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Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a year

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No wonder the heir of sulu wants to take back Malaysia

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In October last year, President Aquino described the territorial dispute with Malaysia over Sabah as “dormant at this point in time.”

While the Philippines’ pending claim to Sabah is dormant, the country has never relinquished its claim to Sabah and Kuala Lumpur continues to pay a yearly rent to the heirs of the sultan of Sulu.

The Philippines’ claim to Sabah (formerly North Borneo) is based on the historic ownership of the territory by the hereditary sultans of Sulu.

North Borneo, which used to be under the sultan of Brunei, was ceded to the sultan of Sulu in 1704 after the sultan of Sulu helped quell a rebellion instigated against the sultan of Brunei, according to descendants of Sultan Jamalul Ahlam of the kingdom of Sulu.

Sabah was leased to the British colonizers of what is now Malaysia in the late 19th century. In 1878, Ahlam leased Sabah to the British North Borneo Co. for 5,300 Mexican gold pieces a year. The company religiously remitted payments until 1936, when Sultan Jamalul Kiram II, the 32nd

sultan of Sulu, died.

The British consul in Manila recommended the suspension of payments because President Manuel L. Quezon did not recognize Kiram II’s successor. In 1950, Sultan Punjungan Kiram, crown prince of the sultanate at the time of Kiram II’s death, went to the British consulate in Manila to demand the resumption of payments.

Kiram II’s heirs also filed a case in the Sessions Court of North Borneo, which directed the British company to resume payments. The company complied for several years, but it stopped paying when its rights to Sabah were transferred to the newly established Federation of Malaysia in 1963. The new government assumed the payment but in ringgit.

Every year, the Malaysian Embassy in the Philippines issues a check in the amount of 5,300 ringgit (about P77,000) to the legal counsel of Ahlam’s descendants. Malaysia considers the amount an annual “cession” payment for the disputed state, while the sultan’s descendants consider it “rent.”—Kate Pedroso, Inquirer Research

Source: Inquirer Archives
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/64887/in-the-know-ph-claim-to-sabah-dormant-but-kl-pays-annual-rent
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Re: Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a ye

best way to resolve these kind of thing is to go to war......................before more oil is discovered there
 

ChoBohLan

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Re: Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a ye

best way to resolve these kind of thing is to go to war......................before more oil is discovered there

And send our generals there as peace keeping? whaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa
 

Devil Within

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Re: Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a ye

best way to resolve these kind of thing is to go to war......................before more oil is discovered there

The best way to resolve this is for the people of Sabah to revolt and get rid the country's monarchy and declare a true republic like France and then have referendum to decide if they want to join Malaysia or Philippine or become independent.
 
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eErotica69

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Re: Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a ye

The best way to resolve this is for the people of Sabah to revolt and get rid the country's monarchy and declare a true republic like France and then have referendum to decide if they want to join Malaysia or Philippine or become independent.

Bro simi, Sabah where got Monarchy?
 

Devil Within

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Re: Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a ye

Bro simi, Sabah where got Monarchy?

Sorry, my mistake. Sabah was under Sultan (King) of Brunei who gave it to Sultan (King) of Sulu who lease it to the British and the British then release to Malaysia Federation.

So technically, Sabah is still under Sultan of Sulu who now is with Philippine. That mean Sabah should declare independent from Sultan of Sulu like USA declare independent from the British King.
 
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syed putra

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Re: Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a ye

i think singapore still pay to sultan of johore and penang to sultan of kedah. And they will keep on paying until the sun and the moon disappear.
 

prancku

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Re: Malaysia win liao lor - from 5300 Mexican gold pieces a year to 5300 ringgit a ye

i think singapore still pay to sultan of johore and penang to sultan of kedah. And they will keep on paying until the sun and the moon disappear.

Discussion on Sabah became Singapore payment to Sultan of Johore? No head, no tail.

Pray, if you know, please provide details.
 

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So technically, Sabah is still under Sultan of Sulu who now is with Philippine. That mean Sabah should declare independent from Sultan of Sulu like USA declare independent from the British King.

How about Sarawak? Give it to Pinoys? Got diff meh?
 
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