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LHL: stop complaining about floods!

ruffles

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Building drains needs money... Expect more floods coming your way!

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Jun 28, 2010

PM: Don't expect flood-free Singapore
Preventing widespread floods more realistic, he says

By Jeremy Au Yong, Political Correspondent

GIVEN Singapore's tropical climate, it will be very costly to keep the country flood-free, said Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong yesterday.

Speaking for the first time on the two flash floods this month, he noted that any attempt to wipe out flooding here would require plenty of money and land.

'If you are going to do that, you will need huge tracts of land put aside for huge monsoon drains, which will be empty most of the time, (and) the infrastructure will cost a lot of money and it is not worth it,' he said.

A more realistic objective, he added, is to prevent widespread and prolonged flooding, and limit the risk to lives and damage to property.

Mr Lee made the point while assuring Singaporeans that the Government 'will continue to implement new drainage works, to improve the design of the drainage systems and deal with more intense storms'.

'But I don't think it is possible in Singapore to expect the place to be completely free of floods,' he said, as heavy downpours are very much part of the climate for an 'island in the tropics'.

PM Lee was speaking at the opening of new facilities at Lower Seletar Reservoir that include a Rower's Bay for competitive rowing and a 170m bridge that gives panoramic views of the reservoir.

They were built under a programme known as ABC Waters (Active, Beautiful, Clean), to freshen up Singapore's reservoirs and rivers and turn them into recreation spaces.

The Prime Minister, in his speech, also stressed the need to have contingency plans for unusually heavy rain to ensure swift response in pinpointing the problem areas, dealing with them and 'putting them right'.

He was keen to make sure the recent floods that caused chaos and disruption in Orchard Road, Thomson Road, Bukit Timah and Tanjong Katong would not happen again.

'We have to learn from these episodes, do post-mortems, find out what happened, and upgrade our infrastructure and systems,' he said.

The flood that submerged parts of Orchard Road two weeks ago was the worst to hit the area in more than two decades.

It caused traffic chaos and millions in losses as several shops on the shopping belt were inundated with waist-high water.

The flood was blamed on a clogged drain in the area and record rainfall - 60 per cent of what normally falls in the entire month of June poured down in one morning.

A similar storm landed a week later, and this time it was areas such as Thomson Road, Bukit Timah and Tanjong Katong that saw rising waters which, however, subsided in 30 minutes.

The two incidents had many Singaporeans chiding national water agency, PUB .

Yesterday, PM Lee defended the agency's work, noting that floods were relatively rare occurrences in Singapore.

'PUB has ongoing drainage improvement programmes which, over the years, have made floods much rarer, and much less severe so much so that when it does happen, we are sometimes taken by surprise and we scramble to see how we can deal with those remaining problems,' he said.

PUB had admitted to being caught off-guard by the Orchard Road floods and has since taken several measures.

They include installing new gratings on drains upstream of Orchard Road to trap debris such as leaves and plastic bags and having its contractors clean big drains monthly instead of quarterly.

But ultimately, it is not just the PUB that has to take flood prevention measures, said Mr Lee.

'We all have parts to play, to keep our public places and our waterways clean.

'We must prevent litter from choking up our drains. Otherwise, the litter will find its ways into the canals, into the drains, into the reservoirs and pollute our water supply,' he said.

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Watchman

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The more money they spend the more Flood will come .

The poor are still shouting out to you .

And yet you choose to cover your ears .
 

ruffles

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LHL's remarks is very disappointing. This coming from the govt that asked for so much from the people, but delivered so little.

How did we manage to keep the country relatively flood-free for the past 15 years then?

Are the two recent rainfalls any heavier than those we expeienced in the past 15 years?

There are trade-offs in building bigger drain systems, but the recent floodings shows that the govt has under-planned and under-invested.

The standard of governance has really dropped. Complacency and incompetency are slowly but surely creeping up in this lethargic and spent government.
 

Hans168

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Building drains needs money... Expect more floods coming your way!

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Jun 28, 2010

PM: Don't expect flood-free Singapore
Preventing widespread floods more realistic, he says

By Jeremy Au Yong, Political Correspondent

GIVEN Singapore's tropical climate, it will be very costly to keep the country flood-free, said Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong yesterday.

Speaking for the first time on the two flash floods this month, he noted that any attempt to wipe out flooding here would require plenty of money and land.

'If you are going to do that, you will need huge tracts of land put aside for huge monsoon drains, which will be empty most of the time, (and) the infrastructure will cost a lot of money and it is not worth it,' he said.

A more realistic objective, he added, is to prevent widespread and prolonged flooding, and limit the risk to lives and damage to property.

Mr Lee made the point while assuring Singaporeans that the Government 'will continue to implement new drainage works, to improve the design of the drainage systems and deal with more intense storms'.

'But I don't think it is possible in Singapore to expect the place to be completely free of floods,' he said, as heavy downpours are very much part of the climate for an 'island in the tropics'.

PM Lee was speaking at the opening of new facilities at Lower Seletar Reservoir that include a Rower's Bay for competitive rowing and a 170m bridge that gives panoramic views of the reservoir.

They were built under a programme known as ABC Waters (Active, Beautiful, Clean), to freshen up Singapore's reservoirs and rivers and turn them into recreation spaces.

The Prime Minister, in his speech, also stressed the need to have contingency plans for unusually heavy rain to ensure swift response in pinpointing the problem areas, dealing with them and 'putting them right'.

He was keen to make sure the recent floods that caused chaos and disruption in Orchard Road, Thomson Road, Bukit Timah and Tanjong Katong would not happen again.

'We have to learn from these episodes, do post-mortems, find out what happened, and upgrade our infrastructure and systems,' he said.

The flood that submerged parts of Orchard Road two weeks ago was the worst to hit the area in more than two decades.

It caused traffic chaos and millions in losses as several shops on the shopping belt were inundated with waist-high water.

The flood was blamed on a clogged drain in the area and record rainfall - 60 per cent of what normally falls in the entire month of June poured down in one morning.

A similar storm landed a week later, and this time it was areas such as Thomson Road, Bukit Timah and Tanjong Katong that saw rising waters which, however, subsided in 30 minutes.

The two incidents had many Singaporeans chiding national water agency, PUB .

Yesterday, PM Lee defended the agency's work, noting that floods were relatively rare occurrences in Singapore.

'PUB has ongoing drainage improvement programmes which, over the years, have made floods much rarer, and much less severe so much so that when it does happen, we are sometimes taken by surprise and we scramble to see how we can deal with those remaining problems,' he said.

PUB had admitted to being caught off-guard by the Orchard Road floods and has since taken several measures.

They include installing new gratings on drains upstream of Orchard Road to trap debris such as leaves and plastic bags and having its contractors clean big drains monthly instead of quarterly.

But ultimately, it is not just the PUB that has to take flood prevention measures, said Mr Lee.

'We all have parts to play, to keep our public places and our waterways clean.

'We must prevent litter from choking up our drains. Otherwise, the litter will find its ways into the canals, into the drains, into the reservoirs and pollute our water supply,' he said.

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After spending $2 billion bucks we still have flooding?
These $$$ can buy us many many emergency/use dual purpose canals with building and infra structures on top of them and yet serves the vital functions of flood deversions/mitigation. So LHL is bullshitting when he spouted that huge tracts of land need to be set aside for further anti flood measures! Why now talk like that? Isn't it same as saying " I dun know what to do but I'll continue taking my million dollar salaries and giving same to my in competent ministers!!!!!!!!!!! :oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:
 

zuoom

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hmm, why is the PM leading this again?

dun he have the water minister to be in charge of these matters?
 

Hans168

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LHL's remarks is very disappointing. This coming from the govt that asked for so much from the people, but delivered so little.

How did we manage to keep the country relatively flood-free for the past 15 years then?

Are the two recent rainfalls any heavier than those we expeienced in the past 15 years?

There are trade-offs in building bigger drain systems, but the recent floodings shows that the govt has under-planned and under-invested.

The standard of governance has really dropped. Complacency and incompetency are slowly but surely creeping up in this lethargic and spent government.






They wanted high pay, they got it.
Citizens wanted top performance of the ministers & sPerm Sacs but still not getting it at all. Gahmen is only good at browbeating the weak oppositions.
 

theDoors

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For a government who is learning on the job, shouldn't the PM asked for intern pay?

After all, it is Singaporeans who have to live the many mistakes of his government.

It has been 4 years, and he is still learning on the job. His ability to handle the job is questionable.
 

theDoors

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LHL's remarks is very disappointing. This coming from the govt that asked for so much from the people, but delivered so little.

How did we manage to keep the country relatively flood-free for the past 15 years then?

Are the two recent rainfalls any heavier than those we expeienced in the past 15 years?

There are trade-offs in building bigger drain systems, but the recent floodings shows that the govt has under-planned and under-invested.

The standard of governance has really dropped. Complacency and incompetency are slowly but surely creeping up in this lethargic and spent government.

This is the most complacent government in power in Singapore.
 

johnny333

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They are telling Sporeans to accept the situation but never mention the true cause of the floods. If the true cause of the problem is the Marina Barge then shouldn't the PAP be held responsible :confused:
 

Orion

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LHL's remarks is very disappointing. This coming from the govt that asked for so much from the people, but delivered so little.

How did we manage to keep the country relatively flood-free for the past 15 years then?

Are the two recent rainfalls any heavier than those we expeienced in the past 15 years?

There are trade-offs in building bigger drain systems, but the recent floodings shows that the govt has under-planned and under-invested.

The standard of governance has really dropped. Complacency and incompetency are slowly but surely creeping up in this lethargic and spent government.

Yes i agree with you. I remembered 15-20 years back...we always have rains that can rain for a full day, even 3 days during the monsoons. Then the rains get lesser and lesser.

The torrential rain in orchard that causes the flooding are typically rain and it didnt even rain for a full day.

And PAP gives such an excuse? What happens to the 'drain planning' now?
 

jw5

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Don't expect flood free Singapore?
Don't expect accountability free governance.
 

nickers9

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Building drains needs money... Expect more floods coming your way!

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Jun 28, 2010

PM: Don't expect flood-free Singapore
Preventing widespread floods more realistic, he says


He was keen to make sure the recent floods that caused chaos and disruption in Orchard Road, Thomson Road, Bukit Timah and Tanjong Katong would not happen again.


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Mr Lee Hsien Loong, I dont know whether will you have a chance to read this thread, but let me tell you something.

Some mistake you cannot even afford to make even once.

Just like Mas Selamat runaway case, can you afford to make that? If Mas Selamat managed to contact some terrorists in Indonesia and set up a bomb in Singapore and resulted in dead and injuries to Singaporeans, are you going to take that blame or responsibility or Mr Wang Kang Seng will take them???

Or are you just going to make more advertisment and shown in MRT to the locals and telling them to be vigilant???

Stupid think tanks and brain dead PAP ministers in our PAP government, do you think the terrorists are brainless and act suspicious when they are carrying a bomb in their bags?? Like the advertistments that he acts suspicious and wearing an hat and looking around and left their bags in the train??? You go and see the London bus bombing and you will know that the terrorists are very cool and calm and acted like any other common commuters but actually they are suicide bombers carrying a bomb in their bags.

In case Lee Hsien Loong you do not know, the suicide bombers denoted the bomb in their bags and die together with other commuters in the buses or trains.

And not like you stupid advertistments that the terrorist look suspicious and left his bags in the trains and walk away.
 

singveld

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LHL nuts. the drain maybe mostly empty, but when you need it, it is worth the money. I do not understand what he is trying to say, the money his wife lost can build a million drain.
 

HTOLAS

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The SAF has not been deployed for its intended use 99.9% of the time, but Dear Leader is not saying, 'get rid of it!'

LHL nuts. the drain maybe mostly empty, but when you need it, it is worth the money. I do not understand what he is trying to say, the money his wife lost can build a million drain.
 

manokie

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Connive

–verb (used without object), -nived, -niv·ing.

1.
to avoid noticing something that one is expected to oppose or condemn; give aid to wrongdoing by forbearing to act or speak (usually fol. by at ): The policeman connived at traffic violations.
2.
to cooperate secretly; conspire (often fol. by with ): They connived to take over the business.
3.
to be indulgent toward something others oppose or criticize (usually fol. by at ): to connive at childlike exaggerations.
 

singveld

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The SAF has not been deployed for its intended use 99.9% of the time, but Dear Leader is not saying, 'get rid of it!'

you are so wrong, it is there, so that opposition and citizen will not dare to come out and overthrow them from power. It is there for a purpose, you just dun know it.
 

HTOLAS

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Maybe, but Dear Leader would not be able to say that in public. Only Great Leader can blabber that out in his senility.

you are so wrong, it is there, so that opposition and citizen will not dare to come out and overthrow them from power. It is there for a purpose, you just dun know it.
 
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