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MALAYSIAN Airlines flight en route to China is missing.
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4 orange objects spotted!
4 orange objects spotted!
Long search looms for Malaysia jet, families renew protests
By Matt Siegel and Rujun Shen
HMAS STIRLING NAVAL BASE, Australia/KUALA LUMPUR Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:25am EDT
(Reuters) - T he search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 could take years, U.S. Navy officials suggested on Sunday, as search and rescue officials raced to locate the plane's black box recorder days before its batteries are set to die.
Ten ships and as many aircraft are searching a massive area in the Indian Ocean west of Perth, trying to find some trace of the aircraft, which went missing more than three weeks ago and is presumed to have crashed.
The chief of the China Maritime Search and Rescue Center, He Jianzhong, told the Xinhua state news agency no objects linked to the plane had been found on Sunday, and that Chinese vessels would expand their search area.
Numerous objects have been spotted in the two days since Australian authorities moved the search 1,100 km (685 miles) after new analysis of radar and satellite data concluded the Boeing 777 travelled faster and for a shorter distance after vanishing from civilian radar screens on March 8. None has been confirmed as coming from Flight MH370.
U.S. Navy Captain Mark Matthews, who is in charge of the U.S. Towed Pinger Locator (TPL), told journalists at Stirling Naval Base near Perth that the lack of information about where the plane went down seriously hampers the ability to find it.
"Right now the search area is basically the size of the Indian Ocean, which would take an untenable amount of time to search," he said.
"If you compare this to Air France flight 447, we had much better positional information of where that aircraft went into the water," he said, referring to a plane that crashed in 2009 near Brazil and which took more than two years to find.
The U.S. Navy cannot use the pinger locator and other sonar used to listen for the beacons on the aircraft's flight data and cockpit voice recorders until "conclusive visual evidence" of debris is found, U.S. Navy spokesman Commander William Marks told CBS' "Face the Nation" program.
If no location is found, searchers would have to use sonar to slowly and methodically map the bottom of the ocean, he said. "That is an incredibly long process to go through. It is possible, but it could take quite a while," he said.
Among the vessels to join the search is an Australian defense force ship, the Ocean Shield, that has been fitted with a sophisticated U.S. black box locator and an underwater drone.
Australia, which is coordinating the search in the southern Indian Ocean, said it had established a new body to oversee the investigation and issued countries involved in the search a set of protocols to abide by should any wreckage be found.
Malaysia says the plane, which disappeared less than an hour into a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, was likely diverted deliberately. Investigators have determined no apparent motive or other red flags among the 227 passengers or the 12 crew.
WEATHER THREATENS EXPANDED SEARCH
The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) said aircraft from China, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia and the United States were involved in the search on Sunday.
The search has involved unprecedented cooperation between more than two dozen countries and 60 aircraft and ships but has also been hampered by regional rivalries and an apparent reluctance to share potentially crucial information due to security concerns.
Asked if more resources could added to the international effort, U.S. Navy spokesman Marks told CBS, "We have about as many assets out there as we can. You have to wonder if the debris is even out there. If we fly over something, we will see it."
This week, Australia issued a set of rules and guidelines to all parties involved in the search, giving Malaysia authority over the investigation of any debris to be conducted on Australian soil, a spokeswoman at the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade told Reuters.
"Australia intends to bring the wreckage ashore at Perth and hold it securely for the purposes of the Malaysian investigation," the spokeswoman said.
Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Sunday appointed a former chief of Australia's defense forces, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, to lead a new Joint Agency Coordination Centre
(JACC).
The JACC will coordinate communication between all international partners as well as with the families of passengers, many of whom are expected to travel to Perth.
FAMILY PROTESTS
The Malaysian government has come under strong criticism from China, home to more than 150 of the passengers, where relatives of the missing have accused the government of "delays and deception".
On Sunday, dozens of angry relatives of Chinese passengers from Beijing met with Chinese embassy officials in Kuala Lumpur, piling more pressure on the Malaysian government over its handling of the case.
"We arrived here this morning with sorrow and anxiety, because the special envoy from Malaysia, the so called high-level tech team, did not give us any effective information in meetings that took place in three consecutive days," said Jiang Hui, a relative of one of the victims.
"We want the Malaysian government to apologize for giving out confusing information in the past week which caused the delay in the search and rescue effort."
(Additional reporting by Morag MacKinnon and Michael Martina in Perth, Lincoln Feast in Sydney, Paul Carsten and Xihao Jiang in Beijing, Andrea Shalal in Washington; Editing by Dean Yates, Jeremy Laurence and Frances Kerry)
planes are back near the original search area where satellite images reveal large objects and other debris. they found garbage and debris not related to the missing plane in the new search area yesterday after being instructed by kl to abandon old area and proceed 100% to new area.
moral of the story: don't listen to kl; just f*cking ignore the gabra goondus there. :*:
moral of the story: don't listen to kl; just f*cking ignore the gabra goondus there. :*:
never let a plane fly if it contains PRCs.
so the pieces are Pinoy shit?
Never fly in a plane full of PRC's, 99% PRC's I had mentioned this before, some time back, I flew an Air Asia X from Bangkok to SINgapore...99% of the passengers were PRC's men & women, they were on a some kind of chartered tour...1% consisted of me, a few ah mohs , no AH NEHS, & others....20 mins into thee flight these adults "cave people"....behaved like, kindergarten kids on a school vacation.....they talked loudly, clambered all over the seats.....you have to be there to expeerienced what I had see.....so, when you have a plane load of PRC's....you had it! ,maybe the MH370 crew... had enough of them PRC....so they took an emergency diversion...??
MH370: New object sightings fuel hopes as search resumes
By Steve Almasy and KJ Kwon, CNN
March 31, 2014 -- Updated 0054 GMT (0854 HKT)
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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (CNN) -- New hope, more frustration.
As the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 turned up fresh potential clues, dozens of anguished Chinese relatives on Sunday demanded that Malaysia provide them with evidence on the fate of their loved ones aboard the missing Boeing 777.
Ideal weather conditions gave one Australian aircraft crew the opportunity to detect many objects in the water west of Perth.
It spotted four orange items of interest, took photos and sent the coordinates, but Flight Lt. Russell Adams said the crew couldn't determine whether the objects were from the airliner, which officials believe went down in the southern Indian Ocean.
The items were more than 2 meters (6.5 feet) long, he said.
Authorities will analyze the images and then decide whether to send a ship to the debris location.
Adams called the discovery of the four objects one of the "most promising leads" searchers have come across.
The search resumed Monday, with 10 aircraft and 10 boats set to look for signs of the missing plane.
"We are searching a vast area of ocean, and we are working on quite limited information. Nevertheless, the best brains in the world are applying themselves to this task. ... If this mystery is solvable, we will solve it," Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott told reporters Monday.
Speaking from the Royal Australian Air Force base where search teams have been headquartered, Abbott said he wouldn't set a time frame for how long the hunt for the missing plane could take.
"We can keep searching for quite some time to come. We will keep searching for quite some time to come. ... The intensity of our search and the magnitude of our operations is increasing, not decreasing," he said.
Search efforts Sunday ended with no confirmed sightings of debris from the plane, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said.
Objects picked up by ships on Saturday turned out to be fishing equipment and other items, officials said.
'We want truth'
The family members arrived in Kuala Lumpur and held a news conference at their hotel, imploring officials to be more transparent.
"We want evidence, we want truth and we want our family," said Jiang Hui, the families' designated representative. The crowd chanted the same words.
"We are here to call for the following three things," he said. "First, the Malaysian side should provide us with timely and comprehensive evidence and answer the families' questions."
He also asked Malaysia to apologize for releasing confusing information and for announcing on March 24 that the plane had crashed even though there was no "direct evidence."
Relatives wore white T-Shirts with the words " Pray for MH370 ... return home safely." Some wept.
"We are here struck with sadness and urgency," Jiang said. "The meetings recently in China were not fruitful with (Malaysia Airlines) officials."
Mixed messages
Family members have accused Malaysian officials of withholding information since the plane vanished more than three weeks ago.
Of the 239 people aboard the doomed jetliner, 154 were Chinese.
Last week, relatives were told everyone aboard had died. But Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia's acting transportation minister, told reporters Saturday he had not closed the door on the hope that there could be survivors.
Frustrating search
Beijing has publicly slammed Malaysia's efforts to find the Boeing 777, which went missing March 8 on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
And as the frustrating three-week search resumed Monday, China was among the countries scouring the choppy waters of the southern Indian Ocean for signs of the plane.
Ten aircraft were set to fly over the search area about 1,150 miles (1,850 kilometers) west of Perth, Australian officials said.
Ten ships were also involved in the search, including the Australian navy ship Ocean Shield, which was fitted with a "black box" detector and an autonomous underwater vehicle.
On Saturday, crew members aboard a Chinese plane dropped buoys to mark three suspected debris sites, China's state-run CCTV reported. It later said Sunday an orange "suspicious object" spotted by a Chinese plane Saturday turned out to be a dead jellyfish.
Amid the confusion, Malaysia said it has done its best with what it has.
"History will judge us as a country that has been very responsible," Hishammuddin said.
Relatives said they hope to meet the transport minister in Kuala Lumpur. They also asked Malaysia to plan meetings with the various companies involved, including Boeing, the plane's manufacturer.
Race against time
Experts said the clock is ticking.
The batteries on the flight data recorder, commonly referred to as the black box, are designed to last about 30 days. The plane disappeared March 8 -- 22 days ago.
"We certainly have our challenges in front of us," said Cmdr. Mark Matthews of the U.S. Navy.
"What we're trying to find is an acoustic emission from one of the pingers on the flight data recorder (and) the cockpit voice recorder. Typically these last, the batteries last about 30 days, usually they last a little bit longer, and that's what we're trying to find. But what is critical is that the teams that are out there searching for the surface debris, they get good position data on that and they feed it back to the oceanographers, to help us determine a probable point of impact for where the aircraft went in."
An American pinger locator and undersea search equipment were loaded onto the Ocean Shield. The ship is set to depart by Monday morning, and will take up to three days to reach the search area.
U.S. Navy Cmdr. William Marks told CNN's "State of the Union" that his team really needs a conclusive piece of debris to narrow down the search area, due to the range of the pinger locator.
"We have to be careful not to send it in the wrong place, but we also wanted to get it out there as close as we can to what we believe is the right place," he told CNN's Candy Crowley.
He said if the batteries on the recorders aboard the missing plane run out, the search would require side-scan sonar, one of which has been loaded on a search ship.
"But like I said, without good visual confirmation of debris, which we really have not had yet, it is tough to even go in the general direction," he said.
'They're still alive'
In Beijing on Saturday, some of the relatives of the missing vented their anguish in the streets.
"They're all still alive, my son and everyone on board!" yelled Wen Wancheng, 63, whose only son was among the passengers. "The plane is still there, too! They're hiding it."
He held aloft a banner that read: "Son, Mom and Dad's hearts are torn to pieces. Come home soon!"
Relatives implored Hishammuddin to redouble efforts to find the plane.
"What they want is a commitment on our part to continue the search, and that I have given," Hishammuddin said. "For me, as the minister responsible, this is the hardest part of my life, at the moment," he told reporters.
"Miracles do happen, remote or otherwise, and that is the hope that the families want me to convey -- not only to the Malaysian government, MAS (Malaysia Airlines), but also to the world at large," he said.
Sea objects
The latest data analysis shows Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ended up in the southern Indian Ocean.
But officials have offered different assessments of exactly where it could have gone down.
Investigators shifted the search area Friday after concluding that the plane had been traveling faster and burning fuel faster than they previously had thought.
The new search area is closer to Australia's coast, so it takes less time to reach, meaning more area can be searched. It's also marked by calmer waters.
Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Black boxes must be found by April before they stop emitting locator pings
The Australian Prime Minister said on Monday that crews are committed to doing "whatever [they] reasonably can"
Kashmira Gander
Monday 31 March 2014
Crews searching for Missing Flight MH370 have around two weeks to find the aircraft’s pair of black boxes before they stop emitting locator pings.
The boxes, designed to 'ping' for at least 30 days, contain sounds recorded in the cockpit and data on the plane's performance and flight path that could help answer why it diverted sharply west from its overnight flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing on 8 March.
An Australian warship, The Ocean Shield, was carrying a US device that detects "pings" from the flight recorders, and was expected to leave Perth on Monday for the search zone - a trip that will take three to four days.
The Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which is coordinating the search, said it would first conduct sea trials afternoon to test the search equipment on board.
As the deadline approaches, Australia's Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on Monday: "This is an extraordinarily difficult exercise.
"We are searching a vast area of ocean and we are working on quite limited information," Abbott said, adding that world-leading experts and all the latest technological is being applied to the task.
He continued: "until we locate some actual wreckage from the aircraft and then do the regression analysis that might tell us where the aircraft went into the ocean. If this mystery is solvable, we will solve it," he said.
"We owe it to everyone to do whatever we reasonably can and we can keep searching for quite some time to come." he added.
On Monday, ten planes were headed to the search area around 1,850 kilometers (1,150 miles) west of Australia, where 10 ships were already scouring for wreckage.
Around 100 personnel in the air and 1,000 sailors were involved in Monday's hunt, but their search may be hindered by low clouds and rain.
After several days of searching in the area, neither ships nor aircraft have found debris that can be linked to the flight, officials say.
Since the aircraft disappeared in early March, experts have sifted through radar and satellite data, and gradually moved the hunt from seas off of Vietnam, to areas west of Malaysia and Indonesia, and then to several areas west of Australia.
Former Australian Defense Chief Angus Houston is tasked with heading the new Joint Agency Coordination Center, and from Monday which will oversee communication with international agencies involved in the search,
The Perth-based center will position Australia to shoulder more of Malaysia's coordination responsibilities as the search continues indefinitely.
He will also play a prime coordination role when victims' families travel to Australia in the weeks ahead.
The search area remains vast, so investigators are hoping to first find debris floating on the ocean surface that will help them calculate where the plane crashed into the water.
Meanwhile, several dozen Chinese relatives of Flight 370 passengers visited a Buddhist temple near Kuala Lumpur on Monday to pray for their loved ones, following a text sent by the Malaysian authorities to passengers' family members on 24 March saying there was no hope that anyone survived.
"You are not alone," one nun told the congregation, adding: "you have the whole world's love, including Malaysia's."
Additional reporting by AP
Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Black boxes must be found by April before they stop emitting locator pings
The Australian Prime Minister said on Monday that crews are committed to doing "whatever [they] reasonably can"
Kashmira Gander
Monday 31 March 2014
Crews searching for Missing Flight MH370 have around two weeks to find the aircraft’s pair of black boxes before they stop emitting locator pings.
The boxes, designed to 'ping' for at least 30 days, contain sounds recorded in the cockpit and data on the plane's performance and flight path that could help answer why it diverted sharply west from its overnight flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing on 8 March.
An Australian warship, The Ocean Shield, was carrying a US device that detects "pings" from the flight recorders, and was expected to leave Perth on Monday for the search zone - a trip that will take three to four days.
The Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which is coordinating the search, said it would first conduct sea trials afternoon to test the search equipment on board.
As the deadline approaches, Australia's Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on Monday: "This is an extraordinarily difficult exercise.
"We are searching a vast area of ocean and we are working on quite limited information," Abbott said, adding that world-leading experts and all the latest technological is being applied to the task.
He continued: "until we locate some actual wreckage from the aircraft and then do the regression analysis that might tell us where the aircraft went into the ocean. If this mystery is solvable, we will solve it," he said.
"We owe it to everyone to do whatever we reasonably can and we can keep searching for quite some time to come." he added.
On Monday, ten planes were headed to the search area around 1,850 kilometers (1,150 miles) west of Australia, where 10 ships were already scouring for wreckage.
Around 100 personnel in the air and 1,000 sailors were involved in Monday's hunt, but their search may be hindered by low clouds and rain.
After several days of searching in the area, neither ships nor aircraft have found debris that can be linked to the flight, officials say.
Since the aircraft disappeared in early March, experts have sifted through radar and satellite data, and gradually moved the hunt from seas off of Vietnam, to areas west of Malaysia and Indonesia, and then to several areas west of Australia.
Former Australian Defense Chief Angus Houston is tasked with heading the new Joint Agency Coordination Center, and from Monday which will oversee communication with international agencies involved in the search,
The Perth-based center will position Australia to shoulder more of Malaysia's coordination responsibilities as the search continues indefinitely.
He will also play a prime coordination role when victims' families travel to Australia in the weeks ahead.
The search area remains vast, so investigators are hoping to first find debris floating on the ocean surface that will help them calculate where the plane crashed into the water.
Meanwhile, several dozen Chinese relatives of Flight 370 passengers visited a Buddhist temple near Kuala Lumpur on Monday to pray for their loved ones, following a text sent by the Malaysian authorities to passengers' family members on 24 March saying there was no hope that anyone survived.
"You are not alone," one nun told the congregation, adding: "you have the whole world's love, including Malaysia's."
Additional reporting by AP
I thought communist PRCs aren't allowed religion? Yet they can go to a Buddhist temple?
Religion is permissible in China as long as the Commie govt approves of it.
Falungong is not approved. Underground churches and Catholic churches not approved, only the state-registered Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association is allowed.
https://twitter.com/H2OComms/status/450582330474651648
They promise full inquiry at all levels. Better than Sinkie's COI?
They promise full inquiry at all levels. Better than Sinkie's COI?
First, you don't know your own Chinese history. Next, you are absolutely clueless about colonialism and what it is about. And now, you show your abysmal stupidly by demonstrating that you do not have a shred of idea that countries are nothing more than geo-political constructs. The formation of countries do not necessarily reflect traditional land ownership or the acceptance of the traditional land owners of that geo-political construct. Hence, the conflicts, civil wars, fights and bloodshed around the world.
The ongoing Palestinian-Israeli conflict which has been going on for almost a hundred years since the 19th century is one staring you right in your face if you want one example of this. And until 2009, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam fighting to create an independent Tamil State in the north of Sri Lanka. The newest example is Crimea. First, part of Ukraine. Now it is Russian.
An example closer for you and which you, as a slit-eyed, slant-eyed Chink should know better because it involves your country China, is the issue of Taiwan. Taiwan wants to be recognised as a separate geo-political construct that is called a country. It calls itself the "Republic of China". Your country, China, rightfully says no because Taiwan is Chinese land and is deemed to be a province of the People's Republic of China .
Malaysia's kicking Singapore out of that geo-political construct called Malaysia has no bearing on the ownership of us Malays of our land, our Tanah Melayu.
I have tried to simplify the concepts for you without having to use pigtails, rickshaws, trishaws, bowls and chopsticks as examples. So, I hope you are able to get it.
As I said, typing the world "sold" in bold and in large fonts does not bolster your case. It simply makes you look acutely stupid. Those large fonts you used are the equivalent of empty vessels.
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