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My Messy Life, a four-part series on troubled families

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My Messy Life
HOMELESS...
Family with 8 kids moved 12 times in 2 years, even staying at beaches and parks
HOPELESS?
Broke parents won't find jobs, spending welfare money on cigarettes
They're penniless but won't work, living on any help they can get. We start the first of a four-part series on troubled families
By Genevieve Jiang

December 09, 2008

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WE MUST BE TOGETHER: Madam Juliana Saib (squatting with baby), her husband Mohamad Hider Abdul Kabis, 33 (second from right, standing), and their eight children have been moving from place to place for the past two years.

FOR the past two years, they have been living like nomads - in Singapore.

The family of 10 has lived with friends, relatives, in parks and on beaches. They wash in public toilets and live off charity.

They ended up in a shelter for homeless families in June this year. But barely three months later, they were back on the streets after breaking the shelter's rules.

Madam Juliana Saib, 32, her husband, Mr Mohamad Hider Abdul Kabis, 33, and their eight children aged between 16 and 1, live their lives one day at a time.

When they outlast their welcome, the hunt for their next place to stay begins yet again.

Said Madam Juliana: 'It's not been easy moving from place to place, but so long as the family is together, we'll survive.'

The couple have five sons, aged 16, 15, 12, 11, and 3, and three daughters, aged 9, 6 and 1.

Why have so many children when they have no home? Madam Juliana said it was 'God's will' and the children were 'a joy'.

She was so adamant that the family stay together that she rejected an offer earlier this year to house the children and her at a shelter, without her husband.

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--TNP PICTURES: KELVIN CHNG

The couple also rejected several jobs recommended by social workers from various agencies, ranging from cleaning to delivery, citing reasons such as 'workplace too far', 'not suitable' or 'not convenient', said MrRavi Philemon, manager of the New Hope Shelter for Displaced Families.

The family's problems started when they decided to upgrade from a three-room flat in Bedok to a four-room flat in Serangoon in late 2005.

Mr Mohamad Hider was then taking home $1,600 as a warehouse assistant. When they bought their new flat in early 2006, they took a $32,000 bank loan.

Around the same time, Mr Mohamad Hider quit his job as he wasn't happy at his workplace.

He soon found another job, as a delivery man, but that brought in only half his previous salary - about $800 a month. Madam Juliana was not working then.

By August 2006, the couple found they could no longer pay their loan instalments.

They went to their Member of Parliament for help to get them another bank loan to downgrade to a three-room flat, but were advised not to do so.

Instead, they were asked to consider renting a flat or living with relatives until their income improved.

Their flat was repossessed by HDB, and they were then put on a waiting list for a rental flat.

The family moved in with Mr Mohamad Hider's 42-year-old brother at his three-room flat in Khatib.

Madam Juliana was then seven months pregnant with their eighth child, and that was where she recovered after giving birth in January last year, and where the family stayed until June. But staying under the same roof soon resulted in misunderstandings and arguments, which forced them to move.

It marked the start of the family's nomadic lifestyle. (See time chart on page 8.)

Mr Mohamad Hider had quit his delivery job in the middle of last year to 'help take care of the children'.

But in July, he started working as a cleaner, earning $700 a month.

Madam Juliana had, since Febuary last year, been working part-time as a cashier, earning about $850 a month.

In October, the family moved to East Coast Park, where they lived for a few days in a tent after outstaying their welcome at a friend's place.

It was then that social workers from the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports discovered them and referred them to the Singapore Children's Society's Yishun Family Service Centre (FSC).

They then moved again, to another relative's place, where they stayed for six months.

But a misunderstanding with the relative landed them back on the streets in May this year.

This time, they spent a night at a void deck in Yishun. The next day, they moved to Sembawang park.

Said Mr Mohamad Hider: 'The night we were thrown out, my 3-year-old boy was running a fever, and sleeping in the open was cold and uncomfortable.

'We had to give him some panadol. Luckily his fever went down.'

Mr Mohamad Hider again quit his job to 'take care of his family'.

In January this year, Madam Juliana, too, had left her cashier's job for the same reason.

The family spent three weeks at Sembawang park, living in a tent, and surviving on instant noodles boiled over a portable gas stove.

A social worker from Yishun FSC referred Madam Juliana to a shelter, where she could stay with her children. But she refused to go. She said: 'The shelter was only for women, so my husband would have to find his own way. I refused to accept because I didn't want the family to be separated.'

The family was told it was illegal to camp at the park indefinitely. So they moved again, to Changi beach, where they stayed for two weeks in June this year.

A social worker referred them to the New Hope Shelter on 20 Jun. They were housed in a three-room flat in Marsiling with two other homeless families.

But during their time there, they flouted the rules - which include not allowing visitors at the unit after 10pm.

When they moved to another unit in July, they continued to visit the tenants at their former unit without permission, though that too was against the rules.

They were warned by the home's staff seven times, and had to leave the shelter on 15 Sep.

They then moved in with their second son's classmate and his grandmother in Hougang, but were asked to leave late last month.

It is understood the couple are now staying temporarily at Changi beach with their youngest daughter, while the other children live with various relatives.

Both husband and wife are jobless and have no savings.

The family has, since earlier this year, been surviving on welfare.

They get $180 every month for four months from Muis, $60 worth of food vouchers a month for four months from a mosque, $590 a month for three months from the Northwest Community Development Council, $225 every month from the Straits Times Pocket Money Fund, and occasional food rations from the Yishun FSC and other welfare groups.

Despite not having a home, Madam Juliana made sure the family had new clothes to wear during Hari Raya in October.

She also spends on cigarettes.

The couple's 9-year-old daughter is deaf.

Their eldest, An-nafy Yusman, 16, stopped going to school and went to work at a fast food joint in May, earning $600 a month. But he returned to school in October, and is now staying with a friend.

Said An-nafy: 'Life hasn't been so bad. It's not like we've had no food to eat, or no new clothes to wear.

'I don't feel there's been much change to my lifestyle at all.'
 

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My Messy Life
Homeless but far from...

HELPLESS
They're offered money, jobs and food, so why are some desperate families still picky?
By Genevieve Jiang

December 09, 2008

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NO MONEY: Madam Juliana Saib and her husband, who have moved 12 times in two years, are now jobless. --TNP PICTURE: KELVIN CHNG

THEY get financial help, food rations, and even temporary shelter from community help groups.

Social workers help them look for jobs, and help them with subsidised childcare and school fees, so they can work while their children remain in school.

But it can be an uphill task for community workers to get families like Madam Juliana Saib's back on their feet.

Said Mr Ravi Philemon, manager of the New Hope Shelter for Displaced Families: 'Sometimes, we help these families look for work but they refuse to take on the jobs. They are picky.

'They come up with excuses like the workplace is too far, or that the work is not suitable for them. But when you're down and out, with young kids to feed, surely any job that comes your way is a bonus.'

Are our social safety nets getting too comfortable for some, such that they breed reliance and complacency?

Should we be channelling our resources to those who can get themselves out of the poverty cycle, those who want to be helped?

With rising living costs and property prices, the number of nomadic families is on the rise, The Straits Times reported in June this year.

Each of the nine family service centres interviewed said it sees between 10 and 30 such cases each year.

Families end up at void decks, beaches and parks - sometimes for years - as a result of bad decisions and poor planning.

They over-extend themselves financially by buying a bigger flat than they can afford, resulting in banks seizing their flats over unpaid mortgage payments.

So they end up on the streets until they are allotted rental flats from the HDB or till they can afford to rent or buy a unit in the open market.

Friends and family may help, but it's often not easy for so many people under the same roof to get along.

An FSC social worker, who declined to be named, said: 'Community resources are limited, and they need to be used wisely. If families don't want to help themselves, there is little we can do.'

Said Mr Ravi: 'Some say they have no money for food but they spend on cigarettes.'

With a recession on, the situation may only get worse.

Certainly, if attitudes don't change, things are not likely to improve. After all, the community can only help those who help themselves.

Tomorrow, we meet a family who lost their youngest son because they were deep in marital problems. They did not work for more than a year after his death.



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LONG JOURNEY

NOV 2006 TO JUN 2007:

Stayed at relative's three-room flat at Khatib before moving to three-room Chong Pang flat of Madam Juliana's mother for 3 weeks

JUL TO OCT 2007:

Stayed at friend's three-room flat in Chong Pang for a month, then at another friend's three-room flat for 3 months

OCT 2007:

Stayed at East Coast Park for 2 days. Discovered by social workers and referred to Yishun Family Service Centre

OCT 2007 TO MAY 2008:

Stayed with aunt in Chong Pang for 2weeks, then at another aunt's four-room flat in Yishun for 6 months.

MAY 2008

Spent night at Yishun void deck. Then stayed at Sembawang Park for 3 weeks.

JUN 2008

Stayed at Changi beach for two weeks, then went to Marsiling shelter for 3 months

SEP 2008

Stayed at their son's classmate's Hougang flat for 2 months. Now staying at Changi Beach.
 

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With rising living costs and property prices, the number of nomadic families is on the rise, The Straits Times reported in June this year.

in developed countries, high taxes gives disincentives for people to work hard....

but in sgp, high living costs and property prices, give sinkies reasons not to work? :biggrin:
 

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A common sight on MRT trains - baby prams and with parents barely near 20 from this indigenous group.
 

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<Why have so many children when they have no home? Madam Juliana said it was 'God's will' and the children were 'a joy'.>

NB, can't think of any to blame, she put the blame on god..

'joy':confused: she probably felt joy when screwing.. but she is bringing her children to this world to suffer..:eek:
 

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They are fucking lazy and breed so many children like a swine..now want tax payer to help them? fuck off to Iran

We must track the government and expose them of blatantly wasting state funds on such people and counterstrike the ISD whose powers have being compromised and misused !
 

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got hands got legs don't want to work, and live as if the whole world owe them a living. i just pity the kids for they deserve a better parents.
 

Conan the Barbarian

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I think the reason behind all these reporting is ........
We should not support the irresponsible poor and let them
develop a clutch mentality. :rolleyes:

SHE was intoxicated the night her youngest son suddenly fell sick.
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SHRINE: A glass cabinet houses Afiq's toys and photos, while Madam Noraini keeps his haversack of medical supplies close to her. TNP PICTURES: KELVIN CHNG

So when the 9-year-old boy, who was suffering from asthma, told Madam Noraini Selamat he was not feeling well, she ignored him.

Recalled Madam Noraini: 'He was playing with his bike when he stopped and said, 'Mum, I think I need to go to hospital.' He wasn't gasping for breath, so I ignored him.

'It was only later, when he suddenly started gasping, lying on his father's lap and crying for help, that we realised the danger he was in.'

Little Almarhum Muhammad Afiq collapsed in his father's arms and was rushed to Changi General Hospital. But he could not be saved. He died on 16Apr last year.

The child's death threw the family into turmoil.

Madam Noraini, 41, a housewife, and her husband, Mr Budi Segara Othman, 43, said they were too depressed to work for more than a year after the boy's death. They ran up debts of several thousand dollars.
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EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE: Mr Budi and his wife still blame each other for Afiq's death. Behind him is their 15-year-old daughter.

Since the middle of last year, the couple have also been seeking treatment at the Institute of Mental Health (IMH) for depression.

The couple have another son, aged 18. And Madam Noraini is filled with guilt.

She said: 'I am not a good mother. I neglected him. I was not around for this family and have been too preoccupied with my own affairs.'

They now want to share their story. Why? To get some help and purge the skeletons in their closet.

The family's troubles started about a year before their youngest boy's death, when Madam Noraini had an extra-marital affair, which Mr Budi discovered.

Said Mr Budi: 'We were fighting a lot, almost every other day. Things often got violent. We would throw things at each other, and once I hit her.

'Often, we fought in front of the kids.'

At the time, Madam Noraini was working as an airport security screening officer, earning about $1,800. Mr Budi was a driver, earning about $1,500.

Mr Budi said it was the second time he had caught his wife having an affair. The first time was in 2002.

He said: 'After the first time it happened, she promised not to do it again and things settled down.

'But when it happened a second time, it was very hard for me to forgive again.'

Because of their marital problems, Madam Noraini was often not home.

But it is their son's death which haunts the couple.

Said Mr Budi: 'My wife and I were both too consumed by our own problems. I cannot forget my son, lying in my lap, begging me to help him.

'And I could do nothing to save him.'

A glass cabinet in the family's living room has been transformed into a shrine in memory of their late son.

The cabinet is filled with toy cars he used to play with, his favourite Game Boy cartridge, his drawings and writings, and photographs, including one of his dead body.

Afiq's green haversack - filled with packs of asthma medicine and several inhalers - is what Madam Noraini keeps close to her these days. The boy had carried the bag with him wherever he went.

Three days after his death, Madam Noraini told Mr Budi she wanted a divorce.

Said Mr Budi: 'I was really angry because whenever things go wrong, she would bring up divorce as a way out. She doesn't think about our other two kids. We need to be strong for them.'

After Afiq's death, Madam Noraini was plunged into depression and left her job.

The resentment and blame the couple felt towards each other led to even more fights.

They said they even resorted to taking up personal protection orders against each other.

Madam Noraini started seeking treatment at IMH in July last year for depression. Mr Budi started his treatment at IMH the following month.

Mr Budi did not find work for more than a year and survived by borrowing money from a relative.

Found a job

It was only in August this year that Mr Budi found a job as a truck driver, taking home about $1,000. He has since been trying to repay the money that he owes.

He still owes Singapore Power about $430 for utilities and more than $5,000 in mortgage payments to HDB. The family has been living in a four-room flat in Sengkang for 11 years. In their living room is a flat-screen television - more than 40 inches wide - and a sound system.

Madam Noraini claimed that Mr Budi had picked up the discarded equipment years ago, when he worked as a mover.

They have sought help from the Punggol East Citizens Consultative Committee, which recently gave them $300 for their utilities. These days, Mr Budi tries to budget $150 for utilities, $100 for transport and the rest of his pay for his family's groceries and other necessities.

Their eldest son, who is waiting to enter national service, is also working, as a baggage carrier at the airport on an ad-hoc basis, earning about $100 a month.

Money problems aside, the couple are still struggling with their emotional baggage. It's not easy, they find, to get life back on an even keel.

When The New Paper visited the couple at home, there were several times when they turned on each other, raising their voices and blaming each other for their son's death.

Said Mr Budi: 'I just want to pick up the pieces and move on from here. Hopefully, our family can get back on our feet soon.'

Their hope lies not just in personal salvation but in the belief that sticking together as a family will ultimately see them through.
 

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They are fucking lazy and breed so many children like a swine..now want tax payer to help them? fuck off to Iran

They think they lived in 50s where families have up to a dozen children. Its
a case of a swine breeding piglets to be slaughtered. What they do not understand they had given life to 8 kids but forgot that deaths and agony awaiting them.
 

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got hands got legs don't want to work, and live as if the whole world owe them a living.

Quite common in this category of people. Don't see anything new and not surprised when I saw the report. Other than work, they are most willing to grab anything that is given free without much effort.

In fact I admire those Ah Po and Ah Pek in Chinatown, they feed with their own hard work of picking cans and carton at very old age and sometime may even reject help from others. These are people from two different world.
 

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http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,186369,00.html?

She turns down job offer with higher pay, doesn't want steady work. Her excuses:
TOO FAR
Transport costs will eat into pay
TOO PAINFUL
Can't work long hours due to old injury
By Genevieve Jiang

December 11, 2008

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POVERTY TRAP: Madam Lim holding letters from HDB and Singapore Power saying she owed them money. Behind on the beds are her three teenage children. TNP PICTURES: GAVIN FOO

WHEN community workers recommended a higher-paying full-time job earlier this year, she wouldn't take it.



Her reason: The workplace was too far.

Prospects at the proposed job were better than at her last job, as a part-time general worker at a voluntary welfare organisation.

Yet Madam Lim Geok Tin, 48, chose to rely on charity, free food rations and temporary financial help.

She also called this reporter to tell her story with the aim of seeking donations from the public.

She claimed she had not been working for the past year. But our checks showed this was not true.

The Central Community Development Council (CDC) and a nearby family service centre (FSC) revealed that she had been working until October this year earning about $500 a month.

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It was not known why she had to stop working.

Madam Lim, who is divorced, lives with her three teenage children in a rented one-room flat at Jalan Bukit Merah. She claims she does not get any maintenance from her ex-husband.

For the past few years, she has been supplementing her income with help from The Straits Times Pocket Money Fund. The CDC has also helped her with rental and service and conservancy vouchers.

Madam Lim claimed she cannot remember the number of times she has gone to her Member of Parliament for help to pay her rent and utilities.

She claimed her case worker from the FSC had told her there was little more that could be done to help her unless she found a proper job.

Said Madam Lim: 'I've been told many times by the social worker to get a stable job, but I cannot work long hours. I have an old injury in my back, left leg and right hand from years ago, which acts up now and then. I cannot stand or squat for long, and cannot carry heavy objects.'

The New Paper visited the family at home twice last week and noticed Madam Lim's right hand swathed in bandages. She appeared to have problems walking and standing, and frequently sought her children's help.

But she could not show us medical documents, claiming that she had not seen a doctor for her ailments.

Intellectually disabled

Her eldest daughter, now 17, is intellectually disabled. She also has a 15-year-old son and a second daughter aged 13.

Madam Lim claimed that she received $105 for only three months last year through the ST Pocket Money Fund. But her case worker, who declined to be named, said the amount was much more and help was extended over a much longer period.

She could not reveal the exact period and amount, citing client confidentiality.

Madam Lim also claimed that she was working as a contract worker at a factory last year, earning about $400 a month. Her contract ended in December last year and was not renewed. She has not found full-time work since, she claimed.

She said she works odd jobs a few days every month, earning only $5 an hour. But the CDC revealed that she had been earning $500 a month as a general worker until October.

She claimed that the CDC did not help her look for jobs. But a CDC spokesman said it had been 'advising her on getting long-term employment with better prospects, but she showed no interest'.

'The reason she gave was that her current employment could be reached by foot and that would save her money on transportation,' the spokesman said.

She had been switching jobs often, the FSC case worker said.

Madam Lim also claimed she had no money for food, but when asked about the bags of uncooked rice in her refrigerator, she admitted that she gets free monthly food rations, including canned food and biscuits, from the Salvation Army, and another nearby welfare organisation.

Her story was published in The New Paper two years ago when she received help from the Young Women's Christian Association's Meals-on-Wheels programme, under which free dinners are delivered to the family every weekday. She received several hundred dollars worth of donations after the article was published.

Madam Lim recently got in touch with this reporter again, asking for help to pay her rent and utility bills.

She received a letter from HDB dated 21Oct, a copy of which was shown to The New Paper, stating that she still owed $265, six months' rent. Another letter, from Singapore Power, dated 20Oct, stated that she still owed more than $500 in utility charges.

Madam Lim said her financial woes started in 2000, when her ex-husband's business ran into problems. She claimed that when the business failed, they were left with debts of thousands of dollars.

The family was then living in a three-room flat in Bukit Panjang. To help pay off the debts, they sold the flat and rented another three-room flat in the same area, she said.

But things didn't improve. Madam Lim's ex-husband could not get work.

In 2003, to avoid his creditors, they moved to another rented three-room flat, in Marsiling. Madam Lim found work as a dishwasher, earning about $200 a month. Her ex-husband was then still unemployed.

She claimed he was aggressive and often demanded money from her.

The couple separated in 2005 and are no longer in touch. As she did not want any contact with him, she quit her job as a dishwasher, she said.

Sell tissue packets

With no savings and no income, she resorted to selling packets of tissue on the streets with her children, she claimed.

In July 2005, Madam Lim took her children and moved to the one-room Jalan Bukit Merah flat where they live today.

Her elder daughter, who has an IQ of only 70 (normal is 90 to 110), has been attending a special school since 2006. Her school fees are subsidised.

The two younger children are in neighbourhood schools. Their school fees are waived, and the schools give them free books and vouchers for meals, she said.

During our visit, the son was fiddling with a hand-held electronic game. On his sister's bed was a Sesame Street soft toy, the size of a bolster.

Madam Lim claimed these were gifts.

She said: 'It's not that I don't want to work, but I cannot.'

So she continues to look for help from others. Old habits die hard.


TOMORROW: In the last of our four-part series, social workers speak of a problem they have grappled with for years - welfare shoppers and clients who refuse to help themselves.


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CLAIMS & COUNTER-CLAIMS

Madam Lim says she hasn't worked in the past year

Charity workers say she was working and earning about $500 a month up to October

She says she received $105 for only three months from ST School Pocket Money Fund

Case worker says she got much more and over a longer period

She says she has no money for food

When reporter spots bags of uncooked rice in the fridge, she admits she gets free monthly food rations
 

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December 11, 2008




THEY'RE penniless but won't work, living on any help they can get.


In our four-part series on troubled families here, we have reported on a family of 10 who have been homeless for the past two years, often living on beaches and in parks.



Community workers have recommended jobs, but they have been reluctant to take them up.


We also featured a couple who lost their youngest son partly because they were too preoccupied with their marital problems. They did not work for more than a year after his death, but survived by borrowing from a relative.


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