Leader Board - Punggol East By Elections

scroobal · Dec 28, 2012

Here is the leader board in terms of votes expected to be scored. Lets hear your version of the leaderboard.

Note: ranking determined by expected appeal. Example, Gerald Giam is at least 1 major rank away from JJ and VW. The latter 2 are very close.

1. Yee Jenn Jong
2. Vincent Wijeysingha
3.
4. Gerald Giam
5.
6. Ben Swee
7. Lee Li Lian
8. Kenneth Jeyaretnam
9. Teo So Lung
10.Desmond Lim

zhihau · Dec 28, 2012

bro,
where's GMS's name?

TracyTan866 · Dec 28, 2012

scroobal said:
Here is the leader board in terms of votes expected to be scored. Lets hear your version of the leaderboard.

Note: ranking determined by expected appeal. Example, Gerald Giam is at least 1 major rank away from JJ and VW. The latter 2 are very close.

1. Yee Jenn Jong
2. Vincent Wijeysingha
3.
4. Gerald Giam
5.
6. Ben Swee
7. Lee Li Lian
8. Kenneth Jeyaretnam
9. Teo So Lung
10.Desmond Lim

As a side issue, shd WP consider YJJ and GG for PE since they are already NCMPs in Parliament. i think it is better for WP to try and get another WP candidate into Parliament

scroobal · Dec 28, 2012

GMS, Jufrie, etc are rank outsiders. Both are known politically as rabbits having jumped from party to party.

zhihau said:
bro,
where's GMS's name?

jw5 · Dec 28, 2012

I wouldn't mind seeing a contest among the following 3:

1. Vincent
2. YJJ
3. Ong Ye Kung

A result of 40-30-30 would be the icing on the cake for me, if it means that YJJ can still keep his NCMP seat and OYK will be watching Today In Parliament on TV. :p

scroobal · Dec 28, 2012

I don't think they have any other candidate. Their recruitment process is so tight that even good candidates will not consider them as the process seems more important that the candidate.

If WP prefer to hold JJ for East Coast GRC slate, then they should withdraw if other parties have better candidates. My sense is that if WP decides that East Coast is important and where they have better inroads, then they will offer Li Lian.

TracyTan866 said:
As a side issue, shd WP consider YJJ and GG for PE since they are already NCMPs in Parliament. i think it is better for WP to try and get another WP candidate into Parliament

TracyTan866 · Dec 28, 2012

scroobal said:
I don't think they have any other candidate. Their recruitment process is so tight that even good candidates will not consider them as the process seems more important that the candidate.

If WP prefer to hold JJ for East Coast GRC slate, then they should withdraw if other parties have better candidates. My sense is that if WP decides that East Coast is important and where they have better inroads, then they will offer Li Lian.

I agree..

It's good to confuse LHL..

scroobal · Dec 28, 2012

Prior to the Vasoo incident, I would have rated VW higher than JJ as VW is indeed a better candidate. Now however he has baggage which with time will overcome but expect the PAP to be relentless about it. JJ on the other hand has been very slippery where the PAP is conerned. They have not be able to nail him. One is practically dead.

jw5 said:
I wouldn't mind seeing a contest among the following 3:

1. Vincent
2. YJJ
3. Ong Ye Kung

A result of 40-30-30 would be the icing on the cake for me, if it means that YJJ can still keep his NCMP seat and OYK will be watching Today In Parliament on TV. :p

tualingong · Dec 28, 2012

TJS should run for election. He already got 25% baseline sahpot already.

If TCB don't run in Punggol. He sure win!

Cannot be President, MP also not bad. Some power. :biggrin:

scroobal · Dec 28, 2012

Only in Singapore you get 25% of votes despite running a company to the ground so badly that the British owners could not sell it.

tualingong said:
TJS should run for election. He already got 25% baseline sahpot already.

If TCB don't run in Punggol. He sure win!

Cannot be President, MP also not bad. Some power.

zhihau · Dec 28, 2012

jw5 said:
A result of 40-30-30 would be the icing on the cake for me, if it means that YJJ can still keep his NCMP seat and OYK will be watching Today In Parliament on TV. :p

me second this idea :p:p:p

GoldenDragon · Dec 28, 2012

scroobal said:
GMS, Jufrie, etc are rank outsiders. Both are known politically as rabbits having jumped from party to party.

THEY always do!

GoldenDragon · Dec 28, 2012

TracyTan866 said:
I agree..

It's good to confuse LHL..

Sis, LHL will never be confused when it comes to intel on opposition parties. Trust me on this. Many are paid to service the interest of the MIW. Of course our learned PM always confused when it comes to most other matters.

aurvandil · Dec 28, 2012

What are the odds of KJ disbanding RP and running under WP?

GoldenDragon · Dec 28, 2012

aurvandil said:
What are the odds of KJ disbanding RP and running under WP?

Close to zero, bro. Quite certain KJ considers himself head and shoulders above LTK and company. KJ is similar to another. They think too highly of themselves.

aurvandil · Dec 28, 2012

Here's my predicion.

Of all the parties expressing an interest, only SDP and WP are serious contenders. If RP/SDA take part, they will destroy themselves aka TKL.

If SDP fields VW/CSJ, WP will take them head on. They still haven't signed a heavyweight. Assuming they don't sign one, they will put up LL and concede the three corner to PAP. This is because while they know they will lose to PAP, they are confident of beating VW/CSJ in the 3 corner. This victory over VW/CSJ by one of their weakest candidates will give them tremendous leverage in 2016.

WP will however likely back down if SDP fields TJS. If TJS stands, they will have to field JJ/GG to even have a chance of holding their own. Since these are already in Parliament, there is little incentive to do so. Hence better to let TJS have his shot. As a former PE candidate, TJS has credentials which PAP will have trouble matching.

cunnilaubu · Dec 28, 2012

I think WP will keep JJ as NCMP and field him in 2016 in EC, assuming JC disappears.
If he is field, he has to resign as NCMP. I don't think this is the kind of risk LTK is prepare to take.
Same for GG. The likely candidate therefore will be LLL.

CSJ is barred for this BE by virtual of his conviction in 2010. That leaves VW the likely and better SDP candidate.
I am surprise though that SDP decides to participate knowing full well that a 3-corner fight will most certainly gave PE back to PAP.

The rest are just wasting everybody's time.

scroobal · Dec 28, 2012

Too much of bad blood between both sides from the Father's days. KJ getting a sex change is more likely.

aurvandil said:
What are the odds of KJ disbanding RP and running under WP?

scroobal · Dec 28, 2012

I agree with some of the thoughts expressed here.

It is between SDP and WP. It will depend on the candidates offered by both parties. If it is JJ, SDP will yield but will seek concession or promise for 2016. WP will agree to the promise or concession if VW is the candidate proposed. If JJ is not the candidate offered, and SDP offers VW, WP will yield. Both sides will walk away with great amount of goodwill. I don't see any other scenario being played.

The rest can wank themselves silly.

Goh Meng Seng · Dec 28, 2012

Scroobal, you are really losing the plot here.

JJ is already in parliament and it really doesn't make any difference if he wins but it will put WP at risk by losing one seat in parliament if he lost! i.e. he will have to resign from NCMP to contest.

JJ is NOT an option at all.

Goh Meng Seng

scroobal said:
I agree with some of the thoughts expressed here.

It is between SDP and WP. It will depend on the candidates offered by both parties. If it is JJ, SDP will yield but will seek concession or promise for 2016. WP will agree to the promise or concession if VW is the candidate proposed. If JJ is not the candidate offered, and SDP offers VW, WP will yield. Both sides will walk away with great amount of goodwill. I don't see any other scenario being played.

The rest can wank themselves silly.

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