Puteri Harbour Community

GilaPH said:

I seriously dun get it. Why shud i pay extra for parking on top of the monthly conservancy charges?

Can any1 explain?

Is any other service apartment doing this? Parking fee and conservancy fee is 2 separate fees?

Btw, extra carpark lots can be bought at RM35k per lot. This i checked with the lawyers. Gulp-!

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My Q&A with Developer recently:

Q: By accessorizes the car park, is there any fee chargeable to the accessory car park?

A: Yes, maintenance fees apply, calculation based on Share Unit, estimated RM22.32 per bay.


Q: Also, will the monthly maintenance fee delete accordingly from the Fifth Schedule?

A: Yes, thus, maintenance fees for common facilities will be reduced.


Q: The change of Central Waste Vacuum which shall be equipped in each parcel, to a common Central Waste Collection System at each floor, what is the compensation to the unit owners?

A: Beside offer carpark ownership to our buyers, there is no other compensaton.

Grago said:

Without Prejudice, I would strongly suggest those of you who have NOT signed the Supplementary Agreement to seek legal advice as to your rights.

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My Q&A with Developer recently:

Q: As per the SPA, does a purchaser own the car park bay ? (by the way, the sales executive told me my parcel "comes with" two units of car park bays)

A: Yes, your unit allocated with 2 car park bays, but purchaser does not own them, they are part of Common Facilities.


Q: When the purchaser resale his parcel, is he selling his parcel only without the car park bay ?

A: After car park bay ownership transferred to purchaser, they are accessorized to the main parcel (condo unit), but they can not be sold separately (it is a Housing Act regulation). Nevertheless, they are added value items to 2nd hand selling price.


Q: Who own the car park bay (common facilities) of Imperia Condo by the way?

A: Developer now, and Management Corporation (MC) after strata title issued


Q: By accessorize the car park bay as per Supplementary Agreement, the purchaser then only owns the car park bay ?

A: Yes.

joe88 said:

Uncle PuteriWorld, please tell us what you know (your opinion) of PH, Pinewood, Kota Iskandar etc.. I have not been to Iskandar, but I have brought a unit at PH.. Hopefully did not make a wrong decision.. Thanks

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You mean you have purchased a unit at Puteri Harbour BUT you haven't been even to Iskandar? You haven't been to PH and you snap up a unit there? You are very brave my friend.

Hold it and use it as your holiday home. Its a really nice place to chill out regardless of the RM 20 levy, RM 100 toll, or 50% price drop.

Afterall, if you read the papers, Holland Road FREEHOLD land cost just 10 cent PSF in 1940

GilaPH said:

It cud also be that IskandarRocks was the earliest batch of buyers so his Sales Agreement differs from us??? This is only an assumption......i could be wrong.

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That's what I suspect. Particularly the Sales Package. As per bro Grago's post, seems like they included 2 carpark lots in the sales package list for the later buyers of the 3 bedders. No mention in my sales package.

After carefully going through all of my paperwork, I am quite convinced that I am much better off signing the Supplimentary Agreement.

Pioneer should get free 3 car park lots!:p

PuteriWorld said:

You mean you have purchased a unit at Puteri Harbour BUT you haven't been even to Iskandar? You haven't been to PH and you snap up a unit there? You are very brave my friend.

Hold it and use it as your holiday home. Its a really nice place to chill out regardless of the RM 20 levy, RM 100 toll, or 50% price drop.

Afterall, if you read the papers, Holland Road FREEHOLD land cost just 10 cent PSF in 1940

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Chill la.......its joe88 money afterall. There are many investors like him. Buying w/o seeing the actual stuff. They are usually the uber rich. Lol!

Sorry, not the rich one.. staying HDB (parent house)... the price there is easier to stomach than sg.. hopefully can sell it soon...

GilaPH said:

Chill la.......its joe88 money afterall. There are many investors like him. Buying w/o seeing the actual stuff. They are usually the uber rich. Lol!

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GilaPH said:

Chill la.......its joe88 money afterall. There are many investors like him. Buying w/o seeing the actual stuff. They are usually the uber rich. Lol!

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msia hasnt reached that stage i think when buyers give blank chqs to agents which i did for several pty in spore. of course if one is so troubled with their iskandar pty now that every negative news make them bite their fingers then i am sorry to say 'its a bad move'. but bad move or not, if yours is at ph then take heart; developments like encorp, teega and imperia are fully sold notwithstanding sormerset and jens hotel which are running full swing. like puteriworld has said, go and see for yourself joe88 at least once and you will know even if najib is kicked out, you can still live comfortably at ph when residents start to occupy. and if you know human dynamics, when people traffic gather enmassed, like sugar, ants will come. need i say more?

just think. if there is no pty curbs, no extra tolls and vehicle levies, no sultanate and state self interest; even if political bickering persists, i believe pty investment will still be tops. the chinese have made their calculations, just wait and see, they will build first.

the HSR and the exact nusajaya location will be announced soon. businessman are awaiting such news just like us, they want a bigger pie for themselves and like i have said when residents start moving into ph and the ferries start running btwn the two countries, you mean you still need to worry what will happen to your ph pty. dont you know that there are executives waiting to move out of units like ujana apartments and elsewhere in leisure farm and horizon? in fact i last heard some had already taken long term stay at somerset and jens hotel. they probably have bigger overseas subsidies. why then ph? for that u can read puteriworlds several observations in his earlier posts here.

but i still urge joe88 to just go and see!
i like this ph video the best

Thanks menghuii, am hopping the ferry service will be ready soon.. so that can go over to take a look, no $$$ to own a car here... Depending on public transportation... is too much effort...

menghuii said:

msia hasnt reached that stage i think when buyers give blank chqs to agents which i did for several pty in spore. of course if one is so troubled with their iskandar pty now that every negative news make them bite their fingers then i am sorry to say 'its a bad move'. but bad move or not, if yours is at ph then take heart; developments like encorp, teega and imperia are fully sold notwithstanding sormerset and jens hotel which are running full swing. like puteriworld has said, go and see for yourself joe88 at least once and you will know even if najib is kicked out, you can still live comfortably at ph when residents start to occupy. and if you know human dynamics, when people traffic gather enmassed, like sugar, ants will come. need i say more?

the HSR and the exact nusajaya location will be announced soon. businessman are awaiting such news just like us, they want a bigger pie for themselves and like i have said when residents start moving into ph and the ferries start running btwn the two countries, you mean you still need to worry what will happen to your ph pty. dont you know that there are executives waiting to move out of units like ujana apartments and elsewhere in leisure farm and horizon? in fact i last heard some had already taken long term stay at somerset and jens hotel. they probably have bigger overseas subsidies. why then ph? for that u can read puteriworlds several observations in his earlier posts here.

but i still urge joe88 to just go and see!
i like this ph video the best

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Thanks Menghuii. I have been to PH to visit even when Traders hotel was a huge tract of land. Its really amazing how the place has developed, seriously.

Every few weeks I make it a point to visit the place and realise how things have changed. They are not only attracting Sporeans but tourists from all over the world. One thing I noted is that those shops facing the public marina might closed down when the likes of the shops from Almas or Puteri Cove Residences are opened for business. PCR, with a Spore developer rolling out the retails might be better able to attract the likes of Macdonals, Subway, Jumbo Seafood, Paradise, Ding Tai Fung etc to open shop there as it is facing a full-fledge condo ( SMR ) and the private marina with an iconic convention centre and clubhouse within views.

Frankly speaking, the RM 20 or 50 levy simply dont bother me. The oversupply of condos makes no difference to my investment. I am vested in PH for long term of 10-20 years and prefer to hang around this place when I am in Malaysia. I have hung around Leisure Farm, HH, East Ledang and Bukit Indah etc and still feel PH is the best place for me to relax. HH and EL/Leisure are too far away from civilisation and shops. Bukit Indah is like Bedok Central in Singapore. Thanks I now have a place to park my Jap sedan in peace while I relax by the bay

Me too am committed to my investements in Somerset Puteri Harbour for the next 10 years. Looking forward to my first rental cheque next month ;p

PuteriWorld said:

Thanks Menghuii. I have been to PH to visit even when Traders hotel was a huge tract of land. Its really amazing how the place has developed, seriously.

Every few weeks I make it a point to visit the place and realise how things have changed. They are not only attracting Sporeans but tourists from all over the world. One thing I noted is that those shops facing the public marina might closed down when the likes of the shops from Almas or Puteri Cove Residences are opened for business. PCR, with a Spore developer rolling out the retails might be better able to attract the likes of Macdonals, Subway, Jumbo Seafood, Paradise, Ding Tai Fung etc to open shop there as it is facing a full-fledge condo ( SMR ) and the private marina with an iconic convention centre and clubhouse within views.

Frankly speaking, the RM 20 or 50 levy simply dont bother me. The oversupply of condos makes no difference to my investment. I am vested in PH for long term of 10-20 years and prefer to hang around this place when I am in Malaysia. I have hung around Leisure Farm, HH, East Ledang and Bukit Indah etc and still feel PH is the best place for me to relax. HH and EL/Leisure are too far away from civilisation and shops. Bukit Indah is like Bedok Central in Singapore. Thanks I now have a place to park my Jap sedan in peace while I relax by the bay

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Dfiris said:

Me too am committed to my investements in Somerset Puteri Harbour for the next 10 years. Looking forward to my first rental cheque next month ;p

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Congrats!

Just wondering what happened to the marina facing units that were launched later. As far as I remember, GRR was not offered for those. Have they also been taken up by Somerset?

Not too sure on tat.. hope someone whom bought it could reply

IskandarRocks said:

Congrats!

Just wondering what happened to the marina facing units that were launched later. As far as I remember, GRR was not offered for those. Have they also been taken up by Somerset?

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Dfiris said:

Not too sure on tat.. hope someone whom bought it could reply

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Just curious. Incidentally, did an internet search and could not find a single unit for sale or rent (other than those through Somerset).

Had a couple of bad reviews initially, but that is expected of a brand new place. They are getting better though. I think people are not happy with the simple breakfast, other than that looks pretty good .......

http://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/Hotel...a-Johor_Bahru_Johor_Bahru_District_Johor.html

Dfiris said:

Not too sure on tat.. hope someone whom bought it could reply

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Actually when I stayed there, I asked for marina facing units, they said all were private units.

Funniman said:

Actually when I stayed there, I asked for marina facing units, they said all were private units.

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Interesting, so no one is selling nor renting out these units. Unless, they are yet to be handed out, as they were launched later .....

IskandarRocks said:

Interesting, so no one is selling nor renting out these units. Unless, they are yet to be handed out, as they were launched later .....

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Well, my experience is.... if there is a cashflow on my unit, I see no need in selling my unit unless the price is right..

Funniman said:

Actually when I stayed there, I asked for marina facing units, they said all were private units.

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Mebbe its all reserved for long term tenants oredi.....

malpaso said:

Not that I want to kpo here, but accessory parcel is not common property , it is as the term implies - an accessory area attached to the "main" parcel ie owned by parcel owner. The accessory parcel (car park lot) needs to be clearly identified in your strata title when it is finally issued. So do take it up with developer to ensure that your accessory parcels will be included in your (to be issued) strata title deeds in future. Only those car park lots that are not accessorized with parcels fall under common property. All accessory parcels shown on the title deed cannot be separately sold from the parcel. There also shouldn't be separate maintenance charges levied on your accessory parcel either. If that's the case, It seems to me developer (and, in future, the MC) is merely renting out the car park to you on a long term basis, and these car parks hence fall under common property - not accessory parcel.

http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/5949/car-parks-in-high-rise-development

http://leongdeikun.blogspot.sg/2011/07/accessory-parcel-in-strata-development.html

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Thank you for the links that clarifies the question for the recent Imperia issue. Couldn't up your Reputation points as appreciation for your effort as "I have to spread reputation around before I can contribute to you again"......

Dfiris said:

Well, my experience is.... if there is a cashflow on my unit, I see no need in selling my unit unless the price is right..

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Hi to all, just went UEM marina club house to see the new landed property in puteri harbor. smallest type land 24x75 , 2700 sqft build up. selling at 1.25 mil after rebate. about 4 km walk to the ferry terminal. site just located beside the new American school. any comment on this project?