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What happened to CREATIVE Technology ?

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Yip Hon

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CREATIVE Technology on the watch list of the Singapore Exchange? Even the hint of such a possibility would have once been unthinkable.

This isn't a struggling SME or S-chip. This is Creative, once a market darling, and a flag flyer for Singapore. This is the Creative of Sim Wong Hoo, the poster boy of local entrepreneurship, the company that invented the famous Sound Blasters which let computers talk and sing, dominated the global market in sound cards and, in 1992, became the first Singapore firm to list on Nasdaq in the US.

But on Wednesday, Creative notified shareholders that it had posted pre-tax losses for the past three consecutive years. It drew their attention to SGX rules under which companies are put on a watch list if they suffer pre-tax losses for three straight fiscal years and their average daily market capitalisation for the past 120 trading days dips below S$40 million. And such companies face a possible delisting if they cannot restore their financial health within 24 months of being on the list.

For its financial year ended June 2011, Creative suffered a pre-tax loss of US$51.9 million, on top of a pre-tax loss of US$46.7 million in FY2010. It posted a net loss of US$47.2 million in FY2011, widening from a net loss of US$38.8 million in the previous year.

Creative shares fell 9 cents to S$2.50 yesterday. With a market capitalisation of S$187.1 million, it remains above the watch list threshold of S$40 million.

Still, the company's constant struggle to stay in the black, quarter to quarter, makes for sad reading.

Yet, it has to be said that this comes as no surprise to those who have been tracking the company since its heyday. Creative's problems are not just the making of the fickle technology market or economic conditions.

Think back to 1994, when Creative launched its initial public offering (IPO) in Singapore. It was lauded and welcomed as the local boy coming home after having made it overseas. Singapore investors were asked to pay S$25.80 for each Creative share, sold in one board lot of 50 shares. And the offer was well oversubscribed.

Yet, even amid the euphoria then, warnings were sounded. Some industry observers cautioned that Creative's growth might be stymied by the trend of PC makers incorporating sound capabilities directly into the PC. In the long term, this would eat into Creative's margins. It will have to sell its components to other large companies, losing in the process the profit accrued from sales and marketing activities, they said.

The bottomline was that Creative was too dependent on one key product. The company was in danger of being a 'one trick pony' - a label which Mr Sim took issue with.

But that has turned out to be Creative's tragedy. Until today, it has failed to produce another hit product like the Sound Blaster. And it has failed to respond with a successfully executed diversification of its earnings base.

Along the way, it seemed too to have lost touch with market realities.

There was much fanfare in November 2004 when Mr Sim declared war in the MP3 market and zeroed his sights on US giant Apple Computer. Creative, said Mr Sim, wanted to seize 40 per cent of the global MP3 player market by this year - estimated at about 60 million units - by selling some 24 million digital music players.

It was a bold statement, and it captured the headlines. For a while, Creative basked in the limelight, reporting strong sales and good reviews of its Zen Micro MP3 players. Mr Sim even took swipes at Apple: when Apple launched its iPod Shuffle, he laughed it off as a 'huge disappointment'.

It took just six months for these words to come back to haunt Creative, when that costly ambition sent profits reeling. Not for the first or last time, the firm failed to deliver on its own hype.

For most of the recent past years, Creative has been stumbling between profitable and loss-making quarters, cost cutting and jobs cutbacks. It has been busy, without making any real breakthrough. The company has been working on rolling out mobile processors in its StemCell line, in the hope of attracting phone and tablet computer manufacturers. It has been working on the OEM (original equipment manufacturer) track after its own brand of products met with lukewarm consumer response. It raised interest in the market with its Zii mobile platform in 2008, but fell behind competitors such as Apple and Microsoft in the portable media player market. In 2008 it slashed 2,700 jobs - nearly half of its global workforce - when it sold off its Malaysian manufacturing subsidiary.

Yesterday, Creative announced several new products at a Berlin show, including the next generation of Sound Blaster gaming headsets, the Sound Blaster Recon3D audio platform and sound cards, and the Creative ZEN X-Fi3 music, photo and video player. Would these be the game changers that will reverse Creative's fortunes? Based on past record, one can't just bet for sure.

The more likely immediate outlook makes for grimmer reading. In its June FY2011 results, the firm warned investors that it would likely post another loss in the current quarter. Sales in FY2011 had fallen by 16.1 per cent to US$231 million, with declines in all the three major markets in which it operates - Asia-Pacific, the Americas and Europe.

The answer to Creative's woes probably goes beyond new products. It has, if it could be put that way, run out of inspiration. And the fix has to be more fundamental, more sweeping, and has to take place deep within the company itself. While its markets have rapidly evolved, Creative appeared to have been left behind. A new way of thinking, a new leadership perhaps, and a new culture, are probably what the company needs most.
 

ahleebabasingaporethief

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This is one company that is truly SINGAPORE; started by a true Singapore CITIZEN.

His and CT troubles started when he wrote the article called "N.U.T.S. - No U Turn Syndrome"; where he corrected portrayed ho life in Singapore was controlled by the SCUMS IN WHITE, which will lead to decay in Singapore's society and Singaporeans' ability to think. HE WAS CORRECT.

Subsequently, he did not receive any support.

He was quoted a few years back as saying that only in Singapore will you see a country wooing and helping FOREIGN COMPANIES to launch new products in Singapore; while LOCAL COMPANIES like CT have to go to China to launch their new range of products.

At one time this company was worth more than banks on the SGX; more than $50.00 per share.

This is one example why Singapore will never be another HK. because people that do not support the SCUMS will be "killed". Why do you think the PORLUMPARS which we saw supporting TT on stage have thei companies' shares doing so well?

Democratic or MODERN COMMUNISM?
 

shOUTloud

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Unfortunately for CT, their products really suck. I tried to support them by buying the Zen. When I try to buy auxiliary products such as desktop chargers etc, they dun have! Instead, they are producing such products for the iPod! That was the day I knew CT is doomed.
 

saratogas

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When a person can't find love... They loses their drives... At the end day, for what He earns all the $millions$ for... No one to take over!
 

LeMans2011

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Alibaba really the can. Even Creative's failure he can attribute to PAP.
The reason is simply because technology company will die a natural death when you stop innovating
 

johnny333

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Used to buy their soundcards but nowadays all motherboards got one built-in.

When you aready made your millions, some people get complacent. Just look at the PAP & how complacent they've become:rolleyes:

You also need to be tied in on the latest tech trends. I doubt that Woo can do that from Spore. He should have sold out years ago:rolleyes:
 

Ash007

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Its a sad end for a company that I used to support a lot. I remember buy the soundblaster 16bit, the Multimedia set, with cd-rom 2X? 4X? with its sets of games that comes along with it. I remember upgrading my soundcard once in a while and buys creative for a very long time. They were the recognised market leader then in sound. Probably as big and well-known with Microsoft as well. Unfortunately, they chose to come back to Singapore. I always wonder why they did that? Was it a bad decision? And when their stocks went to above $50 did they think they can just keep selling soundcards?
 

ssrrvv11

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Its a sad end for a company that I used to support a lot. I remember buy the soundblaster 16bit, the Multimedia set, with cd-rom 2X? 4X? with its sets of games that comes along with it. I remember upgrading my soundcard once in a while and buys creative for a very long time. They were the recognised market leader then in sound. Probably as big and well-known with Microsoft as well. Unfortunately, they chose to come back to Singapore. I always wonder why they did that? Was it a bad decision? And when their stocks went to above $50 did they think they can just keep selling soundcards?

i have friends that bought their stock at $30+. waiting and waiting for it to regain somewhere near it to minimise losses. but now it is getting nearer and nearer to 0 then to 30. :o
 

zeddy

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Used to buy their MP3 players back then.. But it would only last me for a year.. After a year, the MP3 would give me problems.. The last MP3l that I had bought was the Zen model.. Same story.. Spoilt within one year.. After that I totally give up on Creative products...
 

Char_Azn

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Creative main problem isn't their product is lousy, the problem lies with their Marketing department. Both Apple and Microsoft have are testament that a bad product with incredible marketing still = Huge Profits.
 

singveld

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when taiwan motherboard makers decide to add a cheap free soundcard on every motherboard.

blame taiwan
 

LonewolfAlfa

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actually, i used to like their products alot. their mp3 players have never given me any problem and sounds pretty good too.

its so much easier to use than itunes, and i like their user customizable equalizer which ipod doesnt have (its pre-set).

problem is its really really cheap looking. even china brand mp3 players look better.

have u seen their Z pads? sad looking...
 

singveld

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This is one company that is truly SINGAPORE; started by a true Singapore CITIZEN.

His and CT troubles started when he wrote the article called "N.U.T.S. - No U Turn Syndrome"; where he corrected portrayed ho life in Singapore was controlled by the SCUMS IN WHITE, which will lead to decay in Singapore's society and Singaporeans' ability to think. HE WAS CORRECT.

Subsequently, he did not receive any support.

He was quoted a few years back as saying that only in Singapore will you see a country wooing and helping FOREIGN COMPANIES to launch new products in Singapore; while LOCAL COMPANIES like CT have to go to China to launch their new range of products.

At one time this company was worth more than banks on the SGX; more than $50.00 per share.

This is one example why Singapore will never be another HK. because people that do not support the SCUMS will be "killed". Why do you think the PORLUMPARS which we saw supporting TT on stage have thei companies' shares doing so well?

if steve jobs is born in singapore, he will be a nobody, some mexican will be woo to come and replace him.
 

johnny333

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Used to buy their MP3 players back then.. But it would only last me for a year.. After a year, the MP3 would give me problems.. The last MP3l that I had bought was the Zen model.. Same story.. Spoilt within one year.. After that I totally give up on Creative products...

I bought the Apple iPod ver 1.0, it's now over 10+ years old & still running. The only extra$ I spent on it was to replace the battery with a larger capacity one
 

Unrepented

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My zen still ok after one year, recording quite powerful, long battery life. But the applications and interface is wanting.

Used to buy their MP3 players back then.. But it would only last me for a year.. After a year, the MP3 would give me problems.. The last MP3l that I had bought was the Zen model.. Same story.. Spoilt within one year.. After that I totally give up on Creative products...
 
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