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PAP government should be fined for every major administrative lapse

Confuseous

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Written by Ng E-Jay
10 January 2014

No thanks to the PAP government, Singapore has over the years developed a notorious reputation for being a “Fine City” — a city where people are slapped with financial penalties for a wide range of anti-social behaviour including chewing gum, spitting, and littering. To be sure, society must evolve to embrace good conduct and good manners. Let me state categorically that I support the punishment of people who repeatedly indulge in crass or unhygienic practices.

However, the high-handedness of the PAP government has created a negative image of Singapore. People know Singapore for being a tightly-controlled authoritarian nation, even if they have benefitted from the economic fruits our country has produced. People still call Singapore a “nanny state” even if our economic growth has made many of the elite immensely rich (the lower income have NOT enjoyed our economic prosperity). There is the pervasive, unshakable sense that underlying all the wealth and glitz associated with Singapore, crude and backward authoritarianism and oppression is still used by the ruling party to keep the populace in line as if we were but a bunch of farm animals.

It is time the government lead by example. If public transport companies are to be fined by LTA for service lapses, then ministries and statutory boards must also be fined for administrative lapses.

If the citizens of this country are fined for such a broad range of behaviour, then surely the government must also pay a financial penalty if they fail to meet basic expectations or fail to live up to their mandate.

The PAP government should be fined for major administrative lapses that occur in the ministries, in the statutory boards, and in the civil service. The government must also pay the price if senior officials or political figures commit major blunders in either their personal or public life. The fines must be comparable to the amount of money locked up in our CPF accounts.

The relevant ministries, statutory boards, or branches of the civil service should pay a million dollar fine if any of the following occur:
◾Major administrative lapses such as failure to submit proper accounting records to the Accountant General each year, or submitting record that show significant discrepancies in the accounts.
◾Security lapses such as allowing prisoners, detainees, or persons held in police custody to escape (Mas Selamat, for example)
◾Constructing and building poorly designed expressways that lead to massive jams during peak hours (the MCE, for example)
◾$50,000 fine for EVERY COUPLE THAT FAILS TO GET A BTO FLAT WITHIN THREE YEARS OF APPLICATION
◾Miscommunication by the NEA or other government bodies through emails or other media resulting in town councils failing to perform ceiling cleaning at hawker centres
◾$5 million dollar fine for each civil servant of superscale rank and above found guilty of committing fraud or engaging in corrupt practices in his line of work.
◾$20,000 dollar fine imposed on NEA for every person who contracts dengue fever.

The money raised from all these fines will go into an independently-managed account that will be used to fund additional public assistance schemes for the homeless and the aged who have no one to care for them. The funds will also be used to enhance our social safety nets by providing additional GST offset packages for the lower-income as well as retrenchment allowances should a low-income Singaporean be retrenched from his job due to factors other than his personal lack of ability or commitment.

- http://www.sgpolitics.net/?p=8635
 

AhMeng

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PAP still earning millions...pay cut was a joke...fine? They will tell you to fuck off!
 

Leongsam

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If you fine a government, the fine is debited from the general fund and is then immediately credited so the net loss/gain is a big fat zero no matter what sort of fancy accounting is done. Putting it in some fund with a different name changes nothing.

This Ng character is a real moron.
 

winnipegjets

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Since the PAP claim to be the best government, then when it fails to live up to that claim, it should be penalized heavily. Halving their pension for first infraction. Second infraction would lead to confiscating their pension. Third infraction would require them to repay their bonus and salary for the entire term. Fourth infraction would lead to detention without trial for 5 years.

If the PAP will do that, it gets my vote.
 

Leongsam

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Since the PAP claim to be the best government, then when it fails to live up to that claim, it should be penalized heavily. Halving their pension for first infraction. Second infraction would lead to confiscating their pension. Third infraction would require them to repay their bonus and salary for the entire term. Fourth infraction would lead to detention without trial for 5 years.

If the PAP will do that, it gets my vote.

If you penalise them if they fail it will be only fair that they get a bonus when they succeed.

Since the PAP gets it right far more often than it gets things wrong, they deserve their multi million dollar salaries as a reward for all the good things they have done for the country.
 

tyudm

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If you penalise them if they fail it will be only fair that they get a bonus when they succeed.

Since the PAP gets it right far more often than it gets things wrong, they deserve their multi million dollar salaries as a reward for all the good things they have done for the country.

So every citizens who did it right also get bonus?
 

tanwahp

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If you fine a government, the fine is debited from the general fund and is then immediately credited so the net loss/gain is a big fat zero no matter what sort of fancy accounting is done. Putting it in some fund with a different name changes nothing.

This Ng character is a real moron.

Fine the government and the fine goes back to the government, so there is no point. But he has a good suggestion.

Have a national fund be set up for fines to go into of which % has to be used for GST credits, wage credits, Singapore shares etc.
 
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tonychat

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People will not learn to be gracious if you used punishment, like paying a fine.

People will only learn graciousness from gracious behaviour..paying a fine is not gracious..it will only magnified sinkieness.
 

tyudm

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Not forgetting this mother fucking garment rules with fear for the fact that 60% are balless
 

CheeByeKiaTonyChat

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People will not learn to be gracious if you used punishment, like paying a fine.

People will only learn graciousness from gracious behaviour..paying a fine is not gracious..it will only magnified sinkieness.

Fucktard,

If you are fined $1 everytime something stupid come outs from your mouth, you would be a bankrupt in no time. :oIo::oIo:

Fucktard tonychat = egg murderer = fake vegan = truly fucktard hypocrite = umno dog. :oIo:
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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Written by Ng E-Jay
10 January 2014

No thanks to the PAP government, Singapore has over the years developed a notorious reputation for being a “Fine City” — a city where people are slapped with financial penalties for a wide range of anti-social behaviour including chewing gum, spitting, and littering. To be sure, society must evolve to embrace good conduct and good manners. Let me state categorically that I support the punishment of people who repeatedly indulge in crass or unhygienic practices.

However, the high-handedness of the PAP government has created a negative image of Singapore. People know Singapore for being a tightly-controlled authoritarian nation, even if they have benefitted from the economic fruits our country has produced. People still call Singapore a “nanny state” even if our economic growth has made many of the elite immensely rich (the lower income have NOT enjoyed our economic prosperity). There is the pervasive, unshakable sense that underlying all the wealth and glitz associated with Singapore, crude and backward authoritarianism and oppression is still used by the ruling party to keep the populace in line as if we were but a bunch of farm animals.

It is time the government lead by example. If public transport companies are to be fined by LTA for service lapses, then ministries and statutory boards must also be fined for administrative lapses.

If the citizens of this country are fined for such a broad range of behaviour, then surely the government must also pay a financial penalty if they fail to meet basic expectations or fail to live up to their mandate.

The PAP government should be fined for major administrative lapses that occur in the ministries, in the statutory boards, and in the civil service. The government must also pay the price if senior officials or political figures commit major blunders in either their personal or public life. The fines must be comparable to the amount of money locked up in our CPF accounts.

The relevant ministries, statutory boards, or branches of the civil service should pay a million dollar fine if any of the following occur:
◾Major administrative lapses such as failure to submit proper accounting records to the Accountant General each year, or submitting record that show significant discrepancies in the accounts.
◾Security lapses such as allowing prisoners, detainees, or persons held in police custody to escape (Mas Selamat, for example)
◾Constructing and building poorly designed expressways that lead to massive jams during peak hours (the MCE, for example)
◾$50,000 fine for EVERY COUPLE THAT FAILS TO GET A BTO FLAT WITHIN THREE YEARS OF APPLICATION
◾Miscommunication by the NEA or other government bodies through emails or other media resulting in town councils failing to perform ceiling cleaning at hawker centres
◾$5 million dollar fine for each civil servant of superscale rank and above found guilty of committing fraud or engaging in corrupt practices in his line of work.
◾$20,000 dollar fine imposed on NEA for every person who contracts dengue fever.

The money raised from all these fines will go into an independently-managed account that will be used to fund additional public assistance schemes for the homeless and the aged who have no one to care for them. The funds will also be used to enhance our social safety nets by providing additional GST offset packages for the lower-income as well as retrenchment allowances should a low-income Singaporean be retrenched from his job due to factors other than his personal lack of ability or commitment.

- http://www.sgpolitics.net/?p=8635

You pathetic 60% scum of shit expect the ministries to pay a fine. So what if the ministries pay a fine. The idiot ministers and scholars (18 year old A Level high flyers) still get their million dollar salaries.

Your mother's biggest mistake in life is to give birth to a idiot like you. We can only hope that your father do the right thing and burn you alive at the stake. :eek:

brainless idiots like you should be part of the PAPzis because your stupidity is exactly on their level. You should be kicked out from the alternative parties and their supporters. You are worse than shit on a stick.
 

The_Hypocrite

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I think the key word is responsibility n be made responsible n held accountable. No more caught off guard etc etc. They r paid enough w benefits many can only dream of. So they have no excuses not to get their act*together n get things done right for the betterment of.the people.
 
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zeddy

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Absolutely silly.. The money collected from the fines will all end up inside their pockets at the end of the day..
 

Confuseous

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Absolutely silly.. The money collected from the fines will all end up inside their pockets at the end of the day..

From the last paragraph by Ng E Jay,

The money raised from all these fines will go into an independently-managed account that will be used to fund additional public assistance schemes for the homeless and the aged who have no one to care for them. The funds will also be used to enhance our social safety nets by providing additional GST offset packages for the lower-income as well as retrenchment allowances should a low-income Singaporean be retrenched from his job due to factors other than his personal lack of ability or commitment.
 

zeddy

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From the last paragraph by Ng E Jay,

The money raised from all these fines will go into an independently-managed account that will be used to fund additional public assistance schemes for the homeless and the aged who have no one to care for them. The funds will also be used to enhance our social safety nets by providing additional GST offset packages for the lower-income as well as retrenchment allowances should a low-income Singaporean be retrenched from his job due to factors other than his personal lack of ability or commitment.

With due respect to Mr Ng its a far fetched fantasy from him no matter how noble his intentions is.. The Pappy Scums as Masters of this island will never approve of this idea..

Vote those Scums out first and only then can we discuss all the welfare benefits that can be implemented for needy S'poreans..

That should be the main priority..
 
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