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Fare hike proposals submitted: PTC. 60%, You Fxxkin Did It AGAIN!

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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/fare-hike-proposals-submitted--ptc-105820955.html

[h=1]Fare hike proposals submitted: PTC[/h]<CITE class="byline vcard">By Yahoo! Singapore | Yahoo Newsroom – <ABBR title=2013-12-19T10:58:20Z>1 hour 5 minutes ago</ABBR></CITE>



  • AFP News/Roslan Rahman - Commuters ride on the Singapore Mass Rapid transit (SMRT) train in Singapore on January 12, 2010


Singapore's two local operators of bus and train services have applied to raise fares next year.

The Public Transport Council (PTC) confirmed today that SBS Transit and SMRT have submitted applications to do so – the council will announce a decision in the first quarter of next year.

In a statement, SBS transit said, "SBS Transit continues to face significant cost pressures despite increased efforts to lower costs and increase productivity."

The fare revision exercise was announced last month and operators have until today to submit their applications for fare hikes.
 

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Leo • <ABBR>33 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse
  • If PTC is what its name meant it to be,and the reason why it even exist,it will reject the Price Hike Proposal. Unless PTC no longer serve the public but MAINLY for the profit of the enterprise of multi-million dollar companies.

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  • <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>Martino • <ABBR>1 minute 21 seconds ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    People who usually travel on public transport are the poor and the working class. The transport companies are publicly listed and make millions every year for it's share holders. Don't they have any shame that their greed is robbing the peasants? Yet the government choose to support the price hike.... More
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  • <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>John • <ABBR>26 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    To EVERYONE in this Website , Especially PAP , Opposition Parties , All Singaporean ,

    “ Treat Singaporean people as Stray Dogs & Stray Cats that can kick around here & there when see fit & DON’T FEEL PAINFUL OF IT AT ALL “.... More
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    <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>Greasly • <ABBR>52 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    yes, it is a big fat hope that PTC will reject it.
    what is amusing has been the fact that fare hikes seemed more the initiatives of the transport ministry than that of the operator as can how lui tuck yew has "worked" on it with his hints since early this year.​
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    <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>James Song • <ABBR>14 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    Since SBS Transit and SMRT are always facing cost pressure year after year, may I suggest they close down for goodness sake. It's a blessing for everyone. Other private transport companies can't wait to take over their duopoly and make handsome profits while doing a better job. Total absurdity from... More
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    <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>Ng • <ABBR>49 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    Go go lah and increase the fares lah ' Mei Liang Sin' ??? earning less, all are messengers fork, before that earning good paying good dividend to shareholders... one thing not right are why not cuts the high paying top leader and their directors first with lesser bonuses for year end. Thanks.​
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    <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>ByRight • <ABBR>35 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    Our Coverment had yet to announce what measures or procedures have been agreed upon with both PTOs on their return of the $1.1Billion BSEP provided when they have profit ?
    Annual reports for year 2013 is still not out yet, so there is no reason to approve Raise Fare until both 2012 and 2013 are... More
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    <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>SIN • <ABBR>55 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    Same old stories is to raise and raise.
    Our salary still remain in earlier 1990.​
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    <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>thethethe • <ABBR>31 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    Our tax-payer $ had pump in by our stupid Gov't yet you still asking for fare hike ?
    Dun gang with the white monkeys and keep fool / bully us SINGAPOREANS.​
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    <CITE class=ugccmt-comment-meta>GreenHornet • <ABBR>45 minutes ago</ABBR> Report Abuse</CITE>
    To be fair, PTC must make up of those who takes public transport daily...​
 

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From Ravi Philemon's blog: http://www.raviphilemon.net/2013/12/fare-hike-for-transport-early-next-year.html

[h=3]Fare hike for transport early next year?[/h]

"</SPAN></SPAN>From 2006 to 2013...in the last seven years do you know how much our transport fares
have increased? 0.3%. It has almost remained the same. Even though it increased for some years, during the 2008 financial crisis, it was reduced. In the past year, there was no change in the fare." - Minister without Portfolio, Mr S Iswaran in aTamil programme in Vasantham (http://video.xin.msn.com/watch/video/episode-10/2b1whkfhz)​
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1990: </SPAN>BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>10 cents increase in non air-con fares generally.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>5 to 10 cents increase in air-con fares with no change to the minimum (60 cents) and maximum fares ($1.20).</SPAN>


1994</SPAN>:</SPAN> BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>Extension of the maximum bus fare by another fare stage (over 14.4 km), to $1.00 and $1.30 for non air-con and air-con services respectively (equivalent to a 10 cents increase)</SPAN>


1995 : </SPAN>BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>Extension of the maximum bus fare by another fare stage (over 18.4 km) to $1.10 and $1.40 for non air-con and air-con services respectively (equivalent to a 10 cents increase).</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>5 cents increase in feeder fares and industrial fares to 30 cents and 45 cents respectively, with the corresponding introduction of a 5 cents transfer rebate for feeder buses.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>$2 increase in concession stamps prices for tertiary students, NS men and SBS shareholders.</SPAN>


1997 : </SPAN>BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>5 cents increase across the board for non air-con services on farecard fares. No change for air-con farecard fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>10 cents increase across the board for air-con and non air-con services on cash fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>Conversion of flat fare to distance-related fares for industrial bus services.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>$3- $5 increase in non air-con bus concession stamp prices.</SPAN>


1999 : </SPAN>NEW FARES FOR BUKIT PANJANG LRT</SPAN>
Similar to fares on existing RTS lines, distance-related fares were adopted for Bukit Panjang LRT.</SPAN>


2000:</SPAN> BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>10 cents increase in adult feeder bus fares (cash and farecard) with a corresponding increase in the feeder transfer rebate by 10 cents (from 5 cents to 15 cents).</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>5 cents increase in child/student feeder bus fares (cash and farecard) with a 10 cents increase in the feeder transfer rebate (from 5 cents to 15 cents).</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>Extension of the maximum fare by another fare band (over 23.5 km) to $1.30 and $1.60 for non air-con and air-con services respectively for cash fares, and $1.25 and $1.50 for non air-con and air-con services respectively for farecard fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>Addition of 2 fare bands to the fare structure of Jurong industrial bus services (maximum fare was increased by 20 cents).</SPAN>


2000:</SPAN> LIGHT RAPID TRANSIT (LRT) SINGLE TRIP FARE</SPAN></SPAN>
10 cents increase in the LRT Single Trip Ticket adult fares (the new minimum became 80 cents while new maximum was $1.00). No change in adult farecard fares (minimum was 60 cents and maximum was 80 cents).</SPAN>


2001 :</SPAN> BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>10 cents increase in feeder bus fares with corresponding increase in transfer rebates by 10 cents (feeder bus transfer rebate became 25 cents, the same as the transfer rebate involving non-feeder bus services).</SPAN>


2002:</SPAN> BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>3 cents increase in adult EZ-link card fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>5 cents increase in adult farecard fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>10 cents increase in adult cash fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>50 cents increase in concession stamp prices for primary/secondary students.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>$2 increase in concession stamp prices for tertiary students.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>$3 increase in concession stamp prices for NS men.</SPAN>


2003:</SPAN> NEW FARES FOR NORTH EAST LINE (NEL)</SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>Differentiated fares for the NEL at 5 cents to 25 cents higher than the existing RTS fares, or an average of 16.5 cents more.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>Fares for child/student/NS men concessions remained the same as that for the existing RTS lines.</SPAN>


2005 :</SPAN> BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>1-2 cents increase in adult EZ-link card fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>10 cents increase in adult cash fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>1 cent increase in senior citizen EZ-Link card fares and 10 cents increase in senior citizen cash fares.</SPAN>


2006 :</SPAN> BUS FARE REVISION</SPAN></SPAN>
§ </SPAN>1-3 cents increase in adult EZ-link card fares.</SPAN>
§ </SPAN>1 cent increase in senior citizen EZ-Link card fares.</SPAN>


2007</SPAN> : BUS FARE REVISION[ii]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
· </SPAN>1.8% fare adjustment on bus fares only. Bus fares go up by 1 to 2 cents</SPAN>


2008</SPAN> : TRANSPORT FARE HIKE[iii]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
· </SPAN>An average 0.6% fare adjustment on bus and train fares</SPAN>


2009</SPAN> : TRANSPORT FARE REBATE[iv]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
· </SPAN>Government grants concessions and rebates on transport-related taxes and fees, including 30% road-tax rebates[v]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
· </SPAN>Public Transport operators decided to pass on some savings to commuters and did not apply for fare adjustments</SPAN>
· </SPAN>Fare rebate and an increase in transfer rebate of up to 4.6%[vi]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>


2010</SPAN> : DISTANCE BASED FARES IMPLEMENTED</SPAN>
· </SPAN>Fares increase by 0.5% - 1%</SPAN>
· </SPAN>Trips with transfers cheaper than single trips[vii]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>


2011</SPAN> : TRANSPORT FARE HIKE</SPAN>
· </SPAN>Fares increase by 1%[viii]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>


2012</SPAN> : NO FARE REVISIONS[ix]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
· </SPAN>Government budgets $1.1 billion - $280 million budgeted for the purchase of the 550 buses over next 5 years, and $820 million to cover the net operating costs of public transport operators over 10 years</SPAN>[x]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>


2013</SPAN> : FARES MAY INCREASE</SPAN>
· </SPAN>Public Transport Operators to apply for fare hike [xi]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> by 19 Dec 2013</SPAN>


Year</SPAN>
Description</SPAN>
Fare</SPAN>
Description</SPAN>
Fare</SPAN>
1990</SPAN>
Lowest adult fare by bus</SPAN>
$0.60</SPAN>
Highest adult fare by bus</SPAN>
$1.20</SPAN>
2013</SPAN>
Lowest adult fare by bus</SPAN>
$0.73</SPAN>
Highest adult fare by bus</SPAN>
$1.94[xii]</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>




Increase</SPAN>
22%</SPAN>
Increase</SPAN>
62%</SPAN>

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The commuters pay taxes to the government, direct & indirect; the government gave grant to the transport providers, who now, in return will raise their fares. So, the commuters is effectively, "FARKING THEMSELVES"...:biggrin:
 

makapaaa

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Remember the FAP Traitors just threw $1.1B at AssMRT and AssBAss:

http://www.mof.gov.sg/budget_2012/rus7.html

[h=1]$1.1 BILLION PACKAGE TO EXPAND BUS CAPACITY – WHO ARE WE SUBSIDISING?[/h]
125. Finally, Mr Speaker Sir, we come to the issue of why the government is taking the extraordinary step of spending $1.1 billion over 10 years to increase bus capacity.

126. Several MPs have asked about this, including Ms Amy Khor, Mr Seng Han Thong, Mr Lim Biow Chuan and Mr Pritam Singh. There are in particular questions on whether this is a subsidy to the transport operators and their shareholders.

127. The Government considered its investment to expand bus capacity very carefully. This was not a normal budgetary decision. It is an important step, to reduce waiting times and crowdedness that Singaporeans experience daily as they take public buses.

128. Let me start by explaining what the Public Transport Operators (PTOs) themselves are responsible for. The PTOs are required to expand their fleets, their bus fleets to cater to the growth in passenger numbers, as well as to ensure that they meet the service levels that are mandated under the existing regulatory framework. This is why, in addition to operating the existing bus fleet of about 4000 buses, they will have to buy 250 additional buses to achieve this; and they will fund this on their own.

129. The Government is putting $1.1 billion into the bus system in order to step up bus service levels beyond the current service standards that are required of the PTOs.


  • It will increase bus capacity on existing heavily-utilised routes making them less crowded and giving commuters a more pleasant journey.
  • Almost all feeder buses will run every 10 minutes or less - for two hours in the morning, and the evening, two-hour peak periods instead of the current one-hour peak period as under the current service level requirements.
  • Commuters on existing routes will thus benefit both from shorter waiting times and less crowded bus journeys.
  • And a number of new bus services, in addition to existing bus services, will be added to improve connectivity, and provide commuters with more public transport choices.
  • So these are improvements that commuters have been hoping for and waiting for.
130. As a condition for the Government’s investment, the PTOs will have to deliver on these service level improvements, which go beyond existing regulatory requirements.

131. We cannot simply mandate that the PTOs add these 550 buses to improve service levels. First, because it goes significantly beyond the current service levels in the current regulatory framework. Second, the PTO’s bus operations are already running operating losses, and the 550 additional buses in particular are projected to be a loss-making operation. The cost of acquiring and running the 550 buses is beyond what can be recovered from revenues in running the buses.
132. Take the example of improving the frequency of feeder bus services. Increasing the number of buses to make this possible will shorten waiting times but will add little to revenues, since the total number of passengers taking the service will remain largely the same. So more buses, more drivers, more fuel but no similar increase in revenues because it is essentially the same pool of passengers. They now have to wait shorter times and enjoy less crowded journeys, but it is essentially the same pool.

133. Without the Government stepping in, these significant service level improvements would only have been achievable if fares have been raised sharply. The 550 additional buses mean significantly higher costs - not only to purchase the buses, but also because more than 1000 drivers would need to be hired and paid a good wage, as Mr Seng Han Thong and NMP Mary Liew have pointed out. Fare revenues of the PTOs would have had to go up by about 12% - 13% - which translates into an increase in passenger fares of about 15 cents per journey - if the PTOs had to achieve this on their own. How much is 12% - 13%? In the last 5 years since 2006, fares went up by 0.3%. So 12% - 13% is quite a significant leap compared to what we have seen in the last 5 years. That would have been the only way which we could have achieved these service level improvements if the Government had not stepped in.

134. Hence the reality of the matter is that the $1.1 billion Government package, or $110 million per year, is a subsidy for public transport commuters, and not a subsidy for the PTOs. It will improve service levels for commuters, not the profits of the PTOs.

135. The $1.1 billion package is expected to cover the losses on the 550 buses - in other words, the additional costs net of revenues. Of the $1.1 billion package, $280 million is budgeted for the purchase of the 550 buses over the next five years, and $820 million to cover the net operating costs over the 10 years. This is based on the best estimates currently. However, we will be monitoring and scrutinising the PTOs’ actual costs for both the purchase and running of the buses. Should their losses turn out to be lower than expected, the Government funding will be reduced correspondingly. So one way or another, there are no profits to be made from the 550 buses.

136. The $1.1 billion for additional buses complements the $60 billion we are putting into the expansion of the rail system. It will take several years for these new rail lines to come on stream or all of them to come on stream. That is why we are stepping in now to add bus capacity and quickly improve the daily experience of commuters. It is what commuters want, and we have assessed that it is worth the public investment. Both the $1.1 billion over the next 10 years for bus capacity, and the $60 billion that we are putting into the rail system, are worthwhile public investments.

137. Despite this Government package and independent of this Government package, regular and incremental fare increases will continue to be necessary, as wages and operating costs rise, so that the bus industry can stay financially viable. The Government will also continue to make sure that needy commuters get adequate assistance for their transport expenses.

138. The MOT will elaborate further on all these issues during their COS.
 

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[h=2]Like SMRT, SBS Transit wants to raise fares[/h]
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Following SMRT’s statement last month that it intends to raise its fares, SBS Transit has also submitted an application to the Public Transport Council (PTC), seeking to do the same.
Both operators, however, have not publicly revealed the quantum of hike they desire.
In an announcement to the Singapore Exchange yesterday (19 Dec), SBS Transit said it “continues to face significant cost pressures despite increased efforts to lower costs and increase productivity”.
Last month, PTC announced the start of the latest fare revision exercise, giving transport operators until yesterday (19 Dec) to submit their applications for fare hikes.
The moment PTC announced the start of the review exercise on 18 November 2013, SMRT declared that it wanted to up its fares.
Then, SMRT Director for Media Marketing and Communications Alina Boey said, “We seek a better alignment between fares and operating costs, and will be submitting our application for a fare review in the coming weeks.”
She said that SMRT remains committed to delivering a reliable and service-oriented public transport network, despite the multiple train disruptions the operator – and more importantly, their commuters – have been experiencing in the last couple of years.
Now, on the last day for transport operators to apply to raise their fares, SBS Transit has thrown its hat into the ring:
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In March last year, the government announced in Parliament that it would set aside $1.1 billion in the Bus Services Enhancement Fund (BSEF) to fund the purchase and running of an additional 550 buses for 10 years. This includes the salaries of new bus drivers to drive the 550 extra buses, and all running costs for these buses, including fuel and maintenance.
Outside of BSEF, the government will only cover any additional costs incurred in running the programme, after deducting any revenue collected, and no profits will be made by the public transport operators.
Meanwhile, PTC said that any adjustments in fares will be announced in the first quarter of next year.
 

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The commuters pay taxes to the government, direct & indirect; the government gave grant to the transport providers, who now, in return will raise their fares. So, the commuters is effectively, "FARKING THEMSELVES"...:biggrin:


hi there


1. so much for the "free rides" during peak hours in the morning.
2. the only solution: 2016
 

chonburifc

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hi there


1. so much for the "free rides" during peak hours in the morning.
2. the only solution: 2016

Ah tony dun like the number 2016 hor. Anyway, nothing will change. pappies will still be in power in 2016.

the real solution leh now depends on the 40%. The 40% have to 'educate' the 60% liao. Be it your family or friends, Fuck them and disown them if they tick lightning in circle instead of anything else.

Time for 40% to do work liao.
 

rambo22

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tia kong the owner of SBS TRANSIT, COMFART DELGRO CEO , KUA HONG PAK

is OLDMAN bil,

can anyone comfirm
 

chonburifc

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Guys! The PTC members are make up of assholes who don't take public transport, ?

how credible is PTC? PTC stands for what? PLUNDER THE COMMUTERS
 

The_Hypocrite

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The gahmen has put up a 'good' point that the 1 billion donation is for the tpt companies to enhance their capabilities further in serving the public,,as such how come till now services still have not improved? are the buses less crowded than before? Are the trains less crowded? Have bus frequency increase? Tpt fares go up is as certain as the sun rises each day,,but do they deserve to increase the fares when their service standards are fucked up?
 
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2013 : FARES MAY INCREASE
· Public Transport Operators to apply for fare hike [xi] by 19 Dec 2013



Year Description Fare Description Fare
1990 Lowest adult fare by bus $0.60 Highest adult fare by bus $1.20
2013 Lowest adult fare by bus $0.73 Highest adult fare by bus $1.94[xii]
Increase 22% Increase 62%

Does salary for lowest group(bottom 20% ) salary increase by 60% in the same period of time??
If yes then justify , if NO them cummuter are fuck.
 
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All public transport companies should be nationalised. Service, quality and affordability have all deteriorated since the decision was made to publicly list those companies on the stock exchange.

The London Tube didn't need to be privatised to do its job efficiently.
 

rushifa666

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On a separate issue. the much awaited Downtown Line fucked up on the first day. LTA would like to reassure the public that there is no cause for alarm, this is an isolated incident in the latest series of isolated, once in 50 years incidents, and no passenger has died. Oh, sorry, died yet
 
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