Benjamin Lim Thread

[mojito]

Re: Why does WP MP allow Shamu to deflect the issue?

Why don't you offer your daughter, sister, niece who are about that age to be "touched" by other kids about the same age?

Since when did the police pronounce the boy guilty????

There is going to be a Coroner's Inquiry, you fucking idiot. That's where the "details" will be and if not for the fact that the boy's family has requested for the CI to be held in private, all details will be publicly available. Clowns like you and your ilk with your "critical thinking" faculties and allegations of police intimidation, etc can offer yourselves as witnesses. Please go for it. It's an opportunity for you and your ilk to bring down the PAP government.

Call the parent and ask to bring kid down to station for questioning lah! So simple you dunno? Need to do activate ang chia to school to handcuff the boy? Simple thing why so hard for you to understand?

 

[eatshitndie]

Re: Why does WP MP allow Shamu to deflect the issue?

The session was damage control lah. In the US, the ministar would be hauled before a committee and grilled, scolded. Shamu would have pee in his pants, probably shit. In our fake parliament, Shamu talks big because the MPs don't dare to challenge him.

fortunately for sinkies, the pariahment doesn't ape the u.s. system. otherwise, nothing gets done.

 

[hsienloong]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

Why speculate the girl to be lying based on nothing? Lover's TIFF etc.

Are you saying that young boys and girls are not capable of lying?
Like I said No one knows for sure who is telling the truth and who is lying.
If a person lied and that lie is treated as fact because the person said so
than how do you verify the truth?

The lie detector was invented specifically for the purpose of exacting the truth.
But even under a lie detector, a person can be trained to outsmart the machine.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: Why does WP MP allow Shamu to deflect the issue?

fortunately for sinkies, the pariahment doesn't ape the u.s. system. otherwise, nothing gets done.

After decades in US, you still so sinkee-like.

In US, you can criticize the President, you won't get sue. The President can be checked by Congress, Congress can be checked by President and both can be checked by Supreme Court. See, no one office has all the power. That's called democracy.

 

[ginfreely]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

Are you saying that young boys and girls are not capable of lying?
Like I said No one knows for sure who is telling the truth and who is lying.
If a person lied and that lie is treated as fact because the person said so
than how do you verify the truth?

The lie detector was invented specifically for the purpose of exacting the truth.
But even under a lie detector, a person can be trained to outsmart the machine.

So you have no basis before you speculate the girl - but not the boy - to be lying? The police when view the CCTV cannot tell whether the girl know the boy or not (before the molest took place)? They cannot tell apart strangers from lovers in the lift to know it is lovers tiff? After viewing the cctv, if the girl has lied they never met but actually are lovers, the police would have seen through the lie. The police got so stupid to go one big round to still go to school to ask the school people to identify the boy?

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: Why does WP MP allow Shamu to deflect the issue?

human lives in the founding and early years of sg were dirt cheap except for angmos. for sg to evolve to a stage where the value of a loser human life is debated ad nauseum online only proves that the pap has done a marvelous job uplifting the 50-bucket truck syndrome of lowly sinkie coolies to world class shitizens giving them resources and comfort of their armchairs to waste their precious time day and night to seek justice, nope, to seek embarrassment of the very hand that lifted them out of poverty and cheap lives. it's truly a compliment to the pap by the unceasing ease of spewing online hate and adsurdity on their true benefactor.

It is thanks to the online fifth estate, that the PAP government has to defend itself in Parliament.
We can do better if true democracy prevails. The ministar would have been grilled and forced to resign if there was free press and an aggressive opposition.

Want to come back to be Opposition Leader?

 

[hsienloong]

Re: Why does WP MP allow Shamu to deflect the issue?

human lives in the founding and early years of sg were dirt cheap except for angmos. for sg to evolve to a stage where the value of a loser human life is debated ad nauseum online only proves that the pap has done a marvelous job uplifting the 50-bucket truck syndrome of lowly sinkie coolies to world class shitizens giving them resources and comfort of their armchairs to waste their precious time day and night to seek justice, nope, to seek embarrassment of the very hand that lifted them out of poverty and cheap lives. it's truly a compliment to the pap by the unceasing ease of spewing online hate and adsurdity on their true benefactor.

The fact that you took the effort and time to focus your energy on this thread contradicts your above statement.
Without the help and contributions of Singaporeans in the early and present day Singapore, PAP would still an opposition today.
PAP should be grateful to Singaporeans' hand that lifted them out of being an opposition party.
PAP should be grateful to Singaporeans' for their contribution and not the other way round.
Without Singaporeans there would be no PAP.

 

[hsienloong]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

So you have no basis before you speculate the girl - but not the boy - to be lying? The police when view the CCTV cannot tell whether the girl know the boy or not (before the molest took place)? They cannot tell apart strangers from lovers in the lift to know it is lovers tiff? After viewing the cctv, if the girl has lied they never met but actually are lovers, the police would have seen through the lie. The police got so stupid to go one big round to still go to school to ask the school people to identify the boy?

I would like to see the CCTV myself.
That fact that it took 2 years for the police to resolve a handphone camera issue
when it's easily available online speaks for itself.

 

[ginfreely]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

I would like to see the CCTV myself.
That fact that it took 2 years for the police to resolve a handphone camera issue
when it's easily available online speaks for itself.

Did you consider the girl's feelings when you make such a request? If the girl is your daughter, you want the CCTV showing the molest to be publicised?

 

[eatshitndie]

Re: Why does WP MP allow Shamu to deflect the issue?

The fact that you took the effort and time to focus your energy on this thread contradicts your above statement.

my energy and focus used on refuting any allegations, falsehood, half-truths, and hatred against the pap are well spent and never wasted.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

Did you consider the girl's feelings when you make such a request? If the girl is your daughter, you want the CCTV showing the molest to be publicised?

We have a dead 14-year old. He is pronounced guilty by the minister. Surely, he deserves a fair hearing.

 

[hsienloong]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

Did you consider the girl's feelings when you make such a request? If the girl is your daughter, you want the CCTV showing the molest to be publicised?

You have to put this question to yourself.
Do you want to find out the truth?
Like the saying goes : The truth always hurts.

 

[ginfreely]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

We have a dead 14-year old. He is pronounced guilty by the minister. Surely, he deserves a fair hearing.

You have to put this question to yourself.
Do you want to find out the truth?
Like the saying goes : The truth always hurts.

The coroner's inquiry cannot be trusted? Who don't want truth? Speculate without basis - or in other words - spew lies to harm the girl just because of one's biasness is not called seeking the truth.

 

[Leongsam]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

We have a dead 14-year old. He is pronounced guilty by the minister. Surely, he deserves a fair hearing.

The absence of a fair hearing is the boy's fault not the PAPs. He silenced himself.

 

[hsienloong]

Re: Why does WP MP allow Shamu to deflect the issue?

my energy and focus used on refuting any allegations, falsehood, half-truths, and hatred against the pap are well spent and never wasted.

I am sure the PAP would not be bothered or be embarrassed by something that is not true.
Why would they need to feel embarrassed if it is not true.

Were the PAP embarrassed by the true fact that their own state media World ranking is 154?
It should be a World Wide embarrassment already.
Singapore under the present PAP has deteriorated a lot.
Shouldn't you be spending more time, effort and energy at the national FeedBack forum with your ideas and suggestions
to help your PAP improve?

 

[xebay11]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

Don't know why so much arguments and posts for a dead boy who is basically a loser and molester. How come nobody imvestigate how he was treated at home when he came back from the police station. His parents could have mishandled the boy when he came back, causing him to jump.

I totally back how the police handled the case there was no use of excessive force and SOP was followed.

 

[hsienloong]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

The absence of a fair hearing is the boy's fault not the PAPs. He silenced himself.

With that statement, it's surmise to say that the puzzle would never be solved.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

Don't know why so much arguments and posts for a dead boy who is basically a loser and molester. How come nobody imvestigate how he was treated at home when he came back from the police station. His parents could have mishandled the boy when he came back, causing him to jump.

I totally back how the police handled the case there was no use of excessive force and SOP was followed.

No wonder sinkapore is in deep shit, thanks to people like you who can't think.

How do you know Ben is a loser?

The real loser is Shamu. If not for the fake parliament, he would have been booted out long ago. No only is he a liar, he is also a traitor. He is the one that negotiated the free trade with India that allows unlimited Ah Nehs to work here.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

The absence of a fair hearing is the boy's fault not the PAPs. He silenced himself.

We can send Shamu to try Ben in the distant land.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: There are still many unanswered questions on Benjamin Lim case

The coroner's inquiry cannot be trusted? Who don't want truth? Speculate without basis - or in other words - spew lies to harm the girl just because of one's biasness is not called seeking the truth.

That the ministar has come out to defend the SPF is enough to tell sinkees that the COI will be a sham. It will validate the ministar and vindicate SPF. That's the foregone conclusion.