RTS rapid transit system linking Johor and Singapore (MASTEEL)

shctaw · Sep 4, 2014

All the hype about JB cooling is good. We do not want a overheated market with endless curb.

From what I know; price of condos are still rising even when market is weak. Can you imagine what will happened when all this news become actual facts......

Lets buy and wait. Never wait to buy.

RedsYNWA said:
Actually for me, this Masteel project is good to have, but not really critical imho. RTS betw JB & Republic Poly is the one which will be the real game changer, and hope that the news of the JB location, alignment & method will be announced in the coming months. The clock is ticking towards December deadline.....

terencetan1981 · Sep 5, 2014

potter said:
Tikam-ed 1 dollar my location before they announced e MRT project.
Wait for them to show hand..that's fun.

are you talking about the 3 possible entry points into the JB side? option 2 and option 3 seems to be on where the current R&F condo is situated le. So left only option 1...

potter · Sep 5, 2014

terencetan1981 said:
are you talking about the 3 possible entry points into the JB side? option 2 and option 3 seems to be on where the current R&F condo is situated le. So left only option 1...

nah.. not engross with those entry points. :smile:

Just to see if there's any station that near my taman or not...but it(MRT) will be super..long wait.

snowbird · Sep 9, 2014

Apparently, it seems only the Singaporeans are excited about the RTS.
Most Johor residents are pretty lukewarm to it - those driving will continue driving their car and those riding motorbike will continue riding their bike.
So only those currently taking public transport will be interested in the RTS and unfortunately, the bus riding population is not that big.
Even if one fine day they decided to build the RTS, the next problem follows - they need come with plans to provide feeder service at all stations but will they??
So that's a station serving your taman but you need to walk 20 to 30 mins home while waiting taxis without meters will insist at least RM10.

Bruceli · Sep 9, 2014

snowbird said:
Apparently, it seems only the Singaporeans are excited about the RTS.
Most Johor residents are pretty lukewarm to it - those driving will continue driving their car and those riding motorbike will continue riding their bike.
So only those currently taking public transport will be interested in the RTS and unfortunately, the bus riding population is not that big.
Even if one fine day they decided to build the RTS, the next problem follows - they need come with plans to provide feeder service at all stations but will they??
So that's a station serving your taman but you need to walk 20 to 30 mins home while waiting taxis without meters will insist at least RM10.

from what I know, many Johorians are pretty excited abt the RTS. maybe its not expressive enough.
have you taken the bus ride over to JB and vice versa before ? have you seen the crowd that walk across the causeway ?

FHBH12 · Sep 9, 2014

Bruceli said:
from what I know, many Johorians are pretty excited abt the RTS. maybe its not expressive enough.
have you taken the bus ride over to JB and vice versa before ? have you seen the crowd that walk across the causeway ?

I think RTS will be a big boost to the economic growth at both sides. SG will have more access to cheaper labour without straining infrastructure such as houses, roads and hospitals, while MY will have more people earning the stronger SG dollars. Definitely more impactful than Legoland and Educity combined.

malpaso · Sep 9, 2014

snowbird said:
Apparently, it seems only the Singaporeans are excited about the RTS.
Most Johor residents are pretty lukewarm to it - those driving will continue driving their car and those riding motorbike will continue riding their bike.
So only those currently taking public transport will be interested in the RTS and unfortunately, the bus riding population is not that big.
Even if one fine day they decided to build the RTS, the next problem follows - they need come with plans to provide feeder service at all stations but will they??
So that's a station serving your taman but you need to walk 20 to 30 mins home while waiting taxis without meters will insist at least RM10.

if the MRT finally go to potter taman, it will only be 5 min walk to potter house. potter house beri strategic position. got good got bad :biggrin:

potter · Sep 9, 2014

malpaso said:
if the MRT finally go to potter taman, it will only be 5 min walk to potter house. potter house beri strategic position. got good got bad

LOL, we share same distance if location is close to SA! (ai ya, just tikam for fun. :biggrin:

)
Can go straight home from SG everyday without driving, like tat then can keep dog n cat.. :p

RedsYNWA · Sep 9, 2014

snowbird said:
Apparently, it seems only the Singaporeans are excited about the RTS.
Most Johor residents are pretty lukewarm to it - those driving will continue driving their car and those riding motorbike will continue riding their bike.
So only those currently taking public transport will be interested in the RTS and unfortunately, the bus riding population is not that big.
Even if one fine day they decided to build the RTS, the next problem follows - they need come with plans to provide feeder service at all stations but will they??
So that's a station serving your taman but you need to walk 20 to 30 mins home while waiting taxis without meters will insist at least RM10.

I assume you are a local Johorean, so you should be pretty much in tune with what BN will do right, after the money spinning RTS is ready? Do you think motorcycles entry/exit will still be free when RTS is up?

You should also know that most daily commuters wont be voting BN anyway.... So BN might as well implement a hefty toll increase once RTS is ready, in the name of reducing 'traffic congestion'. The commuter is caught between a RM5 per entry/exit motorcycle charge (with a corresponding SG toll), and a RM5 transit ride on RTS.

Welcome to the real world of politics & money! :biggrin:

terencetan1981 · Sep 9, 2014

RedsYNWA said:
I assume you are a local Johorean, so you should be pretty much in tune with what BN will do right, after the money spinning RTS is ready? Do you think motorcycles entry/exit will still be free when RTS is up?

You should also know that most daily commuters wont be voting BN anyway.... So BN might as well implement a hefty toll increase once RTS is ready, in the name of reducing 'traffic congestion'. The commuter is caught between a RM5 per entry/exit motorcycle charge (with a corresponding SG toll), and a RM5 transit ride on RTS.

Welcome to the real world of politics & money!

that rings an interesting question. Let's do a poll here..

1. How much do you all think it should be the reasonable fair for the RTS between JHR and SG?
2. How much such that you'ld rather consider taking your own transport in?

shctaw · Sep 9, 2014

The fare can be as high as RM8-10 on JB side.

Singapore side will be at least S$5.

Only reach JBCC. Commuters may need to drop off at JBCC to clear custom.

terencetan1981 said:
that rings an interesting question. Let's do a poll here..

1. How much do you all think it should be the reasonable fair for the RTS between JHR and SG?
2. How much such that you'ld rather consider taking your own transport in?

OracleMasia · Sep 11, 2014

http://news360.com/article/256715053

[h=1]Malaysia considers interim bus, rail services to ease Causeway congestion[/h]

By Sumisha Naidu
POSTED: 10 Sep 2014 21:13
UPDATED: 10 Sep 2014 23:49

[h=2]Ahead of the planned high-speed rail linking Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia is looking at the possibility of increasing transport services to improve the traffic situation on the Causeway.[/h]
KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysian authorities are exploring ways to mitigate the impact of recent toll hikes and heavy traffic at the Causeway. This includes the possibility of introducing cross-border train services.
This comes as Malaysia and Singapore move closer to finalising details about a high-speed rail project linking Kuala Lumpur to the city-state.
Mr Mohd Nur Ismal Mohd Kamal, CEO of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, said: "At one time, it was late night, and the queue from CIQ (Customs, Immigration and Quarantine complex) was backed up all the way to Johor town. This is not a situation that we should subject our people to.

"We are looking at providing more public transport options for people who are crossing the Causeway, looking at increasing bus services, we are even talking to KTM about the possibility of providing regional commuter services between Johor Bahru and Woodlands."
Any train service, however, would be temporary - this would last until the rapid transit system hoped to link up Johor Bahru with Singapore's MRT system is up and running. Details of the interim services are still being worked out, as are plans for another cross-border train service - a high-speed rail connecting Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.
"We are looking at reaching a bilateral agreement by the third quarter of next year," said Mr Mohd Nur Ismal. "Only after that can the tendering process happen and it may take anywhere between six months to a year to conclude the tendering process. Only after that construction can happen."
Malaysian authorities said there are still challenges ahead, but the chairman of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, Mr Syed Hamid Albar, is encouraged by the progress made so far. "For the first time, I think there is a political will, there is a lot of excitement, not only on the Malaysia side but more excitement on the Singapore side too," he said.

xixxix · Sep 11, 2014

OracleMasia said:
http://news360.com/article/256715053

[h=1]Malaysia considers interim bus, rail services to ease Causeway congestion[/h]

By Sumisha Naidu

POSTED: 10 Sep 2014 21:13

UPDATED: 10 Sep 2014 23:49

[h=2]Ahead of the planned high-speed rail linking Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia is looking at the possibility of increasing transport services to improve the traffic situation on the Causeway.[/h]
KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysian authorities are exploring ways to mitigate the impact of recent toll hikes and heavy traffic at the Causeway. This includes the possibility of introducing cross-border train services.
This comes as Malaysia and Singapore move closer to finalising details about a high-speed rail project linking Kuala Lumpur to the city-state.
Mr Mohd Nur Ismal Mohd Kamal, CEO of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, said: "At one time, it was late night, and the queue from CIQ (Customs, Immigration and Quarantine complex) was backed up all the way to Johor town. This is not a situation that we should subject our people to.

"We are looking at providing more public transport options for people who are crossing the Causeway, looking at increasing bus services, we are even talking to KTM about the possibility of providing regional commuter services between Johor Bahru and Woodlands."
Any train service, however, would be temporary - this would last until the rapid transit system hoped to link up Johor Bahru with Singapore's MRT system is up and running. Details of the interim services are still being worked out, as are plans for another cross-border train service - a high-speed rail connecting Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.
"We are looking at reaching a bilateral agreement by the third quarter of next year," said Mr Mohd Nur Ismal. "Only after that can the tendering process happen and it may take anywhere between six months to a year to conclude the tendering process. Only after that construction can happen."
Malaysian authorities said there are still challenges ahead, but the chairman of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, Mr Syed Hamid Albar, is encouraged by the progress made so far. "For the first time, I think there is a political will, there is a lot of excitement, not only on the Malaysia side but more excitement on the Singapore side too," he said.

Seems like a long way away....

cow138 · Sep 11, 2014

My goodness. Sued Hamid Albar .
It doesn't inspire confidence in me that this will materialise soon.

RedsYNWA · Sep 11, 2014

One of the speculative maps released by LTA. From the map, it looks like RTS would not be at Princess Cove, unless the Chinese can sway it by offering more 'incentives'.

cow138 · Sep 11, 2014

Looks like it's still near Princess Cove.
OK still for those invested.

RedsYNWA · Sep 11, 2014

cow138 said:
Looks like it's still near Princess Cove.
OK still for those invested.

Princess Cove will still be near to the MRT, no matter which option is chosen. But for the commercial units that R&F is selling, the risk of being further away from MRT is actually quite high.

Vantage Bay could be another interesting mega mixed development project, which is still waiting for the RTS announcement to launch.......

Davis · Sep 11, 2014

This map is from where?

RedsYNWA said:
View attachment 17015

One of the speculative maps released by LTA. From the map, it looks like RTS would not be at Princess Cove, unless the Chinese can sway it by offering more 'incentives'.

Bruceli · Sep 18, 2014

mr ho's guess

shctaw · Sep 18, 2014

R&F project is huge.

Even if you own a unit, you may need to walk a long way home.

Unless you know exactly the point the MRT is located.

China developer is smart, they should know where it is, and will likely to launch those units last and the highest price.

cow138 said:
Looks like it's still near Princess Cove.
OK still for those invested.

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