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    A truly ominous sign. Reading in-between the lines (UMNO confident of winning, police expecting trouble), this suggests the possibility of outright electoral fraud in Malaysia to keep UMNO in power.The plan to implement electoral fraud would be consistent with the high gear propaganda campaign to give the impression that BN is enjoying massive popularity and support.

    As the scale needs to be fairly massive, the probability of detection is high. What do you think will be the reaction if it comes out that UMNO stuffed ballot boxes to win? PAP politicians entertaining this as a last resort tactic in 2021 please take notes.
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    Malaysian Police Ready Two Election Plans

    http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.ph...324&Itemid=178

    For the first time ever, according to sources in Kuala Lumpur, the Royal Police have formulated two contingency plans for the night of Malaysia's 13th general election, expected to be on April 27 or after.

    The first, a source said, is "how to whisk the Prime Minister from the Putra World Trade Center where the Barisan Nasional is holding its election night celebration, back to Sri Perdana, the Prime Minister's residence, safely in the event that the Barisan Nasional loses, or if there is trouble." The second, the source said, is how to bring Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim from his home to the palace to be sworn in if the opposition were to win.

    Implicit in both of those plans are questions whether there will be violence started by the losing side.

    Both plans are unprecedented because there has never been a time in the 57-year history of the country when anybody thought the opposition might actually win. It still may not. But the fact that the plans are in place is an indication that even the police think the election is too close to call.

    A call to ACP Ramli Mohamed Yoosuf, the assistant director of management for public relations at the national police headquarters at Bukit Aman in Kuala Lumpur, to ask about the plans went unanswered.

    "How it will pan out is something else - whether Anwar is allowed to be sworn in if he wins, etc." a source told Asia Sentinel. "But the fact that they have these contingency plans in place would suggest that despite the confidence shown by Najib and UMNO leaders, it is going to be a very close race."

    Other sources say that the mood inside the "war room," or election headquarters at the United Malays National Organization is brimming with confidence. "I don't know why," an independent source said. "They must know something."

    Both the Barisan Nasional, or national ruling coalition, and Pakatan Rakyat, the three-party opposition coalition, have been campaigning feverishly for months. However, a number of factors are strongly in favor of the Barisan, particularly in the way the districts are laid out. The below chart of previous elections, prepared by Greg Lopez for the New Mandala website, based at the Australian National University's College of Asia, shows that since the country became a nation, the Barisan's popular vote has always run well below the number of seats it captured in Parliament.

    Even though it only won 50.14 percent of the votes in the 2008 national election to the opposition's 46.41 percent, the Barisan managed to retain 63.1 percent of the seats against only 36.9 percent for the opposition. In 1969, the year that disaster struck in the form of murderous race riots, the Barisan actually gained only 49.3 percent of the popular vote against 50.7 percent for the opposition, but it still won 66 percent of the parliamentary seats against 34 percent for the opposition.

    The districts haven't been reapportioned. So in order for the opposition to actually take control of the Parliament, the opposition probably must win a substantially larger number of the votes.

    If that were to happen, it would be a landslide of epic proportions. In order to attempt to stop it from happening, the Prime Minister Najib and the Barisan Nasional have poured an estimated US$2 billion into what a cynic might describe as outright bribes to the electorate - much of it in the form of cash handouts but more in mortgage relief, salary raises for the military, civil servants, employees of the judiciary and just about anyone else remotely connected with government, including 4,000 workers of the national energy company Petronas, who received RM1,000 cash bonuses when they showed up at a rally put on by Najib and the forces of the Barisan.

    Against that, and against an undeniably healthy economy that is delivering 5.6 percent economic growth, the Barisan is faced with the outright collapse of the component parties, the Malaysian Chinese Association, Gerakan, and the Malaysian Indian Congress, which most observers believe won't get more than a handful of sets in Parliament, and which means that UMNO will probably end up governing the country by itself.

    The two opposing sides expect to closely split the 165 parliamentary seats in Peninsular Malaysia. The two East Malaysia states of Sabah and Sarawak and the federal territory of Labuan control 57 of the total 222 seats. The common wisdom is that if the two sides are deadlocked in Peninsular Malaysia, the two states hold the key to the future for both opposition and Barisan. Both of the current governments are believed to be in control of enough votes to win their respective statehouses.

    Most political observers believe that given the shifting loyalties in the two states, the parties will be open to the blandishments of the competing Barisan and Pakatan in the form of promises of Increased royalties from oil and timber, and increased development for both states, which are the poorest in the country, for whichever side the two choose.

    But in the past few days that has been complicated by renewed allegations of huge scandals on the part of both chief ministers, Abdul Taib Mahmud of Sarawak and Musa Hasan in Sabah. An NGO, Global Witness, staged a filmed sting on Taib's representatives in which it was alleged that the Sarawak chief received billions of ringgit in kickbacks over timber and land deals that have denuded the North Borneo state. Musa as well has been named as having deposited millions of ringgit in Swiss banks through nominees.

    That raises the question whether Anwar and his three component parties, who have campaigned for years on a reform platform, can actually do business with the two scandal-scarred ministers and their parties in the wake of the election.

    The Barisan also faces the headwinds of some truly massive scandals which have been the focus of widespread reporting in the indefatigable internet press, which largely forms the opposition press, since the mainstream media is owned by all three of the major political parties.

    Two of those scandals have resulted in trials that continue at the moment, including corruption in the construction of the Port Klang multimodal port, which could cost as much as RM12.45 billion if the port is forced to default on all of its loans, which appears possible.

    Ling Liong Sik, the longtime former head of the MCA, is on trial in a Kuala Lumpur Courtroom now over the affair. In another case, which has gained the name "Cattlegate," in which the husband of the former head of the women's wing of the party, Shahrizat Abdul Jalil, then Malaysia's minister for women, family and community development, has been accused of misusing huge amounts of money from a loan to set up the National Feedlot Corporation, a scandal-plagued scheme to slaughter as many as 60,000 cattle annually but fell far short of that goal.
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    Sincere advice to PM Lee - You need to heal the PAP. The only way you can do this is announce your retirement and pave the way for a new leader to take your place.

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    BN is on shaky ground. Otherwise they would have called for the GE much earlier. This is common sense that idiots cannot fathom.

    Only electoral fraud on a massive scale can prevent BN from getting their ass kicked. BN lost substantial Chinese and Indian votes in the last GE. There will be greater loss from these two groups this time. To add to the BN headache even the Malays in large numbers have turned against BN. UMNO made a big mistake when they voted Najib onto the helm. He and his wife are despised by a large majority of the country. Him being at the helm of UMNO and being in the spotlight clearly showed Malaysians everything that was wrong in UMNO. Malaysians are tired of corruption, backward thinking and even the bumiputra nonsense.

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    The first, a source said, is "how to whisk the Prime Minister from the Putra World Trade Center where the Barisan Nasional is holding its election night celebration, back to Sri Perdana, the Prime Minister's residence, safely in the event that the Barisan Nasional loses, or if there is trouble." The second, the source said, is how to bring Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim from his home to the palace to be sworn in if the opposition were to win.
    We should also make preparation for this in 2016.

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    Oppositions are shifting the battleground ground to Johore with Lim Kit Siang leading the charge in Gelang Patah. MCA is in a panic mode and is ceding areas it previously hold to UMNO in a desperate attempt to save seats for BN.
    Last edited by 3_M; 10-04-2013 at 04:32 PM.

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    gerekan, mic...90% likely to be buried for good!
    mca....GE2008 already half buried...this time round....99.99999%.....3/4 buried for good
    PR....unlikely to win, but steady, steady.....45-46% of the votes.....
    penang, kelantan, selangor, kedah, perak...NO HORSE RUN

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    Actually for us, it doesnt matter so much which party prevails in mudland.

    both got problems, BN got problems, cos its urine and shit components are out of touch and too sycophantic while the umno is swimming in corruption.

    for anwar, he gay gay play backside or not, we dont know for sure, and also he also a bit dodgy kind, got dealings with jews and all, all these are taboo in mudlands.
    And Anwar is not exactly an intellectual heavyweight, the chap is a malay studies graduate, I am not sure he has the smarts in this tough times.

    the urines and shits are scared of PAS although they seem the most trustworthy.

    So basically the major parties all got problems, so whoever wins, as long as biz as usual, its not our problem.

    For me: I hope Najib wins, for the simple reason, he is good for biz, the wife looks like a plastic surrgery freak so its fun to lampoon her and his scandals all very deadly, blow up bodies kind, so his wayang is more interesting to watch

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    Actually for us, it doesnt matter so much which party prevails in mudland.
    bro andy; the result of GE2013 will have an indirect influence on GE2016 (in particular the results in johore)
    i also believe the results from GE2011 and BE2012 may likewise influence the result in johore

    For me: I hope Najib wins, for the simple reason, he is good for biz
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    on this, i totally agree with you.....

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    repeat on riots of 1969 if oppo wins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverTheCounter View Post
    You moron!!!!!! You would prefer the corrupt and despotic BN over the opposition simply because you bought into the msm propaganda about PKR!!

    You go over to MY and try living under their corruption laden bumiputra policies!!!!!

    Fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!
    fuck you. so rude

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    let Najis rewards u with tonnes of lynas waste and EDL toll fees at woodland and heavier jam at tuas....

    Quote Originally Posted by andyfisher View Post
    Actually for us, it doesnt matter so much which party prevails in mudland.

    both got problems, BN got problems, cos its urine and shit components are out of touch and too sycophantic while the umno is swimming in corruption.

    for anwar, he gay gay play backside or not, we dont know for sure, and also he also a bit dodgy kind, got dealings with jews and all, all these are taboo in mudlands.
    And Anwar is not exactly an intellectual heavyweight, the chap is a malay studies graduate, I am not sure he has the smarts in this tough times.

    the urines and shits are scared of PAS although they seem the most trustworthy.

    So basically the major parties all got problems, so whoever wins, as long as biz as usual, its not our problem.

    For me: I hope Najib wins, for the simple reason, he is good for biz, the wife looks like a plastic surrgery freak so its fun to lampoon her and his scandals all very deadly, blow up bodies kind, so his wayang is more interesting to watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwitSeng View Post
    repeat on riots of 1969 if oppo wins?
    dont worry, they won't have the chance to do that. the najis party will be busy taking private jet to fly off....

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    bro, I usually use 2nd link and I only drive up to KL so far so good

    toll is so far ok what?, NSH is a decent road to drive thru, I dont mind paying.


    screw the mudland urines, you cannot trust these fuckers, they will anyhow shift their loyalties for money, worse than tiong urine xmms in geylang.

    Do the muds like PAS? it seems to be the only 'quite clean' party. that could be interesting.
    my chats with urban muds in bangsar area, even they are quite spooked by the pas, which I found quite surprising since all are muds and muds usually stick together.

    the mudland shits have no power, the days of samy vellu and mic screwing them over is long gone and they dont have a powerful leader cos all the good powerful leaders who are shits declare themselves as muds, eg mahathir lol

    bottomline, Najib is good for biz, may he win,
    And if he doesnt, as long as biz is biasa, it could be the bloody pinoys in charge, I still dont care


    Quote Originally Posted by house View Post
    let Najis rewards u with tonnes of lynas waste and EDL toll fees at woodland and heavier jam at tuas....
    Last edited by andyfisher; 14-04-2013 at 11:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyfisher View Post
    bro, I usually use 2nd link and I only drive up to KL so far so good

    toll is so far ok what?, NSH is a decent road to drive thru, I dont mind paying.
    Interesting. I have never driven up but am thinking of doing so. Can you give advice? Is the road signage from 2nd link to KL good and all one needs to do is just follow the signs all the way up?

    How many toll stations? How much is the toll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_of_hope View Post
    Interesting. I have never driven up but am thinking of doing so. Can you give advice? Is the road signage from 2nd link to KL good and all one needs to do is just follow the signs all the way up?

    How many toll stations? How much is the toll?
    Road signage from 2nd link to KL bo kelong. Will lead you there! I must have driven at least 50 times to KL. Sometimes, alone. You may encounter problems when inside KL. Road signs there can be confusing. But NSH road conditions first world standard.

    Not sure how many toll stations and total cost. S$50 all in?

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    As expected, our MSM has been very quiet with regard to the political campaign for Malaysia's GE 2013. The following is a link to a Youtube of a recent PKR rally

    http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/in...ally&Itemid=12

    The estimated crowd size was a magnificent 30,000 in a predominantly Malay community. There was the same sort of energy that we are now so used to seeing at the WP rallies. When Anwar arrives at 2:30 in the clip, the crowd goes wild. Have not been able to find any videos of BN rallies but have heard that they are like the PAP rallies with the freebies and trucked in supporters.
    Last edited by aurvandil; 15-04-2013 at 07:06 AM.
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    Unedited footage of the estimated 50k strong rally in KL. The crowd is truly awe inspiring.

    Sincere advice to PM Lee - You need to heal the PAP. The only way you can do this is announce your retirement and pave the way for a new leader to take your place.

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    More footage of the 50k rally.

    Sincere advice to PM Lee - You need to heal the PAP. The only way you can do this is announce your retirement and pave the way for a new leader to take your place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenDragon View Post
    Road signage from 2nd link to KL bo kelong. Will lead you there! I must have driven at least 50 times to KL. Sometimes, alone. You may encounter problems when inside KL. Road signs there can be confusing. But NSH road conditions first world standard.

    Not sure how many toll stations and total cost. S$50 all in?
    Many thanks. I am shocked that the tolls could add up to S$50.

    I will start to move out of my comfort zone and drive up soon. My main fear is tire puncture or some strange malfunction to my car. If that happens I think I will be marooned.

    Sorry to go off topic on this thread!

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