PM Lee explain why by election is not necessary

[alantan27]

"There is a reason for it, because you are electing a team to represent you when you are going to a general election and not just electing an individual in that constituency, but really you are electing a member of a government and the person stands wearing a logo representing a political party.

"Really, the right way to choose a government is in a general election when the choice is put and that choice is really for the term of the government, unless there is a complete change in Parliament. Otherwise, individual MPs, whether they resign or something happens to them, ought not to be able to upset the overall political situation, and that's the reason why it is designed like this.

Any comment?

 

[alantan27]

"There is a reason for it, because you are electing a team to represent you when you are going to a general election and not just electing an individual in that constituency, but really you are electing a member of a government and the person stands wearing a logo representing a political party.

"Really, the right way to choose a government is in a general election when the choice is put and that choice is really for the term of the government, unless there is a complete change in Parliament. Otherwise, individual MPs, whether they resign or something happens to them, ought not to be able to upset the overall political situation, and that's the reason why it is designed like this.

Any comment?

I think in future election. if pap win on nomination day.I think the rest of the wards dont need to have any election. Because the team already elected

 

[po2wq]

"There is a reason for it, because you are electing a team to represent you when you are going to a general election and not just electing an individual in that constituency, but really you are electing a member of a government and the person stands wearing a logo representing a political party ...

words of a conman n a retard! ...

lidat, erections dun nid 2 haf individual constituencies oredi ... juz vote party can liao ... winning party picks mps from own party ...

 

[neddy]

May as well put a robot as Candidate for election.
Singkies can't do anything with the Lee family.

 

[ray_of_hope]

It is a piece of great wisdom!

 

[Troll]

"There is a reason for it, because you are electing a team to represent you when you are going to a general election and not just electing an individual in that constituency, but really you are electing a member of a government and the person stands wearing a logo representing a political party.

"Really, the right way to choose a government is in a general election when the choice is put and that choice is really for the term of the government, unless there is a complete change in Parliament. Otherwise, individual MPs, whether they resign or something happens to them, ought not to be able to upset the overall political situation, and that's the reason why it is designed like this.

Any comment?

This shouldn't be applicable to SMC IMHO. In an SMC the constituents elect a particular MP from a certain party, that doesn't mean they will be happy with having a part time MP from a neighbouring GRC to take over should that elected MP resigns from office. Because the constituents have never voted for the GRC team, nor anyone in the GRC team.

 

[wwabbit]

words of a conman n a retard! ...

lidat, erections dun nid 2 haf individual constituencies oredi ... juz vote party can liao ... winning party picks mps from own party ...

Actually, that's the way things work in the many countries that use proportionate representation system.

 

[cunnilaubu]

Actually, that's the way things work in the many countries that use proportionate representation system.

If it was proportionate representation, PAPpies would have been denied the 2/3 majority and most of the major oppo will be represented in parliament.

 

[ray_of_hope]

If it was proportionate representation, PAPpies would have been denied the 2/3 majority and most of the major oppo will be represented in parliament.

Don't kid yourself. In a proportional representation system there would have been multi-cornered fights for virtually all the constituencies. It's called the party list. In such a situation only 1 oppo party - the one with greatest appeal - would have got the minimum percentage of votes to be in Parliament. The other oppo parties would have had fractional percentages, i.e., in the single digits. In most places where proportional representation is practicised the bar for entry into Parliament is set at around 10% (i.e., a minimum 10% vote threshold).

 

[batman1]

Is Pinky on drugs ,still on hallucination ? cannot decide by-election date ?

 

[GoldenDragon]

Is Pinky on drugs ,still on hallucination ? cannot decide by-election date ?

He is only capable of deciding on more crucial matters pertaining to national security and national interest. Too busy to decide on BE.

 

[po2wq]

He is only capable of deciding on more crucial matters pertaining to national security and national interest ...

u sure? ... dat burgerz oni capable of deciding how much gdp 2 achief n how much salary n bonus 2 haf 4 himself n his jin-gang ...

 

[The_Hypocrite]

My take on this matter is this.

1) The more PM delay the BE the worse it is for PAP in general

2) Mickey was a popular MP there,,the residents like him,,,so I was also told alot of new shitizens live there too,,that means they are highly PAPPIE supporters,,so opposition contest there start on the back foot.

3) The longer the delay, the more time it gives Oppo to work the ground...and it will show TSL as an asshole. Can any frens here who live in TSL constituency give us an indication on how popular TSL is? I dont think he is popular as I have frens who went to his MPS and was surprise by what a dick head he his..

4) I hope the WP bring this up in parliament to argue for a change in the constitution so that a BE is required if any MP vacate his seat,,within 6 months unless the GE is around the corner,,this is a fundamental law in singapore,,PAP has to play by the rules.,eventhough it will get nowhere,,it will put PAP and Pinky in the back foot,,make him look bad

5) There is a higher chance of PAP winning the BE,,it seems that there will be multi party fights,,but WP has to contest and if they contest and win 40%, PAP win 50% and 10% go to the 3rd rate oppo,,than it shows that WP has credibility and is popular, if PAP win by less than 50% but won due to the past the post system,,than it shows PAP has no credibility at all

6) PAP has no popular members now which are loyal to Pinky. MPs are chosen due to their loyalty and not their competence. If PAP really wants to win this BE hands down,,they have to select someone popular but not a Pinky Yes man/women.

These Popular PAP ones are (my personal opinion hor)
a) Tan Soo Khoon
b) Tan Cheng Bock
c) Wong Kai Yuen?
d) any others?

If a and b contest,,I will be torn in voting for them or Oppo,,

If PAP puts an unknow General or Civil Serpent, it will be harder for PAP to win,,and will be most likely a win based on Party preference,,

just my rants,,,

 

[batman1]

With all the promises of sky-high remuneration,status,career advancement....cannot find any balls-licker ?

 

[myfoot123]

Ya, he is not in the position to tell the judge what law is. If that is the case, might as well put a dog there wearing PAP logo and considered representation of the ruling party. No question ask.

 

[Picardo]

In the same vein, a lawyer should never be allowed to dictate with authority what engineers only know best.

And engineers should never have free reign in matters of economics or investment analysis..

Ya, he is not in the position to tell the judge what law is. If that is the case, might as well put a dog there wearing PAP logo and considered representation of the ruling party. No question ask.

All in one family? The mind boggles.

 

[ray_of_hope]

Some people are chosen not necessarily for their being intellectually heavyweight, but for other attributes or because they could further a larger objective. Surely, when Tin Pei Ling, at age 27, was chosen for last year's GE I immediately felt it was to set a precedent so that someone's son could possibly be fielded at the subsequent GE. Also, is Desmond Choo intellectual? Not in my books. The PM can field any number of candidates in PE. The person need not be top-notch. Voters vote party ticket, NOT person.

My take on this matter is this.

1) The more PM delay the BE the worse it is for PAP in general

2) Mickey was a popular MP there,,the residents like him,,,so I was also told alot of new shitizens live there too,,that means they are highly PAPPIE supporters,,so opposition contest there start on the back foot.

3) The longer the delay, the more time it gives Oppo to work the ground...and it will show TSL as an asshole. Can any frens here who live in TSL constituency give us an indication on how popular TSL is? I dont think he is popular as I have frens who went to his MPS and was surprise by what a dick head he his..

4) I hope the WP bring this up in parliament to argue for a change in the constitution so that a BE is required if any MP vacate his seat,,within 6 months unless the GE is around the corner,,this is a fundamental law in singapore,,PAP has to play by the rules.,eventhough it will get nowhere,,it will put PAP and Pinky in the back foot,,make him look bad

5) There is a higher chance of PAP winning the BE,,it seems that there will be multi party fights,,but WP has to contest and if they contest and win 40%, PAP win 50% and 10% go to the 3rd rate oppo,,than it shows that WP has credibility and is popular, if PAP win by less than 50% but won due to the past the post system,,than it shows PAP has no credibility at all

6) PAP has no popular members now which are loyal to Pinky. MPs are chosen due to their loyalty and not their competence. If PAP really wants to win this BE hands down,,they have to select someone popular but not a Pinky Yes man/women.

These Popular PAP ones are (my personal opinion hor)
a) Tan Soo Khoon
b) Tan Cheng Bock
c) Wong Kai Yuen?
d) any others?

If a and b contest,,I will be torn in voting for them or Oppo,,

If PAP puts an unknow General or Civil Serpent, it will be harder for PAP to win,,and will be most likely a win based on Party preference,,

just my rants,,,

 

[steffychun]

So we waste our father's and grand father's tax money to send him to Cambridge and Harvard to produce this crap?

 

[Picardo]

Talking and speech-making is easy, as anyone can use DUBIOUS and contentious reasons to support any argument.

But they will have to hold water to be acceptable, not forcibly and mindlessly bull-dozed through.

So we waste our father's and grand father's tax money to send him to Cambridge and Harvard to produce this crap?

 

[steffychun]

Talking and speech-making is easy, as anyone can use DUBIOUS and contentious reasons to support any argument.

But they will have to hold water to be acceptable, not forcibly and mindlessly bull-dozed through.

Ahem he not even giving a reason

This sort of logic will fail a PSLE, A Level, Uni paper