Airlines has become aware of the allegations being made against First Officer Fariq Ab Hamid which we take very seriously. We are shocked by these allegations. We have not been able to confirm the validity of the pictures and videos of the alleged incident," the airline said in a statement.
The woman, Jonti Roos, said in an interview with Australia's Channel Nine TV that she and her friend were invited to fly in the cockpit by Fariq and the pilot between Phuket, Thailand, and Kuala Lumpur in December 2011. The TV channel showed pictures of the four apparently in a plane's cockpit.
The Boeing 777 has one of the best safety records of any commercial aircraft in service. Its only previous fatal crash came on July 6 last year when Asiana Airlines Flight 214 struck a seawall on landing in San Francisco, killing three people.
U.S. planemaker Boeing has declined to comment beyond a brief statement saying it was monitoring the situation.
(Additional reporting by Siva Govindasamy, Stuart Grudgings, Raju Gopalakrishnan and Yantoultra Ngui in Kuala Lumpur; Ben Blanchard, Megha Rajagopalan and Adam Rose in Beijing; Nguyen Phuong Linh on Phu Quoc Island, Mai Nguyen and Martin Petty in Hanoi; Robert Birsel and Amy Sawitta Lefevre in Bangkok; Alwyn Scott in New York, Tim Hepher in Paris,; Brian Leonal in Singapore, Mark Hosenball and Ian Simpson in Washington, Johnny Cotton in Lyon, France and Fredrik Dahl in Vienna; Writing by Raju Gopalakrishnan; Editing by Alex Richardson)
Tue, Mar 11 2014
By Stuart Grudgings
KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysia's air force chief has denied saying military radar tracked a missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner over the Strait of Malacca, adding to the mystery surrounding the fate of flight MH370, which vanished on Saturday with 239 people aboard.
A massive air and sea search now in its fifth day has failed to find any trace of the Boeing 777, and the last 24 hours have seen conflicting statements and reports over what may have happened after it lost contact with air traffic controllers.
Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper on Tuesday quoted Air Force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the plane was last detected by military radar at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca at 2.40 a.m. on Saturday, hundreds of kilometers off course.
"I wish to state that I did not make any such statements," Rodzali said in a statement on Wednesday. The air force chief said he had merely repeated that military radar tracking suggested the plane might have turned back.
A senior military officer who had been briefed on the investigation told Reuters on Tuesday that the aircraft had made a detour to the west after communications with civilian authorities ended.
"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the officer said.
Malaysian authorities have said previously that flight MH370 disappeared around 1.30 a.m., roughly midway between Malaysia's east coast town of Kota Bharu and southern Vietnam, about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing.
The Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels, runs along Malaysia's west coast, while Kota Bharu is on the northeast coast.
After the comments from the officer, a non-military source familiar with the investigations said the reported detour was one of several theories and was being checked.
If the plane had made such a detour it would undermine the theory that it suffered a sudden, catastrophic mechanical failure, as it would mean it flew at least 500 km (350 miles) after its last contact with air traffic control.
A spokesman for the Malaysian prime minister's office said on Wednesday he had not been informed by the military of evidence showing the plane had recrossed the Malay Peninsula to reach the Malacca Strait.
"The people I checked with were not aware of that," spokesman Tengku Sariffuddin Tengku Ahmad told Reuters.
HUGE INTERNATIONAL SEARCH
A huge international search operation has been mostly focused on the shallow waters of the Gulf of Thailand off Malaysia's east coast, although the Strait of Malacca has been included since Sunday.
Navy ships, military aircraft, helicopters, coast guard and civilian vessels from 10 nations have criss-crossed the seas off both coasts of Malaysia without success.
In the absence of any concrete evidence to explain the plane's disappearance, authorities have not ruled out anything. Police have said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew on the plane had personal or psychological problems that might shed light on the mystery, along with the possibility of a hijacking, sabotage or mechanical failure.
"Maybe somebody on the flight has bought a huge sum of insurance, who wants family to gain from it or somebody who has owed somebody so much money, you know, we are looking at all possibilities," Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said at a news conference on Tuesday.
The airline said it was taking seriously a report by a South African woman who said the co-pilot of the missing plane had invited her and a female travelling companion to sit in the cockpit during a flight two years ago, in an apparent breach of security.
"Malaysia Airlines has become aware of the allegations being made against First Officer Fariq Ab Hamid which we take very seriously. We are shocked by these allegations. We have not been able to confirm the validity of the pictures and videos of the alleged incident," the airline said in a statement.
The woman, Jonti Roos, said in an interview with Australia's Channel Nine TV that she and her friend were invited to fly in the cockpit by Fariq and the pilot between Phuket, Thailand, and Kuala Lumpur in December 2011. The TV channel showed pictures of the four apparently in a plane's cockpit.
The Boeing 777 has one of the best safety records of any commercial aircraft in service. Its only previous fatal crash came on July 6 last year when Asiana Airlines Flight 214 struck a seawall on landing in San Francisco, killing three people.
U.S. planemaker Boeing has declined to comment beyond a brief statement saying it was monitoring the situation.
(Additional reporting by Siva Govindasamy, Stuart Grudgings, Raju Gopalakrishnan and Yantoultra Ngui in Kuala Lumpur; Ben Blanchard, Megha Rajagopalan and Adam Rose in Beijing; Nguyen Phuong Linh on Phu Quoc Island, Mai Nguyen and Martin Petty in Hanoi; Robert Birsel and Amy Sawitta Lefevre in Bangkok; Alwyn Scott in New York, Tim Hepher in Paris,; Brian Leonal in Singapore, Mark Hosenball and Ian Simpson in Washington, Johnny Cotton in Lyon, France and Fredrik Dahl in Vienna; Writing by Raju Gopalakrishnan; Editing by Alex Richardson)
Shit, it could be anywhere by now??? Anyone searched the North Pole yet!!
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