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Chitchat Princess Lee Wei Ling, This PAP govt is not like previous govt

gatehousethetinkertailor

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An hour later she has apologised after receiving "clarification" received from Shanmugam.

Lee Wei Ling kowtows and admits her mistake.

She qualified her "retraction" (not an apology in her mind perhaps):

"I just read CNA. The report seems to imply that I retract my entire first post of today. I only retract the part related to the comment on Mr. Tang Wee Sung. Mr. Shanmugam has informed me that even after the new law has been passed, it is not illegal to criticize a judgement or the AGC after the judgement has been delivered. Much of the proposed bill is ambiguous to a person not trained in legal matters. As per my current understanding, I stand by the rest of the statements I posted. The bill which will be passed in parliament tomorrow gives the government the right to comment whilst denying that to people. This is inconsistent with equality before the law and is an attempt to muzzle public opinion."

https://www.facebook.com/weiling.lee.980?fref=nf&pnref=story

On a sidenote, Bilahari will be swallowing his sarcasm which he was quick to post when CNA carried the headline "Lee Wei Ling apologises for attacking Bill on contempt of court":

"The so-called "independent" posted this. Why didn't it post Ms Lee's subsequent clarification and apology? Its below.
https://www.facebook.com/weiling.lee.980/posts/286581168364200
Read the clarification and share it to expose the "independent" for its slanted, seclective and far from independent "reporting".
Update: I have just been told that the so-called 'independent' has since put Ms Lee's clarification as an 'update' to its original article.
But what Ms Lee said was that she was mistaken and apologised. Its an entirely new situation. So shouldn't the 'independent' withdraw its original article and replace it with a new article pointing out that Ms Lee has herself said she was mistaken?"


Let's see whether he comments now.
 
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dr.wailing

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I asked my two maids who sleep in bedrooms with their windows open whether they smelt anything smoke and they did not.

Why does the Founding Daughter only have 2 maids to clean and maintain Old Fart's bungalow?

Did she know that her 2 maids are overworked?

With the billions of USD that she inherited from Old Fart, she could employ about 10 maids, most of whom can be Sinkies.

This current government is not like previous PAP governments.

Totally wrong. Was there a communication problem in Familee or perhaps the Founding Daughter didn't read her father's memoirs?

Old Fart had mentioned many times that Chief Natural Aristocrat is the right man to be the Prime Ministar because the latter would continue Lee Con You's authoritarian leegacy.

Ask any Sinkie, both high- and low-born, if the current gabrament is different from previous ones. Their unanimous answer is NO.
 

dr.wailing

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She qualified her "retraction" (not apology in her mind):

"I just read CNA. The report seems to imply that I retract my entire first post of today. I only retract the part related to the comment on Mr. Tang Wee Sung. Mr. Shanmugam has informed me that even after the new law has been passed, it is not illegal to criticize a judgement or the AGC after the judgement has been delivered. Much of the proposed bill is ambiguous to a person not trained in legal matters. As per my current understanding, I stand by the rest of the statements I posted. The bill which will be passed in parliament tomorrow gives the government the right to comment whilst denying that to people. This is inconsistent with equality before the law and is an attempt to muzzle public opinion."

https://www.facebook.com/weiling.lee.980?fref=nf&pnref=story

I'm just scandalized by her poor style of writing. Do President's Scholars of Sinkieland write like her?
 

shittypore

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Fuck all these bills passed in Parliament, cant we just be like North Korea under the Familee's rule? Cutrently, not much difference, so why make Shamu life difficult.
 

scroobal

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To be fair, the bill is open to questionable interpretation. In the wrong hands it can be used for any purpose that suits the govt of the day. It is also ambiguous and people thus become overly cautious out of self fear and any criticism even those with merit will be withheld. Its a bill that does more harm than good. She is a President's Scholar, a medical doctor and university don and close to the powers that be and she is struggling with the bill. It is in fact so contentious and confusing that many are not even comfortable commenting about it.

If any bill requires frequent clarification from a cabinet minister its a bill that had failed in its intent let alone in its construction. There are poorly drafted bills but in this case the intent is also confusing.

The coward has recanted. Well, i supposed she was reminded that she exists at the largesse of the PAPzis.
 

mojito

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To be fair, the bill is open to questionable interpretation. In the wrong hands it can be used for any purpose that suits the govt of the day. It is also ambiguous and people thus become overly cautious out of self fear and any criticism even those with merit will be withheld. Its a bill that does more harm than good. She is a President's Scholar, a medical doctor and university don and close to the powers that be and she is struggling with the bill. It is in fact so contentious and confusing that many are not even comfortable commenting about it.

If any bill requires frequent clarification from a cabinet minister its a bill that had failed in its intent let alone in its construction. There are poorly drafted bills but in this case the intent is also confusing.

The intent is to allow for a wide range of interpretations to suit the whims of the establishment.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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LWL:

Both CNA and ST have chosen to distort my message; I only apologized for what I wrote about Mr Shanmugam and Tang Wee Sung affair, where Mr Shanmugam, then Minister of Law, assisted me to criticize our then Attorney-Genera. That was issued after judgement has been passed, and would still be legal if the bill proposed by Mr Shanmugam is passed. At least that is what Mr. Shanmugam assures me.


I stand by the rest of the post, that the bill is an attempt to muzzle public discussion in any format, as long as the judgement has not been settled and that could include personal discussion between close friends even in private digital format. If that does not lead to limiting freedom of speech, I wonder how much more power the government would need to further limit freedom of speech and freedom of thought, when under the current laws, they don’t hesitate to muzzle the public media. How bad can it get if this law is passed. I think it will be much worse than now.
 

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... This current government is not like previous PAP governments. I urged all Singaporeans, and all MPs and NMPs to think through what has been proposed, and also read the many commentaries on the internet.
wat u wan dem 2 do? ...

ah loonz jingang r threatened wif bdsm wif a whip ...

daft sinkies r even handled much ezier ... juz tel dem their pigeon holes price wil plunge if not ...
 

gatehousethetinkertailor

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And a third post now:

"Yes, the current government is distinctly different from the government when LKY was PM and subsequently SM. One wise and observant journalist has written that the current government is less frank and upfront with Singaporeans. Let me remind everyone, the current government was voted in by Singaporeans. If it does not act for the welfare of Singaporeans, it can be voted out."


Her comments:

Angeline Lee Heard the story of frogs enjoying their spa? Except the spa is a pot of water on a stove.

Lee Wei Ling that is PM

Lee Wei Ling that is PM

Lee Wei Ling that is PM's story probably copied from another source. i state what i personally experience. i am not good at writing fantacy or novels. if i were our regular Singaporean, i would prefer some one who comes up with personal experience n insights then copy someone else's story or glory

Linda Chiang Am sure Dr Lee, being a prudent person, would know that this "wise and observant journalist" may have his/her own agenda?? Or is Dr Lee naive ?????

Lee Wei Ling no. dr Lee is not naivve. i know the wise and observant journalist knows LKY very well. he was involved with "Hard Truths" and can see the difference between the previous governments and the current government.

陈 秋燕 Tell us who that wise and observant journalist is. So curious to know.

Lee Wei Ling because I do not trust the current government to punish him as revenge for his wise and observant reply, i cannot tell you who he is.

陈 秋燕 I sincerely hope you aren't seeing any patient for the time being. That anger will interfere with your judgement.

Lee Wei Ling i am no longer angry. most of u know where i stand, n i trust most of u to make it known to your friends and eventually, most Singaporeans will know.

Stephen Wong Hey man, SG voted overwhelmingly in favour of current PAP policies, so what can you do about it?

Lee Wei Ling they depended on the goodwill from LKY which LHL inherited, the feel good factor of SG50, and a few concocted rumours of what the bookies thought. it was not their performance in running the government from the 2011 election that made u all vote PAP overwhelmingly


and a response buried in comments to her second post:

"Agnes Tan Suan Ping The law Minister assisted you to criticise the AG? Are you going nuts?


Lee Wei Ling Yes, the then minister of law helped edit my criticism of the judgement against Tang Wee Sung. It was an act of empathy, which AGC seemed to lack. We both felt that penalty on Mr Tang was too harsh, so we were expressing our genuine disquiet."
 
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scroobal

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You are 100% right as it was norm in the past to address the devious and the coming and it assumed that an elected govt will act honourably and with good intent plus the spirit of the law is followed- a British Legacy from the colonial days. Unfortunately this government has proved over and over again they cannot handle any form of criticism. Look at the response from Lawrence Wong on the $800k Bin centre today in Parliament - yes its within acceptable benchmark and even spoke on behalf of the AG. They will never admit it.

Yes ago, our Law Shamugam gave an interview about his family and stated that he lived in a rented home until the age of 16 giving the impression that he came from a relatively poor background. The truth is far from it but he chose to mislead and can we ever trust this guy.

The intent is to allow for a wide range of interpretations to suit the whims of the establishment.
 

scroobal

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I think we are now at a stage and with enough materials out in the public to show that she has chosen to become the gatekeeper. Better one than none no matter what her past is. The President we have is a discredited individual and the office will see much or all of its materials power of oversight withdrawn eventually. Even today Lawrence put words in the mouth of the Auditor General who is answerable to the President.
 

scroobal

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You cannot get any clearer than this, just 3 hours ago. Note : She even compared the current govt with GCT's. Its sad and pitiful indictment.



https://www.facebook.com/weiling.lee.980
Lee Wei Ling
3 hrs ·
Yes, the current government is distinctly different from the government when LKY was PM and subsequently SM. One wise and observant journalist has written that the current government is less frank and upfront with Singaporeans. Let me remind everyone, the current government was voted in by Singaporeans. If it does not act for the welfare of Singaporeans, it can be voted out
 

scroobal

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She is referring to Cheong.

And a third post now:

"Yes, the current government is distinctly different from the government when LKY was PM and subsequently SM. One wise and observant journalist has written that the current government is less frank and upfront with Singaporeans. Let me remind everyone, the current government was voted in by Singaporeans. If it does not act for the welfare of Singaporeans, it can be voted out."


Her comments:

Angeline Lee Heard the story of frogs enjoying their spa? Except the spa is a pot of water on a stove.


Lee Wei Ling Yes, the then minister of law helped edit my criticism of the judgement against Tang Wee Sung. It was an act of empathy, which AGC seemed to lack. We both felt that penalty on Mr Tang was too harsh, so we were expressing our genuine disquiet."
 
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