Old Fart: WP's Chen Show Mao all flash but no bang

Sideswipe said:

people said CSJ is the PAP's mole for a long time already. if i remember correctly. there is plenty of talks on CSJ = PAP mole in 3in1 too ( i joined in 2006 ). when did the CSJ mole speculations first surfaced in the history of the forum ?

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Sideswipe said:

people said CSJ is the PAP's mole for a long time already. if i remember correctly. there is plenty of talks on CSJ = PAP mole in 3in1 too ( i joined in 2006 ). when did the CSJ mole speculations first surfaced in the history of the forum ?

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laksaboy said:

Typical PAP response.

First they ignore you. If that fails, they ridicule you. If even that also fails, they demonize you.

Instead of taking potshots at the opposition, the PAP should examine itself first.

This highly unqualified nincompoop is still employed, only because he married into the right Familee.

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jw5 said:

They may say that because he did not succeed where it came to elections and being a politician who was "acceptable" to he establishment and the majority of the voters.
CSJ was actually in delphi for a while, using his real name. He never had a negative word to say about other opposition parties and politicians, only negative things about pappies.

Started in this forum again when newbie GoldenDragon joined the forum in late 2010 (before GE2011 you may notice) and the claims quickly backed up by your "favourite" forummer who has been missing for some time.

You are familiar with cass888 right?
Have you noticed that for all her hatred of CSJ and her pappy leanings, she never claimed before that he was a mole?
Tells u something doesn't it?

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winnipegjets said:

CSM must be a threat to the PAP to warrant so much attacks on him. Even Old Fart has to intervene. They have even assigned one PAP IB to humtum him everyday. Wah lau ...CSM must be good, so good that the PAP has to put full focus on him.

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Sideswipe said:

you are suggesting that the real identified PAP supporters would not claim that CSJ is the PAP's mole ?

my view is CSJ might have harmed the opposition's interests over the years. but that does not prove that he is the PAP's mole. it only shows that he is a useless and incompetent politician.

my "favourite" forummer is in the global ignore list ?

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Satyr said:

At least I have seen CSM asking questions. The contribution of the majority of PAP MPs is close to nil. The real measure of CSM is what he is doing for his constituents. I am sure the PAP wants CSM to stick his neck out so they can chop it.

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Rogue Trader said:

Workers’ Party’s Chen Show Mao not so brilliant: Lee Kuan Yew

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Singapore’s founding Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew says Member of Parliament (MP) for Aljunied Group Representation Constituency (GRC) Chen Show Mao has not lived up to expectations.

In his new book titled “One Man’s View of the World”, the former minister mentor said that with credentials such as being an international corporate lawyer, The Workers’ Party (WP) MP appeared to be a “talented person” in the 2011 general election.

However, Lee said Chen “has not turned out to be so brilliant.”

“In Parliament, he [Chen] makes good prepared speeches, with a written script, but in the follow-up, he is all over the place. It simply does not gel for him,” said Lee.

He added, “The weight of public expectation of the man, given his rather impressive résumé, has probably added to the disappointment.”

The former prime minister also attributed the 2011 election results – one that the People’s Action Party (PAP) polled an average of 60.1 per cent nationwide and lost six seats, the worst results since Independence in 1965 – to WP chief Low Thia Khiang’s ability to produce Chen as a “solid-looking candidate” to stand in Aljunied GRC, along with party chairman Sylvia Lim and himself.

Lee said WP’s implied message to voters was clear: “We’re putting all our eggs here. Let us have one GRC.”

Another factor that influenced the election results was the unhappiness over the large number of foreigners, added the founding father.

But, repeating sentiments he’s expressed before, he said Singapore needs to take in immigrants and foreign workers because its people have not been reproducing.

Singapore has one of the lowest total fertility rates in the world at 1.29.

Lee added that the government has been moderating the influx to a level that causes less discomfort.

In his book, the former minister mentor also expressed doubts over whether the opposition can live up to expectations and persuade enough good people to join them.

“Can the opposition produce the likes of the younger generation of PAP ministers, never mind the likes of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong or Deputy Prime Ministers Teo Chee Hean and Tharman Shanmugaratnam?” asked Lee.

He also warned that if Singapore decides to move towards a two-party system, then the people are “destined for mediocrity”.

“The biggest problem with the two-party system is that once it is in place, the best people will choose not to be in politics. Getting elected will be a dicey affair,” he pointed out.

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Sideswipe said:

you are suggesting that the real identified PAP supporters would not claim that CSJ is the PAP's mole ?

my view is CSJ might have harmed the opposition's interests over the years. but that does not prove that he is the PAP's mole. it only shows that he is a useless and incompetent politician.

my "favourite" forummer is in the global ignore list ?

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Leongsam said:

The honorable Mr Lee has never made any mistakes. If anything has gone wrong along the way, the cause can always be traced to citizens who don't have the fire in their bellies to execute his grand plans.

If Singaporeans were more competent, the problems that the country faces today would have been solved ages ago.

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KuanTi01 said:

I concur. From a nobody in HP manageral ranks to become the DPM and the all-powerful Minister for Home Affairs and one-time Foreign Minister, you obviously need connections more than talent. As for talent, I verily believe I'm more talented than him but then I'm so disconnected.

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Rogue Trader said:

“Can the opposition produce the likes of the younger generation of PAP ministers, never mind the likes of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong or Deputy Prime Ministers Teo Chee Hean and Tharman Shanmugaratnam?” asked Lee.

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KuanTi01 said:

I concur. From a nobody in HP manageral ranks to become the DPM and the all-powerful Minister for Home Affairs and one-time Foreign Minister, you obviously need connections more than talent. As for talent, I verily believe I'm more talented than him but then I'm so disconnected.

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Thick Face Black Heart said:

If LKY feels threatened by CSM to attack him directly on so many occasions, that CSM must be doing something right.

Remember the running-down of CSM began after nomination day 2011.


As I recall CSM has also been a hot target (for attack) by our dear resident political ANALyst GMS.

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steffychun said:

Old man should not dart insult Chen Show Mao who has a Rhodes Scholarship

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kingrant said:

In fact I will add that with all the pizzazz of being his son, and the overwhelming weight of public expectation before his entry, LHL has been the greatest PAP disappointment as a leader.

The Old Fart is really blind-sided. What arrogance!

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halsey02 said:

This time, he did not compare his daughter-in-law with CSM?? that is an extremely rare talent...

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