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Shane Todd's murder cover-up

ray_of_hope

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People around the world are shocked that the parents could have so dishonoured their dead son by getting a trained vet, instead of a properly certified forensic pathologist, to do an autopsy report.
 

watchman8

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People around the world are shocked that the parents could have so dishonoured their dead son by getting a trained vet, instead of a properly certified forensic pathologist, to do an autopsy report.
Haha. Some kuku birds still think there is conspiracy. Yeah, maybe singapore govt paid off Todd's parents to employ a vet to be expert witness, so that they can totally discredit their own conspiracy theory :rolleyes:

Todd's parents are idiotic, and so many others are showing that they are in the same IQ league by continuing to believe in their conspiracy theory.
 

LeMans2011

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Billions wasted by Philip yeo in bioscience research. Any good shit came out from there? Your membership in sammyboy started very recently. Are you one of PR team from Todd's parents? Don't treat sinkies as idiots. Just because we don't like pap, doesn't mean we will blindly condemn anything here.

Can you even tell us what is so great about gallium nitride and what edge does IME has over other similar research bodies in rest of world? IME is absolutely useless place funded by A star as part of Philip yeo futile and misguided effort to build up research capability here.

Spot on. Talk about being evil, PAP is a kindergarten kid compared to evil empire USA. There are a lot of idiots here who behave like the Pakatan Rakyat supporters who asked USA to "bomb Malaysia" to save them from Barisan Nasional.
 

winnipegjets

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People around the world are shocked that the parents could have so dishonoured their dead son by getting a trained vet, instead of a properly certified forensic pathologist, to do an autopsy report.

How much is the PAP paying you for this crap posting?
 

winnipegjets

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If you tailor the data to your desired conclusion, everyone who reads the report will come to the same conclusion. The two so-called independent pathologists were not independent as they were fed with the sinkapore government report, not based on independent observations.

The pathologist hired by the Todds is indeed truly independent as he formulated his conclusion based on observations.

US experts reject murder theory in scientist's death

AFP
Thursday, May 23, 2013

SINGAPORE - Two US pathologists on Wednesday supported Singapore police findings that an American scientist found hanged last year in the city-state committed suicide and was not murdered as his family claims.

Medical examiners David Fowler of Maryland and Valerie Rao of Florida testified as independent experts a day after the family of the late researcher Shane Todd walked out of a coroner's inquest in Singapore.

Fowler rejected a theory put forward by the family's star witness, Missouri deputy medical examiner Edward Adelstein, who said Todd may have been killed by assassins working for two Asian high-tech firms involved in a secret project.

Fowler, chief medical examiner of Maryland, said marks on Todd's hands cited by Adelstein on Tuesday as proof of a fight with killers in his apartment were "the most classical example of post-mortem lividities" in hanging cases.

There was also nothing suspicious about a bruise on Todd's forehead, he said, declaring that "the cause of death was asphyxia due to hanging".

Rao, chief medical examiner of two districts in Jacksonville, also cited "asphyxia due to hanging" as the cause of death and agreed that there were no injury marks indicating a struggle.

Asked by a Singapore state counsel to give her opinion on the means of death, Rao replied: "Suicide".

Fowler and Rao based their findings on the Singapore autopsy report, while Adelstein relied on funeral pictures of the body and second-hand information.

Singapore police investigators earlier testified that the 31-year-old Todd, who had a history of depression, hanged himself in his apartment and left suicide notes to his family and friends on his laptop computer.

Foreign Minister K. Shanmugam, who is also the law minister, said the Todd family's decision to walk out was "regrettable".

"The police officers went on the stand, they were questioned, they gave their evidence, they gave their testimony. Their processes were subject to total scrutiny," he said.
 

Semaj2357

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after going anal & having their assumptions debunked by the FBI on the tape and their med examiner (vet-trained and a deputy at that) the parents can now go home, safe in the belief that they've done their best to assuage their son's death but to many - with tails nicely tucked between the folds of their ass crack and twat.
 

escher

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what to do. they always want to win.

but they lost their own souls.

and now Singapore will be discredited because of some people who always wanted to win.

i hope the Todd family will continue to push for a congressional hearing back in US.

then Hakka Lee Regime will go finally habis soon!

let us keep our fingers crossed!
yes

YES

YES
 

whoami

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There are a lot of idiots here who behave like the Pakatan Rakyat supporters who asked USA to "bomb Malaysia" to save them from Barisan Nasional.

Even my nephew shook his head upon reading such shallow news.

Now tell me whos the traitor?
 

escher

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Spot on. Talk about being evil, PAP is a kindergarten kid compared to evil empire USA. There are a lot of idiots here who behave like the Pakatan Rakyat supporters who asked USA to "bomb Malaysia" to save them from Barisan Nasional.

ha ha ha ha
HE HE HEEE HEE HEE

Nothing beat smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY genius for evil and rotteness.
LKY should have been aborted before birth by his mother.
Very soon, LKY will be eating joss sticks and candle wax.

And we and the whole world will find out the extent of corruption LKY brought about in Singapore and how much he stole from us.
 
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winnipegjets

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after going anal & having their assumptions debunked by the FBI on the tape and their med examiner (vet-trained and a deputy at that) the parents can now go home, safe in the belief that they've done their best to assuage their son's death but to many - with tails nicely tucked between the folds of their ass crack and twat.

Who is the more independent pathologist based on this information - "Fowler and Rao based their findings on the Singapore autopsy report, while Adelstein relied on funeral pictures of the body and second-hand information."

Second, if Adelstein is good enough for the state of Missouri which is larger than sinkapore in size and in population and has a more robust judicial system where accused enjoying abundant rights, then his report has more credibility than any report produced in sinkapore.
 

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Again with due respects to the deceased, I stand by my opinion that the family is using this for publicity purposes. Look at their big grin and attempts at maximum camera time.

Objective? I can only think that they are probably looking at movie rights / book rights down the road.. or probably some form of multi-million-dollar suit...

Unbecoming behavior of a Christian pastor
 

winnipegjets

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Again with due respects to the deceased, I stand by my opinion that the family is using this for publicity purposes. Look at their big grin and attempts at maximum camera time.

Objective? I can only think that they are probably looking at movie rights / book rights down the road.. or probably some form of multi-million-dollar suit...

Gosh, I wish you would use this cynicism on the PAP instead. Would you donate $1 million to a charity of their choosing if you are wrong?
 

Semaj2357

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Who is the more independent pathologist based on this information - "Fowler and Rao based their findings on the Singapore autopsy report, while Adelstein relied on funeral pictures of the body and second-hand information."

Second, if Adelstein is good enough for the state of Missouri which is larger than sinkapore in size and in population and has a more robust judicial system where accused enjoying abundant rights, then his report has more credibility than any report produced in sinkapore.

discolouration and swelling sets in after rigor mortis, so the pics cannot tell zilch. Second hand info is, at best, info based on hearsay and opinions from others. All three med examiners had to rely on these and their experience and appointments then come into the equation. Their witness is only a deputy and more familair with claws, hooves and fur. How then is his report more credible that the other 2, granted that their judicial system is more robust and accused having abundant rights? Missouri and the little red dot has their fair share of logic-thinkers, regardless of size!
 

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Who is the more independent pathologist based on this information - "Fowler and Rao based their findings on the Singapore autopsy report, while Adelstein relied on funeral pictures of the body and second-hand information."

Second, if Adelstein is good enough for the state of Missouri which is larger than sinkapore in size and in population and has a more robust judicial system where accused enjoying abundant rights, then his report has more credibility than any report produced in sinkapore.
Then why did Adelstein recanted his earlier statement? Also if he is a ethical doctor, shouldn't he declined any comment based on insufficient data and inability to examine the corpse in person? A trained professional should not go about wild conjectures without any evidence.

What does this tell you about Adelstein character?


Also note that Todd's parents twisted the story on how they gotten hold of the hard disk. This is a major lie designed solely to discredit the singapore investigators.

What does this tell you about the ulterior motives of Todd's parents?
 

winnipegjets

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Also if he is a ethical doctor, shouldn't he declined any comment based on insufficient data and inability to examine the corpse in person? A trained professional should not go about wild conjectures without any evidence.

He offered his best judgment based on the evidence that was presented to him. He offered an INDEPENDENT opinion, unlike the two pathologists hired by the PAP who merely regurgitated the report prepared by the sinkapore source.




What does this tell you about Adelstein character?

He has intestinal fortitude and that he could not be bought with dollars.
 

watchman8

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He offered his best judgment based on the evidence that was presented to him. He offered an INDEPENDENT opinion, unlike the two pathologists hired by the PAP who merely regurgitated the report prepared by the sinkapore source.

He has intestinal fortitude and that he could not be bought with dollars.
I think you are a PAP mole seeking to give online users a bad name. I don't know who you are and have never met you. I based my best judgment on a couple of things you have written on this thread. This is an independent opinion.
 
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Whether Todds committed suicide or was murdered...........the suicide verdict will be upheld.
Those who knows how vile the white scums are will know......those gong cheebyes who cannot see the truth so be it.
So why anyone wants to bother.
 

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When known toads and MIWs running dogs like watchman,semaj and steffychun etc shout and scream suicide suicdie, we all know
for sure Todd was murdered and MIWs for reasons best known for themselves orchestraed a fucking big bigh BIG coverup.
 
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