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LKY Condemnation Thread - Post 23 March 2015

Does jiu hu kia Tonychat has the balls to curse LKY openly at SGH?

  • Yes. He is brave and will curse LKY openly at SGH

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • No. He is a ball-less twit cyber-warrior and instigator

    Votes: 10 71.4%

  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .

Reddog

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

Dear brothers and sisters

http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/...r-of-modern-singapore-lee-kuan-yew-dies-at-91

Michael Barr, a Singapore expert at Flinders University in Adelaide, Australia, says this had to do with Lee's views on race and culture.

"In his view, meritocracy would always result in Chinese rising to the top,"
Barr says. "He regarded the Malays as being at the bottom of a hierarchy of races, with Indians and especially Chinese above them."


Lee Kuan Yew has died and he is nothing but a piece of shit

Yet there are Malays like masagos, yacoob, halimah,... who will sell out for personal gains. Without Malay votes the pap will fall.
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

That's only because they have lost their kampung homes and are now forced to pay all kinds of bills and must work to do this. malays are forced to conform and become like a chinaman due to financial pressure.

Anywhere in the world, urbanites will score better in exams than those from rural areas.

You piece of useless shit! Even real shit can be made for something useful. You are a dirty useless lying piece of shit! Other races can improve but you Mats and your Arab cave man religion is the reason you cannot develop as other human races have developed. You stupid cunts think you're Arab. Some think you are blacks. Others think you are latinos. :oIo: Only a small minority accept themselves as being Singaporeans and are grateful for being able to receive their education and encouraged to educate themselves unlike your Mats in the North who are leeches. Look at every Muslim country in the world and you see nothing but despair, hate and a bleak future for the masses. If you like kampungs so much then fuck off and go back to Indon which is where you came from. :biggrin:
 

syed putra

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

Why is it OK for Mats to implement apartheid laws? You are hypocrites and nothing will change in you. No one trusts hypocrites. You have no backbone. No gumption. Accept what you are and move on.

those are not apartheid laws being applied up north. Its a wealth distribution law. without that law, other laws will break down. just look at south africa and the wealth gap between black and white. Everybody knows that its not sustainable in the long run. if the poor remains or become poorer, there will be backlash. That is possible even in singapore.
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

those are not apartheid laws being applied up north. Its a wealth distribution law. without that law, other laws will break down. just look at south africa and the wealth gap between black and white. Everybody knows that its not sustainable in the long run. if the poor remains or become poorer, there will be backlash. That is possible even in singapore.

You useless Mats spend too much time bending down and putting your ass up in the air imaging you're getting fucked by a a goat? If you spend less time or Arab caveman culture and tried to live as other civilized human beings then we can see change in you. But you're lazy as a sloth and expect to leech on others. Just look at the useless palestinians who refuse to work and expect donations from the world for things as simple as food on the table. You're a bunch of useless inbred leeches. Those Mats in Singapore who don't complain like you know they have been given a better oppourtinity in live here than those Mats in the north who can't even use their brain in a functional manner. Even a Mat here with I level can easily outperform a Mat in the north with a degree. That is how bad things are there.
 

greenie

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

You piece of useless shit! Even real shit can be made for something useful. You are a dirty useless lying piece of shit! Other races can improve but you Mats and your Arab cave man religion is the reason you cannot develop as other human races have developed. You stupid cunts think you're Arab. Some think you are blacks. Others think you are latinos. :oIo: Only a small minority accept themselves as being Singaporeans and are grateful for being able to receive their education and encouraged to educate themselves unlike your Mats in the North who are leeches. Look at every Muslim country in the world and you see nothing but despair, hate and a bleak future for the masses. If you like kampungs so much then fuck off and go back to Indon which is where you came from. :biggrin:

You are like the roaches. Just fuck off to your peasant land.:biggrin:
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

You are like the roaches. Just fuck off to your peasant land.:biggrin:

Singapore was always dominated by the Chinese. We never ever had a Malay dominant population. You Mats who complain should fuck off back to Indon where you came from. Our oldest written inscription is of Sanskrit or Indian variety. Not Malay. Our native Singaporean have disappeared into thin air. Malaysia admits they are not native to Malaysia. So why Singapore Mats want to make the claim they are native to Singapore? Why are there Singaporean Mats so audacious with their lies?
 

BuiKia

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

Boils down to cultural values of one's race... but truth be told, the malays in sg are catching up.

It happens only after they start marrying Chinese
 

gingerlyn

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

It happens only after they start marrying Chinese

buikia! i agree with u. not only marrying chinese.
they can be better if they are not so strict, occassionally eat pork!
 

Sideswipe

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

Singapore is not that racist like so many countries. the special position of Malays in the Constitution of Singapore is just bullshit. the Malays should just accept their minority position in Singapore society.
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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Re: Prof Michael Barr Said That Lee Kuan Yew was Racist and Looked down at Malay

Singapore is not that racist like so many countries. the special position of Malays in the Constitution of Singapore is just bullshit. the Malays should just accept their minority position in Singapore society.

Very well said. We have a number of traitorous Mats who are intent on creating problems based on false beliefs that Mats are the natives of Singapore.

I have asked so many times and the Mats here cannot answer a simple and logical question. If Malays in Malaysia never claim to be the natives of Malaysia then why are Malays in Singapore making such claims here? Come one Mats let's hear your side of the story and what you have to say.
 

gingerlyn

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Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

Dear brothers and sisters


I don't understand people who sing praises of Lee Kuan Yew. Are you saying that just because he did more good than bad, he should be off the hook? Don't forget he imprisoned and persecuted many, many political opponents for decades. I can only imagine the immense hardship and emotional turmoil that his victims and their families experienced during his iron-fist rule. He didn't even pay for his patent and unrepentant violations of human rights -- nope, not a day in jail or anything of that sort. Not even a fucking apology... defiant to the end.


Don't forget that Adolf Hitler also turned Germany into the world's first superpower in just 6 years from 1933-1939, even though he started out with the crappiest inter-war period economy imaginable with hyper-inflation and massive unemployment. He transformed Germany into a high-income, militarily-advanced nation in an impressively-short amount of time and with mountains of debt in the form of war reparations, so he had very limited resources to begin with.

Should we also sing praises of Hitler then?

Character is more important than achievement, always. Lee Kuan Yew was smart but very evil and heartless. He's a man who has done a lot for Singapore but very little for Singaporeans. Think about it.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/tanjyeyee/posts/10152802032985886?pnref=story
 

gingerlyn

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

Alvin Tan said Lee Kuan Yew is many times worst than Mahathir

Bitch please, now you scary Lee Kuan Yew worshippers, go get educated on the whole Chia Thye Poh saga here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chia_Thye_Poh (before that, listen to yourself and realize how much you sound like a North Korean defending the Kims). I don't care if the guy invented a cure for cancer or saved the world from Nazi domination. If he did something like this to Chia with a clear conscience and no indication of remorse whatsoever, he isn't fit to be a leader.

He was evil. I don't think anyone can disagree with me on that either. And Lee Kuan Yew didn't even invent the cure for cancer. What he did had impact on at most 5 million people, less than half of the population of Los Angeles county. Yawn...

Leadership is not just about achievement; it's above all about CHARACTER. Otherwise we will just be a mercenary society with no compassion and respect for human rights. In the West, if a leader like Lee Kuan Yew existed, he would have been condemned endlessly and spat on. It would have been a HUGE political scandal if a politician is caught orchestrating an unjust imprisonment of his political rival.

But of course you brainwashed/under-exposed Singaporeans know nothing about that. You only know Lee Kuan Yew is the great father of Singapore, right? Something you learnt from your impartial and objective Social Studies textbook? Something something Asian values, respect, bla bla bla?

First, let's not overstate his achievements, please. He was only responsible for 3 million Singaporean lives (by 1990). That's way less than even the mayor of New York City, who has to be responsible for more than 10 million lives.

Was he efficient and effective in building Singapore? That's beyond doubt. But Singapore was already the TOP entrepot port in Asia by the 1950s, a thriving, bustling world-class port, and he had tons of support from the British colonial government too in dealing with insurgents, defence, consultations, etc.

Second, let's not also discount the contributions of his esteemed colleagues like Dr Goh Keng Swee, S Rajaratnam, etc. They too did a lot, but I don't see anyone worshipping them when they died. You want to worship some people? Worship the whole lot of them. Remember, they weren't the ones suing and imprisoning political opponents. At least their conscience was clear.

Third, I cringe every time I hear the argument that "[all these evil] are necessary to get Singapore to where it is today." Guess what? Post-World War II Western countries, destroyed and totally bankrupt and impoverished, did just fine modernizing themselves WITHOUT COMMITTING HUMAN RIGHTS ATROCITIES. Japan did it. South Korea did it. Germany did it. France did it. And Singapore wasn't even in such dire straits when independence was achieved in 1965.

Hell, even Mahathir -- another ruthless politician -- didn't jail anyone for 30+ years, longer than Nelson Mandela. If you just ship off your opponents to prison for no good reason and without trial, what makes you different from Stalin, who also sent his political opponents to the gulags? Don't forget Stalin also achieved much greater things than Lee Kuan Yew; his contributions to the Soviet nation were phenomenal.

So should we also call Stalin great?

Seriously, that man couldn't even win a general election without locking up his political opponents whenever they started to pose a threat. At least Mahathir charged Anwar for a deed that he indeed was guilty for. In 1998/1999, Anwar had trials, outlets for appeal, legal representation, international scrutiny, etc. Unjust as the law of sodomy was and biased as the judiciary was, Mahathir exhibited way more respect for the rule of law than Lee Kuan Yew ever had.

I know I'll never change your (small) minds when it comes to Lee Kuan Yew; you're too brainwashed to think clearly anymore. I merely want to provide an alternative perspective for your consideration. In the mean time, enjoy your $80,000 COEs and fragrant NeWater.
 

Scrooball (clone)

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

Haha.... tis Alex Tan is indeed a very good stand up comedian. He did not have to resort to washing dishes in Australia.
 

gingerlyn

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

From alvin tan

Hell, even Mahathir -- another ruthless politician -- didn't jail anyone for 30+ years, longer than Nelson Mandela. If you just ship off your opponents to prison for no good reason and without trial, what makes you different from Stalin, who also sent his political opponents to the gulags? Don't forget Stalin also achieved much greater things than Lee Kuan Yew; his contributions to the Soviet nation were phenomenal.
 

Scrooball (clone)

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

Wa very scared. Use big font size to SHOUT in online forum. Got balls to do so in front of Istana?
 

greenies

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

Singapore will be finished if everyone praises LKY.
Remember North K.?
We have high hope because there are many fighters and free thinking minds, who are not brain-washed by MSM.
 

yellowarse

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

A very good wake-up call to all the gongkias out there sobbing their hearts out for the 'founding father' of Singapore. The end never justifies the means. If that's the case Hitler would be the world's greatest leader.
 

Sideswipe

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

Lee Kuan Yew was smart but very evil and heartless. He's a man who has done a lot for Singapore but very little for Singaporeans.


that is an excellent point to ponder.
 

gingerlyn

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Re: Obama Fuck Lee Kuan Yew for Jailing Dissent and Praising Mandela

Though certainly no name was provided, but even Mandela could not break Chia Thye Poh's record. :biggrin:

not many sinkies know this fact and willing to accept this fact.
chia thye poh was jailed for 32yrs without any charges and conviction.
 

Satyr

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Re: Alvin Tan Fucked Lee Kuan Yew and Comparing him with Hitler

Dear brothers and sisters


I don't understand people who sing praises of Lee Kuan Yew. Are you saying that just because he did more good than bad, he should be off the hook? Don't forget he imprisoned and persecuted many, many political opponents for decades. I can only imagine the immense hardship and emotional turmoil that his victims and their families experienced during his iron-fist rule. He didn't even pay for his patent and unrepentant violations of human rights -- nope, not a day in jail or anything of that sort. Not even a fucking apology... defiant to the end.


Don't forget that Adolf Hitler also turned Germany into the world's first superpower in just 6 years from 1933-1939, even though he started out with the crappiest inter-war period economy imaginable with hyper-inflation and massive unemployment. He transformed Germany into a high-income, militarily-advanced nation in an impressively-short amount of time and with mountains of debt in the form of war reparations, so he had very limited resources to begin with.

Should we also sing praises of Hitler then?

Character is more important than achievement, always. Lee Kuan Yew was smart but very evil and heartless. He's a man who has done a lot for Singapore but very little for Singaporeans. Think about it.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/tanjyeyee/posts/10152802032985886?pnref=story

Interesting points. If any of us were to plead that we did more good than harm or that whatever questionable things we did were in a good cause, how far would we get.? Not very far. Seems to me we should ask some moral philosophers the question of LKY and his legacy. No Kishore, not you.
 
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