Serious The Hypocrisy Of Singaporeans Against The Usage Of Cheap Labor

[singularity]

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesia-plans-to-stop-sending-new-live-in-maids-abroad

"...We want better protection for our workers. If they are always indoors, we don't know if they have worked overtime. They should be compensated for that."


http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/pilot-project-to-recruit-cambodian-maids-struggles-to-take-off

"...Last month, Cambodian newspaper The Phnom Penh Post reported that some maids working in Singapore have complained to the embassy here about poor work conditions."

I am aware that there is another thread on the Cambodian maids. I wanted to start a separate thread instead.

How ironic, on one hand Singapore's local populace decry the government's mass import of "cheap" foreign workers to displace them from their jobs, yet on the other they absolutely love their "cheap" maids and won't bat an eyelid when ordering them to dangerously reach out to clean the outside of their house windows.

In several advanced countries, domestic help of any form is expensive, think $10 - $20 PER HOUR, more if it involves professionals / certified technicians. That is why most people would rather DIY and this is ON TOP of their work schedules, taking care of children, remembering to pay bills etc. And no, grandparents do not like to be burdened with running after their grandchildren daily. As if they haven't had enough with one generation, "we'd like to have our well-deserved freedom, thank you very much".

 

[eatshitndie]

thanks. the good doctor in alberta and i have posted about this sinkie hypocrisy ad nauseam. so far no good retorts against our arguments indicate loss of words and admission of defeat.

 

[jw5]

In several advanced countries, domestic help of any form is expensive, think $10 - $20 PER HOUR, more if it involves professionals / certified technicians. That is why most people would rather DIY and this is ON TOP of their work schedules, taking care of children, remembering to pay bills etc. And no, grandparents do not like to be burdened with running after their grandchildren daily. As if they haven't had enough with one generation, "we'd like to have our well-deserved freedom, thank you very much".

Don't worry too much. Hypocrisy is very common among sinkies, especially bleeding heart zealots and deluded former scholars.

 

[eatshitndie]

maid in sg standing on ledge and cleaning window in upper floors with broom....

 

[eatshitndie]

maid in sg household has to wake up early on a rainy morning to wash the precious car of a sinkie arsehole. c'mon, why the need to wash car when it drizzles? what kind of fucked up logic is this?

 

[zhihau]

what kind of fucked up logic is this?

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This is near Siglap?

 

[singularity]

thanks. the good doctor in alberta and i have posted about this sinkie hypocrisy ad nauseam. so far no good retorts against our arguments indicate loss of words and admission of defeat.

I also observed that reported abuse is more prevalent in Singapore than elsewhere. So far, I only know of the infamous HK case:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27184521

Perhaps their news media is more concerned with other news like anti-china stuff such that these get swept aside?

Stay in domestic help is rare globally due to the high salary involved, it is literally full time employment. Who in their right mind would go out to work full time so that they could pay a full time salary to someone else? Unsurprisingly it's the obscenely rich that have them. How rich? The Beckhams have them, Hilton hotel heiress Paris Hilton have them, ditto the Saudi princes, LOL sorry LOS prince and ...areyouthinkingwhoIamthinking LOL. Of course, these rich fellas may have abused their maids too and it did not get reported, most probably they were paid to keep quiet.

No retort because of loss of words or Singaporeans just cannot understand the strange catch 22 that they are in? Funny that it takes outsiders to point this out for them.

 

[eatshitndie]

This is near Siglap?

yes, it is. in fact next to jalan tua kong where hookers and masseuses ply their trade in rented condos along upper east coast road. every morning syt's will wait by curbside along jalan tua kong to be picked up by taxis or private cars after their overnight trysts in the area. it's a hotbed of the skin trade in discreet upperty ways.

 

[eatshitndie]

I also observed that reported abuse is more prevalent in Singapore than elsewhere. So far, I only know of the infamous HK case:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27184521

Perhaps their news media is more concerned with other news like anti-china stuff such that these get swept aside?

Stay in domestic help is rare globally due to the high salary involved, it is literally full time employment. Who in their right mind would go out to work full time so that they could pay a full time salary to someone else? Unsurprisingly it's the obscenely rich that have them. How rich? The Beckhams have them, Hilton hotel heiress Paris Hilton have them, ditto the Saudi princes, LOL sorry LOS prince and ...areyouthinkingwhoIamthinking LOL. Of course, these rich fellas may have abused their maids too and it did not get reported, most probably they were paid to keep quiet.

No retort because of loss of words or Singaporeans just cannot understand the strange catch 22 that they are in? Funny that it takes outsiders to point this out for them.

how about this infamous sg case where sinkie couple starves their maid down to skin and bones?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/i-never-restricted-her/2352826.html

 

[ginfreely]

Plenty in mudland. I have seen my barbarian mudlander Chinese neighbours' maid working anytime from before 6 am to later than 12 midnight. I don't know how many hours she sleep a day. Btw I confirmed not hypocrite to talk on this issue as I never hire maid before nor does my family.

I also observed that reported abuse is more prevalent in Singapore than elsewhere. So far, I only know of the infamous HK case:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27184521

Perhaps their news media is more concerned with other news like anti-china stuff such that these get swept aside?

Stay in domestic help is rare globally due to the high salary involved, it is literally full time employment. Who in their right mind would go out to work full time so that they could pay a full time salary to someone else? Unsurprisingly it's the obscenely rich that have them. How rich? The Beckhams have them, Hilton hotel heiress Paris Hilton have them, ditto the Saudi princes, LOL sorry LOS prince and ...areyouthinkingwhoIamthinking LOL. Of course, these rich fellas may have abused their maids too and it did not get reported, most probably they were paid to keep quiet.

No retort because of loss of words or Singaporeans just cannot understand the strange catch 22 that they are in? Funny that it takes outsiders to point this out for them.

 

[eatshitndie]

Plenty in mudland. I have seen my barbarian mudlander Chinese neighbours' maid working anytime from before 6 am to later than 12 midnight. I don't know how many hours she sleep a day. Btw I confirmed not hypocrite to talk on this issue as I never hire maid before nor does my family.

you're one of the rarest angels here and we love you for it.

 

[singularity]

Plenty in mudland. I have seen my barbarian mudlander Chinese neighbours' maid working anytime from before 6 am to later than 12 midnight. I don't know how many hours she sleep a day. Btw I confirmed not hypocrite to talk on this issue as I never hire maid before nor does my family.

Is this observed in the Malay families, i.e. do maids working for Malay employers get abused too?

 

[singularity]

how about this infamous sg case where sinkie couple starves their maid down to skin and bones?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/i-never-restricted-her/2352826.html

That was but one of many.

 

[singularity]

On the contrary, is the government justified in its policy of cheap labor in place of the local population, or do the locals have right to employment just because? Not taking sides here.

I know this is a slippery slope as there are competing regional economic development all vying to be the next lowest bidder after Made In China, and the city state is dead stuck in an obsolete growth model conceived in the early 20th century and flogged well past its matching GDP per capita level to propel its economy forwards. While there have been attempts to move up the value chain, I have yet to even hear a whimper much less a global impact? But news of TPP being slit in the throat would have been ringing in my ears had I kept tuning in to the 150ish state media.

Now that scheduled party's more or less cancelled, what now? Is it the responsibility of the government to clue its local populace in on the next move, or vice versa? Note that a much freer market is required for the latter to occur, as opposed to the state directed market in the earlier, i.e. GLCs have to make way for open market competition, something that I am guessing would make those in favor of status quo sweat more profusely than the hottest tropical mid day sun?

 

[frenchbriefs]

i believe having cheap labour is the outcome and byproduct of our government's policies and political will,the government stands to benefit the most from the exploitation of cheap labour thats why they are willingly to overlook the exploitation and abuse.....for example many of our sectors rely on the heavy use of cheap labour,for example construction and domestic waste disposal workers,without the hundreds of thousands of bangla workers and shit skin neh workers earning $2 an hour,our economy which depends heavily on the construction sector would collapse.or in the case of the PRC bus drivers strike,the workers live in terrible conditions,work long hours every day for very little pay.or the dozens of cases of companies exploiting and abusing bangla workers every year.the government has no right to talking about maid abuse when the economy is strive full of abuse and exploitation.in fact i believe it falls within PAP's manifesto since human resource is singapore's only resource and it makes sense to obtain them as cheaply as possible.it is the government that sets the tone and direction of where the country goes.if the government is cold and heartless,dl u not expect the people to be cold and heartless.

time to migrate to australia.

 

[winnipegjets]

thanks. the good doctor in alberta and i have posted about this sinkie hypocrisy ad nauseam. so far no good retorts against our arguments indicate loss of words and admission of defeat.

Exploitation of labour is an intrinsic trait of right-wingers. What is happening in sinkapore is normal. You and the good doctor are right-wingers, surely you support totally this practice.

 

[eatshitndie]

Exploitation of labour is an intrinsic trait of right-wingers. What is happening in sinkapore is normal. You and the good doctor are right-wingers, surely you support totally this practice.

the opposite is true. slave owners in the south before the civil war were mostly democrats. it took republicans like lincoln to abolish slavery and fight slave owners and secessionists in the south to take back the union.

moreover, conservatives like me believe in doing-it-ourselves, growing and harvesting our own food, securing our own perimeters, arming the neighborhood from intruders and criminals, reducing over-reach by gov and law enforcement, protecting our independence and freedom.

 

[frenchbriefs]

On the contrary, is the government justified in its policy of cheap labor in place of the local population, or do the locals have right to employment just because? Not taking sides here.

I know this is a slippery slope as there are competing regional economic development all vying to be the next lowest bidder after Made In China, and the city state is dead stuck in an obsolete growth model conceived in the early 20th century and flogged well past its matching GDP per capita level to propel its economy forwards. While there have been attempts to move up the value chain, I have yet to even hear a whimper much less a global impact? But news of TPP being slit in the throat would have been ringing in my ears had I kept tuning in to the 150ish state media.

Now that scheduled party's more or less cancelled, what now? Is it the responsibility of the government to clue its local populace in on the next move, or vice versa? Note that a much freer market is required for the latter to occur, as opposed to the state directed market in the earlier, i.e. GLCs have to make way for open market competition, something that I am guessing would make those in favor of status quo sweat more profusely than the hottest tropical mid day sun?

This country is twisted,normally it is the role of the government and unions to negotiate fair terms and agreements with the corporations and to fight for the welfare of those who elect them into office.however in our case,LKY has usurped the roles of the government,the unions and the businesses,twisting and turning it into a farce that could only possibly benefit one group, themselves.its like playing chess against urself,how can u honestly win if u already know what u are going to do?They claim SG is a filthy rich country but at whose expense?The serfs and slaves,this is why u and I can never feel safe and secure despite all the so called wealth floating around and in our governments coffers.time to migrate to Australia.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Exploitation of labour is an intrinsic trait of right-wingers. What is happening in sinkapore is normal. You and the good doctor are right-wingers, surely you support totally this practice.

Not Trump,Trump is a pseudo right winger who's truly a liberal left wing bleeding heart who cares about the middle class and inequality and saving jobs.

 

[singularity]

i believe having cheap labour is the outcome and byproduct of our government's policies and political will,the government stands to benefit the most from the exploitation of cheap labour thats why they are willingly to overlook the exploitation and abuse.....for example many of our sectors rely on the heavy use of cheap labour,for example construction and domestic waste disposal workers,without the hundreds of thousands of bangla workers and shit skin neh workers earning $2 an hour,our economy which depends heavily on the construction sector would collapse.or in the case of the PRC bus drivers strike,the workers live in terrible conditions,work long hours every day for very little pay.or the dozens of cases of companies exploiting and abusing bangla workers every year.the government has no right to talking about maid abuse when the economy is strive full of abuse and exploitation.in fact i believe it falls within PAP's manifesto since human resource is singapore's only resource and it makes sense to obtain them as cheaply as possible.it is the government that sets the tone and direction of where the country goes.if the government is cold and heartless,dl u not expect the people to be cold and heartless.

time to migrate to australia.

Takes 2 to clap and 2 to tango, no? I must have heard this rhetoric a bazillion times, people blaming the government for being lazy by taking the easy way out and import foreign labor. Tit for tit ... I mean tat, government blames the people for being lazy by looking for high paying secure cushy jobs. As mentioned, not taking sides here, so I would expect an answer not found in the 10 year series of complaints /end sarcasm print recursion

Please do not unearth the dinosaur fossil called "human resource as the only resource we have" together with your beloved late leader's hands clinging to its tailbone. Do you know NATIVE south Koreans and Japanese working as road sweepers, construction workers, garbage collectors in their own respective countries are paid pretty high wages so much so that there are more applicants than vacancies? How hard is it to "develop resources" for such menial work?

Slippery slope indeed!