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This Gilbert Goh is a confusing prick

YanDao

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I had been seeing this name on FB frequently and found out that he is the organiser for the coming protest in Hong Lim Park against the 6.9 millions White paper. I google him and if his full name is Goh Keow Wah, then he is one confusing prick. No wonder he has to crawl back to Singapore after trying to abandon Singapore for Australia. He is actually very pro-foreigner and openly wanted us to welcome the cheebye FTs and treat them well. So why is he so anti-foreigner now? He just want to be popular?

He left Singapore for Australia, couldn't survive there and even wrote about his failure in the papers.

Encourage foreign talent to stay
Tue, Nov 10, 2009
my paper

I REFER to Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong's recent speech, in which he spoke about managing the inflow of foreign talent in Singapore to ensure Singaporeans benefit from their presence.

Other countries in the world are trying to attract talent.

Hence, if Singapore is not aggressive in trying to woo talented migrants, it will face a serious brain drain.

After all, many Singaporeans have left the country for seemingly greener pastures.

Yet, for a small country like Singapore, there is a limit on the number of immigrants it can receive before overcrowding becomes a pressing issue. Overcrowding not only stresses the population, but also lowers the quality of life.

Job competition in a small economy is also challenging.

Compared to the situation five years ago, Singapore has become a more stressful society, due to serious overcrowding and the struggle to make ends meet.

Also, rising prices in the Housing Board resale market may be because of permanent residents chasing after resale flats.

Despite this, there is a role for foreigners here. I agree with SM Goh that foreigners working here should contribute to Singapore, in terms of skills and talent.

There will be those who will come to our country to earn as much as they can before returning home to enjoy their wealth.

It would be ideal if these foreigners remain in Singapore and become citizens here, so that they have a stake in the success of our country as well.

As Singapore continues to bring in more foreigners, let us try to welcome them. Doing otherwise will only make them temporary stayers.

More can be done to ensure that foreign talent remain in our country.


Those who come and go will not really help propel Singapore in the long term.

Mr Gilbert Goh Keow Wah
Sydney, Australia

''S’pore not that pricey''

myepaper.mypaper.sg

28.07.2008

MY FAMILY recentlymoved to Sydney, Australia, and we are still trying to come to terms with the high cost of living here.
The prices of most staples, such as bread and rice, are double those in Singapore.
To give you an idea of how expensive the Australian city is, here are more examples of the prices of some common items and services.

A five-minute bus trip costs A$1.80 (S$2.30) and a one-station train journey sets one back by A$2.60 – one way. A 10-minute taxi ride can be as
costly as A$8. The cheapest newspaper costs A$1, while a movie ticket is about A$12. A simple meal of noodles can cost as much as A$6.50.
As for homes, a two-bedroom apartment in the suburb costs about A$350 a week to rent, and that does not include any furnishings. To live within
5km of the city, one must be prepared to fork out at least A$600 a week.

If one wants to own a home here, it costs about A$400,000, with a mortgage repayment interest rate of 9.25 per cent per annum.
So far, I have not come across any government housing. Due to the high cost of dining out, my family eats out only once or twice a week. Eating out
at a food court, for example, costs about A$30 to A$40 for a family of three.

On the plus side, however, we have more family time together, as we cook at home and brainstorm ideas to make homecooked meals delicious.
Moving to Australia has made me realise something: We should not grumble too much about the cost of living in Singapore.

Many cities in the world have high costs of living, but in Singapore we have world-class infrastructure and facilities at relatively reasonable prices. It is no
wonder that many foreigners want to settle in Singapore.

Mr Gilbert Goh Keow Wah
Sydney, Australia

About racial harmony, respect and tolerance

Date : 30 July 2008

TODAY - Treat foreigners the way you want to be treated?

30 July 2008

Letter from Gilbert Goh Keow Wah,
Sydney, New South Wales

WHENEVER I read about the challenges facing permanent residents and work permit holders in Singapore, I have mixed feelings, for I am a Singaporean who has just left the country to live and work in Sydney. So far, in Australia, I have yet to face any of the discrimination of which I have been warned. But, I feel how foreigners in Singapore may feel and hope that the locals will welcome me, and not see me as a threat to their livelihood.

In Sydney, I have seen a medium-sized company of about 100 employees boasting people of 10 different nationalities.

Such a diverse workforce not only allows creativity to take place but also creates respect and tolerance for one another’s culture and religion.

There are two distinct nationalities settling down in Singapore: the Chinese and the Indians. They have formed almost 75 per cent of all our foreign talent for the past five years.

Many are competent professionals who are deserving of their residency in Singapore, but their cultural habits and working attitude are not much different from the local Chinese and Indian workforce. There is not much diversity they can bring to the workforce. In order to boast a strong cosmopolitan work force, our Government needs to cast the talent hunt search wider, from Europe, Africa, the United States and so on.

But, no matter where they originally come from, Singaporeans must welcome such foreign talents, which is what good global citizens should do. At the very least, we must not give them a hard time. For, one day, you may end up working and living abroad. Just like me.

(With thanks to TODAYonline.com)
 
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ray_of_hope

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He is very much reflective of a segment of opposition supporters. They recently began opposing the PAP only after their own situation changed for the worse. It is opposition born out of selfish reasons. As such they can easily reverse gear should the PAP throw things their way.
 

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Seems like the PAP IB hoodlums are out in full force today ...must be the protest rally tomorrow. The PAP just woke up to realize that the organizers of the protest are a threat.
 

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What did NSP Gilbert Goh write? WHy he need to apologies?

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The irony is that Gilbert Goh job-hopped and could never settle into a job or build career in Sg (BEFORE the influx of foreigners in recent years).

He then decided to move to Australia and seek his fortune as a foreign (un)talent there.

He could not find a job and resorted to setting up a pseudo-social support website collecting donations to survive on. Then he came back in 2011 to try his luck at the GE.

The irony is that if he were not Sgrean, he would have had difficulty being allowed into the labour force here as a foreign non-talent. Yet he is now the one paradoxically agitating against influx of foreigners. Also, he stirring xenophobia, that which he would have encountered in Australia as a social leech.
I just sent Gilbert Goh this message:

I have read many of your articles, and finding out who you were, what you stood for after knowing that you were fronting the protest. I’ve noted strands of xenophobia in your writing, and the article unearthed today on the “Characteristics and behaviour of our 1.8 million foreign population” truly shocked me. What I saw was the most racist and xenophobic material I’ve ever read in quite some time.

I really hope the event tomorrow won't turn out like that. I'm hoping you know actively that you shouldn't let your prejudices cloud you, especially on an event that will determine who we are, and what we stand for.

Simply put, this event is much bigger than you. So please choose his words carefully. Please, if you are who the words you write suggest, the image we send to the world will be one of xenophobia and racism. And trust me, we will lose this debate, and we can’t. Not on a policy direction as racist, dehumanising and discriminating as the White Paper.

I apologised to alll foreigners who are offended by the article on my transitioning website Characteristics and behaviours of foreigners living here. Its rude and insensiitve to their feelings. I am trying to remove the article but couldnt due to the sudden huge influx of readers. I have all along advocate that we should respect one another and dont want to stir unpleasant xenophobic sentiments within the country. Once again my sincere apologies and please forgive my insensitive article. I will ltake it down asap. Please forgive me. Plese come our event also and we want to welcome you on tht day.
 
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What Gilbert Goh said about foreigners in Singapore

This was written by Gilbert Goh of www.transitioning.org

Characteristics and behaviour of our 1.8 million foreign population

Number of View: 459

As our government continues to bring in 20,000 new citizens each year through the various easily-acquired work permits, Singaporeans continue to suffer in silence as there is nothing much that they can do except to wait for the balloting box every five years.

Many local Singaporeans also look at migration to other countries as the easiest way out and some parents even encourage their children to study and work abroad knowing that it is very difficult now with cheap foreigners competing against Singaporeans for work opportunities.

Starting salaries have gone down by at least 20% since last year and though we don’t have relevant official manpower statistics to support this, anecdoctal evidences from our pool of jobless PMETs have confirmed this fact.

Many jobless young PMETs have indicated that their pay was reduced by at least 20% from their previous salary range and more seriously, they remain the minority worker in their companies and are dominated by foreign workers in the ir work places.

Some have also told me that they are hired because one of the foreign worker’s work permit is not being renewed by MOM or they were hired to make up for the foreign-local worker quota.

Employers continue to hire foreign workers as they are cheaper, younger and educated. Many are hired using the S-Pass category with a pay scale of $2000 and 2-year contract.

More than 1.8 million foreigners lived among a population of 5.18 million and their presence is overwhelming. Half a million of them has attained permanent residencies and they carry the strongest chance of converting into citizens.

Transitioning will attempt to draw up a profile of each foreign nationality and wants to reiterate that we are not anti-foreigner here:-

1. PRC Chinese
Population: 800, 000
Personality: Business-minded, hard working but can be a show-off for those who are rich
Favourite hangout: Chinatown (they also took over a bulk of the businesses there)
Popular jobs: F & B, own businesses, entertainment, construction
Pay range: Depend on kind of jobs acquired but between $1500 to $2500 usually.
Niche skills: Business
Bad habit: Likes to talk aloud in public places oblivious to local environment. Seen as brash and rude. Women also portrayed as husband snatchers as many divorces occurred because our local men got involved with Chinese women here. They remain the number one public enemy of our local population now due to a spate of badly-publicised stunts.
Favourite past time: Working, shopping and eating
Social integration: Average as tend to talk only in mainland Mandarin and can’t communicate well in English with locals. Needs to brush up English so that they can integrate well with locals. Many young Chinese are also scholars picked from poor villages in China to study here with allowances.
Citizenship: Some PRC Chinese won’t mind becoming citizens if they have good jobs here but the abundance of opportunities in China now may lure some to return home. Many PRC Chinese like our hassle-free travelling benefit associated with our passport and many have use us as a stepping stone to apply for PRs in Australia, New Zealand and United States. However, many of them don’t like our humid weather here and lamented at our limited space.
Latest bugbear: A rich Chinese PR crashed his Ferrrari into a taxi killing himself, the taxi driver and a passenger at Rochor Road. Numerous other recent clashes with locals suggested that PRC Chinese immigrants may have difficulty assimiliating with Singaporeans whom they secretly look down upon. The PRC Chinese are also the ones who demonstrated at MOM twice last year against local employers for errant salary payment and may be troublesome on law and order issues.

2. Indians
Population: 400, 000
Personality: Polite and well mannered
Favourite hangout: Little India
Popular jobs: IT, management, construction, shipping
Pay range: If working in IT banking jobs pay can be between $3000 – $5000 depending on work experience
Niche skills: IT programming and software – tens of thousands of Indians work in the lucrative IT sector
Bad habit: Tend to group among themselves even in the workplaces and oblivious to local environment
Favourite past time: Working, eating, going to parks
Social integration: Don’t seem to integrate well with locals as they all group together among themselves even though many speak good English with an Indian slang. They also don’t mix well with our local Indians here and may even be viewed with envy as most of them are well educated and have good jobs.
Citizenship: Many Indians won’t mind becoming citizens here especially if they have a good job and house. However, if we bring in too many Indian citizens, it will change the multi-racial demographics alot especially when our Malay counterparts feel sidelined at the employment front.
Latest bugbear: Nil so far and remain the model immigrant with few social problem from this nationality.

3. Filipinos
Population: 200, 000 (80, 000 domestic helpers)
Personality: Friendly and polite
Favourite hangout: Orchard Road and Lucky Plaza remains the Filipino favourite shopping mall for the past two decades
Popular jobs: F & B, healthcare, entertainment, administration, executive
Pay range: Between $1500 – $2000 depending on work scope and experience
Niche skills: Service industry as tens of thosuands of them work in the two integrated resorts and many hotels here. Speak the best tagalog-accented English here among all the nationalities and highly sought after by tele-marketeering companies.
Bad habit: Tends to group among themselves alot forming cliques in the work places. Likes to bring in their own kind to the office as replacement. Speaks tagalog loudly in public places oblivious to public environment.
Favourite part time: Shopping, singing, going to parks
Social integration: Don’t really see them integrating much with locals even in the work places. Use alot of tagalog among themselves to ostracise locals at work. Seen as political and manipulative. They are also the most united among the many nationalities that congregate in Singapore and tend to take care of each other well.
Citizenship: Some Filipinos won’t mind becoming citizens but many are still fiercely patriotic and will return home after making enough money here. They also prefer to emigrate permanently to US, Australia and New Zealand.
Latest bugbear: Though they do not misbehave as publicly as the PRC Chinese, Singaporeans do not really take to them well as they tend to group among themselves and live in their own world. At the work places, they are not the best of workers to work with and tend to take care of their own kind only.

4. Myarmese
Population: 50, 000
Personality: Friendly and well mannered
Favourite hangout: Mostly town area
Popular jobs: Executive in most sectors
Pay range: $1500 to $2500 depending on work experience
Niche skills: Organised, listen to instructions
Bad habit: None so far
Favourite past time: Shopping, eating, upgrading one’s skills
Social integration: Like many other nationalities, they don’t integrate well with our locals though they speak decent English as many are educated here. However, employers have so far sang praises of their work ethics and this nationality remains their top choice for foreign hiring.
Citizenship: Many Myarmese won’t mind converting into citizens as their country is still backward and lacking in opportunities.
Latest bugbear: None so far

5. Vietnamese
Population: 30, 000
Personality: Friendly and sociable
Favourite hangout: Joo Chiat
Popular jobs: Entertainment, F & B, office administration
Pay range: $1000 – $2000 depending on work experience
Niche skills: entertainment-related
Bad habit: None so far but some are seen as husband snatchers as many divorces happened because of affairs with petite soft-spoken Vietnamese women. Their publicised foray into vices at Joo Chiat also tarnished their image here.
Favourite past time: Drinking, eating, socialising
Social integration: As many Vietnamese do not speak English well they have difficulty integrating into our society. Tend to group among themselves for security and comfort.
Citizenship: Many Vietnamese won’t mind becoming citizens here due to our infrastructure and abundant opportunities compared to their own country. Vietnamese women also like our local men but the langauge barrier is a challenge.
Latest bugbear: None so far.

6. Caucusians
Population: 100, 000 (from all over)
Personality: Friendly, pleasant
Favourite hangout: Clarke Quay
Popular Jobs: Senior managerial positions, consultant, banking executives
Pay range: $5000 – $20, 000 depending on work experience
Niche skills: Consulting, communication, leadership
Bad habit: Tend to be seen as aloof and detached. May look down on the local people here due to their enhanced job scope and pay scale. Men may also flirt around with our local gals with some boasting that they could freely get into bed with them.
Favourite past time: Fine dining, sports, travelling, arts and music
Social integration: Men tend to mix better with our local women who flock to them. Other than that, there is little integration seen with the general population as many stay in expensive exclusive condos. Children also study in expensive international schools further alienating them from the mainstream.
Citizenship: Not many ang moh will want to become citizens as many just want to work and have fun here. They also dislike our country’s strict laws and gum-free society. Probably less than 1% of them will want to become citizens here but they remain our local gals’ perfect dream for a potential husband.
Latest bugbear: None so far though their exclusive lifestyle may draw envy from the local population. With a local colonist white supremacy mindset, many whites are well respected here though their brash mannerism – especially when they are drinking – may draw some criticism from the locals. They also need to be more careful when befriending our local gals in the pubs as there are many fights occurring because of this.

7. Indonesians
Population: 10, 000
Personality: Warm and friendly
Favourite hangout: Orchard Road
Popular jobs: Office, business-related
Pay range: $1500 – $2500 depending on experience but many go into businesses
Niche skills: Business development especially for the Indonesian Chinese
Bad habit: Tend to spend as if there is no tomorrow
Favourite past time: Shopping and spending money
Social integration: Though they can speak dialects for the Indonesian Chinese, many do not seem to intergrate well with our locals. They are also scattered all over the island with little concentration but many rich Indonesians have bought expensive private housing for investment.
Citizenship: Many Indonesians will want to be citizens here due to our safe environment. Probably more than 50% of Indonesian PRs will want to become citizens here.
Latest bugbear: None so far but wealthy Indonesians tend to use our country for money laundering due to the lax banking secrecy act here. Singapore remains their first choice of destination for emigration due to our safe environment and many Indonesians will want to be citizens here.

8. Malaysians
Population: 500, 000
Personality: Hard working and business minded
Favourite hangout: All over
Popular jobs: Executive, managerial, logistics, businesses. Many Malaysians have became successful corporate CEOs such as the infamous ex-SMRT CEO Ms Saw and Hyflux CEO. Dr Goh Keng Swee – our ex-defence minister and DPM is also from Malaysia and so is Housing Minister Khaw Boon Wan.
Pay range: $2000 – $5000 depending on work experience
Niche skills: Many Malaysians study in Singapore when they are young and move up the educational path together with local Singaporeans. I have heard of many Malaysians heading big corporations and seen to be doing very well. Many may now have migrated to Australia or the US during this period of mass foreign influx.
Bad habit: None so far
Favourite past time: Working and accumulating wealth
Social integration: By far the most integrated lot of the foreigners working here due to the close proximity with our country. Long accepted as one of our own and mostly welcomed to become citizens. In fact, our government should focus on this group and try to convert as many Malaysians to become citizens as possible as they are well accepted and has integrated into our society for a long time. Many Malaysians have also married our locals and their children have become citizens serving national service.
Citizenship: Many Malaysians have became citizens probably numbering well over 100, 000 throughout the past decade and lived among us like local Singaporeans due to similar culture and tradition. However, there is still a sizeable group of Malaysian PRs who do not want to convert into citizens for personal reasons.
Latest bugbear: None so far.

Written by: Gilbert Goh

 

laksaboy

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2. Indians
Population: 400, 000
Personality: Polite and well mannered

3. Filipinos
Population: 200, 000 (80, 000 domestic helpers)
Personality: Friendly and polite

Well well, Gilbert Goh is not very well-informed, is he?
 

independentdirect

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Re: What Gilbert Goh said about foreigners in Singapore

Beware ... Gilbert Goh may appear very anti-foreigner, but actually he is a wolf in sheep clothing. He is actually VERY PRO FOREIGNER AND PRO FOREIGN TALENT POLICY.

And by the way, he took up permanent residency in Australia. Hehehe.....


About racial harmony, respect and tolerance

Date : 30 July 2008

TODAY - Treat foreigners the way you want to be treated?

30 July 2008

Letter from Gilbert Goh Keow Wah,
Sydney, New South Wales


WHENEVER I read about the challenges facing permanent residents and work permit holders in Singapore, I have mixed feelings, for I am a Singaporean who has just left the country to live and work in Sydney. So far, in Australia, I have yet to face any of the discrimination of which I have been warned. But, I feel how foreigners in Singapore may feel and hope that the locals will welcome me, and not see me as a threat to their livelihood.

In Sydney, I have seen a medium-sized company of about 100 employees boasting people of 10 different nationalities.

Such a diverse workforce not only allows creativity to take place but also creates respect and tolerance for one another’s culture and religion.

There are two distinct nationalities settling down in Singapore: the Chinese and the Indians. They have formed almost 75 per cent of all our foreign talent for the past five years.

Many are competent professionals who are deserving of their residency in Singapore, but their cultural habits and working attitude are not much different from the local Chinese and Indian workforce. There is not much diversity they can bring to the workforce. In order to boast a strong cosmopolitan work force, our Government needs to cast the talent hunt search wider, from Europe, Africa, the United States and so on.

But, no matter where they originally come from, Singaporeans must welcome such foreign talents, which is what good global citizens should do. At the very least, we must not give them a hard time. For, one day, you may end up working and living abroad. Just like me.

(With thanks to TODAYonline.com)
 

independentdirect

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Re: What Gilbert Goh said about foreigners in Singapore

Another pro FT letter by Gilbert Goh......

Wa lao eh .... Gilbert Goh really says one thing but does another.

FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP !!


Encourage foreign talent to stay
Tue, Nov 10, 2009
my paper

I REFER to Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong's recent speech, in which he spoke about managing the inflow of foreign talent in Singapore to ensure Singaporeans benefit from their presence.

Other countries in the world are trying to attract talent.

Hence, if Singapore is not aggressive in trying to woo talented migrants, it will face a serious brain drain.

After all, many Singaporeans have left the country for seemingly greener pastures.

Yet, for a small country like Singapore, there is a limit on the number of immigrants it can receive before overcrowding becomes a pressing issue. Overcrowding not only stresses the population, but also lowers the quality of life.

Job competition in a small economy is also challenging.

Compared to the situation five years ago, Singapore has become a more stressful society, due to serious overcrowding and the struggle to make ends meet.

Also, rising prices in the Housing Board resale market may be because of permanent residents chasing after resale flats.

Despite this, there is a role for foreigners here. I agree with SM Goh that foreigners working here should contribute to Singapore, in terms of skills and talent.

There will be those who will come to our country to earn as much as they can before returning home to enjoy their wealth.

It would be ideal if these foreigners remain in Singapore and become citizens here, so that they have a stake in the success of our country as well.

As Singapore continues to bring in more foreigners, let us try to welcome them. Doing otherwise will only make them temporary stayers.

More can be done to ensure that foreign talent remain in our country.


Those who come and go will not really help propel Singapore in the long term.

Mr Gilbert Goh Keow Wah
Sydney, Australia

 

independentdirect

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Well well, Gilbert Goh is not very well-informed, is he?


Not only is Gilbert Goh very ill informed, but he is also a flip flop who changes his stance at a drop of a hat to suit the mood.

Me thinks he is after popularity rather than for the welfare of Singaporeans.
 

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Re: What Gilbert Goh said about foreigners in Singapore

I have to disagree with his assessment of Indonesian Chinese intention to become citizens. Why would they want to give up Indonesian citizenship? It might not be convenient but the country has more opportunity than Spore. No way that they will give up their Indo citizenship just to serve NS:wink:

In fact I know of Sporeans going to Indonesia & doing well. You don't need a degree there & if you know what you are doing, people get to know about it by word of mouth.
 

independentdirect

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Re: What Gilbert Goh said about foreigners in Singapore

I have to disagree with his assessment of Indonesian Chinese intention to become citizens. Why would they want to give up Indonesian citizenship? It might not be convenient but the country has more opportunity than Spore. No way that they will give up their Indo citizenship just to serve NS:wink:

In fact I know of Sporeans going to Indonesia & doing well. You don't need a degree there & if you know what you are doing, people get to know about it by word of mouth.



I am glad Gilbert Goh's ignorant rantings have not gotten past you.

That guy is an idiot if he thinks everyone is so gullible to believe what he has posted about the 8 different nationalities.
 

johnny333

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Re: What Gilbert Goh said about foreigners in Singapore

Beware ... Gilbert Goh may appear very anti-foreigner, but actually he is a wolf in sheep clothing. He is actually VERY PRO FOREIGNER AND PRO FOREIGN TALENT POLICY.

And by the way, he took up permanent residency in Australia. Hehehe.....


I had a colleague who was also an ardent PAP supporter but held an Aussie PR. She quit her job in Spore because she didn't want to lose that PR:rolleyes:

Maybe it was because "she" never served NS which PM Lee claims that NS is what makes the Sporean national identity:biggrin:
 

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Re: What Gilbert Goh said about foreigners in Singapore

At least Siew Kum Hong has finally demonstrated some common sense. I was going to go to the event but after I considered some things I decided no.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?145026-This-Gilbert-Goh-is-a-confusing-prick


SKH is taking flak online because people out there want to go to the event and cannot accept that others are shouting Gilbert down.

In any case, I am not going either. Gilbert's attitude and posture all along has been troubling to me. I would be worried if his ideas seep into opposition politics.
 

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Seems like the PAP IB hoodlums are out in full force today ...must be the protest rally tomorrow. The PAP just woke up to realize that the organizers of the protest are a threat.


The PAP is worried about no such thing. Gilbert is a loose cannon who will shoot himself in the foot repeatedly until all his toes are in his mouth. I would say the PAP would gladly let Gilbert do this protest and hope he or some of his organizers act in a way that would give the SCM ammunition.

Look at his so-called track record as an "activist". Seems like anyone who can't make it in the real world uses that term liberally to describe themselves.
 

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-double post..zz-
 
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The PAP is worried about no such thing. Gilbert is a loose cannon who will shoot himself in the foot repeatedly until all his toes are in his mouth. I would say the PAP would gladly let Gilbert do this protest and hope he or some of his organizers act in a way that would give the SCM ammunition.

Look at his so-called track record as an "activist". Seems like anyone who can't make it in the real world uses that term liberally to describe themselves.

He is indeed very much a loose cannon. Prior to the PEBE he wrote a lengthy piece as to why he felt it was unlikely that WP would win. He claimed that CSM was not part of WP's CEC and said that this had to do with some internal intrigue in the party. Then there is the fact that he was linked to the below story, which I found very troubling:

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20110827-296490.html

That is why I said to people that it is the background of the organisers and some of the people speaking at the Hong Lim event that puts me off going.
 

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nsp has to fight off pap and wp in future political battles. gilbert has every right to be concerned about his political future , he has to start writing off wp. it's an uphill task. but his organising of this protest is a great move to uphold the nsp brand and credit himself.

He is indeed very much a loose cannon. Prior to the PEBE he wrote a lengthy piece as to why he felt it was unlikely that WP would win. He claimed that CSM was not part of WP's CEC and said that this had to do with some internal intrigue in the party. Then there is the fact that he was linked to the below story, which I found very troubling:

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20110827-296490.html

That is why I said to people that it is the background of the organisers and some of the people speaking at the Hong Lim event that puts me off going.
 
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