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theblackhole
13-02-2011, 05:23 AM
Thanks Bro Kia for sharing your experience with us.

From your own analysis, the long term play is actual LOSS and that is about $100K a year....

Bro Aurvandil is quite right in his assessment of the chances of losing at the IRs. From my limited experience, since the both IRs opened, I've contributed about $25K already averaging once a week...sometimes once in two weeks....if lucky, every week, and if not lucky..once in several weeks...but I realised that my winnings were quickly depleted when I returned...just couldn't keep my winnings...and the loss include all the previous winnings plus capital plus additional withdrawals..

and in the long run, a loser.....so i think we better take it easy and perhaps stay away from the casino as long as possible...it's a money sucking machine!!!!

cheesey
13-02-2011, 06:56 AM
Wow.. a cool 218k for slot expenses per annum for bro Kia.. That's why the popular saying exist - "Happy can liao".. hehe.

Kia0042
13-02-2011, 07:19 AM
Wow.. a cool 218k for slot expenses per annum for bro Kia.. That's why the popular saying exist - "Happy can liao".. hehe.


Work hard, Play hard, this is my life. ;)
You are right, happy can liao.

theblackhole
13-02-2011, 01:14 PM
Work hard, Play hard, this is my life. ;)
You are right, happy can liao.

take care Bro Kia....don't lose too much...

yes we really cannot buy happiness but we also cannot lose too much money .that will make us unhappy.

all the best and hope you are happy and hope you win continue to be happy always....cheers!

aurvandil
14-02-2011, 12:23 AM
I would like to salute both Bro Kia and Bro Blackhole for their honest and open sharing of their gaming experience. You have my respect.



Review on my past 1 year slot play...


From my limited experience, since the both IRs opened, I've contributed about $25K already averaging once a week...

All too often, we have wannabes with all sorts of wild stories like secret gambling kung-fu taught by mysterious ah peks or statistically impossible "double up" method with greatly exaggerated amounts to show "balls of steel".

While entertaining to read (and sometimes very funny if you are a real advantage player), this kind of bullshit can cause a lot of harm to newbies by giving the wrong impression of what the real gambling experience is like.

CoffeeMe
15-02-2011, 01:40 AM
Just got few articles from some websites. Now, please don't take this as an encouragement to go to casino. These articles mostly for newbies (like me) as a reminder that There's NO shourt cut to get rich and of course,for every entertainment there is always a price to pay.
Don't feel frustated when u lose, and don't lose too much.

Article 1:
DON’T LOSE CONTROL
Casinos are in the entertainment business and like other forms of entertainment we expect to pay a price for admission. Unlike a movie or Theme Park, the price of entertainment in the casino is not a fixed expense. You can spend a little or you can spend a lot. In some instance you have a shot at being paid for your entertainment when you win at the games. The reality is that most of the players lose when they visit the casino. This is the price they pay to play the games and the casinos are entitled to charge for supplying the gaming tables, dealers and machines. However you must realize that their primary business is separating you from your money and making you think you’re having fun while they do it.
The casino is a place of glitz and glamour. The excitement of the sights and sounds and the general atmosphere help to add to a fantasy world. Many people get caught up in the excitement. When this happens it is easy to get carried away and gamble more than you should. Even the best of us can be caught off guard and lose control when we fall into some of the casino traps that were designed to have us spend more. Here are some things to keep in mind when you visit the casino.
1) There are no clocks or windows in most casinos. They want you to forget about time and just focus on the games. Always wear a watch and set a time limit for you gambling activities. 2) They convert your cash into chips at the tables. You find yourself looking at the chips and seeing red and green tokens. You lose the sense that this is really money. This leads to over betting. Remember chips are money.
2) Most of the new slot machines use bill receptors that covert your bills into machine credits. Once your dollars become credits they seem to lose value. Many of the newer machines also use the ticket out system. Players have a tendency to play out a few credits rather than be bothered taking the slip to the cage. Put smaller denomination bills in the machine to start each session. If you lose it take a break.
3) Finally the pace of the casino is fast. The dealers try to deal at lightning speed. Take a second to make sure you are playing you hand correctly at the tables. If you are playing the machines, slow down the rate you are hitting the spin button.
4) They supply you with FREE drinks while you are playing. There is nothing like a few cocktails to loosen up your inhibitions. One gambling writer I know calls free drinks “Chip Remover.” Use moderation or wait until after you finish playing before you have any alcohol.
5) Don’t get greedy. One thing that turns winners into losers is the notion that once they win they are playing with the casino’s money. Once you win, it’s YOUR MONEY. Don’t give it back. When you get ahead take half of your winning and put it in a different pocket. It’s easy to leave the casino when all your money is gone. It takes discipline to walk away when you are ahead. Discipline and control is what separates winners from losers.
6) Set your entertainment price before you go to the casino. Don’t take more money to the casino than you can afford to lose.
Keep these tips in mind when you visit the casino and it will help you enjoy yourself without spending more than you had planned to. Keep in mind, if you don’t learn how to handle YOUR money, the casino will do it for you once it becomes THEIR money!

Article 2:
SLOTS MITH
The dictionary defines the following:
Myth: A popular belief that has grown around something. A traditional story to explain a practice, belief or natural phenomenon.
Misconception: Something interpreted incorrectly.
Both of these words are interchangeable when discussing the beliefs some people have about slot machines. Most people don't understand the inner working of the slots so it is easy to explain a loss or a win with some false logic. Like any other "wives tales" these are passed from person to person until they become gospel. Most of these myths and misconceptions are harmless but they can add to your frustration and take away some of the enjoyment from your casino visit. Let’'92s take a look at a few of the most popular myths and the truth behind them.
No other segment of the gaming industry has benefited more from the technology revolution than the slot machine. Once considered the ugly stepdaughter, placed on the gaming floor to appease the spouses of table players, the slot machine has been transformed into the fairy Princess of the gaming world. With her she has brought a dowry of riches no one would have imagined for the casino and a few lucky players as well. Twenty years ago the slot machine accounted for 30 percent of the casinos profits. Today it accounts for about 70 percent. Computer technology makes it possible to offer life-changing jackpots big enough to turn a pauper into a King.
This new technology also brings with it many myths and misconceptions as players try to unravel the mysteries of the modern computerized slot machine. Here are a few of the myths surrounding the slot machine.

Someone hit a jackpot on the machine you just left, you would have gotten that jackpot if you kept playing.
False. The slot machines have a computer chip inside that runs the Random Number Generator (RNG). The RNG is continuously cycling through numbers even when the machine is not being played. These numbers correspond to the stops on the wheel that display the winning or losing symbols that you see when the reels stop. When you hit the spin button or pull the handle, the RNG picks the combination at that given microsecond. If you had stayed at the machine, it is highly unlikely that you would have stopped the RNG at the exact nano-second to display that same combination of numbers. In the time it takes to talk with a friend or sip your drink the RNG has cycled through thousands of combinations.

You can tell the odds of winning by counting the symbols on each wheel.
No. The RNG generates a number for each spin. The number corresponds to the symbols on the Reel. There can be hundreds of Virtual stops on each wheel even though you only see a few symbols. For example you may see 20 symbols on each wheel of a three-reel machine. You figure 20 x 20 x 20 = 8,000 combinations and your chance of hitting the jackpot is 1 in 8000. In reality the computer chip may program 256 stops for each wheel which makes the odds 256 x 256 x 256 =16,777,216 combinations. Being able to generate millions of combinations is the reason that slots can offer large paybacks.

Casinos can loosen or tighten the slot machines with the flip of a switch.
False. The slot machines have a computer chip in them that determines the pay back percentage. These are preset at the factory. In order for a casino to change the pay back, they would have to change the chip. In most jurisdictions there is paper work that has to be filled and submitted to the Casino Control Commission for each machine if the chip is changed. It is time consuming and the chips are very expensive. For this reason, it is more economical to decide on the pay back percentages before purchasing the machines and having the factory ship them with the proper chip.

A machine that has not been paying is due to hit.
False. There is no way to determine if a machine is due to hit. Each spin is a random occurrence and has no bearing on what has happened previously. Don't ever play more than you should because of this myth. It will be devastating to your bankroll if you do.

The temperature of the coins played will affect the way a machine pays.
False. The machine is not affected by temperature. It doesn't matter if you play hot, cold, old or new coins. The coin slot is a mechanical device and has no feeling. There is one potential danger with this myth. I once saw a fellow burn his fingers while trying to heat up a coin with a lighter.

If you use your slot club card the machine will pay back less.
False. In my opinion, this is the most damaging myth of them all. There is no link between the card reader and the RNG. By not using you player's card you are denying yourself valuable comps and sometimes cash back from the casino.

Article 3:
LOCK UP YOUR WIN
I have to admit that one of the reasons I enjoy visiting the casino is the opportunity to meet and talk with other players. I’m outgoing by nature and have no problem chatting it up with my fellow players. Besides making new friends, I get the opportunity to find out what other players think and on occasion this gives me some good material for an article. Last week I had just such an encounter.
I was playing some video poker in a multi-game machine and a woman sat down next to me and began playing the slot machine. I started talking with her and through the course of our conversation I found out her name was Carolynn. She said she was on vacation and decided to visit the casino to play some slots and enjoy herself for a few hours. About twenty minutes after sitting down I heard her shriek. I thought by the sound she must have really hit a big jackpot. I looked over at her machine and saw that she had hit a jackpot of $250. I congratulated her on the win.
Carolynn told me she was really happy because she had only brought $40 to play with. She said “I felt really lucky today and thought I would try to win $100 or go broke trying.”
“You more than doubled your goal. Are you going to quit?”I asked fully anticipating what her answer would be.
I was not surprised when she said “No. I just got here and think I should play for a while. I told you this was my lucky day.”
“Well make sure you lock up your $100 profit.” I told her.
She asked me what I meant by locking up a profit. I explained it to her this way. “You came to the casino with $40 in hopes of making $100. You should put at least $140 aside and then play with the rest. This way you are guaranteed that you go home with $100 profit you wanted.”
“But I don’t want to cash out and put the money away” she said.
You don’t have to cash out.” I said “Did you put all of the $40 in when you started?”
She told me that she had only put $20 in the machine. I looked over and she had 1036 credits. “You still have $20 in you pocket. You have $259 in credits on the machine. All you have to is play down until your reach 440 credits. That is $120 which equals the $20 you started with and $100 profit. That will be your stop loss figure. If you want to take more home with you then you can set it higher. Just make sure you don’t go lower than that” I told her.
She said that sounded good to her. A little later I got up and left. I don’t know if shed took my advice or not. I hope she did. Too often people hit a small or medium size jackpot quickly when they sit down to play only to lose it all. Because they are going to be at the casino for a while they naturally want to play and they end up giving it all back and then they feel bad about not quitting while they were a winner. Learning to lock up a profit will avoid this and make your trip to the casino more enjoyable. There is nothing like the feeling you get when you go home a winner.

theblackhole
15-02-2011, 04:13 AM
in theory everything looks so nice and so well managed...once you step inside the casino, you become a demon...completely out of control..you mind becomes the devil's playground.....MONEY AND GREED!!!!... can you imagine how you feel when you bet $500 on BIG and it remains BIG for the next 8 times!!!!!!!!! You are RICH!!!!!!! So easy to make money..so easy....so enjoy the entertainment....no need to work so hard...no need to go to office to face the black face lady boss....no need to go home to face your grumpy wife...no need to meet all your old foggy friends....no need to sleep...no need to fuck even.....just gamble day and night....night and day....so fun one..... until one fine day....you start to lose your pants and your underpants!!!!!!! ...welcome to HELL.

good luck to all those discipline and restraint....really good luck!!!!!

Kia0042
10-03-2011, 02:25 AM
Our previous posts have lost, pity.
BTW, I won the cashexpress JP 9.9k last evening. :p

jjcc88
10-03-2011, 04:28 AM
Our previous posts have lost, pity.
BTW, I won the cashexpress JP 9.9k last evening. :p

Wa congrats Kia !
You the really can one :D:)

Well, it MIGHT seem lately that there's some 'trend of winnings' though might not be possible to preserve them with my continued play :p
Last Fri 4th March got the 2k Platinum JP at fav Diamonds & Roses slot
On Mon 7th March got 1k from 4 scatters at a B1 Classic Winners slot
Then last night Wed I DIDN'T LOSE my playing capital (very happy already !) :);):cool:
(and got $30 Big Sweep prize from the Toto AngPow pack bought from MBS on 18 Feb too - still yet to claim that $30)

Hmmm ... wonder if that good trend will continue if I go to RWS instead
Should I go RWS this evening and/or maybe after my Spa appointment this Fri PM ?

I think I can 'restore/repost' some recent posts here
- just copy from the email alerts that aren't deleted yet

Kia0042
10-03-2011, 05:44 AM
1 day before I won the 14k JP, I told myself that I must stop betting 300credits(2cts) at MBS and should keep it at 150credits(2cts) and 60credits(5cts) or below. Since then, I managed to minimize my lost, gain longer play time and also able to win $500-$1000 during my last few trips.
No more 300 credits bet at MBS unless the machine is at it's super good timing mode. ;)
Aristocrat games are still my favorites, USA made slots like Platinum JP, Diamonds & Roses, Goldfish, Rescue spin just can't make me stay long with them. And those Atronic slots at MBS, they have been long forgotten by me.

jjcc88
10-03-2011, 06:09 AM
On 6 March aurvandil replied to Kia's post :

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I don't think they are allow to do so!
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Previously, I had provided some links to documents issued by CRA on the conduct
of slots and other casino games.

The part on the minimum payout is worded rather carefully that the 90% is for
the lifetime of the machine.

There is nothing in the CRA documents about changing the odds at different times
or that slot machines must have fixed odds that cannot change.

Hence under the current regulations, it is perfectly legal to have a slot pay
95% during off peak hours and 93% during peak hours.

With regard to the patents filed by IGT and other slot makers, the key part in
many of the patents is the keeping of records of the odds/payouts for audit
purposes.
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jjcc88
10-03-2011, 06:12 AM
Here is the message that has just been posted by aurvandil :
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---Quote (Originally by jjcc88)---
2. How many credits best to whack at each different game or machine ?
Rough guide pls
---End Quote---

The following might be useful. Based on what you have written, you are playing
"high variance" slots. If you want to stretch your gaming experience,
you should play "low variance" slots.

"Low variance" slots refer to games where the gap between 3/4 of a
kind to 5 of a kind is small. An average gap of 3 to 5 in the payout table
would give you a low variance slot.

"High variance" slots refer to games where the gap between 3/4 of a
kind to 5 of a kind is large. An average gap of more than 10 would be a high
variance slot.

In general, slots with progressive jackpots have a higher variance than an
equivalent slot wihout a progessive jackpot (e.g. Kia's 5Koi that is not linked
to the progessive jackpot).

On the expected return, CRA mandates a minimum of 90%. No casino in the world
however programs slots with such a poor return. This is because the loss would
be so fast and devastating, no one would ever come back to play.

In general, 93% to 97% is the most common expected return for slots in order for
them to be commercially viable. Given all the slots are now linked via wireless
network, it is quite easy to have an application to vary the return at
different times. Since these are well above 90%, there is no running afoul of
CRA regulations.

The casinos vigorously deny doing this and say that this is a conspriacy theory.
However examing the patents filed by big slots makers like IGT reveals that
they have patented technologies that do just this. If the casinos were not
buying and deploying this capability, why would they be doing so much work and
patenting this?

Good advice therefore is to avoid crowded periods like CNY where almost everyone
seems to have lost $$$.


---Quote---
http://www.slotjunkies.net/online-slots/variance.php

For the uninitiated, the word "variance" in this context equates to
the word "risk", or put simply, a low variance slot machine is
basically a "low risk" slot machine. The risk element however does
not affect the expected payout. Most of the video slots featured here at
SlotJunkies have an expected return between 93% and 97% and whether they are
"low variance" or "high variance" doesn't affect that one
bit. What the slots variance does affect is how the slot game pays you and this
has a knock-on effect which should dictate how much you bet on a spin, how
large a bankroll you need and how soon you are likely to run out of money! It
helps to have a good slot strategy in place before you play!

In simple terms, a low variance slot will pay you a combination of half decent
and "token gesture" wins more often, while a high variance slot will
give you mainly token gesture wins and very occassionally a monster! There is
of course some middle ground. How do you tell if a slot is low, medium or high
variance? Well, the only way is to play - or use this site - and while the
paytable can sometimes give you some clues, it's not a decisive indicator. Most
casino software providers don't publish the variance rating of their online
slots either, which is a shame. IGT slots are the exception to the rule and
from their data we can see that most of their slot games fall between 93% and
96%.

If you look at the paytable of most online video slots you often get a hint at
the variance. If you see, for example, that 3 or 4 of a kind pays out
relatively low, while 5 of a kind seems to be a lot more (perhaps 10 times more
than 4 of a kind), the chances are you are looking a high variance slot. If the
gap between 3, 4 and 5 of a kind tends to be in 3-5x range of it's lower paying
cousin, then you're possibly leaning more toward a lower/medium variance. But
this is not decisive - a lot depends on how many symbols there are on a reel,
whether there is a jackpot on the slot or how many paylines the slot has.

Having played the majority of online slots, I have added a rough indicator of
the slot variance for every game to Slot Junkies [.net]. It's not a bible, but
it does give a pretty good indicator. Once you have got a feel for the variance
of a given game, the most important thing is that you balance your betsize
accordingly. A failure to do this could mean that you run out of money before
you hit a decent win. Players that don't understand this concept are more
likely to feel that a slot game is rigged, whereas none of the casinos using
the top software and listed here at Slot Junkies have the ability, or facility,
to rig games. Every slot has it's bad streaks and variance plays a decisive
role.
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jjcc88
10-03-2011, 06:14 AM
Here is the message that has just been posted by Kia0042 :
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---Quote (Originally by jjcc88)---
BTW - Kia & other slot "old-hands" here

1. Izzit much much better to go down to the casinos on WEEKNIGHTS rather than
during the Weekends (Fri - Sun) ???
Maybe? Coz many people "donated" during the weekend. :rolleyes:
Personally, I don't think there is any difference ;).

For one, less crowds means more chance at the machines we want to play ?
Does it ALSO mean Better Luck/Wins/etc ????
Slot are random, no matter more/less crowds, do you agree after all these months of playing at the 2IRs? I am still asking this question to myself too. :o

2. How many credits best to whack at each different game or machine ?
Rough guide pls -
Aristrocat machines - Since I only familiar with Aristrocat.
My personal view - MBS slots are more "meant for" 25-30 credits small
time players (2,5,10cts).

3. Do the casinos 'moderate' the slots such that at Certain Timings/Days much
less chances of Good Payouts etc ??
I don't think they are allow to do so!

4. WHEN or WHICH TIMING is better - on average ???
Personally, me thinking that there is no certain good / bad timing, but most will think after weekend/PH has better chance coz many people "donated" liao. ;)

I was thinking - IF go after work during the work week
- if less crowds means more chances at our fav machines
- shoud then be able to utilise our limited capital at those preferred slots
rather than wasting $ at some other 'available slots while waiting to see
whether the fav ones will become free later'
- AND because it's a working week we MUST leave the casino LATEST around 2-3 am
timing or so if we don't want to be a zombie the next day
so that FORCES Out or prevents 9-10-hour long visits

Maybe I should monitor and see how .....
only thing is MOST if not all of my visits (whether weekend or non-weekend) just
end up with Sheer Losses only .... sighzzzz :o :(

EDIT : OK - I realise some questions are just too stupid ....
After all, in casinos we're talking gambling and LUCK for slots especially
Guess if we are not lucky it's just that ... no wins only losses etc etc etc You
are absolutely right, if u r lucky on that day, no matter which machine you
play oso can will, even table games.

For me I realise it's more a case of :
STOP - No more/further play .....
---End Quote---

Imagine lost 2-3k per trip till I hit 14k JP on 4 Mar, it was a 3 consecutive
weeks losses at MBS for me(rws levy expired mid feb), you have no idea how
"jia lat" it was :(.
I consider to renew my RWS levy soon coz I really have no luck at MBS even with
my favourite standalone 5koi. :(
I think I have better luck at RWS coz I feel more comfortable at RWS. At MBS, I
always have a feeling that a "GIANT EYE" is WATCHING at me!:.
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jjcc88
10-03-2011, 06:16 AM
Here is the message that has just been posted by Kia0042 on 4th March 2011 :
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After my consecutive losses at MBS for the past 3 weeks, I finally got a Cash
Express JP 14k. Got back half of the amount that I have "invested" at
MBS.

Image: http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/kia0047/4mar.jpg
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jjcc88
10-03-2011, 06:40 AM
1 day before I won the 14k JP, I told myself that I must stop betting 300credits(2cts) at MBS and should keep it at 150credits(2cts) and 60credits(5cts) or below. Since then, I managed to minimize my lost, gain longer play time and also able to win $500-$1000 during my last few trips.
No more 300 credits bet at MBS unless the machine is at it's super good timing mode. ;)
Aristocrat games are still my favorites, USA made slots like Platinum JP, Diamonds & Roses, Goldfish, Rescue spin just can't make me stay long with them. And those Atronic slots at MBS, they have been long forgotten by me.

I know what you mean here

I'm the IMPATIENT type so I tend to want to 'hurry' the payouts/free games etc by playing 125/150 credits (in order to get a better Multiplier Effect with the free games)
BUT on certain days there's really NO POINT doing this as those Free Games just REFUSE to come and we're just simply WASTING the credits

Nowadays I try to go for 50/60 credits so that there's at least a 2x multiplier there (With 25/30 credits there's no multiplier effect BUT I've noticed that on certain days/certain machines will only give MORE Frequent Free Games when playing 30 credits compared to playing the higher 60 or 150 credits !)

AND I might even switch to 2 credits but on 15 lines instead of the usual 25 playing 30 credits (as then only the Final Line '2 blocks' are blocked out)
(but also occasionally can 'regret' if it turns out FIVE full fishes/coins/dragons/'A's/ etc so miss out on the FULL Higher Payout there)

Eg for the High Limit 10c Shen Long Dragon slots
I now play 30 credits rather than 50 credits AND STILL am able on lucky days to get some good spins/returns from that
Of course no way have I obtained the very high returns that you Kia has gotten, but I'm happy if I can grow my $50-100 note 2x-4x there !

jjcc88
10-03-2011, 06:58 PM
Hmmm ... wonder if that good trend will continue if I go to RWS instead
Should I go RWS this evening and/or maybe after my Spa appointment this Fri PM ?



Jialat - spoke too soon (pantang ?)
I lost all yesterday's "saved capital" plus another 1k withdrawn tonight
Simply a Bad Night especially at the 1st Half

Maybe I shouldn't have :
- gone to mBS tonight but to RWS instead
- made that bad decision to start play at the L1 Fafafa slot
- stuck myself to that lousy machine for so long (being my usual stubborn self etc )

The 1st Half tonight was just terrible
Play what lose what etc until all capital gone :mad: :(

Later on with the fresh 1k, things were slightly better but at the end I also played until all capital/winnings were eroded away :o
eg went back to that same Classic Winners slot, got a $200 win etc and grew my $100 into $300++ BUT instead of stopping play I continued until everything was lost before willing to shift from my seat and calling it a night !!!

Didn't know it was raining heavily tonight sighsssss ....

Also confirmed this finding :
Must NOT wear this particular blue top for the casino as I noticed Sheer/Bad Losses whenever I wear it :eek:

Think I'll take a break on Fri (not a 'lucky day for games of chance/gambling')
Most probably might go on Sat-Sun and next Wed mid-week ??

Kia0042
11-03-2011, 04:09 AM
Thanks jjcc88 for retrieving the previous posts.

The MBS slots seems quite "friendly" to me recently, I'm fine with lower bet at MBS now. The "jialat" experience for the month of Feb was a very good lesson to me. I have now "adjusted" myself to lower bet at MBS. ;)

jjcc88
13-03-2011, 08:17 PM
Hey - what happened to bro blackhole's Sat posts ???
Did u delete them ?

Anyway after the disastrous Thurs losses I stayed away until Sun when I met my friend for tea Sun afternoon
She returned me cash for the LV handbag charm I'd paid on her behalf with my credit card during our Feb CNY trip
So using that as well as what was in my wallet - very very modest capital of just $750 (didn't want to draw from ATM as balances really horrifyingly low :o) for just what I thought would be a very brief slot session tonight (after watching the 8 pm Wonder Full display - don't really like it as such shows shouldn't have 'subliminal messages' there I feel with the images and the water-waves were simply too 'monotonous' etc :rolleyes::confused:

Surprisingly tonight turned out to be a Good Session - tho' NOT a short one as intended !!!
Had I stopped after playing the 2 slots I would have retained ALL of my grown $750 profit - exchanged out $1.5k
Had a good session at 1 CashTrain Express Fortune King slot (NOT my usual favs) and then at my fav Diamonds & Roses progressive slot
But ITCHY Me instead of going straight up the escalator to catch a cab home before mid-nite, had to DETOUR and go back to the CashTrain Area where I played 4 other Fortune King slots there and ended up losing like $400 of my $750 profits before 3 am !!!! :( :o

BTW - when it came to my turn at the taxi-queue - unfortunately got a pricey Limo Cab tonight
Wow - instead of my usual $18 average fare with the midnite charges, tonight's cab must be the most expensive to-date at $30.30 (he waived off the 30cts). THey start off at $5 rather than $3 etc
Next time this happens, I must 'siam' and go for the regular-priced cabs :o :p
Of course when you compare to my losses, this is really nothing BUT ....... :rolleyes:

The next 'good gambling day for me' is supposedly Wed
Now should I go to RWS instead of MBS then ????
MBS is much more convenient for me tho'

BTW was exploring one of the gift shops at MBS
Saw this compass stuck to some stationary pad
Was thinking of buying it - then decided to check its 'accuracy' with 2nd compass and one was 'off'
Decided against buying it after that
Think better buy a pure accurate compass from somewhere else :eek:

Well tonight I had the discipline to play with much lowered capital
But NOT the discipline to stop and have a SHORT Session .... sighsssss

I hope I"ll be able to preserve my profits/capital for a much much longer timeframe as then no need to have to draw from the ATMs

I also went to MBS LiveWire to claim my BigSweep 3D prize (from the $10 Million Toto Ang Pow pack) and SURPRISE SURPRISE
Instead of the $30 I was expecting, I got $60 because '147' came out Twice
Well I bought System 7 Toto and April Big Sweep - hope I strike something BIG this time round ! :D;)

theblackhole
14-03-2011, 06:40 AM
Hi JJcc and BroKia and all brothers and sisters here, Golden Dragon and Silverfox,

Yah lor, something happpened and my posts were gone! Something not right here lah. Anyway, I've stopped going to the casinos for quite some time. Went with friends to US and stole a look at the RWS casino. Played the Aliens Vs Gladiators.Not bad. Won $400 ! Capital $100.Levy $100. Left the casino quite happy.Did not lose this time. Lost quite a lot at MBS last year.So keeping a very low profile....

Thanks for the FR on the slots. I've come to the conclusion: play slots, win MUST RUN! stay longer, all the winnings plus capital surely gone. so please be very careful with these " one arm monsters" - they simply gobble all your money! one auntie told me at RWS, she had just lost $4K on slots alone!!! one single morning! she must be playing maximum! Another uncle told me he won $3K playing maximum Aliens Vs Gladiators! I don't know how much he had lost. But in the long run, the Game Of Large Numbers will eat up all our winnings. So do play with great restraint and caution.

Good Luck to your TOTO DRAW and to all your slots too!!!

Kia0042
15-03-2011, 06:47 AM
Pretty good game time I had last evening, no big win thought but had a great time playing Fortune King, 5 Dragon, 5Koi and also Fortune Foo which I started to pay a little attention to it recently.
Able to win about $500-600 after playing 4hours, last minute before leaving, hit the Prosperity JP2 1.9k, that made my total win to 2.4k. Call it a night. :p

theblackhole
15-03-2011, 07:34 AM
Pretty good game time I had last evening, no big win thought but had a great time playing Fortune King, 5 Dragon, 5Koi and also Fortune Foo which I started to pay a little attention to it recently.
Able to win about $500-600 after playing 4hours, last minute before leaving, hit the Prosperity JP2 1.9k, that made my total win to 2.4k. Call it a night. :p

Congrats Bro Kia!!! Take it easy okay. I hope more big JPs will come your way.I'm still in the dumps.Dare not play too much and too long. Still feeling the pain of the previous losses.

Kia0042
23-03-2011, 06:20 AM
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jjcc888
23-03-2011, 07:54 AM
Thanks kia - the links work now :)

I'm the previous jjcc88 now jjcc888 hahaha .... couldn't register old nick somehow

Kia - have you signed for fresh annual levy at RWS - or still only doing MBS now ???

My last RWS trip last mid-week was the usual disaster-loss :mad:
My Monday trip to MBS was good .... will be going again to MBS tonight :p

Kia0042
24-03-2011, 05:29 AM
I have not renew my RWS levy. After all these weeks of playing at MBS, kinda " get used to it". I have no intention to renew RWS levy in short future coz they treat me like "grass" even I have earned 50,000GP in a year.:mad: I have not receive any news from them about my upgrading of card status.
For the month of March, I have been doing pretty well at MBS except last week I tried to bet higher (300-600credits) and the result is - Burnt & Lost Fast. :( So now I keep to 150credits play at MBS.
I have earned lots of Premier Dollars winthin this 2 months and redeemed for suite stays last Feb, Mar and coming April. Redeemed a bottle of PD1k red wine at Imperial Tresure. PD doesn't "grow" if exceed PD20k, spend it or waste it !;)

cheesey
24-03-2011, 05:53 AM
I might be joining MBS after my current RWS levy ends as it seems they have better benefits judging from Kia experience.

Btw, is it true u buy in 100k chips at MBS and they will auto give u dunno what membership and from then on u can enjoy free parking? After get membership, just change back the 100k to cash.

Kia0042
24-03-2011, 09:13 AM
I think it is Paiza card, I am not sure 100k can "buy" the card, really??:confused: You need to maintain a certain game points every month in order to keep our Paiza card. They can downgrade you anytime if you cannot meet their requirement.

I was invited to become a Paiza gold member, Gold level is the lowest end within the Paiza card, there are Paiza Platinum & Paiza Diamond.

Oh yes btw, I also received a total of $2,000 (eqv to 1 yr levy) food voucher on this promotion month - March. Earn 500 points and get $500 food voucher each week.

Free parking for Diamond & Paiza card members and in additional, Paiza has reserved lots at B4, valet parking for Paiza members at casino and hotel are also free.

MBS gives loads of benefits but seldom let me WIN from their games. :(
RWS never give me any but let me WIN most of the time. :o

theblackhole
24-03-2011, 02:06 PM
Hi Kia and JJcc,

So nice to hear from both of you. Happy to know that Kia is doing well in MBS. And JJcc is getting more cautious and playing smart keeping the winnings and prevent losses.

I had a short fling after my lunch at MBS. Played the 5 cent Panda at B1. Not bad.Hit several features and also the Big Panda appeared twice. I walked away with a credit of $500. Not bad for a cautious start.

I think the Quick Hits have stopped paying. I have also stopped playing. ChoySanYah is still not too bad. The bank buster also not too bad. The white tooth tiger is also not bad.

Overall after three hours of play...played 30 and 50 credits only...won a bit and left a very cautious player now.

Wishing all of you good luck and big big JPs!!!

Good Luck to all and hope you all strike big big.

jjcc888
24-03-2011, 07:31 PM
Ya I am playing with reduced capital most days now
From 2k or/& above to just 1k - 1.5k level nowadays
This also forces the stay to be 'shortened in a sense' as less $$ to turnover
(ie. if not withdrawing more from the ATM - keep telling myself NOT to do this BUT .... :( )


Anyway this week so far at MBS :

- Mon was good ie. postive

- Wed was lousy - lost half my playing capital

- Tonight Thurs was good again as I managed to recoup my Wed's lost capital - had I stopped my slot play earlier would ALSO have retained some extra $300 odd profits
Had a very good initial run at my fav CashTrain Fortune King slot - nice double retriggers etc - made some $800++ with just 3 x $50 notes
Made a little at WOF (Wheel of Fortune) tonight
Kia's standalone 5Koi also behaved itself well tonight for the earlier stretch of the night but not the latter part !!!)
Also played briefly the B1 Panda (haven't touched it since like last year !) but not so fun/good-paying as previously :confused:
I had a fun lucrative time playing just 30 credits at the 2 10cts Shen Long slots at the High Limit Area which were pretty responsive tonight (didn't bother with the nearby QuickHits since so hard to be positive playing those)

- I guess I'll be at MBS on my FRI PM OFF again as very last day on Sat to claim their Gift Voucher for this week's points (didn't bother to claim an earlier $15 one since value was so small)
Also have until end-March for their 'Club' Promo - in April

Think will make 2nd RWS visit for month of March during the weekend
Need to play minimal 25 points TWICE a month - in order to get the Annual Passes for Universal Studio etc (wonder whether it's worth it)
If only I could get some DECENT WINS from RWS
The lucky break-out at RWS didn't last at all - seems like rotten play most times (losses)

Next Mon - will take PM Leave with a couple of secretaries for MBS
(Thought might as well since Mon is supposedly an auspicious day of sorts for me too (hopefully it includes gambling and not just romance etc) & just using my CNY 4 Feb Fri P.Hol 'half-day credit-back' - since now no more 'Cheaper/Offer Rooms' from MBS will see whether the secretaries are keen to go to the SkyPark for free with the 2 complimentary passes available to Diamond Members' guests etc (after the D&D in Jan it was not possible for a SkyPark visit as it was already closed and some secretaries were hoping to do that at my future 'free' MBS Stay (unfortunately that is a thing of the past as now no more such benefits :mad: ..... remember the driving point for my paying the 2k levy for MBS and earning/playing HARD for Membership Upgrade was to be able to enjoy the FREE ROOM Benefits (or at least Offer-Rate Rooms) !!!!!! %%&#@$**** Felt so played out now :mad::( )

Kia - I DON'T have 20k PD like you as I'm NO high-roller player
My PD balance is only a fifth of yours at just above 4k
I don't think I'll ever get that invitation for Paiza Gold (me just small-time slot junkie BUT with heavy losses at this terribly expensive blood-sucking hobby sighzzzzz)

BTW - I left MBS before 2am tonight (Wed I left just after 3am !!!!)
Now IF ONLY I can stop my slot play by 10 - 10.30pm, then don't need to pay the mid-nite cab charges. Find the express bus already too crowded by the time it arrives at the MBS Bus Stop - so not a very comfortable option as the air-con is way too cold too !

CoffeeMe
26-03-2011, 01:56 AM
Last night saw a lady won 50k jackpot at mbs cashtrain 2cent. Woow i wonder how it feel :) but the lady don't seems that high ley.. Btw, could it be u jjcc888?:)

Kia0042
26-03-2011, 02:28 AM
I was at the cashexpress area too but I didn't notice someone won the JP, ha.
Althought I 've won the Prosperity JP2 (1.7k), still I didn't make any profit home, nevertheless, I had a fun time last evening, lost a few hundred dollars for 6-7hours play .;)

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26-03-2011, 02:49 AM
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jjcc888
26-03-2011, 02:38 PM
Last night saw a lady won 50k jackpot at mbs cashtrain 2cent. Woow i wonder how it feel :) but the lady don't seems that high ley.. Btw, could it be u jjcc888?:)

No - how I wish it was me indeed :p
People want to 'act cool' mah ..... :)
Now I woud feel 'great' knowing 50k would enable me to enjoy this bloodsucking expensive hobby longer (in addition to replacing some of the losses incurred) :D

I did my usual Fri PM - niteover and only left MBS after 3pm Sat - took Express Bus and easy to get a seat at this timing
Play result was MIXED then turned BAD - didn't want to go home Sat early morning and notti-me did altogether 2x ATM Withdrawals (smaller sums tho')
Claimed my $100 (2 x $50 ones expiring 31st March) Gift Voucher - guess best thing is to buy chocs/sweets at SWEET SPOT given the tight timeframe ???

Played the same usual slots at different timings during Fri & Sat
What was bad turned good then bad again etc as usual
No one slot will stay consistently 'good/paying-out' - has variations at different timings :mad: :o :( :rolleyes:
Played the CLASSIC WINNERS hoping for REPEAT of the 1k win with 4 scatters - but no luck this visit (but my neighbour's slot got it) - DID get the 4 RED 7s $200 twice and some $15 3 RED s etc
At the WOF slots - 1st round was really lousy
2nd Round being the ONLY player there - got the GREEN JP and made some, only to lose the $ at other slots
Same for the 10cts SHEN LONG slots - not good this time .....
My Roses&Diamonds etc also NO good this trip .....
Kia's 5KOI & the Fortune King were really BAD for the whole of this trip ......
Not much point playing 150 credits as the 'wins' when any are 'lower' than the spin credit etc
Most of the time this trip - just playing/spinning with lousy/nil returns :(
Largely on the whole most slots were just NOT paying out
Also lost a couple of hundreds at the QUICKHITS (only got 1 lousy FreeGame) and $50-100 at HOTSHOTS
Didn't go up L1 to play the slots there at all

Now considering NOT to go RWS Sun tomorrow (parent making LOTS of noise lah !) for 2nd visit in March (???) -
already spent over-budget with the losses
Let's see how I feel after next Mon's MBS trip - still got another 3 days till the 31st March for RWS !
CURRENT RWS SLOTS PROMO - if lucky get $200 from playing at that 'lucky' seat that day
BUT find RWS really cheapskate here as only about 18 x $200 DAILY given out
ONLY EIGHTEEN Per DAY for the whole of RWS Slots - REALLY STINGY !!!! %4####&7##@@

(Those MBS Lion King Vouchers also quite 'boliao' as don't expect me to buy stuff in order to use them etc
Straight outright gifts like that LionKing character soft toy is OK)

BTW I have NOT been up the MBS Ruby Room at all this year
Any NEW changes/benefits etc ????
I hate the HIGH dining chairs there - very laychay to climb for those with Bad Knees like me now :o
Me getting older and 'frail' luh .... hahahahaha :p
I look terrible nowadays when lack of sleep etc .....

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27-03-2011, 03:16 AM
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CoffeeMe
27-03-2011, 07:26 AM
Actually betting big 150-300 credits doesn't mean guarantee win big. Several occasion only with 60 credits can make a good payout. Once i hit 2x full fish at choy sen yee which win 40k credits. And the other benefits is my bankroll last longer. The most critical part is to tell oneself not staying too long, say, max 2hrs. Agree with bro Kia's principle: play with a good mood :) indeed, slots is just a game. So should treat like it is. Now i only play few machines, the most 3-5 games. If i only target at $100, pessimistically lose limit at $500. I think the most important is still the inner thinking of one self.

jjcc888
27-03-2011, 10:32 AM
Actually betting big 150-300 credits doesn't mean guarantee win big. Several occasion only with 60 credits can make a good payout. Once i hit 2x full fish at choy sen yee which win 40k credits. And the other benefits is my bankroll last longer. The most critical part is to tell oneself not staying too long, say, max 2hrs. Agree with bro Kia's principle: play with a good mood :) indeed, slots is just a game. So should treat like it is. Now i only play few machines, the most 3-5 games. If i only target at $100, pessimistically lose limit at $500. I think the most important is still the inner thinking of one self.

Impatient people like me like to hit the bigger payouts with the BIGGER Multiplier (150 credits = 5x multiplier = max 25 free games) FASTER rather than play SLOW & STEADY with just 30 (NO Multiplier) or 50-60 credits (2x Multiplier)
BUT on certain days/timings those specific slots will only pay if we play 30-60 and NOT with 150-300 credits - so really no point playing higher then !!!!


EXAMPLE 2 ct slots :
1. At 25-30 credits, if get 5 FISH = only 800 credits win
2. At 50-60 credits, will get 800 x 2 = 1600 credits win
3. At 125-150 credits, will get 800 x 5 = 4000 credits win = $80 ($200 5 cts)

Yes - STILL working on the DISCIPINE part :
- To bring lower/less playing capital (achieved bc bank balances pretty low now - BUT may defeat purpose if I do further ATM WDs later in order to play on longer)
- Somehow just CAN'T force myself to only stay 2-3 hours or even 6 hours
(IF it's a working day the next day no choice but to leave LATEST 3 or 4am - tho' normally would be around 2+am)
- Find that I MUST really STOP once there are decent wins instead of staying on to try other slots etc ..... BUT find it really difficult for a SHORT Visit as intention is to play my fill during the longest-possible timeframe & to make the 'trouble of getting/leaving there' worth it
MUST LISTEN TO MYSELF : Preserving Winnings/Capital MORE IMPORTANT than mere playing on etc .....

I actually DON'T have any targets as such - tho' I'll feel more comfortable IF I'm able to grow/multiply my capital at the Initial Start as that allows for some room/margin ....
Tho' I did stop very quickly after getting very decent 1k or 2k payouts (last week) as then only lost $100s from the winnings from staying longer instead of LOSING ALL as in most other days when Winnings were only in the BELOW 1k Category
And of course on certain BAD Days when lose all capital fast IF my urge to play is strong then I'll do the forbidden ATM WDs sighzzzzz .....
- MUST WORK more on STOP LOSS TARGETS (right now don't seem to have any as such) - guess $500 is a Good Target but means VERY SHORT STAY only !!!!

Hmmm ..... now only ouch ouch ouch .... very painful losses :mad::(:eek::rolleyes:

silverfox@
27-03-2011, 04:24 PM
Claimed my $100 (2 x $50 ones expiring 31st March) Gift Voucher - guess best thing is to buy chocs/sweets at SWEET SPOT given the tight timeframe ???


BTW I have NOT been up the MBS Ruby Room at all this year
Any NEW changes/benefits etc ????
I hate the HIGH dining chairs there - very laychay to climb for those with Bad Knees like me now :o
Me getting older and 'frail' luh .... hahahahaha :p
I look terrible nowadays when lack of sleep etc .....

Ruby Room not much people, like ghost town. Even casino become less crowded, aircon colder. You can use your gift voucher to eat at a few restaurants. (outside the casino). :D Some restaurants can use Premier Dollars to offset. Now I slowly week by week trying to eat up the P.D. trying out various restaurants. Before reserving, please ask them whether can offset the bill using Premier Dollars. Not all do. The casual restaurants already can set your bill back by at least $60-$80 per pax.

So for people like Kia, he can play and play and eat at the restaurants almost every 1-2 days.

silverfox@
27-03-2011, 04:29 PM
Imperial Treasure can use P.D.? I called and they said can't.

jjcc888
27-03-2011, 04:35 PM
Imperial Treasure can use P.D.? I called and they said can't.

NO - not stated on Vouchers too

I guess unless it's some Special Voucher like the LION KING PROMO SLIPS we might get with certain Card Swipes
eg. I got a LION KING one at JING SHAN where I'm entitled to one free dessert etc with a minimum spend of $50 for one etc ......

jjcc888
28-03-2011, 02:05 AM
I actually DON'T have any targets as such - tho' I'll feel more comfortable IF I'm able to grow/multiply my capital at the Initial Start as that allows for some room/margin ....
Tho' I did stop very quickly after getting very decent 1k or 2k payouts (EDIT : NOT last week but 1st 2 weeks of March !!) as then only lost $100s from the winnings from staying longer instead of LOSING ALL as in most other days when Winnings were only in the BELOW 1k Category
And of course on certain BAD Days when lose all capital fast IF my urge to play is strong then I'll do the forbidden ATM WDs sighzzzzz .....
- MUST WORK more on STOP LOSS TARGETS (right now don't seem to have any as such) - guess $500 is a Good Target but means VERY SHORT STAY only !!!!

Hmmm ..... now only ouch ouch ouch .... very painful losses :mad::(:eek::rolleyes:

RIGHT - am already for my Mon 28/3/11 PM Casino Slot Fix hahaha

Kia0042
28-03-2011, 02:45 AM
Imperial Treasure can use P.D.? I called and they said can't.

Can, Paiza's P.D. only. ;)
The Dim Sum and Pekin Duck are good, you should try. :p

Additional:
If you love wine like me, you may want to check out their wine list, they have a great collection. My next redemption should be a bottle of Château Pétrus (lower grade one which is abt P.D. $7-10K :p
)

silverfox@
28-03-2011, 04:38 AM
Can, Paiza's P.D. only. ;)
The Dim Sum and Pekin Duck are good, you should try. :p

Additional:
If you love wine like me, you may want to check out their wine list, they have a great collection. My next redemption should be a bottle of Château Pétrus (lower grade one which is abt P.D. $7-10K :p
)

I see. I was still thinking thousands of P.D. how to finish up. :D Imperial Fine treasures been there a couple of times, paid by cash. Peking duck is nice, ribs also good. Dim sum so far never try because always go for main meals. Book hotel room also sian. So might as well bring family go and try out the restaurants.

Weekends in MBS harder to win. Sunday is sure lose for me. Weekdays better.

Kia0042
28-03-2011, 08:37 AM
If you have too much P.D., you may consider to book for a suite. Orchids suite is the cheapest among all suite rooms, remember to ask for the Biggest Orchids Suite (in terms of area);) coz there are 3 different design/layout. Same price, so why not get a bigger one.

jjcc888
28-03-2011, 08:43 PM
Alright - I've FINALLY played my 1st 'Table' Game at MBS
(had a 'kaki' beside me as such)
Put $50 into RAPID BACCARAT & cashed out $120
- playing mainly only $10s & Banker with a couple of $20s - won a Tie too :D
BUT I find it NOT as exciting/fun as slots - kinda 'boring/slow' sighzzzzzz :confused:
No doubt the losses will be slower since pace is much slower - but so 'boring' lah !!! The UPs and DOWNS kept hovering largely around my initial $50

On Members' Benefits, discovered that these are really SHRINKING somehow !!!
Besides No More Free/Offer-Rate Rooms, even the Skypark Complimentary Passes (for Diamond & above) have shrunk/been reduced ??? .....
The Premier Advantage Marketing gal had CLEARLY categorically told me in Feb that each Diamond Card Member is entitled to bring 2 guests up the Skypark daily with 2 claimable complimentary tickets each & if more are needed they can be purchased with PD at 20% discount (ie. at $16)
I'd double-checked at the PA Counter at B1 this Mon afternoon too before going down to the T3 Skypark Basement area
BUT the SkyPark Counter guy said ONLY ONE (and not 2) Complimentary ticket (whether for member or for his/her guest) [even for Paizza Members] per day
So ended up instead of me bringing the 2 secretaries up for free, I had to buy 2 discounted tickets using PDs (since there were 3 of us)
When we had the Free/Offer-Rate Rooms, no such hassle as we could simply bring our guests up using our Room Key etc

Hmmm Kia
How much PD do you need to pay for the Orchid Suite now ?
Which Suite Number(s) for reference for the LARGEST Size ?
I remember doing 2 upgrades on the Basic Offer $129++ Room to $169++ or something and I was given a free upgrade to an Orchid Suite (at end of corridor where if you don't pull down the shades, you can be seen at the bath ... could see BOTH city view & construction site view)
I don't mind paying with PDs for the suite since it's just around the $200+ region with all the plus plus (but not something like double or triple that)

BTW - have used up my $100 Gift Vouchers today
Bought 3 packs of Belgian Dark Chocs from the Gift Shop + a magnet
Reminds me of my Feb Europe Trip - had a steal of an offer where I only paid 10 EURO for 90 yummy choc truffles (in 6 boxes x 15) from a specialty shoppe in Brussels
Regretted not having bought more - as I couldn't find such offer prices elsewhere !

On my Mon play :
- since the 2 secs. wanted Non-Smoking, I played the 1st hour at the L1 slots and lost especially at the Fafafa slots
- luckily I was able to recover my losses and even made a tiny profit at the B1 10cts Shen Long slots during the 2nd hour before meeting up for the Skypark Visit
- As usual later on I lost a large part of my capital .... :o:mad: ... notwithstanding the 'supposedly auspicious day' etc

Better rest for Tues - do my Spa treatment
Can still do RWS on Wed or Thurs (tho' not auspicious days etc ?) :cool:

Kia0042
29-03-2011, 08:20 AM
Went MBS last night, heard that the food voucher promo is still on (extend till april), that means I can redeem another 2k food voucher in April?
I still have a balance of $500 food voucher which expire this Thurs.

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29-03-2011, 04:51 PM
Last nite a lucky nite. Hit major at cash train 2 cent. Balance was left 875 credits. Though was going home a loser again. Then suddenly a train coming, 5 trains at 49 pts :) couldn't believe my eyes :p mind was thinking win back my initial balance of $300 is ok liao. Didn't know it hit higher.
Happy, as never hits such thing before. Through out still lose alot, though. Bro and sis please take care. Last 2 days manage to control winning and go home. 1-2 hours is all my mind working right, once over that time limit, confirm ki siao and lose money.

jjcc888
29-03-2011, 07:54 PM
Now considering NOT to go RWS Sun tomorrow (parent making LOTS of noise lah !) for 2nd visit in March (???) -
already spent over-budget with the losses
Let's see how I feel after next Mon's MBS trip - still got another 3 days till the 31st March for RWS !
CURRENT RWS SLOTS PROMO - if lucky get $200 from playing at that 'lucky' seat that day
BUT find RWS really cheapskate here as only about 18 x $200 DAILY given out
ONLY EIGHTEEN Per DAY for the whole of RWS Slots - REALLY STINGY !!!! %4####&7##@@


I cancelled my Spa appointment for Tues evening after reading my Cosmic Calendar email [horoscope etc - seems things should be much better/supportive today compared to last few days due to the alignment of the planets/stars ....] and instead went over to RWS to complete my minimum 2nd visit for the month (for the Blossom Benefits)
Hmmm .... notice that the carpets have been changed ...... still some dank dampy smell but so much better than previously

Update on RWS Slot Promo :
seems like they now conduct THREE SESSIONS per day where 8 slot-playing winners are picked to get $200 Slot Voucher per session .... lots of fanfare & noise then .... managed to get an available 5Koi slot quite fast at Island Delight after playing for short while the Ocean Pearl slot at same row with the Noisy Slot Draws going on there .... then moved over to the Fortune King slot where I had lots of UPs and DOWNs but eventually printed out over $1.1k+ ticket (PHEW ..... mini profits there)

Then after cashing out the ticket, went to Smoking CashTrain Area
Played my fav Fortune King and Kia's standalone 5cts 5Koi
More or less at Break Even levels - printed out slight profit at $200+ ticket

Then played 2 of the Firecracker/Silver & Gold slots
Made around $600 profits

So Tues 29/3/11 - a GOOD DAY at RWS
Played much more than the required minimum 25 points
Left after 2 am - got some dimsum exchanged from my RWS GPs for my supper & breakfast - haven't had any dinner yet as was anxious to secure a seat at Island Delight asap on arriving after 6.30 pm !!!

jjcc888
29-03-2011, 07:58 PM
Went MBS last night, heard that the food voucher promo is still on (extend till april), that means I can redeem another 2k food voucher in April?
I still have a balance of $500 food voucher which expire this Thurs.

This food voucher promo must be only for Paiza Members as have not received any email/flyer on such at all - lucky you !

Pls reply on the Orchid Suite queries - thanks in advance !

jjcc888
29-03-2011, 08:14 PM
Last nite a lucky nite. Hit major at cash train 2 cent. Balance was left 875 credits. Though was going home a loser again. Then suddenly a train coming, 5 trains at 49 pts :) couldn't believe my eyes :p mind was thinking win back my initial balance of $300 is ok liao. Didn't know it hit higher.
Happy, as never hits such thing before. Through out still lose alot, though. Bro and sis please take care. Last 2 days manage to control winning and go home. 1-2 hours is all my mind working right, once over that time limit, confirm ki siao and lose money.

Tonight Tues at RWS CashTrain Smoking Section
Lady behind me (I was playing that 5 cts 5KOI slot) got over 5k as 2nd JP
She was so excited as she too hasn't got such before

This CashTrain JPs are really another BIG Hurdle
- so hard to get the train to drop
- harder to stop trains at the 'middle section' such that you get from 8 - 9 - 10 -11 in order to make the Higher JPs !!!!! My HIGHEST so far is only 37 -38 for a MINOR JP !!!

Then the Fafafa JPs seems to be pre-programmed as always only getting Mini Pandas and rarely the Minor JPs

Seems like it's only the RWS Island Delight slots which do not need conquering further hurdles
Just need to be at Right-Timing machine for the JP to drop on us

Kia0042
30-03-2011, 01:47 AM
Congratulations !! CoffeeMe, you did it! finally. :D I am very happy for you.
I was there last night, aiming for that $10k+ 2nd major too and I didn't know it was you who won it. Which machine paid out the major, was it 5dragon? the one back facing the 1ct Butterfly?

CoffeeMe
30-03-2011, 03:49 AM
Thanks bro Kia. Err, it's 5.8k only ley. I won it on 29/3/2011 ard 11pm plus. Yes, it is 5 dragon, but not sure wjich location u mean. It is at middle lane, the three 5 dragon machines, third from left.

medoil
30-03-2011, 02:24 PM
Was at RWS 26 Mar Sat. Personally witnessed one young Ah Tiong struck 84K JP at ar. 5pm+ at CashTrain (smoking section). He was playing 5 dragons machine betting only 50 coins.

medoil
30-03-2011, 02:47 PM
Thanks bro Kia. Err, it's 5.8k only ley. I won it on 29/3/2011 ard 11pm plus. Yes, it is 5 dragon, but not sure wjich location u mean. It is at middle lane, the three 5 dragon machines, third from left.

On Sat 26Mar at 5pm+ saw one young China man won top JP 84K at RWS CAshTrain smoking section. He was playing 5 dragon machine betting 50 coins 5c . The machine was along the walk aisle.

CoffeeMe
31-03-2011, 04:24 AM
Nice 84k. Will faint on the spot if won that :p
Last nite was good enough to win back. Initial hour already won $400+ then lose back $1200 on several hours of playing. Itchy hand withdraw a hundred as a closing game, the luck turn out good. 100 grow to 300, 300 grow to 760. Play small and carefully, won back capital + winning 250. Go home with back ache due to stay 5 hours.
N.b to master Kia: it is true that good mood bring good game :)

jjcc888
31-03-2011, 05:24 AM
Went MBS last night, heard that the food voucher promo is still on (extend till april), that means I can redeem another 2k food voucher in April?
I still have a balance of $500 food voucher which expire this Thurs.

Yesterday received email that Bonus Offer Weekly Gift Certificate Promo ($15, $40, $100, $250 & $500) extended to April

Is that the one you're referring to ?
Food + Gift Shop Non-Food Items

Kia0042
01-04-2011, 06:49 AM
Finally spent all my balance food voucher with my family members last evening. After 3 consecutive weekend at RISE, we decided to try out some Italian food. Walkin Mozza Pizzeria, look at the menu, understand nothing. Call waiter to recommend, ended up we eat only Pizzas. Luckily the pizzas taste good, the rest of the side dishes like the salad, mussel, sotong and chicken wings were terrible. :(

I've fulfilled 500pts this week, so I am getting $500 voucher tonight for promo month of April, I wonder if they are the same as March promo, lets see how, I am going MBS tonight. :)

CoffeeMe
01-04-2011, 08:28 AM
Try the fried potato at pizzaria, nice :) is there any vegetarian food at mbs that can be redeem using pd/voucher? Auntie is coming and she's vegetarian. Don't want to dissapoint her already so far from Canada to Singapore casino, yet no vegetarian :p any recommendation ?

jjcc888
01-04-2011, 07:55 PM
So far this week :
1. Mon - at MBS (lost several hundreds)
2. Tues - at RWS (very rare good session :D)
3. Thurs - at RWS - lousy as only losses at the end after a nice winning start as per usual pattern :(
4. Fri - at MBS (maybe should have left after recovering lost capital BUT urge to play too strong ?)
YES - half the time - when I feel 'good' with the stars etc supporting me etc I would tend to have a good time (ONLY thing is I don't want to STOP/RUN after my wins because I still want to play on [not so much greed etc for me] - especially if I have to pay midnite cab charges must make it worth my while etc)

Friday afternoon my fav CashTrain Fortune King was unoccupied/free - BUT it took me at least some $500 to warm it up before it behaved itself and started giving good returns (had once good 4 Free Games with 3 re-triggers & managed to recoup earlier losses just from that round)
! stopped after 8pm when losses/diminishing returns stayed - machine no longer paying out .... (that was when my neighbour's slot seemed to be getting better tho')
Had several times the train BUT only very miserable Mini JPs of <$20 :( :rolleyes: (Didn't give me 10s & 11s for a Minor JP, only 8s and 9s)

On my right at extreme corner slot was this lady who had won the 1st JP of 50k recently at same slot - she said her slot was playing very badly today and she had to go to the ATM to replenish her capital - was losing more than 1.5k earlier
She kept getting Nines while my slot was quite good giving me Full 5 Fishes many times etc before it turned 'stale'

After dinner, played briefly one 10ct Shen Long slot, initially had my $50 note grown to $200+ but finally dwindled down to ZERO with continual play

Then moved over to the Silver&Roses slots - NO good this Fri night
No chance at Kia's standalone 5Koi slot as was occupied
Remainder of the night focussed on the 4 CLASSIC WINNERS slots
Final Tally : lost all balance RWS preserved capital + part of fresh ATM capital

Claimed my $100 Voucher for this week's points
Luckily this time - validity till 31st MAY ! :) :D
Yes KIA - SAME Vouchers
Read about Mozza Pizzas from several food blogs
Sounds nice BUT very fattening burrata cheese etc - I'll like to try this but hope my sensitive tummy will behave itself !
Can remember the bigger area Orchid Suite room numbers ?
Are they all facing the nicer city view ?
How much PDs were used to redeem these now ?

COFFEEME : Congrats on your JP !!!
At B1 Tong Dim, for vegetarian
can take vegetable dishes & loh hon chye on menu
Hmmm ... any Indian restaurant there - some items ahould be vegetarian

BTW tonight - Slot behind the 1st 5Dragon on same row
- the FortuneFoo etc end slot got the 2nd JP

silverfox@
01-04-2011, 08:46 PM
Finally spent all my balance food voucher with my family members last evening. After 3 consecutive weekend at RISE, we decided to try out some Italian food. Walkin Mozza Pizzeria, look at the menu, understand nothing. Call waiter to recommend, ended up we eat only Pizzas. Luckily the pizzas taste good, the rest of the side dishes like the salad, mussel, sotong and chicken wings were terrible. :(

I've fulfilled 500pts this week, so I am getting $500 voucher tonight for promo month of April, I wonder if they are the same as March promo, lets see how, I am going MBS tonight. :)

Lucky you went Pizzeria. If you step into Osteria at next side, you will really understand nothing. Ask the captain to introduce from appetizer to main course. If eat from appetizer, plus burrata mozarella plus main course, I think cannot survive. I had a hard time digesting the mozarella cheese, when it comes to main course, really blur. And you see a majority of the tables had problem ordering the food. Even saw ang moh sit down beside my table, and they will commenting too that they don't understand the menu. They asked me how's the food, I said ok lah. They think think awhile, then apologised to captain and walk out without ordering. At least I walk past Pizzeria saw people order pizza. Osteria is really different culture for many of us.

Kia0042
02-04-2011, 02:25 AM
Redeemed my $500 food voucher last night, yes, they are the same as the previous month promo. With extended validity date so I decided to accumulate the voucher and spend all at Sky on 57. Anyone tried the restaurant at 57th ?

Regarding the Orchids Suite, you can have both cityview and seaview!! See images below:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/kia0047/sandorchidsuite.jpg

I remember I stayed at this room in Aug 10, forgotten the room number ( i hope I am to recall too coz i like the room very much). Even the hotel recep were unable to retrieve my stay record!! I was given 2nights comp stay at standard room that time, I upgraded it to Orchids suite and topup P.D. 1000-1100.

jjcc888
02-04-2011, 06:38 AM
Kia thanks - the only Orchid Suite I stayed in had views of BOTH the City (partial from 1 wall/end) and Garden (full wall/balcony). The towels/sinks are found on the right side of the bath tub instead of the left side as in your photo. Must go and retrieve my hotel receipts so can then remember from the dates. I only paid like PD200+ ALL-IN with 2x $20-30 room upgrades from the Offer-Rate $129++ (with one complimentary upgrade for Diamond Members) in Nov or Dec. If not wrong, that could have been T1 Room 775 (extreme end room) ??

Kia - do you need to pay more than PD1100 for your recent Orchid Suite rooms from last Dec to this April ?
Wish they would bring back their Offer-Rate $129 rooms for us :)
Really miss my 2 nites per month such stays :p

Now I REALLY LOVE the high city-view room I got on the night of my company's D&D at MBS in early Jan 2011- that should be T1 Room 3375 (I think I paid only 1 upgrade there) - should be a Horizon Premier or Grand Room with the separate shower/wc and central-position bath-tub

The very last offer-rate room I'd stayed in at end-Jan before the CNY was T2 Room 1352 - no paid upgrades. Probably just basic Advantage Premier or Premier Grand ? After the plusses from $129 ++----> Paid PD151.83

Can confirm after finding my other hotel receipts and Key Folders - I know I didn't throw these away, so should be somewhere

RWS SMS - now also giving up to $100 Gift Vouchers daily on top of bonus 15% GP Points till end-April
I haven't been redeeming my Mon-Thurs Lucky Wheel Spins as don't like getting the Table Game $10 vouchers (which is the usual instead of the Free Hotel Room ones) and to leave my hard-to-get slot for that

Kia0042
02-04-2011, 07:19 AM
That was a good deal you received from MBS for your Orchids suite.
So far I've stayed at Orchids suite once, coz my last 2 booking for Orchids suite ended up in other suite room. I wasn't satify with the Orchids suite they arranged for my last 2 trips, so I ended up in Marina Suite in Dec, Sands Suite in Feb. I wanted to book Orchids suite for my coming stay and again, they are unable to arrange, so I booked a Bay Suite which have 2 bedrooms. I used PD2000 for my Marina Suite (1night), PD3500 for Sands Suite (2nights), and coming stay PD4000 for Bay suite (2nights).

I've received the message from RWS too. Voucher again, why can't they just give CASH? Sigh...

jjcc888
02-04-2011, 07:57 AM
Double Post

jjcc888
02-04-2011, 08:07 AM
That was a good deal you received from MBS for your Orchids suite.
So far I've stayed at Orchids suite once, coz my last 2 booking for Orchids suite ended up in other suite room. I wasn't satify with the Orchids suite they arranged for my last 2 trips, so I ended up in Marina Suite in Dec, Sands Suite in Feb. I wanted to book Orchids suite for my coming stay and again, they are unable to arrange, so I booked a Bay Suite which have 2 bedrooms. I used PD2000 for my Marina Suite (1night), PD3500 for Sands Suite (2nights), and coming stay PD4000 for Bay suite (2nights).

I've received the message from RWS too. Voucher again, why can't they just give CASH? Sigh...

Ya - hope MBS will bring back their $129 offer-rate rooms soon (since can forget about totally free rooms now ?) as that will be 'affordable to us low-rollers who DON'T have such many thousands of PDs' :p

The only 'advantage' of using full PD to pay for almost-normal/normal room rates is that we CAN now book CONSECUTIVE 2 or more nights (as that was NOT allowed after I managed to do so only once under the offer-rate in Oct - they insist on a 3-day interval between the 1st half and 2nd half of each month for the 2 nites per month given during Nov to Jan 2011 ... aiyoh)
If I book normal-rate rooms using my PDs, my PDs will be gone in a flash ! :(:mad::o

From MBS website, Orchid Suite is $889
with plus plus guess it's in PD $1000-1100 region

Will ALSO love to try their $589 CLUB ROOMs (or PD 678-690 region ?)

jjcc888
02-04-2011, 10:06 AM
BTW KIA
Can you pls share with us the workable links for ARISTOCRAT Games online - as in 1st few pages here of this thread ?
For the 5Koi, FortuneKing, 5Dragon etc games

If too broke, can at least play ONLINE if no funds to go casinos :o :p

CoffeeMe
03-04-2011, 02:14 AM
Went to mbs last nite. Crowded as usual. And finally saw "live" someone won grand jp at cashtrain 2cent :)
Somehow has this sure win feeling, decided to bring only $300 as last 2 nights lost 2k. Kinda true, play 150 credits at fafafa B1, on the feature 13x hit 5 qilin and 5 fish at same feature. $50 became $1400. Not bad. Move to another machine at cash train. Every $50 makes another $50, make it a total win of $2,9k. Now, decided to set lost limit at win $2.5k and win target 3.5k though it's not even 2hrs. Well, at the end go home with 2.5k win :) been a fun night.
I think the capital that we bring is quite a crontrol in our mental playing. Like 2 nights ago bring 1.2k, although already lost $700 still dun feel the pinch,funny. Until lost it all. Maybe because we bring a bigger sum of $ then even when we won several hundreds we dun feel shiok? As for me, when i brought a big sum of $, somehow can feel will lost it all.:( and then i realised, actually had been winning but never keep dicipline of 2 hrs stay. And once got the fatique of tired/sleepiness, thats the time to take a break.
Well, overall won few hundred, can go shopping for some new clothes :) has not yet enjoy the jp $.
Bro and sis, please take care. Easy comes, easy goes. But keep the good mood high :)

Kia0042
03-04-2011, 04:42 AM
BTW KIA
Can you pls share with us the workable links for ARISTOCRAT Games online - as in 1st few pages here of this thread ?
For the 5Koi, FortuneKing, 5Dragon etc games

If too broke, can at least play ONLINE if no funds to go casinos :o :p

Online games for 5koi, Fortune King and 5Dragons are not available, only the following games available at the moment:

LUCKY 88 (http://loadgames.bet365.com/GameFramework/play.jsp?game=LUCKY88&language=ENG&MODE=FUN)

WHERE'S THE GOLD (http://loadgames.bet365.com/GameFramework/play.jsp?game=WHERESTHEGOLD&language=ENG&MODE=FUN)

ZORRO (http://loadgames.bet365.com/GameFramework/play.jsp?game=ZORRO&language=ENG&MODE=FUN)

QUEEN OF THE NILE 2 (http://loadgames.bet365.com/GameFramework/play.jsp?game=QUEENOFTHENILE2&language=ENG&MODE=FUN)

If the link doesn't work, pls refer to slotmachineforum (http://www.slotmachinesforum.com/showthread.php?10581-Aristocrat-Online-slots).

Kia0042
03-04-2011, 04:48 AM
Went to mbs last nite. Crowded as usual. And finally saw "live" someone won grand jp at cashtrain 2cent :)
Somehow has this sure win feeling, decided to bring only $300 as last 2 nights lost 2k. Kinda true, play 150 credits at fafafa B1, on the feature 13x hit 5 qilin and 5 fish at same feature. $50 became $1400. Not bad. Move to another machine at cash train. Every $50 makes another $50, make it a total win of $2,9k. Now, decided to set lost limit at win $2.5k and win target 3.5k though it's not even 2hrs. Well, at the end go home with 2.5k win :) been a fun night.
I think the capital that we bring is quite a crontrol in our mental playing. Like 2 nights ago bring 1.2k, although already lost $700 still dun feel the pinch,funny. Until lost it all. Maybe because we bring a bigger sum of $ then even when we won several hundreds we dun feel shiok? As for me, when i brought a big sum of $, somehow can feel will lost it all.:( and then i realised, actually had been winning but never keep dicipline of 2 hrs stay. And once got the fatique of tired/sleepiness, thats the time to take a break.
Well, overall won few hundred, can go shopping for some new clothes :) has not yet enjoy the jp $.
Bro and sis, please take care. Easy comes, easy goes. But keep the good mood high :)

Congratulations to you again coffeeme, Way to Go !!
I was there till 3AM this morning, I didn't notice the CashExpress Grand Jackpot 62k has been won?
But I was lucky enough to win JP2 around 11PM. :p 11k
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/kia0047/2apr11.jpg

jjcc888
03-04-2011, 06:25 AM
Wow - congrats to Kia & Coffeeme !
I took a break on Sat - so missed out there (got lectured for staying out late so many times this week ! :p :o :rolleyes:)

But later Sun I'll be at MBS - hope I have Good Luck tho' the stars say : :o :confused:
"To have the New Moon, Moon-Jupiter union, Mars-Uranus union and Sun-Saturn opposition all happening within a 10-hour time-span is to really test the mettle of every soul now incarnate on Spaceship Earth. If you think there is any let-up tomorrow, think again. Neptune is about to enter Pisces while more Mars-Uranus explosions rock humanity. Count your blessings and accept the status-quo if necessary rather than be a foolish risk-taker throwing caution to the wind."
Ermm - I'm a VERY stubborn high-risk taker tho' :D :p ;)


At the beginning I had this 2-tier capital control
eg $800 + 1st tier 1k (+ 2nd tier $500-800)
Then decided to make it simpler later with simply $2500 or $1800 etc
(depending on whether I'll be doing any forbidden ATM WDs too)
Now with depleting balances, sometimes only $1.5k or below 1k capital too
Tho' might again increase that to $2k region with further ATM WDs !
Now I have to make my Playing Funds last longer as much as possible .....
Will need to withdraw fresh funds for this week's fresh battle later :cool:

Hmmm this April month - seems from 1 forecast quite a few Days of Caution advised - will need to check the days against another Cosmic Calendar etc as this has served me well as on last Tues's Winning Day at RWS (when I cancelled scheduled Spa appointment to play on the "Changed Stars day" then)

But suddenly RAINING now as typing this
DON'T like going out in the rain .... sighzzzzz

Heh - rain stopped
so only a short shower - I LIKE !!!! :D:)


EDIT : ADDED ON

Hmmmm .....looks like the HOT WINNING slots at the CASH TRAIN are the 5 Dragons recently
so that means I should switchover from FORTUNE KING to 5 DRAGONS instead ????

CoffeeMe
03-04-2011, 06:33 PM
Sunday went to mbs and lost again..sigh. With initial $300, withdraw $500, again $500, again $700. And lost $2k in total. Could be wrong mood and playing pattern? Maybe hit to big credits such as 150-300? thought can win again :p But too bad, there's no such thing as consistent winning :(
Time was 6:10pm when received a call from lion king draw:) well, didn't know there will be a cash prize. Then the lady said that minimum prize is 1k. Phew... Lucky! Faster claim prize, then try somemore luck for $200. Lost again :( no mood play liao.
Total experience: lost 2.2k but win prize 1k, PD earned 68, had a bottle of heineken, claim a box of meiji chocolate.
I think to bring ATM card is really a bad habit. No matter how i control, still will withdraw after lost.
Remember what Silverfox used to say, if that day going to win, even $200-$300 also can win.
So far, winning $2.7k with $300 capital in a day is my biggest win, play with stop lost and win target once hit a machine. Hmmm... Happy can liao :)

jjcc888
03-04-2011, 08:39 PM
Sunday went to mbs and lost again..sigh. With initial $300, withdraw $500, again $500, again $700. And lost $2k in total. Could be wrong mood and playing pattern? Maybe hit to big credits such as 150-300? thought can win again :p But too bad, there's no such thing as consistent winning :(
Time was 6:10pm when received a call from lion king draw:) well, didn't know there will be a cash prize. Then the lady said that minimum prize is 1k. Phew... Lucky! Faster claim prize, then try somemore luck for $200. Lost again :( no mood play liao.
Total experience: lost 2.2k but win prize 1k, PD earned 68, had a bottle of heineken, claim a box of meiji chocolate.
I think to bring ATM card is really a bad habit. No matter how i control, still will withdraw after lost.
Remember what Silverfox used to say, if that day going to win, even $200-$300 also can win.
So far, winning $2.7k with $300 capital in a day is my biggest win, play with stop lost and win target once hit a machine. Hmmm... Happy can liao :)

I guess you'd already left MBS before B1 started to 'rain heavily' due to a burst pipe in false ceiling just after mid-nite - just at the central slot area between the 2cts Fafafa and CashTrain Express slots :eek: :cool:
Oh boy - some 'heavy avalanche of rain pouring down causing mini-flood of the carpet'
- it was a real sight - caught it all as I was at the end ChoySunYen slot at Fafafa from this late Sun afternoon

When I reached MBS just before 5pm, noticed that the Grand JP was 100k for Fafafa, so decided to focus on that and stayed glued there literally for 7+ hours ! :p
Got LOTS of Mini JP Pandas and 2 Minor JPs of over $100 each
We were all forced to stop play after 12.30 am as the staff were concerned that the puddle of water would reach our area and pose danger (water+electricity = electrocution)
So I went off to have my very-late dinner cum supper
Had I left for home after that I would have retained some $200+ profits

BUT as usual I wanted to play some more & longer (make my midnite charges more worth) :):o
Played ShenLong =LOST, then my fav Diamonds&Roses and Classic Winners = Break Even levels, Kia's standalone 5Koi last-minute Doubled my $50 note .....

I had this GOOD FEEL when I started out
At the end ENJOYED myself here as managed to stay at BREAK EVEN LEVELS tonight !!!! :D :)
I'm HAPPY when there are no big losses !
Earned around 64 points tonight ----> PD$128 ?

Had my card swiped before 5pm
But as usual my name DIDN'T get called for the Lion King Draws :rolleyes: :mad:
AT least you're lucky in such draws - congrats !

Somehow for me I CAN'T start off with such low capital of $300
Because one slot can easily eat up $150-200 (usually $400-500 for fav slots) before I give up on it and try the next slot/game etc
I'll say VERY MINIMAL for me is at least $500-800 for any meaning/kick
Well it's not a done thing to bring ATM Card BUT on at least 2 occasions I managed to recover my losses with the fresh withdrawn capital etc .....

THis afternoon I withdrew $2k
intending to only use not more than 1k for Sun and to keep the other 1k for another day this week (ie if my resolve is kept - as sometimes may also finish up the 2nd 1k)
I have HALVED my daily playing capital from 2k region to 1k levels nowadays

Hmmm .... should I go MBS on Mon to continue 'trying for' that 100k Fafafa Grand JP ???
Must read the email on what my stars say bc NOT a stated 'auspicious gambling day as such'

Kia0042
04-04-2011, 02:26 AM
I was at MBS last evening from 6pm. Started my game from Fafafa 5dragons. No other better choice but to stick to the same machine and lost about 1k. Imagine 1k 150credits play without a single free spin!
Proceeded to cashexpress, tried Fortune King, hit the free spin within $100 but the payout was bad, less than 5000credits. Continue playing and the free spin never happen again, another $800 gone.
Proceeded to 10cts Fafafa, pick a 5dragons machine. Inserted in my last $500 and play 60credits. The free spins almost took place every 30-50spins, but the payout was miserable, only 500-1500credits each time. A no gain no lose game.
Went back to Cashexpress again, pick a 5dragans at the inner row, played about $300 to get it's first free spin, total payout less than 10,000credits. The man sitting beside me playing 250credits 5dragons kept coming 5fishes (outside free spin) while my 5dragons gave me nonthing. The man left with his winning. I decided to swap to his machine. Guess what, my first spin brought me the cashtrain feature and stopped with 4trains, yes, and I won the JP2 again!! 6.4k :p

CoffeeMe
04-04-2011, 02:53 AM
Thanks Jjcc888, yup lucky won that 1k back.
Well, i actually went to mbs at 1am just out of curiousity thinking my luck is not that worse ba :)
Yup, saw the area fafafa and cashtrain was closed. Due to cleaning. Then, play those at entrance. Try the 100 free games, won $25 with $10 capital. Try the fruit progressive game, manage to grow $50 to $120. Try the fish koi $50 grow to $250. Then try again the other fish koi at end row, lost $50. Not bad, manage to won$200 with $300 capital. Go home as it was already 2am.
Wondering home too near to city is it curse or bless??? Only 20minutes travelling can reach the mbs.

CoffeeMe
04-04-2011, 03:04 AM
Wow Kia, congrats!!!
Good, thats how it suppose to be, at least it pays back no matter who the winner is. Same to my previous jp winning, only few spin and it hit. Wah, don't tell me it's the same machine? :)

Kia0042
04-04-2011, 04:52 AM
Wow Kia, congrats!!!
Good, thats how it suppose to be, at least it pays back no matter who the winner is. Same to my previous jp winning, only few spin and it hit. Wah, don't tell me it's the same machine? :)

The 5dragons machine that I hit JP2 last evening was a MUTE machine. 4 machines in a row, two 5dragons and two Fortune King in line, back are Player's Choice (4 in 1 ), front also Player's choice machine.
On Sat, I won the JP2 from 5dragons too, 3 in a row, back to back with Atronic Stargate Jack O´Neil.

So far I won 4x JP2 from 5dragons and 1x on Player's choice machine Fortune Foo. And all of them - Corner machines. ;)

Don't Bring ATM cards to Casinos.

jjcc888
04-04-2011, 05:50 AM
The 5dragons machine that I hit JP2 last evening was a MUTE machine. 4 machines in a row, two 5dragons and two Fortune King in line, back are Player's Choice (4 in 1 ), front also Player's choice machine.
On Sat, I won the JP2 from 5dragons too, 3 in a row, back to back with Atronic Stargate Jack O´Neil.

So far I won 4x JP2 from 5dragons and 1x on Player's choice machine Fortune Foo. And all of them - Corner machines. ;)

Don't Bring ATM cards to Casinos.

You KIA really have JP LUCK !!!!! :D
ESPECIALLY with Last-Minute Recoveries !!!!
And CoffeeMe too - not bad too

Alamak - I've been playing for so many months and yet to hit any 2nd +upwards JP ..... sighzzzz :confused: :(
Mine really kachang-puteh SMALL WINS (not even enough to cover losses etc)

MUST play MORE 5 Dragon from now onwards !!!! :) :p
And must be the corner machines in the Middle Section or with that Atronic slot

cheesey
04-04-2011, 10:52 AM
You KIA really have JP LUCK !!!!! :D
ESPECIALLY with Last-Minute Recoveries !!!!
And CoffeeMe too - not bad too

Alamak - I've been playing for so many months and yet to hit any 2nd +upwards JP ..... sighzzzz :confused: :(
Mine really kachang-puteh SMALL WINS (not even enough to cover losses etc)

MUST play MORE 5 Dragon from now onwards !!!! :) :p
And must be the corner machines in the Middle Section or with that Atronic slot

Sorry, i just can't stop laughing at this "MUST play MORE 5 Dragon from now onwards !!!!
And must be the corner machines in the Middle Section or with that Atronic slot "

Good luck JJCC..

jjcc888
04-04-2011, 05:25 PM
Sorry, i just can't stop laughing at this "MUST play MORE 5 Dragon from now onwards !!!!
And must be the corner machines in the Middle Section or with that Atronic slot "

Good luck JJCC..

Well - I managed to locate the specific MUTE & Atronic 5 Dragon slots but only got to play the Mute One when it became available later on (the behind-Atronic one was occupied ALL the time this Monday night)

That Mute 5Dragon - as introductory welcome of sorts perhaps ;) :D
When playing 125 credits at 1st few spins, came with 5 Full Coin Feature to give 6250 credit win - I chose the red 15x free games and ended up with over 13k credits - or $275 from a $50 note !

Tonight I ALSO managed to stop 4 trains twice for the very very 1st time !!!!
I got 2 Minor JPs (one of over $100 at my fav CashTrain FortuneKing slot [the inner one behind the Butterfly slots] and the 2nd of over $200 at the Mute 5Dragon slot :) :D )
(Tho' I've won Minor JPs at Fafafa or with just 3 stopped trains before)

Ermm somehow I felt the train-stopping was kinda pre-programmed already
Kia - does the cashtrain express work along the same way as the pre-programmed Fafafa panda JPs - ie no matter what we'll just end up with whatever has been predestined there etc ????
So NO actual skill involved at stopping these trains etc ???

Managed to print out a consolidated ticket of about 1.2k (from the several mutiplied/grown win tickets tonight) BUT after my dinner with further play saw me retaining only about $600 of my original 1k Sun capital - payouts decreased and I also found myself not really focussing with more haphazard play - at Fafafa and Diamonds & Roses etc slots !
I suppose not-so-bad as only lost $400 and Not ALL the 1k :rolleyes:

I'm back to the old practice of PRINTING out tickets whenever a $50 has grown 2x etc .... slows the pace of losing all $ fast & enables easy 'book-keeping/management'
ALSO I personally feel that the machine gets 'renewed' when a fresh new note is fed in - to give fast initial payouts etc instead of becoming stale if we simply add on another note to the balance credits that remain there
I prefer instead to cash out or 'consolidate those balance credits' with another ticket and printing that out so that there's then ZERO credit balance before feeding in a new note
I've found that MANY times when a new note is fed in, 'better spins' seem to result from that - my imagination ???

Somehow as I found things weren't as enjoyable towards the end with decreasing payouts etc
Decided to have a rare EARLY night - left MBS just before 11.30 pm and managed to catch the Express Bus home from the Hotel-side Bus stop

OK Kia & Coffeeme etc
WHERE EXACTLY are the locations or slot numbers of the other machines where JPs have dropped easily/frequently/etc before for you or known to you for other lucky JP-winners ???
Any at Non-Smoking L1 etc .....
Does the 5ct CashTrain at L1 or other slots drop their JPs as frequently as the 2cts B1 CashTrain Express (practically Every day !)

Don't know why - but 5Dragons, 50Dragons & Lucky88 slots somehow to me are less 'interesting/fun' to me when compared with FortuneKing, ChoySunYe & 5Koi ......
So MIGHT find me losing interest fast in playing these :(

CoffeeMe
04-04-2011, 07:18 PM
Wah, lose less is not a target, win less should be the one ba :p what i learned from all this while playing slots, choy sun yee at cash train 2c B1 is better than those at fafafa. Coz it comes with additional 5 free games. Yes, 5dragon is sometime very lousy. Another thing if the machine start with little/tiny/small/few payment, for example 3Q,3K etc, probably it is a "hungry" machine, even features comes.
Sometimes, cross my mind whats the point of playing if keep losing.

CoffeeMe
04-04-2011, 07:49 PM
Monday nite, go to mbs too obsessed with the jp 100k. Then hit and hit 300credits. Phew, i can't take it. Too expensive for me:p logically, how much a machine have to eat first before it pays out? It is so proven that hit big doesn't mean win big. So far there's only once i win at 300credit. That one also bcoz of luck, the very last 325credits i hit 300 and won 11k credits.
But, 60credits win 5k-15k is quite frequent.
No more hitting that much, and 100k for me is just a dream lah..:p
Not sure about u guys, what i feel when losing, win 4k credits for 5fishes also feel like nothing.
Maybe should be back to my past habit, can win 200-300/night good enough. Also remember what silverfox used to say, dun stay too long, there's no short cut to be rich, if 1 week can win 300, 1 month 1200 liao. Good enough to buy extra stuff and help the needy :)
Seriously, 3 times brought 1k notes, all lost. The mental keep saying "go on, still got cash" until lose all, then think why so stupid, should have left after lost half.

jjcc888
05-04-2011, 01:58 AM
Sun night saw this tourist probably from HK (from the Cantonese expletives he was spewing when he missed :D :eek:) at the Fafafa ChoySunYe slot

He was simply playing 500 credits in order to get the JP Coins to appear (like every 2-3 spins) BUT he was ONLY gettingthe MINI Pandas !
Must be all 'pre-programmed/predestined' !!!

Kia0042
05-04-2011, 03:08 AM
Ermm somehow I felt the train-stopping was kinda pre-programmed already
Kia - does the cashtrain express work along the same way as the pre-programmed Fafafa panda JPs - ie no matter what we'll just end up with whatever has been predestined there etc ????
So NO actual skill involved at stopping these trains etc ???

OK Kia & Coffeeme etc
WHERE EXACTLY are the locations or slot numbers of the other machines where JPs have dropped easily/frequently/etc before for you or known to you for other lucky JP-winners ???
Any at Non-Smoking L1 etc .....
Does the 5ct CashTrain at L1 or other slots drop their JPs as frequently as the 2cts B1 CashTrain Express (practically Every day !)

(

The cashtrain express work exactly the same way as the pre-programmed Fafafa, if the machine want to payout the grand prize, no matter how fast or how slow you press the buttons, the 5 trains will stop with number above 10. If it doesn't want to give, even you stopped 5 trains, you only hit the minor ( i once kena 5 trains but it gave 8,8,8,8,9, hit minor JP $101 only, very malu).
You need no skill to stop the trains, it all about luck. The pre-programmed can be "seen", look out for this kind situtation next time, the train that you actually managed to stop on the center line somehow "FLASH and DISAPPEAR" ! ;)

I have no idea which machine released JP most frequent at Fafafa & CashExpress areas, really hard to tell.
Somehow, I personally feel that Fafafa machines are the MOST difficult games to play among all Asristocrat hyperlink. I think the reason is because of it's popularity, the casino has adjusted a lower payout percentage. All Fafafa hyperlink at MBS & RWS seems to "behave" the same, that's why I don't quite like Fafafa.;)

jjcc888
05-04-2011, 04:40 AM
Monday nite, go to mbs too obsessed with the jp 100k. Then hit and hit 300credits. Phew, i can't take it. Too expensive for me:p logically, how much a machine have to eat first before it pays out? It is so proven that hit big doesn't mean win big. So far there's only once i win at 300credit. That one also bcoz of luck, the very last 325credits i hit 300 and won 11k credits.
But, 60credits win 5k-15k is quite frequent.
No more hitting that much, and 100k for me is just a dream lah..:p
Not sure about u guys, what i feel when losing, win 4k credits for 5fishes also feel like nothing.
Maybe should be back to my past habit, can win 200-300/night good enough. Also remember what silverfox used to say, dun stay too long, there's no short cut to be rich, if 1 week can win 300, 1 month 1200 liao. Good enough to buy extra stuff and help the needy :)
Seriously, 3 times brought 1k notes, all lost. The mental keep saying "go on, still got cash" until lose all, then think why so stupid, should have left after lost half.

Ya - guess we should just play without so much 'dream' of hitting the Grand JP otherwise end up with more STRESS or Frustration instead ! :o

Stubborn me have ever wasted up to $500 whereabouts to "coax" a fav machine to start paying out before - tho' more logical to stop and switch slots of course :o

I have several times at the VERY LAST SPIN (down to zero credit balance) (or 2nd last spin) got very good high-paying Free Game feature which 'saved' me and allowed me to play on for the rest of the night etc :):cool:

I DON'T play 25-30 credits as a rule since there's NO Multiplier effect at all - game is just too slow & unexciting for me
At the very least must be 2x or 50/60 but my FAV is 125/150 [5x]
If feeling the pinch - then just play less lines (75 credits) where only the last column top & bottom are blocked out (BUT very sayang if FULL 5 As/fishes/etc appear on the Blocked-Out portions !!! %%%^^66%***)

My problem is sticking to my STOP LOSS LIMIT : nowadays I DO TRY to stop after losing several hundred dollars instead of losing ALL capital (plus any further forbidden ATM WDs) - since funds are low and must make capital last far longer now

WINNING LESS ie Stop early is more difficult as we tend to think since we're on a high or lucky roll, play on till it's exhausted itself etc :(

Dodomeki
05-04-2011, 10:48 PM
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jjcc888
06-04-2011, 02:25 AM
Last night went MBS after my Spa treatment (after 8pm)
Would term it the Night of Free Games at my fav CashTrain Fortune King slot - only played THAT slot the whole night (and very briefly its next neighbouring end corner slot) :D:D:D VERY ENJOYABLE with all the many Free Games etc THAT's the way nice slot play should be !!!!

I had several times FIVE Full Ingots feature : giving as much as initial >6k to 1k-2k credits before the Free Games
Also had one time where there was 3-4 re-triggers etc :)

However even with all the Free Games and 1-2 Minor JP and several Mini JPs, NO gains as only managed to stay finally at just below Break Even Levels !
It was UP then DOWN DOWN UP etc
My final consolidated printed tickets ranged from just below $600 to above $800 : went thru' many many many rounds of this
I told myself : I'm not stopping until I get a 1k ticket !!!
So persistent determined play indeed got me that $1,050 printed ticket ultimately (but at very late 4am timing !!!)

A very FUN but very late night here for me :D:o:p

Early morning saw this guy at last slot playing 600 credits
He got quite a few Mini/Minor JPs frequently
Play HIGH get FAST WINS (also sometimes no good payout)

Kia0042
06-04-2011, 03:00 AM
I was at MBS last evening and had a bad game time. Started my game as early as 5PM and 'pok" before 9PM. :(
Started from cashexpress 5dragons, 300 or more spins came the first free spin, payout less than 10,000 credits. Swaped to Fortune king, another 300 or more spins to get a feature spin, payout worst than 5dragons.
Went to Fafafa, pick a 5dragans machine and again it took me another 300-400 spins to get a feature and payout was just terrible, less than 5,000credits.
Went for my dinner and returned to Prosperity slot area for 5koi. Ended up no free spin at all and I've lost my counting, maybe spined more than 500times? My 3k just gone like that last evening. :(

CoffeeMe
06-04-2011, 04:06 AM
Yes, agree with JJCC. It's a hard way to earn an easy living :)
Same to me, was at mbs last nite. Start with some winning, then back to capital. Then lost :) yah, expected.
Lucky to bring less $$$.
Bro Kia, please take care. I think if u play 300credits with feature less than 5k credits, probably every few spins it comes with full range? Like As, Ks..etc? Sometimes i will "test" the machine after hitting it with 150credits consistent, by hit 5 lines or smaller. If, it show a payment, but it covered because not a full reel, thats the time to leave the machine. Somehow it tells "i pay u, now is my turn to eat" :)
Some machine are really tight one. Better not to stay too long for a machine. But the ultimate way still the "good mood feeling":)
Besides, saw 2 new couples that frequent mbs slots. Oh my, hope they dont donate together. Phew......

Kia0042
06-04-2011, 05:56 AM
Yes, agree with JJCC. It's a hard way to earn an easy living :)
Same to me, was at mbs last nite. Start with some winning, then back to capital. Then lost :) yah, expected.
Lucky to bring less $$$.
Bro Kia, please take care. I think if u play 300credits with feature less than 5k credits, probably every few spins it comes with full range? Like As, Ks..etc? Sometimes i will "test" the machine after hitting it with 150credits consistent, by hit 5 lines or smaller. If, it show a payment, but it covered because not a full reel, thats the time to leave the machine. Somehow it tells "i pay u, now is my turn to eat" :)
Some machine are really tight one. Better not to stay too long for a machine. But the ultimate way still the "good mood feeling":)
Besides, saw 2 new couples that frequent mbs slots. Oh my, hope they dont donate together. Phew......

Actually I play 150credits nowadays, increase to 300credits when the machine is in "super good timing".

jjcc888
06-04-2011, 09:21 AM
Sometimes i will "test" the machine after hitting it with 150credits consistent, by hit 5 lines or smaller. If, it show a payment, but it covered because not a full reel, thats the time to leave the machine. Somehow it tells "i pay u, now is my turn to eat" :)
Some machine are really tight one. Better not to stay too long for a machine. But the ultimate way still the "good mood feeling":)
Besides, saw 2 new couples that frequent mbs slots. Oh my, hope they dont donate together. Phew......

Huh - most times now I do that ON PURPOSE to 'save on some credits and yet get better multiplier effect' !
eg. Playing 75 credits on 150 but less reels/lines
The ONLY REGRET is if happen to hit ALL 5 As/Fishes/etc on the 'blocked out portions at last column' and thus MISS OUT on the much-higher payout possible :mad:

Sometimes we can 'feel' how a fav slot will behave somehow
eg. repeat of all-As 1-2 spins after the 1st such all-As etc
If lucky can Time a bigger credit for next spin to get the increased payout etc .....

I guess we'll know quite soon whether or not any particular slot is in a 'good paying-out/Free Game mood' or not
If not, time to Switch Out to another one
Trial & Error among the known 'better fav ones' I suppose for any particular day ???

Slotloser
06-04-2011, 10:27 AM
Hello Bro Kia / Sis JJcc88 / Bro BlackHole / Bro Coffeeme,

how are you guys?? I have been away to China for the past one month plus and just got back this morning.
Have been following up with all you guys threads...looks like payout from slots are still very bad!!
Bro Kia..saw your new thread started in Asianbookies forum...

Where is Bro Blackhole?? Have not seen him posting anything for quite awhile!!!

Emm....may plan to drop by MBS later.

Ya..by the way....Grow share coming along...many of us here will get few hundreds on 1st May'2011. I just got mine...S$700...not bad leh!!!

Good Luck and Cheers...!!!

cheesey
06-04-2011, 03:46 PM
Recently i had been playing this 2ct game "Miss Kitty" and find that it can last quite long with few hundred capital playing at 250 credit.

Like yesterday, i played at rws from 11pm to ard 5am, win ard 1k from Kitty but donate it back to 50dragon and 5koi than go back play kitty again and end the session with a $500 loss.

This Kitty bonus game, if activated, is usually quite generous, with a typical payout of between 10 to 20k credit with a 250credit bet.

I'm not saying this game sure win money but it does last long for me, so lose liao also more satisfied cos can play long period.

To me, 50dragon is the worst, eat money like drinking water follow by fortune king and then maybe 5koi.

jjcc888
06-04-2011, 06:04 PM
Tonight Wed is another BAD Losing Day for me at MBS
Lost over 1k
That fav FortuneKing slot didn't like me tonight as it gave poor payouts/free games etc when I was playing it tonight - but gave the lady playing next slot who'd shifted over [when I left slot briefly] beautiful free games etc and she printed out a ticket for over $800 from her spins - when I took over again lousy play for me until I lost over 1k !!!!

Started off at the behind-Atronic 5 Dragon but no good there too tonight
Mute 5Dragon slot was occupied

More secretaries are planning an MBS trip after work this Fri
I'll need to withdraw further fresh caoital for Fri PM's play
Of Sunday's 2k withdrawn, left with only few hundreds (less than 25%)
Tomorrow Thursday taking a casino-break as will be occupying 2 slots at the Spa - for facial & body

theblackhole
07-04-2011, 01:52 AM
Hello Bro Kia / Sis JJcc88 / Bro BlackHole / Bro Coffeeme,

how are you guys?? I have been away to China for the past one month plus and just got back this morning.
Have been following up with all you guys threads...looks like payout from slots are still very bad!!
Bro Kia..saw your new thread started in Asianbookies forum...

Where is Bro Blackhole?? Have not seen him posting anything for quite awhile!!!


Hi Bro Slot,

I'm okay.Thank you.Have been following the threads by JJcc and Kia. Seems to me the slots are not paying out.So I've stayed away from the casinos for some time.Losing too much already. Bro Kia is still okay. JJcc is still very cautious and I hope she remains cautious.Those slots are really sharks.So if your luck is down, better to stay out of the waters. I may venture into the water once I feel I've enough funds to afford the "inevitable" losses for such a hobby/past-time.

Wishing everyone good luck and HUAT!!!! Remember what Bro Silverfox's advice: Restraint,Discipline and No ATM. Hope Bro Golden Dragon is okay..also no news from him. Hope everyone is okay. Anyone here standing for the ERECTION?:):):)

theblackhole
07-04-2011, 01:53 AM
JJcc, wish you luck and hope you strike the Big JP!!! Take care okay...:-)

Kia0042
07-04-2011, 02:32 AM
Hello Bro Kia / Sis JJcc88 / Bro BlackHole / Bro Coffeeme,

how are you guys?? I have been away to China for the past one month plus and just got back this morning.
Have been following up with all you guys threads...looks like payout from slots are still very bad!!
Bro Kia..saw your new thread started in Asianbookies forum...

Where is Bro Blackhole?? Have not seen him posting anything for quite awhile!!!

Emm....may plan to drop by MBS later.

Ya..by the way....Grow share coming along...many of us here will get few hundreds on 1st May'2011. I just got mine...S$700...not bad leh!!!

Good Luck and Cheers...!!!

Noticed this asisbookie forum recently, hope to "recuit" more slot lovers and share our experiences.

jjcc888
07-04-2011, 02:57 AM
Noticed this asianbookie forum recently, hope to "recruit" more slot lovers and share our experiences.

AsianBookie Casino Forum : got LOTS of Feng-shui TIPS and Good Luck Monthly Charts etc

Another forum that has occasional threads on the 2 Casinos is MyCarForum - Lite & EZ Forum :D :)
(I can only READ here not post as don't drive or own any car)

jjcc888
07-04-2011, 03:05 AM
JJcc, wish you luck and hope you strike the Big JP!!! Take care okay...:-)

Kam Sia - THANKS SO MUCH

Yup - FORCED to be more cautious due to lessening funds :o :(
Need to strike a BIG JP fast :) :o

Hmmm ... maybe I should take my dinner 1st BEFORE starting my slot session
Then play on in a GOOD MOOD etc
Bring Less Capital (so less to rollover or lose) so DIE DIE whatever happens can then leave for home EARLY [ie for MBS would mean leaving just before 11.30pm so can still take the Express Bus home - no need to have to pay cab after-midnite charges then]
*** Must NOT do ATM WDs :p:rolleyes:

jjcc888
07-04-2011, 03:28 AM
Recently i had been playing this 2ct game "Miss Kitty" and find that it can last quite long with few hundred capital playing at 250 credit.

Like yesterday, i played at rws from 11pm to ard 5am, win ard 1k from Kitty but donate it back to 50dragon and 5koi than go back play kitty again and end the session with a $500 loss.

This Kitty bonus game, if activated, is usually quite generous, with a typical payout of between 10 to 20k credit with a 250credit bet.

I'm not saying this game sure win money but it does last long for me, so lose liao also more satisfied cos can play long period.

To me, 50dragon is the worst, eat money like drinking water follow by fortune king and then maybe 5koi.

WHICH slots are the "luckier ones" - which EXACT location/spot ??
Share share luh !

Kia0042
07-04-2011, 06:11 AM
Going MBS tonight, long time never play that standalone 5koi, each time I walked there, I saw someone occupied the machine. Sigh~~

Kia0042
07-04-2011, 06:42 AM
AsianBookie Casino Forum : got LOTS of Feng-shui TIPS and Good Luck Monthly Charts etc

Another forum that has occasional threads on the 2 Casinos is MyCarForum - Lite & EZ Forum :D :)
(I can only READ here not post as don't drive or own any car)

I seldom post at Mycarforum coz many complaint Kings/Queen and argument there.
Slot play to mycarforumers are : Siao, play slot can win $ meh? I recently "UPGRADED" from slot games to table games. Slot discussion to Mycarforumer are stupid, and low class, only Aunties, Uncles or those who unable to afford table games go for slot. I don't like the people at mycarforum.

cheesey
07-04-2011, 08:37 AM
WHICH slots are the "luckier ones" - which EXACT location/spot ??
Share share luh !

There r 1 kitty inside orchid room but i prefer the 4 kitty at the smoking section cos they r more generous to me so far.

I think my mindset is ard yours : As long as the few hundreds can last 5hrs or more, i very happy le cos can enjoy the thrill and fun of playing slots.. Nowaday i nvr go with the thought of winning (admit it, it's tough to win playing slot), just wanna enjoy the fun of seeing free games and super combo payout.. Of course if kanna jp will be a bonus :):D.

If wanna lose less, maybe lose half of your intended capital then go home. For my case, it's always the same, lose almost all capital, then win back half or 3/4 back and then the cycle goes on till i lost it all or when i decide to stop at a nice figure.. Always unable to win back capital but can lose less thru discipline and of course LUCK.

Kia0042
08-04-2011, 02:10 AM
Played for 5hours plus and lost $150. :)
Beginning my profit went all the way up to 1.8k from several 5dragons winning but later of the night, I started to lose $300 at each machine.
At 1AM, I was exhausted, call it a night and total lost only $150, I had great fun playing Cashexpress 2cts, noticed the major JP2 was given away twice within that 5hours. :)

jjcc888
08-04-2011, 03:44 AM
Played for 5hours plus and lost $150. :)
Beginning my profit went all the way up to 1.8k from several 5dragons winning but later of the night, I started to lose $300 at each machine.
At 1AM, I was exhausted, call it a night and total lost only $150, I had great fun playing Cashexpress 2cts, noticed the major JP2 was given away twice within that 5hours. :)

That sounds like much my normal playing pattern too - tho' most times I lost much more than below $200 :p
BUT the thing is - must have ENJOYED while playing (even if lost)

After the Thurs breather yesterday, I'll be back at MBS this FRI PM off ... should be there around 3pm
Then 2 secretaries will meet me after they get off work tonight and we can go for dinner using my PDs
Another secretary MIGHT join us later on

Just read my Cosmic Calendar - doesn't sound altogether bad altho' expected 'auspicious day' supposed to be Sat tomorrow .... hahaha
hope also for gambling luck in addition to matters of the heart etc ...

"Thus, despite the foreboding presence of underworld Pluto about to take charge over the weekend, gains can be made if you are in the right place, at the right time, and in the right state of awareness. "
:D:D:D
Be optimistic :p;)

jjcc888
09-04-2011, 06:32 AM
Just read my Cosmic Calendar - doesn't sound altogether bad altho' expected 'auspicious day' supposed to be Sat tomorrow .... hahaha
hope also for gambling luck in addition to matters of the heart etc ...

"Thus, despite the foreboding presence of underworld Pluto about to take charge over the weekend, gains can be made if you are in the right place, at the right time, and in the right state of awareness. "
:D:D:D
Be optimistic :p;)

Sian :mad: :(
Looks like I was in the WRONG place, wrong time etc
On top of my Sunday's withdrawn lost 2k, I lost ANOTHER 2k last night (fresh 1k + further ATM 1k) making it 4k this week !

Initially on Fri afternoon I was UP (some $300-400s) simply playing at my fav Fafafa ChoySunYe end slot and the CashExpress fav FortuneKing slot where I ended up with just about $100 loss when I stopped play - when my secretary called to say they'd arrived at MBS just before 7 pm [they were held back unexpectedly bc of work as a client was late in seeing her etc and were driven over by one of the four]

I went out to the side entrance and discovered why they took such a long time in coming in - one secretary had her IC eaten up by the Levy Machine [at 'luckier?' B1 side entrance for S'poreans & PRs only] and waited longish time for Cashier Counter staff to come with keys to retrieve IC for her (apparently TOO busy to attend here bc counting $$$ !!!!! :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :()

The 4th unexpected secretary said she'd come along "just to eat and to watch the others playing and won't be playing herself" - got teased by the others saying she WOULD play as why pay $100 levy just to eat with them etc .....

After our dinner at Tong Dim, again they wanted Non-Smoking L1 and I again ended up at the 5cts Fafafa $500k JP - AGAIN lousy play here for me as I LOST badly (so far only ONE-TIME good play from my several plays here !!!) SIGHSSSS :mad:


Finally went back down to B1 - BUT whatever I played also pretty rotten at this time - including my fav machines
Then bumped into 2 of the 4 secretaries after 11.30 pm who told me they'll be leaving
Then around 2 am received call from my secretary who said only she and other sec still around ..... and before 4 am saw her and we went to PA Counter to check on our 'Voucher' points
For my frequent plays this week I got $250 worth vouchers [hmmm but lost 4k so far this week !!!]

I think I'll still go MBS later on this Sat evening
But only bring SMALL capital [ie BELOW 1k] - ouch ouch ouch ...
Die-die want to TEST my so-called 'auspicious day' at luckier timings of after 9pm for me :p :o :cool:
{tho' again it might mean 'auspicious for romance and not for gambling luck' since only a Heart Sign without the $ Sign too}

Then probably no casino visits until next Thurs & Fri - IF I'm following the Gambling Chart faithfully :rolleyes:
THIS month seems there are 4 CAUTION DAYS later too - BUT these are ALSO supposed to be Personal Gambling Chance Days too - so conflicting - which to trust or just trust moi own desires/moods/instincts-itch ???

Dodomeki
09-04-2011, 11:40 AM
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CoffeeMe
09-04-2011, 06:21 PM
Wow 4k. Jjcc, please take care, 4k is not a small sum. Me myself has been losing quite alot. Seems winning a major jp has no effect. Total lose 2k. Don't think will be going MBS anytime soon. It is too absurb for not even win back half of the capital for 2-3hrs of playing. Silly me for bringing the 1k notes :( Really can't control at all.

slotmania
10-04-2011, 03:50 AM
anyone has experience on Aliens vs Predator at RWS? any idea what is the progressive amount now?
This my favourite machine, last time I went which was two months ago, the progressive amount was arund $670k!

slotmania
10-04-2011, 06:52 AM
Anyone played Aliens vs Predator slot at RWS. This is my fav slot. Last played two months ago. Then progressive jackpot was around $670k! Wonder what is the current figure.

theblackhole
10-04-2011, 02:07 PM
Anyone played Aliens vs Predator slot at RWS. This is my fav slot. Last played two months ago. Then progressive jackpot was around $670k! Wonder what is the current figure.

Yah, good game to play.But overall, still lose. So have stayed away for quite some time now. Quite good payout when you hit the right machine. Have been avoiding the casinos - too much losses.....Good luck!

theblackhole
10-04-2011, 02:08 PM
Dear JJcc,

Please take it easy. Better exercise some restraint. 4K very jialat for me. So for $20K gone liao - one year!

jjcc888
10-04-2011, 04:23 PM
Dear JJcc,

Please take it easy. Better exercise some restraint. 4K very jialat for me. So for $20K gone liao - one year!

So much for earlier good intentions :(
Sat night after dinner, proceeded to the ATM at the MRT and instead of the 'intended Small Sum', withdrew 1k

Again none of the slots on Sat-Sun at MBS were 'good-paying' for me - including the usual fav slots at different timings and also since-hardly-touched Sabre-Toothed Tiger & Glitter & Gold Fruits & 777s (had brief fun there) & Power Platinum
Shen Long was again TERRIBLE last night !
Altho' DID get some Free Games from my Silver&Gold slots, no big sustained payouts
Also played a couple of Prosperity slots (5koi etc) - btw HOW does the JP at the Prosperity slot work - what sort of 'JP stuff drops on you etc - or is it coin-choosing as in Fafafa - have yet to witness anything here ... ?'
The 1k capital just wasn't sufficient for such a long stay and I did an ATM WD of $800 in the night
So my fresh capital of 1.8k was practically all gone from my overnite Sat stay (MBS total 5.8k here this week)

I left MBS for RWS around 8.0am+ Sunday morning after withdrawing another 1k for RWS play
My fav 2 FortuneKing slots at Island Delight were not really great-paying altho the spins DID give payouts & free games pretty regularly - but a case of Diminishing Returns as usual ....
Had to withdraw another $700 for my RWS PM Play

The RWS Fafafa Grand JP is now over 1 Million !!!
And KIA - the Smoking Area 5 cts CashTrain Express slots have been MOVED out to the Non-Smoking near AVP - MegaMillion & Hotshot area
Now there's a variety of different slots there
I particularly enjoyed playing the 2ct 100 Pandas (every 2 $50 notes or so, can make $150 to $200 from it, with the 2nd note NOT giving anything)
My fav paying RWS Diamonds&Roses was occupied so no choice but to play the others - at least 1 was also quite good giving Free Games here

OK now - I think I'm 'satiated with intensive slot play' for the time being :o:rolleyes:
Busted my budgets very badly this time round - so MUST now relax and take it easy/slow here
Guess I'm now near/at Slotloser's loss level :mad::(:eek:
Get it out of my 'system'
NO MORE EXTRA FUNDS therefore NO MORE INTENSE PLAY
THIS should be my very last 24-hour trip !
MUST keep some cash for other plans like holiday travel & trips etc - CAN'T spend everything at the casinos :eek::mad:
Maybe now go only ONCE a week or so - and play for SHORT HOURS with much less $$$ etc etc etc (If THAT is at all possible SIGHZZZZZZ)
Oh well - guess got to content with Online Slots bah ..... as last resort (or go up Genting - cheaper ?)

BTW saw RWS Ads on Members' 50% Off Hotel Rooms (till 30 April)
So sought clarification
So if interested in booking a Hotel Room call up RWS Membership to book
eg. if Normal Points for particular room is 240 points per night, until 30 April Only need to pay HALF or 120 points etc

CoffeeMe
11-04-2011, 02:45 AM
I think April is a good month for casino, seems that everyone lost? I had 8 night of losing strike continuously. All the way, no winnings. All started from losing 1k, then the 2nd night $500. Just like Jjcc, Couldn't believe my luck is that bad, again 3rd night bring another 1k. Lost. 4th night back to same ritual, lost $300. Blame my self for bringing the ATM card, withdraw another 1k, lost. 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th night no mood already. All the way losing. Well, to be fair, some of the game is return capital after lost few hundred. But after that all lost. Not sure about anyone, but for my case, if the first machine a lost game, that night sure end up a losing night. And vice-versa.

cheesey
11-04-2011, 03:24 AM
Quite agree with u on this suay month of April. So far i down 2.5k and this is really out of my norm.. Anyone know per chinese almanac which day supppose to be better for april? Jialat, i also become "pandan" liao..lol..

Kia0042
11-04-2011, 04:53 AM
It was a lose week for me too. :( and what I gained was $500 food voucher and P.D.
Almost 2 months haven't visit RWS !! Heard there are lots of changes, 2cts blankbluster moved to main entrance, etc.... I am so used to MBS nowadays and not keen to renew my RWS levy. My balance RWS pts shall redeem for Star Cruise Cabins and dinner at Palio the Italian food. :p

The Prosperity slot - Mystery Jackpot Bonus which is similar to RWS Island Delight / Gold Rush, does not require a feature spin, the JP simply hit randomly on any machine. The machine will halt for about 15 seconds when you hit the JP. ;)
The Prosperity slot area has 40 machines, JP1 prize Min $7,500 and Max $22,500. JP2 Prize Min $750 and Max $2,250. JP3 prize Min $75 and Max $225.

I heard rumor at MBS but don't sure how true it is, did you all noticed ? Whenever the JP reaches the "ripen" stage (eg, $2,000 for JP2), you will notice most of the machines are occupied by PRC who play 1 credit.
The most crazy incident took place last month at Level 1. The JP1 was $19,000, there are 24 machines at that area, 20 machines were occupied 24hours/day by this group of PRC, who are basically "employed" to sit there ($20/12hrs). They work on 2 "shift", it took them 1 week to hit the JP1 prize $20k. 7 days, 2 shifts, 40 "full-time" 12hrs/day, 5part-timers (3-5hrs/day), 1 leader and 3 supervisors. The AGENT who is the top man of this group, seldom appear in casino, he does all the coordination works with his PRC "clients", typical PRCs businessman and corrupted officers in China who have difficulties to "spend" their money. They enaged the agent for money laundary services, these businessman are happy enough to get back as little as 10% from what they "invested', that is- 100k from every 1 million they gave to the agent.

Kia0042
11-04-2011, 04:54 AM
Quite agree with u on this suay month of April. So far i down 2.5k and this is really out of my norm.. Anyone know per chinese almanac which day supppose to be better for april? Jialat, i also become "pandan" liao..lol..

Becasue you played too long at Fafafa and picked too many Pandas? Ha! (just joking)

volcanolee
11-04-2011, 08:15 AM
Hi bro kia,

Not rumor but its a fact. Even the casino employee told me that they hope other genuine player win the jackpot rather than those who play 1 line 1 bet. There were 2 groups, one PRC and one malaysian. Because of them, MBS has removed the 1cts jackpot $150/1500/15000 if I recalled correctly. So now, whenever the jackpot reach ripen stage, other players has no hope to secure seat at those slots.

Furthermore, the jackpot drop randomly. Even u play 1 line 1 bet, u also have chance to strike the jackpot

Kia0042
11-04-2011, 09:10 AM
Last week I saw a PRC at Level one 2cts mystery slot area, he worked there like he was working in his office! He had a briefcase, a notebook on his lap and a hardcover file blocking the entire screen of 5dragons.
Usually I see PRC aunties chatting and drinking while letting the machines running at 1 credit, but first time seeing a man brought his "office" to the casino, LOL.
Some younger PRC was playing their own handheld games and some actually sleep there!!
Something need to be done, let's suggest/feedback to MBS, either remove all Mystery Jackpot OR convert them to hyperlink feature like Fafafa, cashExpress, Clown OR pre-set min bet amount to 50/60credits and upgrade to 5cts domination. :mad:

jjcc888
11-04-2011, 09:49 AM
Becasue you played too long at Fafafa and picked too many Pandas? Ha! (just joking)

Hahaha - instead of Pandas, think she meant being 'pantang' or superstitious there

cheesey
11-04-2011, 10:02 AM
Hahaha - instead of Pandas, think she meant being 'pantang' or superstitious there

Ya lor, lose till pantang liao..:D

Thinking back, wearing orange on a number of occasions seems luckier for me, think later go buy another 1 or 2 pcs of orange t-shirt.

Lastly, i'm a 'he', not a 'she' hoh :). This thread the only 'she' should be JJCC nia, no other slotted woman ard le..heehee.

slotmania
11-04-2011, 02:35 PM
Yah, good game to play.But overall, still lose. So have stayed away for quite some time now. Quite good payout when you hit the right machine. Have been avoiding the casinos - too much losses.....Good luck!

Had some good exeriences with this machine. One time with just $200 kept having bonus features. Started increasing 40, 200 and even 400 credits per push. Kept paying. Then played between 200 or 400 credits by turns. Guess what? I got 5 AVP with 200 credits! If only I press 400 credits, I would have got the JP of $470k. Sigh. That strike I got $5k for 200 credits. Then after narrowly missing the JP I played maximum 400 credits all the way. Lost the $5k plus and put another $1k. RUN when you win. Kept reminding myself. Maybe going this Wednesday to test the machine.

jjcc888
11-04-2011, 03:35 PM
Ya lor, lose till pantang liao..:D

Thinking back, wearing orange on a number of occasions seems luckier for me, think later go buy another 1 or 2 pcs of orange t-shirt.

Lastly, i'm a 'he', not a 'she' hoh :). This thread the only 'she' should be JJCC nia, no other slotted woman ard le..heehee.

I think personal lucky colours, directions, timing etc etc depend very much on our birth time & date or BAZI
My lucky colours are supposedly black, grey, blue, brown, green ...... (altho' I'd also worn OTHER colours on certain last-minute non-casino-planned days that somehow turned out to be Good Casino Days too - so can't rely on such things 100%)

NO - I'm NOT the only 'she' here - ;) :cool:
CoffeMe is DEFINITELY also a female - posting about shopping & buying dresses with her JP winnings hehehe :D :)

jjcc888
11-04-2011, 03:47 PM
Something need to be done, let's suggest/feedback to MBS, either remove all Mystery Jackpot OR convert them to hyperlink feature like Fafafa, cashExpress, Clown OR pre-set min bet amount to 50/60credits and upgrade to 5cts domination. :mad:

NO !
- DON'T remove Mystery Jackpots
- DON'T remove 2 cts slots
Else we genuine slot "lowrollers" won't have much good slots to play with :eek: :confused: :(

Maybe can suggest that the IRs put up signs or have their staff bluntly telling the Non-Genuine Slot-playing "syndicated employees" that what they're doing is not welcome or a done thing (altho' technically not illegal etc until they spell out New Rules & Policies etc) as they are just spoiling the Genuine Slot-Players' fun & chances etc and that they might be 'removed at the IRs' discretion for 'undesirable behaviour etc' ;) :cool:

cheesey
11-04-2011, 04:46 PM
U r right. 2cts slot also lose till eye shit flow out le, cannot tahan 5cts 1 lah.

These idiot chinese syndicate really rob us of our "hitting the JP" chance but then sighzzz.. now seems like everything also ah tiong monopolize le.

How the casino able to handle and prevent such unethical practices - tough job sia...

cheesey
11-04-2011, 05:25 PM
Wah rauz.. if me got such mother, i think i will jump down with her..:confused:

300+K!!! How to clear the debt???

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/no-casino-ll-kill-myself-081338701.html

Kia0042
12-04-2011, 02:02 AM
I have found the link to download the 4 Aristocrat games http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G64FNKO0
I am not sure if it works. :rolleyes:

Kia0042
12-04-2011, 02:04 AM
Ya lor, lose till pantang liao..:D

Thinking back, wearing orange on a number of occasions seems luckier for me, think later go buy another 1 or 2 pcs of orange t-shirt.

Lastly, i'm a 'he', not a 'she' hoh :). This thread the only 'she' should be JJCC nia, no other slotted woman ard le..heehee.

I am very sure that there are MORE THAN one 'she' in this thread. ;)
And btw cheesey, your avatar makes people think you are 'girl'!

Kia0042
12-04-2011, 02:05 AM
Wah rauz.. if me got such mother, i think i will jump down with her..:confused:

300+K!!! How to clear the debt???

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/no-casino-ll-kill-myself-081338701.html

People say "Hai bo come" (the sea is not covered), this mother can go and jump!

rofthelper
12-04-2011, 06:41 AM
So much for earlier good intentions :(
Sat night after dinner, proceeded to the ATM at the MRT and instead of the 'intended Small Sum', withdrew 1k...

Sorry for asking, sis jjcc888. Did you keep track of the total amt. of losses?

Seems to me that you have chalked up quite a substantial amt. of losses. (abt 10k+?

jjcc888
12-04-2011, 07:00 AM
Sorry for asking, sis jjcc888. Did you keep track of the total amt. of losses?

Seems to me that you have chalked up quite a substantial amt. of losses. (abt 10k+?

Aiyah ... many times that 10k by now
Should be near/at Slotloser's loss level

But like Kia "happy can liao" since I KNEW exactly what I was doing/risking etc
:rolleyes::o:(
Of course could well have spent that sum on other "more worthwhile stuff" etc .....

ONLY thing is - would like some "payback substantial ROI" for the $$ spent in order to be able to continue with this expensive hobby !
Else won't be able to continue play in the same 'intensive' manner as I have been doing as running out of playing funds
Think playing Even Smaller & Slower (less often) etc would be real difficult after this :o:confused:

jjcc888
12-04-2011, 07:43 AM
Hey I told myself to take a real break and maybe only start going from Thurs or Fri

But after reading bits of my Cosmic Calendar today, feeling kinda itchy again :mad: :p

"The best day of April - so far - is here. To some extent, this is due to the lack of severe, challenging alignments that the cosmos appears to enjoy tossing into the Earth's direction just to watch mortals squirm.

Meanwhile, the good vibrations are plentiful as the Sun parallels Mercury (1:16AM PDT) and Venus forms an inspirational, 72-degree rapport with Pluto (4:34AM PDT). The Sun-Mercury linkage helps to neutralize some of the uncertainty happening because of the Messenger of the Gods still in reverse until April 23. Catch up with email and correspondence in any media format. Venus schmoozing comfortably with Pluto can enhance your romantic and financial affairs. Make the fine or graphic arts your playground for the day.

The Moon in Leo connecting with the red planet Mars in Aries via a flowing trine of 120-degrees (10:55AM PDT) is another impetus to make gains across the board. Games, sports and exercise are positive avenues for creative expression.

Learn lessons from esteemed mentors and teachers this evening - courtesy of a 60-degree tie from the Moon to Saturn (7:29PM PDT) as well as a harmonious trine connecting the lunar orb to Mercury (1:49AM PDT on Wednesday).

Take advantage of golden opportunities coming your way since Mars wrangles with Saturn tomorrow morning while another fairly long void lunar cycle holds court for over 10 hours during a later time-span on Wednesday."

Sighs .... might be reading too much into it ??
BUT then again I DID have a Good Day last Tues AND the previous Tues too ! :confused: :)

Mindless
12-04-2011, 09:42 AM
I heard rumor at MBS but don't sure how true it is, did you all noticed ? Whenever the JP reaches the "ripen" stage (eg, $2,000 for JP2), you will notice most of the machines are occupied by PRC who play 1 credit.
The most crazy incident took place last month at Level 1. The JP1 was $19,000, there are 24 machines at that area, 20 machines were occupied 24hours/day by this group of PRC, who are basically "employed" to sit there ($20/12hrs). They work on 2 "shift", it took them 1 week to hit the JP1 prize $20k. 7 days, 2 shifts, 40 "full-time" 12hrs/day, 5part-timers (3-5hrs/day), 1 leader and 3 supervisors. The AGENT who is the top man of this group, seldom appear in casino, he does all the coordination works with his PRC "clients", typical PRCs businessman and corrupted officers in China who have difficulties to "spend" their money. They enaged the agent for money laundary services, these businessman are happy enough to get back as little as 10% from what they "invested', that is- 100k from every 1 million they gave to the agent.

Hello everyone.

I usually play at RWS. I have never really noticed the above situation there. But I must admit that when the JP is ripe, the place will be bustling eg in Hollywood, Where's the Gold and Island Delight. I see people betting unusally high (eg 300 credits on 5c). I ever witnessed once immediately after the JP dropped, all the big players disappeared and the place became quiet again.

I must say that when JP is ripe (especially those with a max cap), it is always very tempting to play > 1 machine at once. But usually the place will be so crowded that once you are settled on a machine, you will have no chance to switch and you just make do with the one you have.

Just to also share with everyone: I had the most amazing spin at 2c Last Emperor today (a re-visit as I have given up hope on the Aruze game for a long while). Rescue spin was about 380 away. I sat down, put in $100 and played until rescue spin 200 away. Not giving up yet, I put in another $100 and got my Feature at Rescue spin ~130 spin away. I random picked 20 Free games. Then it retriggered. I luckily picked another 20 Free games. Then it retriggered again and again and again .........altogether 7 times. Of course, I didnt manage to pick the 20 Free games all the time. I got a few 10 times, and 5 times for a total of about 125 Free Spins! I betted 250 credits ($5) and at the end of the spin, my credits was ~$2200!This was my best feature game to-date.

Cheers.

Mindless
12-04-2011, 09:59 AM
To me, 50dragon is the worst, eat money like drinking water follow by fortune king and then maybe 5koi.

Hi. I agree with you that 50 Dragon, Fortune King and 5 Koi are not easy to play. But when they are hot, I have seen people "winning" alot. I see some regulars at the 5c "wheres the Gold" area. They usually play 300 credit (5 Koi/5 Dragons). When the feature comes, they usually pick the 20 free games (since they already bet max), and usually, they can get 5 digits credit figures. Of course, they must have the big capital to sustain that kind of play (to put the numbers in perspective: thats $15/spin and only last 67 spin on a $1000 capital.....which probably only last about 10-15 mins if there are insignificant win).

Mindless
12-04-2011, 10:13 AM
My fav 2 FortuneKing slots at Island Delight were not really great-paying altho the spins DID give payouts & free games pretty regularly - but a case of Diminishing Returns as usual ....
Had to withdraw another $700 for my RWS PM Play

The RWS Fafafa Grand JP is now over 1 Million !!!
And KIA - the Smoking Area 5 cts CashTrain Express slots have been MOVED out to the Non-Smoking near AVP - MegaMillion & Hotshot area
Now there's a variety of different slots there


I am amazed by the efficiency of the workers. LIke what JJCC said, now Cash Express shifted to the non-smoking area near AVP. Tried some games, but still cant get any Train feature at all. Sigh.

Also, the IGT games near the Right Entrance have made way for many rows of 2c BankBusters. I played for a while there, got many BankBusters features (but at most only get the Mini JP). I personally like the Aristocrat games in BankBusters, but I find that the payout is bad and the feature games are more difficult to trigger and also the paytable seems to be lower compared to a similar game in Where's the Gold or Hollywood.

slotmania
12-04-2011, 02:39 PM
Just came back from RWS. This afternoon around 4.50pm a Mr Tay won the mega million of $1.8 million. The machine is Cashcove in Orchid Room of 5cents machine. he played midrange and not maximum to win the mega million. Lucky man!


I played the Aliens vs Predator. Damage $2k. JP now is $877k!
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Mindless
13-04-2011, 01:22 AM
I played the Aliens vs Predator. Damage $2k. JP now is $877k!
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Hi,
I played AVP yesterday too for probably about 20 mins. Only managed to get one feature spin and lousy payout. Personally, I find that the AVP just makes alot of sound, with inflexible betting lines and to qualify for the JP, I think one needs to bet Max (someone pls verify). So it doesnt really excite me (a small-mid bet player). AVP is probably more suitable for those with deep pockets, especially when the JP is riped, since there are not so many AVP machines around, so the probability is higher.

aurvandil
13-04-2011, 01:51 AM
Aiyah ... many times that 10k by now
Should be near/at Slotloser's loss level

But like Kia "happy can liao" since I KNEW exactly what I was doing/risking etc
:rolleyes::o:(
Of course could well have spent that sum on other "more worthwhile stuff" etc .....

Like Bro Blackhole, you should probably take some time and chill. You will see things with a different persepctive after you stop and take stock. All too often, people continue to play for the sake of playing rather than because they are actually having fun.

CoffeeMe
13-04-2011, 02:56 AM
Bro Aurvandil has a point.
Monday went to MBS again, seen the fafafa $120k JP has been won. Who is that lucky winner? Any of us here? :)

Just for sharing, before won the small JP, my mentality was to have fun, win/lose some and go home. But, after that JP, everytime go feel like want to hit JP. funny. the worse thing is, when lose some capital, lose control, starts to hit bigger credit. Realise already burn a big hole, somemore the free features give nothing :(
Now, taking a break. No slots for April. Not even gonna appear for whatever club draw.

Btw JJCC, I am a male :) ya, mentioned shopping clothes, not dress lar...:P
Buying for gf also good idea...hmm....

N.B: Those crepes at MBS (white boxes by Jules Destrooper and Crepe Chocolate Lait by Gavottes) at giftshop quite good. Nice one :P Not expensive, barely $7 / box and can be paid by PD. I bought 10 boxes just to give to friends and office colleagues.

jjcc888
13-04-2011, 04:22 AM
Bro Aurvandil has a point.
Monday went to MBS again, seen the fafafa $120k JP has been won. Who is that lucky winner? Any of us here? :)

Just for sharing, before won the small JP, my mentality was to have fun, win/lose some and go home. But, after that JP, everytime go feel like want to hit JP. funny. the worse thing is, when lose some capital, lose control, starts to hit bigger credit. Realise already burn a big hole, somemore the free features give nothing :(
Now, taking a break. No slots for April. Not even gonna appear for whatever club draw.

Btw JJCC, I am a male :) ya, mentioned shopping clothes, not dress lar...:P
Buying for gf also good idea...hmm....

N.B: Those crepes at MBS (white boxes by Jules Destrooper and Crepe Chocolate Lait by Gavottes) at giftshop quite good. Nice one :P Not expensive, barely $7 / box and can be paid by PD. I bought 10 boxes just to give to friends and office colleagues.

Hmmm ... lucky thing I DON'T switch to HIGHER Credits when I lose
I NORMALLY switchover from Lower to Higher Credits only AFTER having already increased my Credit Base from the Won Free Games etc tho' once or twice had tried so-called 'strategy of Varying the Bets' to 'force some different hopefully better spin result' etc ...

According to my personal Moderated Daily Luck Chart, the Club Draw Weekend happens to be around my 'luckiest/highest for this month' ie around the 21st & 22nd April ! Well guess no harm just swiping my card, but unlikely to play BIG as my playing funds are low right now :mad::(:o

TQ - When I was down at the Gift Shop last month-end, didn't see any $7 crepes... only the $32+ Belgian Dark Chocolates !
OK - can buy some of these (must be like those nice Japan-like type then) :)
Good Idea - can buy these for SECRETARIES' WEEK next week !
I have 5 main secretaries working under me too :)

My colleague was just proposing a Get-together Dinner this weekend with another 'long-lost' friend, so I said why not go to MBS - so we'll see whether that can be arranged ! :):p

Think I'll just pop by Thurs/Fri - hopefully just wheeze by with small playing capital and see whether that can enable more sustained play or not. If not, just go off !
Anyway Sat morning I have a lengthy Spa session till the afternoon - after that see my mood and Fri visit outcome bah + whether the Dinner at MBS is on etc .... or maybe just rest again on Sat and only pop in on Sun (if at all) - not sure of any weekend casino plans yet !

To me slot-playing is a hobby but a VERY Expensive Hobby
If funds are exhausted, of course no choice but to Stop & Rest until funds are again available to indulge here again (ie provided the interest etc is still on slots at that later point in time bc we all can have changed interests/hobbies/priorities in the future....)

EDITED :
BTW my colleague also tompang me to buy for her 5 boxes of the crepes to give her own 4 secretaries .... me kiasu .... scared not enough boxes left - might as well pop by MBS TONIGHT (but NO casino bc got to go home for dinner !) to buy them (last time they'd left less than 5 boxes of the Belgian Dark Chocs too) ... yuh far easier to buy stuff for the secretaries than buying lunch for them since the Bosses already getting the whole company a Secretaries' Week Big Lunch somewhere {still not decided yet where bc very sian of always Carousel or Hyatt for halal food .... know of any other places ???}

jjcc888
13-04-2011, 01:06 PM
TQ - When I was down at the Gift Shop last month-end, didn't see any $7 crepes... only the $32+ Belgian Dark Chocolates !
OK - can buy some of these (must be like those nice Japan-like type then) :)
Good Idea - can buy these for SECRETARIES' WEEK next week !
I have 5 main secretaries working under me too :)
....

EDITED :
BTW my colleague also tompang me to buy for her 5 boxes of the crepes to give her own 4 secretaries .... me kiasu .... scared not enough boxes left - might as well pop by MBS TONIGHT (but NO casino bc got to go home for dinner !) to buy them (last time they'd left less than 5 boxes of the Belgian Dark Chocs too) ... yuh far easier to buy stuff for the secretaries than buying lunch for them since the Bosses already getting the whole company a Secretaries' Week Big Lunch somewhere {still not decided yet where bc very sian of always Carousel or Hyatt for halal food .... know of any other good halal places ???}

Well as I'd feared, the MBS Gift Shop only left with miserable LAST box of Gavottes Crepe Chocolat Noir ($9.90) and last 5 boxes of Jules Destrooper Cinnamon/Almond Biscuits ($7.95) and I swiped them all ! These can be given to some of the Support Staff etc and I'll be sharing that box of crepes too ....
That means my colleague has got to buy something else for her secretaries now :o :cool:

I bought the also white packaging Belgian Pralines/Belgian Caffe Latte ($14.95) for my secretaries instead (more 'reasonable-bigger-sized presentation box' ;) :))

On reaching home, discovered my mom DIDN'T cook my dinner tonight bc she was all 'confused' over whether I was/wasn't going to 'rot' at the casino for tonight etc
So I told her from Thurs onwards until I inform her otherwise, don't bother to cook for me :p :(

I'm in Club 500 that means the Sat 23rd Draws (but luckiest day for April for me supposed to be on Thurs 21st :confused: :rolleyes:) )

Guess I'll play just Small & Short stint tomorrow Thurs as well as on my Fri PM Off (bc can't play too long as Fri night attending Farewell Dinner for one of the popular executive staff going back home to Malaysia to complete her '9-month professional stint' - much better move career-wise for her !)
OK - I'll try to CONTROL myself (eg No ATM WDs etc etc etc) :o :mad:

slotmania
13-04-2011, 02:09 PM
Hi,
I played AVP yesterday too for probably about 20 mins. Only managed to get one feature spin and lousy payout. Personally, I find that the AVP just makes alot of sound, with inflexible betting lines and to qualify for the JP, I think one needs to bet Max (someone pls verify). So it doesnt really excite me (a small-mid bet player). AVP is probably more suitable for those with deep pockets, especially when the JP is riped, since there are not so many AVP machines around, so the probability is higher.

you are rite, you need to play Max of 400 credits to qualify for JP. I tried to do that, punt cek in less than an hour. :eek:

volcanolee
13-04-2011, 03:07 PM
i just received email from MBS and im in Club 500 too. however, i dont think i ever play 500points for the of March ler? wonder how they assign the club to each player?

jjcc888
13-04-2011, 03:29 PM
i just received email from MBS and im in Club 500 too. however, i dont think i ever play 500points for the of March ler? wonder how they assign the club to each player?

That's for the whole of the month of March accumulative
I know I DID earn that many points in March for MBS [bc hardly RWS - only 3x]
Easily each MBS visit close to 50-100 points [shorter stints] -
if an Overniter-Weekender then may be even as much as 120-150 points !!!!

samcw2
15-04-2011, 01:32 AM
I am in Club 100, draw will be on 22nd Apr, holiday rite?, What's this draw about?

jjcc888
15-04-2011, 01:58 AM
I am in Club 100, draw will be on 22nd Apr, holiday rite?, What's this draw about?

See the ads on the MBS billboards
The usual lucky draws for those whose name got picked
Based on minimum category of points played/earned in March
3 winners per hour from 5pm to 10pm
Higher Cash Prizes for those in the 'higher clubs' etc
If not wrong - for Club 500 the lowest is 1k and highest is 50k ? (3 amounts every hour)

Kia0042
15-04-2011, 06:42 AM
I am in club1000, 3,500+ entries, 18 lucky winners, up to $100,000 cash to be won. Anyway, I am not interested in the lucky draws, they will never pick me. :(
Going MBS tonight, hopefully no rain this late afternoon, everyday rains and my $$ drain out of my wallet like rain water.:(

jjcc888
15-04-2011, 09:51 AM
I went MBS Thurs - last night (after a 'long for me' 3-day break ) - again it was all loss
Had chance to minimise loss - had accumulated 'wins' to $1,200 ticket but tried to get higher - ended up from $1,200 to 1k, then $900 & 800, then back up to 1k+ several times BUT ultimately couldn't continue on bc already 3am so MUST leave and left the casino with only a miserable $600 balance from last ticket (lost initial 1k + further $400 from withdrawn 2nd 1k last night !!!!)
Saw that the 2cts 100k Fafafa had been won (now only 50k+)

Today decided to be GOOD and NOT go to the casino on my Fri PM Off
Instead went to hair salon and had my hair cut/restyled, steamed etc (much better use of my money ?) then bought 2 consecutive System 7 Toto (3 Million ?) and also Rojak etc for tea
After typing this, I'll go off for the Farewell Dinner - after that may/may not go MBS hahaha (bc this Thurs & Fri supposedly Good for Gambling Chances huh !)
On Sat evening, have plans to have Dinner with 2 friends at MBS (very likely at Pizzaria Mozza ? if not the Rise Buffet ... using the Vouchers) - only intend then on Sat to get my Minimal Bonus $15 ? Voucher as this week didn't play much (plus a Carpark Coupon for friend) as Sat NOT likely to be a Good Gambling Day for me as NOT stated as such from my Bazi Gambling Chart .... sighzzzz
But then again such Bazi Info can't be relied on - only for Fun & Reference ???

Mindless
15-04-2011, 10:30 AM
Voucher as this week didn't play much (plus a Carpark Coupon for friend) as Sat NOT likely to be a Good Gambling Day for me as NOT stated as such from my Bazi Gambling Chart .... sighzzzz
But then again such Bazi Info can't be relied on - only for Fun & Reference ???

Hi JJCC888,

May I suggest you plot/track all your Bazi Gambling Chart vs your gaming outcome. Looking back over time, you will have a very good idea whether the Chart can be relied on.

Also if you have multiple Bazi chart, you can even tell whether one reference is more accurate than the other........ :D

CoffeeMe
15-04-2011, 10:59 AM
Learning from my experience and bro's & sis' here, i can only tell playing slots is always like this: hit first few machines, lost. Then, if hit one machine give some winning, then lost mind. Start to "huntam" bigger credit. End up lost the winning back! Worst, the capital is eaten up.
Now must learn to take a break after some free feature winnings. I mean, logically, if 1 machine give a good pay out, the next machines won't be the same. Unless, someone has lost too much.
Because of the striking lost on previous week, so scared of losing back. Last few days of playing, once i hit winning machine or win back the capital that lost on that same day, i just go off. Somemore, not sure why, the first 15mnts usually will win. And always end up lose all at the end. Anybody know why? And usually, the losing part is always at the very last minute. At the very few machines near entrance/exit. I guess bad habit :)

theblackhole
15-04-2011, 12:32 PM
Hi Bros and Sis,

Was lying very low when my overseas friend came and asked me to bring him to MBS.So we went to Imperial Treasures and had our lunch.He then suggested the Ruby Room.So I signed him in and he played the $25 chip roulette. I walked around and then itchy itchy played the ChoySanYah minimum 20 cents! I sat down and played the 7 credits only!!!Hahaha...nobody played the slots at Ruby Room. So I sat down and played....and after half an hour, I got a feature and I played the 20 games...and I won $90 !!!Happy like hell, quickly cashed out and stopped playing - lost too much already .

Went to my friend's table and he was losing and bleeding like mad. He told me he would return to his hotel himself and I could return to my office. I wished him luck and left. At 4 pm, he SMS me and told me that he had lost a bomb!!!!

$25 chip and I saw skyscrapers on the table. Many of them are young Singaporeans smoking away and burning their money away as well. Looking at the players on the table, I felt quite sad...

jjcc888
15-04-2011, 03:55 PM
Hi JJCC888,

May I suggest you plot/track all your Bazi Gambling Chart vs your gaming outcome. Looking back over time, you will have a very good idea whether the Chart can be relied on.

Also if you have multiple Bazi chart, you can even tell whether one reference is more accurate than the other........ :D

Well most of the time I'm NOT exactly following my so-called better timings when I play - and also maybe 'human nature' we like to 'rationalise away or find some due reason' when we happen to be more unlucky or surprisingly have a 'better/luckier day' than the norm :D :) :p

As I said I ALSO have read some last-minute Daily Cosmic Readings which have given me 'reason' to over-turn the Bad Bazi Reading and made me go into the casino : when the result is a Good Nice-Playing Day {tho' NO big JPs and such} I would then say the Cosmic Reading was accurate etc

Or maybe it's all 'co-incidence only' - eg Remember I had 2 Good Fun Days in March (both were Tuesdays !)

Anyway since APRIL is such a BAD Month for me and many others, I've decided to keep a 'low profile' where the casinos are concerned - play less often so as to lose less etc {try my best at least here !}
Moreover the latter part of April has several days of CAUTION for me too !!!! :eek: :( :mad:

But then again everything depends on my itchy self-control (or lack of it) and especially on my supply of funds (which is at the low level now)

Like tonight - altho' they were teasing me about adjoining to MBS after our Dinner
We kept sane and decided NOT to go (esp. during this lousy April month) ;):cool:
Guess it's a good time to CHILL for now (until my 'luckier 21st-22nd April period ?)

CoffeeMe
17-04-2011, 08:56 AM
Sat was too busy meeting friends for lunch & dinner, that has allowed me to rest mind from playing slots. But itchy hand after meeting 11.30pm go to mbs. Lucky enough for not bringing any atm. Lost few hundred. Go home at 1am. Early morning couldn't sleep, then go mbs at 9am. Lovely cashtrain machines was empty, only few people. Then manage to win back last nite. Then go fafafa, hit 5dragon machines near entrance, manage to win few hundred. Total go home win $1200 with $300 capital at 12.30pm. Go gift shop buy some snacks for tonight relax.pick from experience, although it seems that mbs fengshui is weaker, must control not to go these few days. Or else, no point winning $$, sure lose it back.

theblackhole
17-04-2011, 12:52 PM
Thank you for sharing Bro Coffeeme. Well done, I think if you win a few hundreds , it's already a very good performance. If I don't lose, I'm already happy. And if I win a couple of hundreds, I'm now very happy. Cash out and run...and then buy something back to cherish the winnings instead of staying on and losing it all plus all the capital. Bro Silverfox's DISCIPLINE is still very important..

DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE AND MORE DISCIPLINE......

jjcc888
17-04-2011, 02:38 PM
Thank you for sharing Bro Coffeeme. Well done, I think if you win a few hundreds , it's already a very good performance. If I don't lose, I'm already happy. And if I win a couple of hundreds, I'm now very happy. Cash out and run...and then buy something back to cherish the winnings instead of staying on and losing it all plus all the capital. Bro Silverfox's DISCIPLINE is still very important..

DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE AND MORE DISCIPLINE......

My LACK of DISCIPLINE got to me AGAIN on Sat !!! :mad::(

On Sat I reached MBS around 6pm and started my Pre-Dinner Slot Play (Session 1)
It was an enjoyable stint and I was a little UP when I stopped
Collected this week's 'minimal play' $40 Vouchers (only 1 day Thurs play) etc
NB : Saturday play is NOT counted for the Voucher Bonus

But itchy-me decided to keep playing AFTER our Dinner ended.
I'd called Pizzeria Mozza way too late and was told Sat only 10.30pm available seating (had to try umpteen times before could get through too !) - wa very popular now !!!!
And RISE also told me 7.30 pm all booked out and only 8.30pm possible - my friends were amazed at all that activity & mountain of people at MBS (even on Non-Weekends)
Well just as well as my driving friend was caught up in the traffic and had problems accessing the MBS Carpark too and got there 8.30pm instead of the originally 7.30pm timing too !!!!
So used up $240 Vouchers on the RISE Dinner for 3 (my friend paid the balance 11 cents)
Buffets quite wasted on us as we can't eat much now - but what to do since can't have our originally-planned Pizza Dinner ?
Now left with $150 Vouchers till end-May

Sat night Session 2 play was really really bad :eek: :(
Lost all my balance capital + minimal winnings + Sat additional capital (PLUS further ATM withdrawn $500)
Now WHY didn't I keep to my Original Intention to only play from AFTER 21st April when my luck is supposedly better ?????

Sighzzzzz .... my own doing and lack of resolve !!!

OK OK - MUST now NOT PLAY until at least AFTER 21st APRIL !!!!!!!
(Bc I don't think I'll enjoy myself if I bring only less-than-$500 playing capital anyway - bc I'll only do further ATM WDs as somehow have gotten so used to 'rolling-over at least 1k-1500+ capital' and I can't do so much further with depleting balances and without any decent winnings to keep this going ! )

At least if Got 2-Ways : Got Go also Got Come - still OK
BUT if ONLY 1-Way Street : Only Got Go (Loss) No decent Wins - very very jialat !!!
Want to continue indulging myself at the casinos also cannot
SIGHS :(:mad: :o:rolleyes:

aurvandil
18-04-2011, 04:44 AM
Thank you for sharing Bro Coffeeme. Well done, I think if you win a few hundreds , it's already a very good performance. If I don't lose, I'm already happy. And if I win a couple of hundreds, I'm now very happy. Cash out and run...and then buy something back to cherish the winnings instead of staying on and losing it all plus all the capital.

Glad to see that you have turned things around and are back in control.

Previously I used to play table games only as I thought that the relatively low payback on slots was for suckers only. Recently however, I have developed a new methodology that utilises slots and the Law of Large Numbers to get free holidays from Uncle Lim. The method allows you to consistently get a 3 day 2 night stay (BUFFET meals included) at Genting Malaysia for only about RM 300.

if you think about it, that is only slightly more than paying the S$100 levy yo go RWS/MBS for 24 hours.

Kia0042
18-04-2011, 08:14 AM
A lost week for me again. :( Forgotten to redeem my $500 food voucher somemore.:(

BTW, I have received a complimentary return air ticket to Manila + 2nights hotel stay at MWS, anyone else received?
I can't travel, I've Acrophobia since year 2000, my last oversea trip was Melbourne & HK. :o Since then, I have not step out of Singapore !:o

I have many other weird phobias, fear to wait, fear to Q, fear to take bus/mrt/train/taxi and other people's car (but no problem to drive), go hair cut, see dentist, see doctor, undergo medical treatment, fear of crowd, fear of traffic jam, etc... no doubts all my friends say I am very difficult person to "hock sai". :cool: In conclusion of all my fears, I'm having anxiety disorder, no cure.

showhand
18-04-2011, 08:30 AM
If fear of crowd, then how you go casino?:). As long as you have no fear of gambling its ok.hehehe:D

theblackhole
18-04-2011, 12:36 PM
Take care Bro Kia and thank you Bro Aurvandil...

I share the many phobias and anxieties of Bro Kia....but slowly slowly overcoming them. My biggest fear is TO LOSE uncontrollably and go bankrupt.Always got this fear...now even scare to go inside the casino. Win a few hundreds, quickly run because I know, if I stay longer, I'll certainly lose my pants too...

So better NOT ENTER....and if no choice ENTER, better protect myself with DISCIPLINE DISCIPLINE DISCIPLINE......

CoffeeMe
19-04-2011, 10:18 AM
A colleague of mine went to mbs yesterday. Pay the $100 daily levy just to feel how a casino like. With $200 he played the rapid baccarat won $75. Go to fafafa jp won $220. Then take a break for dinner. After that he lost all his winning. Then he faster called me and ask me why. I said maybe luck. Then he said could it be the food? I said, how could it be. Then he told me he just had some "sushi" :) then i said he should bring chinese fan as it is call in hokkien "ia shi".
Good day bro and sis!:)

jjcc888
19-04-2011, 04:23 PM
I read from HardwareZone Forum that it's NOT lucky to drink the Orange Juice in casinos bc "Orange=Chern = drown/lose":confused:

Ya come to think of it MOST times I'll lose any prior winnings too after a meal there :(
So best is either to EAT OUTSIDE 1st before playing OR control hunger (also bursting bladder if can't get helpful attendant to jaga your slot ....) until about ready to leave then makan late supper ???
Tho' I HAVE eaten my dinner 1st thing then started on my slot play and it did turn out "well" a couple of times too - so ??????
Guess NO Hard & Fast Rules here

I still find it tough bringing smallish capital of only say $200 - $400
Many times I'd spent/wasted as much as even $500 coaxing a fav slot to start behaving itself to give good payouts/free games :p :o :rolleyes:

I think I'll pop by MBS on 21st April after my Spa treatment
- to test my so-called luck then
(Today cancelled my Spa bc having a running nose :mad:)
But I should be there on Sat PM for the Club 500 Draws
After that probably a longish break since got several Caution Days for me
BUT then I do remember having a 'lucky/good day' previously even tho' it was a Caution Day too !
So guess depends on my MOOD etc most of all ! :)

BTW KIA - what's MWS ?
Nvm your many phobias & fears ..... so long as you remain lucky at striking your Major JPs :D :cool:

Kia0042
20-04-2011, 02:22 AM
Noticed more and more people getting "pantang" here, should I follow the "trend" too. Not to eat, not to drink orange juice (by the way I never see B1 serve orange juice), wear lucky colour shirt and underwear:p, plug some "sha lui" leaf or pemolo leaf and put inside the pocket, etc..... well, is it true that these can bring me good luck. Perhaps I should try, see if I can win big JP. :p

MWS - Resort World Manila, not MWS should be RWM, pradon me. Received from Genting Hong Kong, don't know why? :confused:

CoffeeMe
20-04-2011, 03:56 AM
Well, my only pantang is: the money that i've won have to be bank in, Not keep at home for next trip to casino. I believe the money frm casino, belong to the casino. So far, from my previous 3 trips it worked. Another way of cutting loss that i do is never put the winning ticket to the slot machine again. So, if i go with 6-10 pcs of $50 notes, once i hit free features and won, that note i won't gamble it back anymore. Hence, wheater it is supertisious or not, this way will cut my losses. Unless really no luck, all will be gone like water...

jjcc888
20-04-2011, 07:04 AM
Well, my only pantang is: the money that i've won have to be bank in, Not keep at home for next trip to casino. I believe the money frm casino, belong to the casino. So far, from my previous 3 trips it worked. Another way of cutting loss that i do is never put the winning ticket to the slot machine again. So, if i go with 6-10 pcs of $50 notes, once i hit free features and won, that note i won't gamble it back anymore. Hence, wheater it is supertisious or not, this way will cut my losses. Unless really no luck, all will be gone like water...

Problem is - THE money that I win (when I do win as such) is so utterly miserable (usually forms less than 25% of my capital except on those 2 rare occasions when I got 1k and 2k in March) amounting to just several hundreds that it's just NOT worth the trouble of depositing it in the bank a/c - when the next trip or so further capital would be needed with an ATM WD. I've no problems carrying a sum of 2k or more in my bag (all ready for any casino action) - no "danger" at all !

When I do get a good free game run, I might print the ticket out and may/may not insert it back to continue the game
I'll normally insert it back in when I've run out/used up all my $50 notes (eg. when each $50 note has got their own winning printed ticket)
I tend to believe that EACH fresh $50 note or insertion of printed ticket brings forth a FRESH new scenario (eg. the 1st fresh New Spins tend to give some payout and on my fav slots ALSO tend to come with Free Game feature within 1st 3 spins on a 'Good Day')

Of course when I've had enough for the day/night
I'll simply combine/consolidate all the tickets into ONE ticket using the slot machine to do a simple cash-out

Hey btw - today 1st time MBS called to remind me to attend the Club 500 Draws on Sat (from 3 pm card swipe) - also got SMS earlier on it
NOW IF ONLY I do get to win that Top Prize $50k !!!! :D

Kia0042
20-04-2011, 09:00 AM
I am going MBS and "carry out" all the above pantang action tonight. :D
See if I able to catchup that BIG TRAIN (72k)!!!:p

jjcc888
20-04-2011, 09:27 AM
I am going MBS and "carry out" all the above pantang action tonight. :D
See if I able to catchup that BIG TRAIN (72k)!!!:p

Must also throw some sweets around the slots for the "casino devils or siao ren = small people"
Bring your personal lucky charm or mascot along too etc

jjcc888
21-04-2011, 02:52 AM
I meant to go MBS tonight BUT this morning while crossing the road came across this grey-robed NUN ! :confused: :eek: :(
SIGHZZZZ .... hope a Nun's Bad-Luck-Causing Effect is minimal compared with coming across a MONK (in grey/saffron robes)
Or that my Supposed-Luckiest April Day can 'overcome all bad-luck thingies etc' :o ;)

Think I'll go MBS straight after work
ie cancel my Spa treatment bc still not quite well [no more runny nose but bad sore throat now from the Flu tablets] :D

CoffeeMe
21-04-2011, 03:55 AM
Wednesday nite game quite fun. As planned, only wanna have a very light fun and get the $15 voucher, so hit mbs at 8pm. Easily, $250 gone in half hour though played in 60credits. Then withdraw $200 with target to win $100 back. Then 5dragon machine given back very generous pay out 5 coins at 150 credits. Take a break go giftshop for some chocolate. The next machine able to win back the earlier $250 + win $100. But ping pong alot, instead of to claim $15 voucher manage to claim the $40. 11.30pm cannot tahan liao, so sleepy. Go home with $100 win + $40 voucher after 3hrs. Lucky enough not to lose but win abit instead.....

Kia0042
21-04-2011, 07:20 AM
Must also throw some sweets around the slots for the "casino devils or siao ren = small people"
Bring your personal lucky charm or mascot along too etc

Won $800 after 5 hours of fun slot play last night. :p
What I brought with me was 3 pieces of Sha liu leave that I plugged from my office. :p My mascot is on my car dashboard, a little too big to carry it with me. :o And to throw sweets arround slot machines, very paisay action leh, can't do that.

Conclude all the Pantangs:
lucky color shirt,
bring along mascot,
throw sweets,
cashout winning TITO ticket, insert fresh notes,
enter from side entrance ??
visit on lucky day/hours,
pick corner machines,
avoid seeing monk/nun,
don't eat or drink orange juice,
put sha liu or pomelo leaf in pocket,

anymore??

I am getting a little pantang too. :o

jjcc888
21-04-2011, 08:44 AM
Just read this morning's email on the 2 complimentary tickets to 15 May AIR SUPPLY Concert and called to reserve them (1st come 1st served). :D :D :D

Now iF ONLY they'll ALSO simply give all of us Free Tickets for LION KING too (My friend says it's a Must Go !)

volcanolee
21-04-2011, 03:40 PM
hi JJCC,

Lucky u.. i didnt receive any email for complimentary Air Supply ticket.. not sure if can call to reserve though.. hahaha.. do u need to quote any number?

medoil
22-04-2011, 01:26 AM
I do have the complimentary tickets for 2 to AirSupply as well but Lion King would be better :p. Strange but I'm only a small player ~ PD below 200 :o

theblackhole
22-04-2011, 06:33 AM
Hi Bros and Sis,

I went to MBS last nite and lost a bomb! I didn't know what happened to me.I got into a frantic daze! Lost my initial $500 capital and went to my ATMs and withdrew three times in a hope to win back my losses. I told myself this is madness!! This is mad! You've to stop withdrawing from your ATMs!!! I lost control. Played roulette...lost! Then wanted to make a quick recovery.Played Big and Small...lost. Then switched to rapid fire roulette...lost again. It was a losing night. I told myself must stop..remember discipline...But I simply went out and kept withdrawing from my ATMs!!! Then I went to Ruby to play the 20 cents slots hoping to hit it big! But lost with no features.The Choysanyeh was completely no payments. So lost and lost and lost....In the end, feeling dead tired already and no concentration, I drove home....down $4K!!!! Heart-broken man!!! I really didn't know what happened to me!!! I lost control and I lost painfully.....Please don't follow my stupidity gambling adventure. Take care brothers and sisters here.This gambling demon is real bad - a living nightmare!!! Once you start to chase your losses, it's a path to HELL!!! Take care...I don't know how long it will take to heal my wounds and recover my losses - if ever at all..Damned sad!!!

bearbearfury
22-04-2011, 08:27 AM
Hi Bros and Sis,

I went to MBS last nite and lost a bomb! I didn't know what happened to me.I got into a frantic daze! Lost my initial $500 capital and went to my ATMs and withdrew three times in a hope to win back my losses. I told myself this is madness!! This is mad! You've to stop withdrawing from your ATMs!!! I lost control. Played roulette...lost! Then wanted to make a quick recovery.Played Big and Small...lost. Then switched to rapid fire roulette...lost again. It was a losing night. I told myself must stop..remember discipline...But I simply went out and kept withdrawing from my ATMs!!! Then I went to Ruby to play the 20 cents slots hoping to hit it big! But lost with no features.The Choysanyeh was completely no payments. So lost and lost and lost....In the end, feeling dead tired already and no concentration, I drove home....down $4K!!!! Heart-broken man!!! I really didn't know what happened to me!!! I lost control and I lost painfully.....Please don't follow my stupidity gambling adventure. Take care brothers and sisters here.This gambling demon is real bad - a living nightmare!!! Once you start to chase your losses, it's a path to HELL!!! Take care...I don't know how long it will take to heal my wounds and recover my losses - if ever at all..Damned sad!!!

Bro, no offence. you might want to consider to ban yourself just like what i did on feb. It was tough but i managed to get rid of this evil hobby gradually. The only time i can gamble now to to bring my family on star cruise once or twice a year which i just did in Apr.
.......

Slotloser
22-04-2011, 01:17 PM
Hi Bros and Sis,

I went to MBS last nite and lost a bomb! I didn't know what happened to me.I got into a frantic daze! Lost my initial $500 capital and went to my ATMs and withdrew three times in a hope to win back my losses. I told myself this is madness!! This is mad! You've to stop withdrawing from your ATMs!!! I lost control. Played roulette...lost! Then wanted to make a quick recovery.Played Big and Small...lost. Then switched to rapid fire roulette...lost again. It was a losing night. I told myself must stop..remember discipline...But I simply went out and kept withdrawing from my ATMs!!! Then I went to Ruby to play the 20 cents slots hoping to hit it big! But lost with no features.The Choysanyeh was completely no payments. So lost and lost and lost....In the end, feeling dead tired already and no concentration, I drove home....down $4K!!!! Heart-broken man!!! I really didn't know what happened to me!!! I lost control and I lost painfully.....Please don't follow my stupidity gambling adventure. Take care brothers and sisters here.This gambling demon is real bad - a living nightmare!!! Once you start to chase your losses, it's a path to HELL!!! Take care...I don't know how long it will take to heal my wounds and recover my losses - if ever at all..Damned sad!!!

Hi Bro,

you are not alone man....I went MBS last night as well as this afternoon and hit a lost of S$3.8k in total!!Real suck feeling!! Was playing those Super respin machines at L1. Nothing at all...nothing at all only with full of irritating sounds!!! Fedup!!

I dont think will be able to recover what I have lost there but only to bite the bullets and apply for a self exclusion next week. Think this is the only way to stop myself to patrons these 2 IRS here!!

Take care man...

jjcc888
22-04-2011, 03:31 PM
hi JJCC,

Lucky u.. i didnt receive any email for complimentary Air Supply ticket.. not sure if can call to reserve though.. hahaha.. do u need to quote any number?

No - just call the number stated in email and give them membership no. when asked
Guess they must already have the list in their computers
If change mind and not going must inform them 2 Days in advance or else PD200 will be deducted
(I now have over 5k points & PDs)

Medoil - that means they must be giving random tickets to selected small-time players too
Yes - Free Lion King tickets for ALL would be great !!!!

jjcc888
22-04-2011, 05:16 PM
I meant to go MBS tonight BUT this morning while crossing the road came across this grey-robed NUN ! :confused: :eek: :(
SIGHZZZZ .... hope a Nun's Bad-Luck-Causing Effect is minimal compared with coming across a MONK (in grey/saffron robes)
Or that my Supposed-Luckiest April Day can 'overcome all bad-luck thingies etc' :o ;)

Think I'll go MBS straight after work
ie cancel my Spa treatment bc still not quite well [no more runny nose but bad sore throat now from the Flu tablets] :D

NUTS - am typing this a 2nd time as somehow my finger touched something and everything typed out disappeared !!!:eek::confused:

1st of all - I can well empathise with bros blackhole & slotloser as I myself have had MANY MANY losing nights/trips too (but I won't bother with any self-exclusion)

Anyway am glad to report that somehow the Stars etc seemed more powerful than any evil bad-luck forces such as seeing a Nun etc (at least until around 2am Fri AM !!!)

I went to MBS with less than $900 capital
($400 for Thurs hoping to keep the $450 spare for Sat :rolleyes: :confused:)

Spent several $50 notes at the CashExpress slots
(my fav Fortune King & Kia's mute-now-not-so-mute 5 Dragon)
NO GOOD at all - so stopped to have dinner at Tong Dim (soya milk not orange juice)

After dinner went over to Main Entrance Slot Area
played a couple of my Diamonds&Roses slots - also NO GOOD at all
Imagine had a 30 Free Game at 3x - got lousy low payout credits !

When I noticed that Kia's Standalone 5KOI was free, quickly printed ticket and dashed over
That 5KOI was the STAR slot for me that Thurs night !
Imagine from just one $50 note I 'grew' that to a final $2,110 ticket ! :D
I printed out the tickets each time there was a significant win ($50 upwards) and RE-INSERTED those tickets to continue play .... except for a few rounds when the amounts went downwards instead, on the whole it was a pretty smooth climb upwards - did PUSH it somewhat
BUT once 2k+ reached told myself BETTER STOP as also MUST go toilet bc bladder at near bursting point after playing non-stop for over 4 hours there :p

The MOST LOGICAL thing to do after that was to RUN
But knowing me - as I don't expect to pop by on Fri later and/or maybe also Pushing my Luck etc .... at the end decided on my usual overniter till the next morning after breakfast or before/after lunch
I REALLY must re-examine my head on this - Why do this AGAIN when it has ALWAYS failed 99% of the time ? :rolleyes: :mad:

Started off with the BEST of Intentions & Plans
Put aside original capital sum for Sat - to only play with winnings for the rest of the night/trip
We know what happens then
Went to CashExpress & Fafafa slots ---- NO Good again as ALL Losses
BUT I did have a Nice Time trying out the 1ct Magic BUTTERFLY Slot (Never got Free Game at all tho' !!!!)
BUT when I played the 2 Shenlong slots at the HighLimit Area, I DID manage to recover my ShenLong losses there from one Surprising <$300 Win (playing at just 20-30 lines $2/3)
After that lost $50-100 at the WOF slots
Then back to my Diamonds&Roses - NO Good still
Of course by then I was dipping into the 'reserved for Sat playing capital' !!!

Decided to go back to that lucky 5KOI slot
The MAX that I managed to push the winnings to was just above $500 for the 2nd Round as it went all the way downhill until ZERO :o :(
I guess by then I was just too 'exhausted and not in right frame of mind' and bothered by the smoke from an inconsiderate player etc
I could well have stopped at just after the $500 level instead of 'senseless continued play'

For Sat I'll need to do an ATM WD to add-on to my miserable balance $300+ capital
(Yup - $850 to $2110 to only $300 !)

This April Month the Cosmic constellations/stars are clashing with each other - so a very volatile 'bad' month for most of us
I'm very likely not to step into MBS Casino after this Sat trip as I'll have Caution Days coming (it depends again tho' ....) but I need to do a 2nd RWS Trip for the month !

Actually on these 'pantang things', I depend most on my personal jade 'pishu' from Taiwan (this is small enough to stuff into my bra if needed for much stronger/closer 'protection/battle' hahaha :):D:D
Of course with the Rabbit Year I've also an additional small rooster to fight against the rabbit (but this I've never put in my bra as I'm afraid of things clashing etc - so only safely in my handbag)
On my office desk, I've got a bigger Rooster (actually a Pepper Shaker I got from Europe) and also an Eiffel Tower-Rooster magnet on PC CPU
They serve a Double Purpose - also make for nice decor items :) :D
My motto : Better Be Safe than Sorry !

aurvandil
22-04-2011, 07:57 PM
Bro Blackhole and Bro Slotloser

Sorry to hear about your losses. Do take care. No pt to continue playing if it is no fun anymore and you feel so lousy afterwards.

cheesey
22-04-2011, 08:20 PM
Wah, JJCC u very fierce, even stuff yr pishu into yr bra, damn power liao..wahaha.. omg, that's really hilarious, sorry..haha.

I think, given the chance that u already hit 2k+ winnings, u should really run home straight le, must practise yr discipline lah..

I just back from RWS, lost a few hundred bucks on Miss Kitty (currently my fav game), still quite enjoyable session..

Seeing bro Blackhole n Slotloser thread, i also feel bad for u guys and i also just tabulate my losses since i start playing last August.. Wah, bo dai bo ji i also spend ard 9k+ on casino liao, sibeh heart pain sia..

Lucky nowadays i more discipline le, compare with my beginning period..

Anyway, gambling is like that. As long as able to sustain the losses without borrowing or eating maggi mee, still ok with me..

Me same old advice, win liao agar agar must run home fast..haha.

jjcc888
23-04-2011, 02:15 AM
Wah, JJCC u very fierce, even stuff yr pishu into yr bra, damn power liao..wahaha.. omg, that's really hilarious, sorry..haha.

I think, given the chance that u already hit 2k+ winnings, u should really run home straight le, must practise yr discipline lah..

I just back from RWS, lost a few hundred bucks on Miss Kitty (currently my fav game), still quite enjoyable session..

Seeing bro Blackhole n Slotloser thread, i also feel bad for u guys and i also just tabulate my losses since i start playing last August.. Wah, bo dai bo ji i also spend ard 9k+ on casino liao, sibeh heart pain sia..

Lucky nowadays i more discipline le, compare with my beginning period..

Anyway, gambling is like that. As long as able to sustain the losses without borrowing or eating maggi mee, still ok with me..

Me same old advice, win liao agar agar must run home fast..haha.

Ya lah - agree with you on the points BOLDED in your post !

My pishu-stuffing into bra : nobody can tell so ONLY I (and u) know hahahaha :D:D

Actually the MissKitty slot on the left of Kia's Standalone 5Koi slot I saw also seems to be pretty good as always see OTHER players winning lots (but NOT ME when I tried paying it once/twice tho' !)

OK - just a quick post here before I shower and go out
Going to pay my respects to my deceased ancestors etc at the Memorial Hall and hope I'll also get their good blessings etc for today's Club 500 Draws and all future casino plays and all other stuff in my life (Pao Ka Lioa !) :p :)

Then most probably head to MBS (maybe after some shopping 1st - see how)
Will be back tonight !!!! ;)

aurvandil
23-04-2011, 02:16 AM
Recently I have switched to playing slots. After a fair bit of research and practical experience (I play EVERYWHERE ELSE but the 2 IRs), I have formulated the following hypothesis:

It is NOT TRUE that the payback on slot machines is constant. The payback changes based on the number of lines you play.

This is different from the conventional wisdom in most gambling sites which suggest that it does matter whether you play 1 line or 25 lines.

The reason from the different payback is due to the Wild symbols in the slot.

If you play 1 line, the Wild symbol is only relevant for that 1 line.

If however yopu play 30 lines, the Wild symbol can give a favourable response to 4 to 5 lines.

The probability of getting a Wild symbol is the same regardless whether you play 1 line for whether you play 30 lines.

Unless the probability of getting a Wild symbol changes based on the number of lines you play, it is statistically impossible for the payback to remain constant.

The impact of the Wild symbol is magnified when you consider games with free spins and multipliers. The amount you get from free spining 25 lines 1 credit is always higher than 1 line 25 credits because of the Wild symbol.

The difference in the payback will depend on the type of machine you are playing. If you are playing a machine where you observe that Wild symbol/free spin does not happen very often, then the difference is not very great. However if you are playing a machine where you get Wild/free spin often, then the difference can be significant.

Hence next time when you see uncles/aunties playing all the lines and 1 credit, don't laugh at them. They might not have done advanced statistical analysis and systematic sampling of slot machines to prove thier hypothesis. They however managed to instintively choose the combination that gives them the best odds.

aurvandil
23-04-2011, 02:23 AM
Actually the MissKitty slot on the left of Kia's Standalone 5Koi slot I saw also seems to be pretty good as always see OTHER players winning lots (but NOT ME when I tried paying it once/twice tho' !) ;)

I remember somehwere about an insider sharing. The standalone 5Koi payback is 93%. The hyperlinked 5Koi is 90%.
The difference 3% is what goes into the progressive jackpot.

For "real" slot players like yourselves, it is better to play the stand alone machines. This is because the "1 cents 1 line" type syndicates have insiders among the technical staff of the casino. When the jackpots are "ripe", they will tip off the syndicates who will then send their men to play. In this way, they get a positive expectations game and can "beat the house". It is hard for the casino to take action since the syndicates have a lot of runners and you cannot stop people from playing 1 cent 1 line.

Hence if you play the hyperlinked machines, you are just the sucker feeeding the machines until the progressive jackpot is ripe. When the progressive jackpot is ripe, you will never get a chance to play as the machines will be monopolised by the syndicates.

jjcc888
23-04-2011, 02:53 AM
Hence if you play the hyperlinked machines, you are just the sucker feeeding the machines until the progressive jackpot is ripe. When the progressive jackpot is ripe, you will never get a chance to play as the machines will be monopolised by the syndicates.

I DON'T agree with that at all !

When we're lucky, we CAN get some Good Wins from just the Free Games (not counting the Minis and Minor JPs) alone

Slotloser
23-04-2011, 05:32 AM
Bro Blackhole and Bro Slotloser

Sorry to hear about your losses. Do take care. No pt to continue playing if it is no fun anymore and you feel so lousy afterwards.

Hi Bro,

Thank you!
you are right!! I dont think there is any more fun after losing a big sum of money even with ownself affordability! No point stepping in with phobia and lousy feeling! Many tends not to see S$200-S$300 winnings as the losing amount is locked in the minds!!Ending up what happen???

I will call it a day.

Take care....

Slotloser
23-04-2011, 05:36 AM
Wah, JJCC u very fierce, even stuff yr pishu into yr bra, damn power liao..wahaha.. omg, that's really hilarious, sorry..haha.

I think, given the chance that u already hit 2k+ winnings, u should really run home straight le, must practise yr discipline lah..

I just back from RWS, lost a few hundred bucks on Miss Kitty (currently my fav game), still quite enjoyable session..

Seeing bro Blackhole n Slotloser thread, i also feel bad for u guys and i also just tabulate my losses since i start playing last August.. Wah, bo dai bo ji i also spend ard 9k+ on casino liao, sibeh heart pain sia..

Lucky nowadays i more discipline le, compare with my beginning period..

Anyway, gambling is like that. As long as able to sustain the losses without borrowing or eating maggi mee, still ok with me..

Me same old advice, win liao agar agar must run home fast..haha.

Hi Bro( I hope I am right ),

Thank you!

Discplipine is something many of us know by hard but I called it "extremely hard to exercise" when we are in the field!!! To conclude, if majority can exercise this power, many Casino's could have closed shops.

Take care...

Kia0042
23-04-2011, 06:18 AM
I feel sad when I read bros theblackhole & slotloser's post, please take a long long break bros, take care.
Slot game is a very addictive game, newbie players have most luck on slot play, be careful.

Slot playing is all about LUCK and of course if you have experiences, it helps. This doesn't mean he/she can always win, an experience slot player know how to make his/her bankroll last LONGER, knows which is "good timing" machine and when to apply max bet. There is no tactic at all, unlike table games.

MBS slots
Don't play MAX bet - you have 97% to become a "dry corpse".
Play min to ave bet.

RWS slots
Don't play MIN bet - you have less than 3% chances to win big.
Play ave to Max bet.;)

Slotloser
23-04-2011, 06:40 AM
I feel sad when I read bros theblackhole & slotloser's post, please take a long long break bros, take care.
Slot game is a very addictive game, newbie players have most luck on slot play, be careful.

Slot playing is all about LUCK and of course if you have experiences, it helps. This doesn't mean he/she can always win, an experience slot player know how to make his/her bankroll last LONGER, knows which is "good timing" machine and when to apply max bet. There is no tactic at all, unlike table games.

MBS slots
Don't play MAX bet - you have 97% to become a "dry corpse".
Play min to ave bet.

RWS slots
Don't play MIN bet - you have less than 3% chances to win big.
Play ave to Max bet.;)

Hi Bro,

Thank you!

Yes, I will take a extremely long break atleast for the next 1year.

Cheers & Take care..

aurvandil
23-04-2011, 06:43 AM
MBS slots
Don't play MAX bet - you have 97% to become a "dry corpse".
Play min to ave bet.

RWS slots
Don't play MIN bet - you have less than 3% chances to win big.
Play ave to Max bet.;)

Interesting obs. I have played everywhere but the 2 IRs so I would appreciate your expert insight. How would MAX line 1 credit fare in the respective IRs

jjcc888
23-04-2011, 04:13 PM
SH*IT*$###&****
Another totally BAD Trip today to MBS
LOST ALL my Sat morning-withdrawn fresh $800 + another $400 later :(:mad:
I find somehow it's WORSE during the weekend especially on PUBLIC HOLIDAYS
1st of all - I reached MBS about 3pm by which time almost all the better slots were already taken up .... so no choice but to play whatever 'available slot' and no good spins as such :(

The ONLY Better Slot worthy of mention for the whole of Saturday for me was this brief stint at the 2nd-last slot of the 1st lot of Prosperity Slots (2 Fortune Kings at the end [or middle if you take the WHOLE Row there])
I WAS lucky in the sense that even tho' I was playing 75 credits (rather than 125 credits) for the higher 5FullFishes/Dragons , the fish/dragon/etc on the LAST 5th reel chose to appear in the MIDDLE/Centre Space rather than the 2 Blocked-Out Spaces enabling me to get the FULL CREDITS (ie 4000 credits etc) for such spins MANY TIMES (only wasted/lost out on several times of the lower-paying 9s and a couple of As)

That 'lucky 21st-April' Kia's standalone 5Koi was occupied throughout and I had NO CHANCE at all there

I didn't hold much expectation that my name would get called for the Club 500 Draws but 'hope springs eternal'
As expected, my name wasn't called at all (tho' I did get some crank-call from Malaysia inviting me for some dinner - too noisy to hear properly .... as was busy playing that Prosperity FortuneKing slot)
A very lucky Mr Lim won the $50k top prize for today at the 3pm 1st Draw !!!
I only bothered to witness the last 9pm & 10pm Spinning of the Wheel (as by then feeling very jialat/sian with the losses & lousy slots)

Luckily I remembered to claim my weekly voucher
Had expected a $100 Voucher as distinctly played OVER 100 points on Thurs-Fri BUT the PA Counter lady said the system only showed 98 points and therefore only can claim $40 (2 x $20 vouchers extended to 31st May from April)

Somehow it's just NOT my day [or even gambling month !] ...... :confused: :mad: :(
So today the Natural External Forces won (notwithstanding my pishu etc) :(:(

aurvandil
24-04-2011, 03:09 AM
As mentioned previously, I have been doing some research lately on playing slots. Here is something which will help you determine how long your bankroll will last. You can use it to bring enough $$$ so that you can leave your atm / credit card at home. It also helps you set your expectations correctly on what is win and what is lose.

On average, a person will play 500 to 600 jackpot spins in 1 hour.
Let us assume the maximum value of 600 spins.

Let us say you are playing on a 20 cent machine and you play 25 lines.
The amount per spin is therefore $0.20 x 25 = $5.00.

CRA mandates that the paybackfor jackpot is a minimum of 90%.
If the machine you are playing is set at this value, the amount you can expect to lose per spin is $0.50.

In 1 hour, you can therefore exepct to lose $300.
Hence if you want to play for 4 hours, you shoudl bring a bankroll of 4x$300 = $1200.

A good way to exercise DISCIPLINE is to time the number of hours you are playing.
To do this you can use a stop watch (e.g. the one in your smart phone_. You can start the timer when you sit down and stop it when you need to take a break (much less tedious than counting the number of spins you are making).

If after 4 hours, you have lost less than $1200, you can consider that you had a "winning" session.
If you have lost $1,200 and you play less than 4 hours, you can consider you had a "losing" session.
With your exepctations correctly set, you won't therefore feel lousy when you leave the casino.

cheesey
24-04-2011, 04:07 AM
SH*IT*$###&****
Another totally BAD Trip today to MBS
LOST ALL my Sat morning-withdrawn fresh $800 + another $400 later :(:mad:
I find somehow it's WORSE during the weekend especially on PUBLIC HOLIDAYS
1st of all - I reached MBS about 3pm by which time almost all the better slots were already taken up .... so no choice but to play whatever 'available slot' and no good spins as such :(

The ONLY Better Slot worthy of mention for the whole of Saturday for me was this brief stint at the 2nd-last slot of the 1st lot of Prosperity Slots (2 Fortune Kings at the end [or middle if you take the WHOLE Row there])
I WAS lucky in the sense that even tho' I was playing 75 credits (rather than 125 credits) for the higher 5FullFishes/Dragons , the fish/dragon/etc on the LAST 5th reel chose to appear in the MIDDLE/Centre Space rather than the 2 Blocked-Out Spaces enabling me to get the FULL CREDITS (ie 4000 credits etc) for such spins MANY TIMES (only wasted/lost out on several times of the lower-paying 9s and a couple of As)

That 'lucky 21st-April' Kia's standalone 5Koi was occupied throughout and I had NO CHANCE at all there

I didn't hold much expectation that my name would get called for the Club 500 Draws but 'hope springs eternal'
As expected, my name wasn't called at all (tho' I did get some crank-call from Malaysia inviting me for some dinner - too noisy to hear properly .... as was busy playing that Prosperity FortuneKing slot)
A very lucky Mr Lim won the $50k top prize for today at the 3pm 1st Draw !!!
I only bothered to witness the last 9pm & 10pm Spinning of the Wheel (as by then feeling very jialat/sian with the losses & lousy slots)

Luckily I remembered to claim my weekly voucher
Had expected a $100 Voucher as distinctly played OVER 100 points on Thurs-Fri BUT the PA Counter lady said the system only showed 98 points and therefore only can claim $40 (2 x $20 vouchers extended to 31st May from April)

Somehow it's just NOT my day [or even gambling month !] ...... :confused: :mad: :(
So today the Natural External Forces won (notwithstanding my pishu etc) :(:(

Yr pishu power cannot always counter those casinos feng shui 1 lah..heehee. I heard they spend like millons setting up all the feng shui traps to kill us.. Think only the highest level of feng shui/sorcery power, something like having a thailand "ghost kid 鬼仔" can fight them..

For me play weekend or weekdays not much diff but i prefer to go after 12am.. Something abt the witching hours i can't explain but i do feel the jackpot are abit more erratic or haywired or generous, so as to speak, during this period..

Think JJCC u go take a break lah.. See yr recent threads n agar agar u also lose like wat, 7 or 8k this month le.. Take a good rest and read up some fengshui tips or get more fengshui 法宝 than go back casino to fight again k :D.

Me just lost my job, hence also cannot play too often le.. despite now having more time..keke.

Kia0042
24-04-2011, 04:10 AM
Not sure about $0.20 machine, but if you base on a 2cts machine with $5/bet (250credits) play at:

MBS - 10mins, 10spins/min, machine payout (excl. progresive prize)
95% - $300 gone
4% - $300 survive, stay longer
0.9% - $300 become $1000-$1500
0.1% - $300 become $4,000, Max payout $6000

RWS 10mins, 10spins/min, machine payout (excl. progresive prize)
90% - $300 gone
8% - $300 survive, stay longer.
1.5% - $300 become $1000-$1,500
0.5% - $300 become $4,000, Max payout $10,000

Slot is random, it hardly give you the payout like what you caculated.
The real fact in MBS, even on an average slot play day (not a lousy day), $1,200 hardly last for 4 hours for a $5/spin (250credits).
Another real fact is, less than 10% slot players play 6spins/min, I think ave 10spin/min.

Jester Pete's way, that is MAX bet on one, three, seven lines, one of the most hated slot play habit, big win chances less than 0.1% and lost chances at 99.9%. One out of 1,000 slot players play in this way.

jjcc888
24-04-2011, 10:29 AM
Yr pishu power cannot always counter those casinos feng shui 1 lah..heehee. I heard they spend like millons setting up all the feng shui traps to kill us.. Think only the highest level of feng shui/sorcery power, something like having a thailand "ghost kid 鬼仔" can fight them..

For me play weekend or weekdays not much diff but i prefer to go after 12am.. Something abt the witching hours i can't explain but i do feel the jackpot are abit more erratic or haywired or generous, so as to speak, during this period..

Think JJCC u go take a break lah.. See yr recent threads n agar agar u also lose like wat, 7 or 8k this month le.. Take a good rest and read up some fengshui tips or get more fengshui 法宝 than go back casino to fight again k :D.

Me just lost my job, hence also cannot play too often le.. despite now having more time..keke.

Aiyoh - Take Care - hope u find a Better Job very soon
I know very well what it's like without a job/steady income .... very jialat :(
Have TIME but little/no MONEY .... also can't really move :mad:
The best is a BALANCE of BOTH Money & Time (to enjoy the Money) :):D!
For me now, NOT enough money to enable me to continue as previously with my expensive casino indulgences (since no BIG JP WINs to help sustain hobby too ! :mad:)
Guess can now go VERY MUCH LESS OFTEN or with MUCH LESS CAPITAL ... sighzzz

My personal bazi lucky hours are after 9pm at night
I prefer the weekdays as the crowds are lesser and I agree that during the witching hours the payouts etc seem better as a whole
Tho' of course I have had some good plays in the afternoons etc before 9pm too

BTW - relate u a little story which I put down to my powerful pishu :D ;)
In my previous company about 2 years back (this is a very ngiow company with well-known bad reputation etc in the market but I thought I'd try them out anyway) I was forced to give instant notice of resignation (without having secured a replacement job 1st) after they did their usual annoying miscalculation of leave trick etc upon my return from my Taiwan trip where I'd bought my pishu - I was really so mad/angry with them :mad: :( - forgo bonus etc ....
At the end I have to thank them for making me mad bc it forced me to apply for new jobs etc and I secured a very very much better terms & conditions position immediately :D:):D

Oh ya - from RWS FengShui Thread in the AsianBookie Forum
When you enter RWS Casino - always try to move in by the EXTREME LEFT as much as possible
AND bring some nail-clipper or scissors, needle, small toy hammer, nail, etc to peekchar/burst the fengshui there

Mindless
24-04-2011, 02:45 PM
Not sure about $0.20 machine, but if you base on a 2cts machine with $5/bet (250credits) play at:

MBS - 10mins, 10spins/min, machine payout (excl. progresive prize)
95% - $300 gone
4% - $300 survive, stay longer
0.9% - $300 become $1000-$1500
0.1% - $300 become $4,000, Max payout $6000

RWS 10mins, 10spins/min, machine payout (excl. progresive prize)
90% - $300 gone
8% - $300 survive, stay longer.
1.5% - $300 become $1000-$1,500
0.5% - $300 become $4,000, Max payout $10,000

Slot is random, it hardly give you the payout like what you caculated.
The real fact in MBS, even on an average slot play day (not a lousy day), $1,200 hardly last for 4 hours for a $5/spin (250credits).
Another real fact is, less than 10% slot players play 6spins/min, I think ave 10spin/min.

Jester Pete's way, that is MAX bet on one, three, seven lines, one of the most hated slot play habit, big win chances less than 0.1% and lost chances at 99.9%. One out of 1,000 slot players play in this way.

Thanks Kia and Aruvandil for the enlightening views.

Aruvandil's method is how I used to decide how much capital I bring to Genting in the past. I will first work out how much time I will be in the casino. Then decide how many spin/min. Then decide how much to bet/spin to work out how much I will need. Of course what I didnt factor in was how much the machine will payout because I assumed the worst case.

I think both Kia and Aruvandi's method have their logic. In fact, Aruvandil"s method would be more scientific. But unfortunately, because we only play a couple of hours max on any particular machine, hence I dont think the sample size would be significant enough to achieve the payout rate of 90-93%.

Thus, the payout pattern will probably be closer to what Kia has he case because when we used the 90-93% payout rate, that is the statistic over a very very long period of time. But when we play on any particular slot machine, we are only there for max a couple of hours and we will not be able to acheive the kind of statistics due to the short duration. So, the pattern that we see will be more eractic and less predictable, with hugh upsides/downsides that Kia has painted. That is also the reason why I assumed worst case (ie zero payout) when working out my budget.

Cheers.

aurvandil
24-04-2011, 03:11 PM
I think both Kia and Aruvandi's method have their logic. In fact, Aruvandil"s method would be more scientific. But unfortunately, because we only play a couple of hours max on any particular machine, hence I dont think the sample size would be significant enough to achieve the payout rate of 90-93%.

Actually you don't have to play all that many hours in order to converge to the long term payout of 90% to 93%.

The key here is lowering the volatility of the game. To do this, you:

1) Maximise the number of lines you play
2) Choose machines that are not hyperlinked
3) Choose machines that do not have large differnces between 3/4 vs 5 of a kind. A good ratio is 5 to 10.

I did a lot of time trails over in Genting Malaysia. Playing max lines on low vol machines, I have found that you can converge to the theoratical payout set by the casino in 30 mins to 45 mins of continuous play. Beyond this time, you hardly get any significant variations in the payout. Also I have found that beyond behing more consistent, the payouts are almost always higher statistically when you play all the lines as opposed to playing a small number of lines.

I can understand the disconnect Bro Kia has with my findings. Unless you are using a stop watch, it is very easy to lose track of time in a casino. Also very few people actaully play 4 hours in 1 go at 1 stretch. Most of the time, we walk around looking for machines, talk with friends, makan etc. With my trusty stop watch, I have found that it takes me almost 6 hours to clock in 4 hours of continuous play. More so if my frens are losing and drag me off to drink, smoke, talk cock etc.

aurvandil
25-04-2011, 02:19 AM
In the course of doing my research in Genting Malaysia, I also found that the payback tends to increase based on the base value of the machine.

The 1 cent and 2 cent machines have a payback of around 83% to 88%.
The 5 cent and 10 cent machines have a payback of 88% to 93%.

I have not done any research so far on higher demoination machines. The above payback was achieved for those low vol machines mentioned earlier with all of the lines played.

Hence if you are small time player, you will do much better playin x line 1 credit on a 10 cent machine vs x line 5 credit on a 2 cent machine.

Kia0042
25-04-2011, 06:13 AM
In the course of doing my research in Genting Malaysia, I also found that the payback tends to increase based on the base value of the machine.

The 1 cent and 2 cent machines have a payback of around 83% to 88%.
The 5 cent and 10 cent machines have a payback of 88% to 93%.

I have not done any research so far on higher demoination machines. The above payback was achieved for those low vol machines mentioned earlier with all of the lines played.

Hence if you are small time player, you will do much better playin x line 1 credit on a 10 cent machine vs x line 5 credit on a 2 cent machine.

High domin slots ($0.50/$1/$10/$100) has higher payout percentage which is true, I used to play at RWS and mostly win money but it was very stressful so I quit sometimes ago. The high domin slots at RWS are mostly by Bally (fruit machines with 777, Bar,bar,bar) which I don't quite like them.
As for MBS high domin slots ($1) mostly by IGT, they don't seems to payout higher hor, don't touch them unless you have too much money and no where to spend!

Mindless
25-04-2011, 07:09 AM
High domin slots ($0.50/$1/$10/$100) has higher payout percentage which is true, I used to play at RWS and mostly win money but it was very stressful so I quit sometimes ago. The high domin slots at RWS are mostly by Bally (fruit machines with 777, Bar,bar,bar) which I don't quite like them.
As for MBS high domin slots ($1) mostly by IGT, they don't seems to payout higher hor, don't touch them unless you have too much money and no where to spend!

Between 2c and 5c, I will prefer 5c - somehow I find that the 2c is more difficult to trigger feature games. Even when it triggers, the feature game may not turn out well - comparing the amt of capital put in vs the payout from bonus.

I have tried some 10c in RWS. But it is very capital intensive. 1 credit at max 25 lines is $2.5. 2 credit is $5. Assuming that we play 2 credits per line ($5/spin), a capital of $1000 translated to ~200 spin. Assuming 10 spin a min, it can only last 20min! So for that short 20min, all your stars must be aligned if you want to try your luck on higher denomination machines.

So far, my personal preference are still Aristocrat and very occasionally some IGT and Aruze games. Bally, Atronic, WMS and Konami I somehow just dont like to play them.

aurvandil
25-04-2011, 11:44 AM
Between 2c and 5c, I will prefer 5c - somehow I find that the 2c is more difficult to trigger feature games. Even when it triggers, the feature game may not turn out well - comparing the amt of capital put in vs the payout from bonus.

I have tried some 10c in RWS. But it is very capital intensive. 1 credit at max 25 lines is $2.5. 2 credit is $5. Assuming that we play 2 credits per line ($5/spin), a capital of $1000 translated to ~200 spin. Assuming 10 spin a min, it can only last 20min! So for that short 20min, all your stars must be aligned if you want to try your luck on higher denomination machines.

I don't know how it is in RWS but over in Genting Malaysia, there is the payback difference between 2 cent and 5 cent machines. There doesn't however seem to be very much difference in the payback between the 5 cent and 10 cent machines.

somewhat coincidentally, the 5 cent machines are the most popular in Genting Malaysia. The 1 cents/2cent and 10 cent rows of machines are always a lot less crowded than the 5 cent machines. I don't think many people did systematic statistical hypothesis testing but rather came to this conclusion through experience and instinct.

My personal favourite configuration which I feel gives me the best odds/capital is therefore 25 lines x 1 credit on a 5 cent machine.

Also I found that you can lower the volatility further by varying the time you play based on the number of lines offered. I use 30 lines as a base.

For a 30 line machine, I will use my stopwatch to time 30 mins of play.
For a 25 line machine, I will time for 36 mins.
For a 20 line machine, I will time for 45 mins.

Mindless
25-04-2011, 02:48 PM
I don't know how it is in RWS but over in Genting Malaysia, there is the payback difference between 2 cent and 5 cent machines. There doesn't however seem to be very much difference in the payback between the 5 cent and 10 cent machines.

somewhat coincidentally, the 5 cent machines are the most popular in Genting Malaysia. The 1 cents/2cent and 10 cent rows of machines are always a lot less crowded than the 5 cent machines. I don't think many people did systematic statistical hypothesis testing but rather came to this conclusion through experience and instinct.

My personal favourite configuration which I feel gives me the best odds/capital is therefore 25 lines x 1 credit on a 5 cent machine.

Also I found that you can lower the volatility further by varying the time you play based on the number of lines offered. I use 30 lines as a base.

For a 30 line machine, I will use my stopwatch to time 30 mins of play.
For a 25 line machine, I will time for 36 mins.
For a 20 line machine, I will time for 45 mins.

Hey Aurvandil, I like the way you have made slots playing into maths and science lab class.
You are probably the second person I have seen doing "research" while playing slots. There was once I saw a man playing in RWS Island delight. He carried a piece of paper and seemed to be jotting down machine number, payout and credits each time he plays.....machiam physics lab lesson. He is probably also doing some kind of research.

Have fun testing your hypothesis :) I like the idea because it allows you to maintain decipline and exercise control instead of going by gut feel and get cheated by the "feature is coming soon" teaser.

cheesey
25-04-2011, 06:16 PM
Aiyoh - Take Care - hope u find a Better Job very soon
I know very well what it's like without a job/steady income .... very jialat :(
Have TIME but little/no MONEY .... also can't really move :mad:
The best is a BALANCE of BOTH Money & Time (to enjoy the Money) :):D!
For me now, NOT enough money to enable me to continue as previously with my expensive casino indulgences (since no BIG JP WINs to help sustain hobby too ! :mad:)
Guess can now go VERY MUCH LESS OFTEN or with MUCH LESS CAPITAL ... sighzzz

My personal bazi lucky hours are after 9pm at night
I prefer the weekdays as the crowds are lesser and I agree that during the witching hours the payouts etc seem better as a whole
Tho' of course I have had some good plays in the afternoons etc before 9pm too

BTW - relate u a little story which I put down to my powerful pishu :D ;)
In my previous company about 2 years back (this is a very ngiow company with well-known bad reputation etc in the market but I thought I'd try them out anyway) I was forced to give instant notice of resignation (without having secured a replacement job 1st) after they did their usual annoying miscalculation of leave trick etc upon my return from my Taiwan trip where I'd bought my pishu - I was really so mad/angry with them :mad: :( - forgo bonus etc ....
At the end I have to thank them for making me mad bc it forced me to apply for new jobs etc and I secured a very very much better terms & conditions position immediately :D:):D

Oh ya - from RWS FengShui Thread in the AsianBookie Forum
When you enter RWS Casino - always try to move in by the EXTREME LEFT as much as possible
AND bring some nail-clipper or scissors, needle, small toy hammer, nail, etc to peekchar/burst the fengshui there

Hey JJCC , thks for sharing your jobless experience and glad that it turns out well for u.

Actually i sack my ang mo boss, not lost my job, cos very unhappy over how he run things, basically treating my department as "Sick man of Asia" kind of mentality, state this for clarity sake :).

Luckily i'm a simple man, no job just means less spending on luxury items as well as lavish lifestyle (thats why going to the casino lesser), no big deal cos i'm from a poor family to begin with :D.

I might be doing some travelling and Taiwan is on my list too.. So if i really go there, i will make sure i buy 1 powerful pishu there and bring back.. maybe will turn out lucky as u..haha.

Good luck with your spins and may the JP get ya..:p

Kia0042
26-04-2011, 02:52 AM
There was once I saw a man playing in RWS Island delight. He carried a piece of paper and seemed to be jotting down machine number, payout and credits each time he plays.....machiam physics lab lesson. He is probably also doing some kind of research.



I know this old man, he is a retired NTU professor, and now, he is known as Professor Slot. He plays max bet, 5Koi and always pick 10 free spins.

Take a break and go travelling, chessey, go wherever you want to go. Relax and recharge, get a new job after your holiday. Now "hang cheng" good, can find jobs easily lah. ;)

BTW, what is "pisha"?? something that can put inside the bra?? :confused:

cheesey
26-04-2011, 03:24 AM
I know this old man, he is a retired NTU professor, and now, he is known as Professor Slot. He plays max bet, 5Koi and always pick 10 free spins.

Take a break and go travelling, chessey, go wherever you want to go. Relax and recharge, get a new job after your holiday. Now "hang cheng" good, can find jobs easily lah. ;)

BTW, what is "pisha"?? something that can put inside the bra?? :confused:

Bro Kia, "BTW, what is "pisha"?? something that can put inside the bra?? ", my god, i can't stop laughing..wakaka...haha, ok , alright.

U can read here more about Pi shu here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixiu.

Kia0042
26-04-2011, 04:42 AM
Bro Kia, "BTW, what is "pisha"?? something that can put inside the bra?? ", my god, i can't stop laughing..wakaka...haha, ok , alright.

U can read here more about Pi shu here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixiu.

Wah kor! How did jjcc put that inside her bra???!!! I am curious! That must be terribly uncomfortable. I imagine either her pisha is very small or sponge made, otherwise how can she squeeze it in between her "river". :D The pisha animal surely get distracted by the "environment" lah, cannot release power anymore, haha.

jjcc888
26-04-2011, 05:07 AM
Wah kor! How did jjcc put that inside her bra???!!! I am curious! That must be terribly uncomfortable. I imagine either her pisha is very small or sponge made, otherwise how can she squeeze it in between her "river". :D The pisha animal surely get distracted by the "environment" lah, cannot release power anymore, haha.

My jade pishu is the 'mini-sized' one
And "protected" within its red drawstring velvety-cloth satchel with Wan Xi Lu Yi words :D :) :D
It's NOT at all uncomfortable when I do choose to insert it in my bra

Hmmmm .... maybe I should take my pishu out of its satchel ???? :p ;) :rolleyes: :o

Saw that Taiwanese FengShui Master had a pair of the pishus 'hanging/dangling' from outside his pants pocket - much like those old-style watches (he said the pishus must NOT be touched by outsiders especially malicious enemies etc ....)
They tried to get me to buy the BIGGER versions then
I told them 'let me try out with the mini one 1st, if it works I'll then get the bigger ones when I next drop by' :)

cheesey
26-04-2011, 06:14 AM
Wah kor! How did jjcc put that inside her bra???!!! I am curious! That must be terribly uncomfortable. I imagine either her pisha is very small or sponge made, otherwise how can she squeeze it in between her "river". :D The pisha animal surely get distracted by the "environment" lah, cannot release power anymore, haha.

Omg, that's super funny..wahaha.. i really can't stop laughing... Damn hilarious lah bro kia :).

Mindless
26-04-2011, 08:14 AM
I know this old man, he is a retired NTU professor, and now, he is known as Professor Slot. He plays max bet, 5Koi and always pick 10 free spins.

Yes. He does look like a professor (his hair). I remembered once at Island Delight, I gave up playing one of the 5 Koi and he took over. He played max and managed to get a very good feature run. I shaked my head and walked off......as I could not bear to see more.

This afternoon, I witnessed someone won the Major JP $12k at Train Express (RWS) - 4 trains adding up to 46 points. Lucky lady :)

I was lucky too. Managed to leave the place with some winnings (could have been more but as usual, must give back some until I force myself to leave, before I start to regret.....)

Cheers.

CoffeeMe
28-04-2011, 05:53 AM
Seems April is a bad month for everyone. Bro Blackhole and Slotloser and sis JJCC, pls take care. It won't be a fun game anymore with such a heavy lost. It was so many times, bringing ATM cards will ends with heavy lost. Before entering casinos, we might tell ourself not to withdraw once we lost our losing target, but everytime we lost that target, our mind will automatically instructs "maybe withdraw few hundred to win back what i've lost" but end up lost both initial and the withdraw $. Then we get mad. And lost control. So many times this kind of scenario happened to me that i am so scared of bringing any ATM cards to casino. Yes, the feeling is sucks when lost, but it will be more sucks if lost more. What i did to prevent this kind of thing to happen; i have two wallets. 1 for daily stuff, another one for casino which only comes with cash, IC and PD card. I know i will surely go to casino every one or two days, so i will withdraw money during daytime. Or i will die die withdraw and leave the ATM cards in the baggage counter.
This month, me myself lose my pants badly. Getting paranoid entering the casino. Since back from short holiday last week, been to casino every night. Sunday night was ok, but greedy and resulted as usual; lost the initial winnings + capital. Monday and Tuesday was good as lost only $200 manage to accumulate 32 points. Yesterday almost lost again. Win such a minimum capital of $500, almost lost it all, till the last $40 with 150credits play, manage to trigger feature, the choose 20free games. Good payout of $600+ as hit 5 qilin. Play one more machine won another $50 and call it a night. After losing so much, win a few hundred is good enough. Dun want to risk it anymore.
Another thing that i think, weekdays is harder to win much, the most few hundred. After that if dun want to go home, confirm lost it back.

pommefrite
28-04-2011, 07:07 AM
does any bro/sis here know which casino has Monopoly slot machine, I think they are made by WMS (CMIIW) ? which monopoly themes are available?

also i notice that many of you like to play in smoking section, are the machines in non-smoking not paying out good?

sorry for the newbie questions...gonna be 1st time visiting RWS & MBS and I won't have much time playing

jjcc888
28-04-2011, 07:39 AM
I have been relatively good (so far) this week ;) :p
Have not stepped into the casino (with the several days of caution here !)
Except for Mon night I was/will be 'kept occupied either at the Spa or at Hair Salon' for treatments from Tues-Thurs night !

BUT I'll likely cancel my Fri PM Spa appointment to do my 2nd RWS trip for this month (to fulfill minimum Promo obligations) and to play the minimum 25 points there
So hope can have DISCIPLINE and NOT stay too long (NO overniter to Sat AM etc & NO FURTHER ATM WDs !!!!)

Think NO POINT going to RWS on crowded weekends and Mon 2/5 Public Holiday {likely get poor payouts and lose more - Sat is yet another Caution Day for me !!! ??} : intend to do some shopping catching-up etc with friends during this Sat - Mon :) :D
Hmmm .... come to think of it I'd 'escaped' the CNY Feb 'bad period' as I was away on holiday but didn't escape the bad April month !

MAY seems to be a much better month for me
With THREE "Auspicious" Days on the 3rd, 15th & 27th !
Again I hope these INCLUDE money luck in addition to just 'romance' etc
Could really do with some much BIGGER JP WINS leh ! :rolleyes:

Slotloser
28-04-2011, 10:35 AM
Monopoly Slots - RWS ( Non smoking area )

Slotloser
28-04-2011, 10:49 AM
Thanks CoffeeMe!!
I dont think its only April been a bad month for many slots lover here but infact many bad months are there ever since these 2 IRs were launch last year. Human nature lah...who enjoys losing money right?? Once we know that we still have some funds in our bank for SURE will want to draw some out to fight back!!If I dont remember wrongly, one of the bro was saying he had left his ATMs cards at home and when he losses all his money,went all the way back home to withdraw the money and goes back to the casino to fight again!It doesnt make a different if oneself brings along or doesnt with their atms card!
"Disclipine" is something all of us know well! Sad thing is how many can really stick to it???
If can, dont ever step into these casino anymore. Then we will be the real winner....

Good Luck...

justl00king
28-04-2011, 12:06 PM
Very hard to win money from the casinos.

No matter how big your windfall, sooner or later will give back all and plus some more! :)

pommefrite
29-04-2011, 01:41 AM
Monopoly Slots - RWS ( Non smoking area )

Thanks a lot ! do you happen to know which monopoly slot they have? Up UP Away? Grand Hotel? Viva La Monopoly? Anyway I am going to have a lot of fun playing these thx !

Kia0042
29-04-2011, 04:22 AM
Thanks a lot ! do you happen to know which monopoly slot they have? Up UP Away? Grand Hotel? Viva La Monopoly? Anyway I am going to have a lot of fun playing these thx !

Both IRs have monopoly.
Well, I think not many of us here fond of WMS so we don't really take note of the game titles.

Was at MBS last evening, saw a lady won JP2 about 11.5k at 9PM+ from player's choice machine (back facing Atronic machine). The grand JP1 is 88k, anytime "drop".

Slotloser
29-04-2011, 08:35 AM
Thanks a lot ! do you happen to know which monopoly slot they have? Up UP Away? Grand Hotel? Viva La Monopoly? Anyway I am going to have a lot of fun playing these thx !

Hello Pommefrite,

Yup, Bro Kia is right!! I am not a fan of Monopoly slots so cant be bother which type they belongs to.....oops...I didnt even notice there are Monopoly slots in MBS as well???

Cheers

pommefrite
29-04-2011, 11:31 AM
It's ok, I'll check them out myself :). I know people say monopoly slots don't pay much but it's still fun (at least, for me :P)

jjcc888
29-04-2011, 04:57 PM
Tonight Fri I'm VERY DISCIPLINED ....
didn't do an overniter as am back home so early !

This Friday reached RWS around 3pm+ ..... noticed that Fullhouse Restaurant is no more as taken over by Prosperity Court (which is boarded up and renovations/upgrading going on)

Most slots already occupied at Island Delight
BUT luckily at last row was this free 5Koi slot
Only played that earning 15 points before switching over to aisle Fortune King slot 2 places away on same last row where I spent many hours

My playing capital was 1k for today
At 5Koi slot highest gain ever reached was $200-300 before it dropped to Minus $500-600 (ie lost half my capital)
Fared much better at the outer Fortune King slot (one of my favs there)
Slowly & steadily with some pretty responsive free games managed to 're-grow' my lost capital - thinking that the Free Wheel Spin Promo was still on I played until just before 10.20pm (as last Wheel Spin must be done by 10.30pm)

Printed out my $1600 ticket (making an eventual gain of $600 tonight) :D
Went to the Members' Counter and discovered no more Wheel Spin Promo
They now have some Mega 3-Digit Lottery Draw - matching the Daily 3 numbers - with every 10 points earned .... BUT this ends at 8pm daily !!!! So I missed out with my earned points today :(:o

Anyway while I was playing at the 5Koi slot, I was approached to sign on for the Slot Competition (no idea of details then - but from Brochure seems its Hot Shot Progressive - hey anyone an expert with Hot Shot : some TIPS pls)
The lady suggested I do it twice (ie 3 GPs x 2 tries) and chose Vesak Day so no need to take leave (Final on 27 May - see whether I qualify 1st for Semi & Final)

Tonight I was really VERY DISCIPLINED
Only played total 2 slots this trip at Island Delight
After I changed my 16 $100 notes into $50s, forced myself NOT to go towards the Diamonds&Roses slots etc and NOT to touch other slots
Had my late dinner and took bus & MRT home
Had to take midnite taxi from MRT Station as likely that was the LAST feeder bus that I'd narrowly missed !!!

Have shopping and tea plans for Sat tomorrow
Hope my DISCIPLINE and ITCH is controllable - NO casinos Sat - Mon !!! :p :o

Next 'luckier gambling' day will be next Tues 3rd May
Very likely to head for MBS after my Tues Spa treatment

CoffeeMe
30-04-2011, 01:24 AM
Jjccc, its good to hear your dicipline improved :) better still with winning. At least this time thread not about your losing experience again :) keep it up!
My friday was bad, reached MBS at 6.30pm and all the 5 dragons and fortune king occupied, can't believe, as usually (weekdays) they are mostly available. Anyway, wait abt 15mnts just to lose $1k. :(

CoffeeMe
01-05-2011, 06:21 AM
Lost 1k yesterday. Bad weekend and crowded. Phew!:(

samcw2
01-05-2011, 08:13 AM
Ok, own up, who win the $24k @ MBS 1 cent bank buster last friday at 10 pm :D

jjcc888
01-05-2011, 10:07 AM
Ok, own up, who win the $24k @ MBS 1 cent bank buster last friday at 10 pm :D

Not YOU meh ?
Definitely not me bc not stepping into the casinos this Sat to Mon !!!
Yesterday Sat spent quite a bit on a mini shopping spree

Hey samcw2 - I need your tips/input on How Best to Play Hotshot Progressive
Best Techniques etc etc etc for just 5 mins game with $100 + Max Topup credit $200 during last 2 mins only (But Final Score will exclude the Topup Value).
TQ in advance
I'm entering RWS Preliminary for the Daily Slot Competition (just for fun) & need some HELP here as I hardly touch the HotShot slots !

jjcc888
01-05-2011, 10:10 AM
Lost 1k yesterday. Bad weekend and crowded. Phew!:(

That's why I said - if possible don't go during crowded weekends & Public Holidays

samcw2
02-05-2011, 09:08 AM
Not YOU meh ?
Definitely not me bc not stepping into the casinos this Sat to Mon !!!
Yesterday Sat spent quite a bit on a mini shopping spree

Hey samcw2 - I need your tips/input on How Best to Play Hotshot Progressive
Best Techniques etc etc etc for just 5 mins game with $100 + Max Topup credit $200 during last 2 mins only (But Final Score will exclude the Topup Value).
TQ in advance
I'm entering RWS Preliminary for the Daily Slot Competition (just for fun) & need some HELP here as I hardly touch the HotShot slots !

Not me leh, I got the cop out feature abt the same time, too bad no luck, unable to climb to grand jackpot .......
No technic, pure luck only :)

jjcc888
02-05-2011, 09:13 AM
Not me leh, I got the cop out feature abt the same time, too bad no luck, unable to climb to grand jackpot .......
No technic, pure luck only :)

Max lines - HOW MANY CREDITS best to play for such short 5 min game huh ??
Need I do any VARIATION etc ?????

Kia0042
03-05-2011, 04:54 AM
Lost week @MBS again. :(
Making a trip to RWS this evening, it has be a while not seeing my "old friends" at Island Delight.:)

sadsad
03-05-2011, 11:59 AM
dear all,
i had been following this thread for a while already. please stop while you can, before its too late. for me,i had reach the stage that i cannot turn back anymore and the only way out is to end it all. remember gambling is like a cancer, i wish all well.

jjcc888
03-05-2011, 05:46 PM
Lost week @MBS again. :(
Making a trip to RWS this evening, it has be a while not seeing my "old friends" at Island Delight.:)

So you're renewing your RWS Annual Levy huh ?

Shucks .... lost at least 1k tonight at MBS :(
(so much for so-called 'auspicious day' : maybe more for romance only as usual ???)
Just played 2 CashTrain Express FortuneKing slots and briefly $50 stint at Panda slot (No one at the whole row of Aruze Rescue slots - should have taken the hint from that & stayed away!)
Overall lost badly inspite of getting one over-$400 Minor JP
(Maybe I was just too stubborn persisting at playing 150/125/75 credits ....)
I could have minimised my losses IF I had left earlier - had $500 and $300+ tickets etc which I played till all gone and dug into wallet for more $50s too
The CashTrain Grand JP now 97k (noticed that Fafafa Grand JP now $114k too)

Around 5 pm my left eye twitched badly - 2 short brief stints
I was wondering what to make of that :confused:
Maybe I should have joined you Kia over at RWS instead of going to MBS tonight 3rd May .... since I enjoyed my last RWS play much more than tonight's play over at MBS somehow !!!

This May month MBS has this Slot Bonus Promo
As usual TOO LATE for me to redeem my almost 40points earned tonight
as LATEST Timing for redemption is Before Midnight and as usual I only became aware of such before 1 am !!!**%% SIGHZZZZ

I guess no further casino trips for me until next week or so ??
Must really stretch my now-limited-casino-budget somehow :o

CoffeeMe
04-05-2011, 03:48 AM
Was at MBS at 3pm monday. Manage to win back $600 from last sat lost of $1k. After playing for 4hrs, give up once bad feature struck. Then saw one lady play 450credits win feature of 60k credits somemore + extra feature. But few hours later saw her withdrawing $$.

Mindless
04-05-2011, 08:34 AM
\. Then saw one lady play 450credits win feature of 60k credits somemore + extra feature. But few hours later saw her withdrawing $$.

Congrats on your winning.

Just some observations:
1) There seems to be more woman playing slots than man.
2) There seems to be more agressive woman players (betting at 150-300 credits on 5c)

At 450/bet, a 60k credits is only worth 133 spins =>translate to 13 mins of play (assuming 10 spins/min)! So it is not surprising if she needs to withdraw, unless she is really lucky (Some people do).

I was at RWS Tue evening. A lot of people were chasing "Where's the Gold" JP2 prize of $9k due to drop (max 10k). Some people were betting 300 credits/bet, inserting $50 notes after every 3 spins. At that rate, even if kanna the JP, I think the winning (net of the capital) is probably closer to a breakeven. Moreover, there is no sure win.

Cheers and good luck to all.

CoffeeMe
04-05-2011, 09:19 AM
Hi Jjcc, may i know what slot bonus u are refering to? All i know is the spring spree lucky draw on 20-23may. Thanks..:)

aurvandil
04-05-2011, 12:35 PM
For those who go Genting Malaysia or RWS, can you please tell me what kind of video poker machines they have? Thanks.

jjcc888
04-05-2011, 04:07 PM
Hi Jjcc, may i know what slot bonus u are refering to? All i know is the spring spree lucky draw on 20-23may. Thanks..:)

From this MBS Jackpot Bonus - May Slot Bonanza Brochure :
Earn points now and get Bonus Slot Credits (at specific slot machines)
2 - 26 May
Daily Redemption from 10am to 12 midnight (at PA Counter)

Pts Required : Redemption Amount
15 = $5 Bonus Slot Credit
25 = $10 " " "
50 = $25 "
75 = $50 "
100 = $75 "
Bonus Slot Credits are to be used at designated slot machines

Hmmmm ..... doesn't look at all attractive here :(
Would be better if they can award say $45 Bonus Slot Credit for each 15 points earned daily
i.e. 3 to 1


BTW - Spring Spree Finale on 20 - 22 May (NOT 23 May)
Keep getting the stupid 10% discounted Art Museum prices for the Daily Plays :rolleyes: :confused:

Mindless
05-05-2011, 03:06 AM
For those who go Genting Malaysia or RWS, can you please tell me what kind of video poker machines they have? Thanks.

So far, I have not seen any video poker machine in RWS..... maybe I wasnt paying any attention (I'm not a fan). I have got a friend who is a great fan of video poker. He likes to do multiple double up for at least 3-5 hands and seems quite good at it. His arguement is the probability of doubling up is 50-50 (which is very high).

Mindless
05-05-2011, 03:12 AM
Thanks a lot ! do you happen to know which monopoly slot they have? Up UP Away? Grand Hotel? Viva La Monopoly? Anyway I am going to have a lot of fun playing these thx !

Hi, RWS has all above. I tried for a while. Typical WMS style with lots of sound effect and lights. But the payout is not great. Good entertainment though. I only noticed 4-5 machines at the non-smoking area about 1-2 row away from the Alien V Predator machines.

Good luck.

Kia0042
05-05-2011, 03:26 AM
This month promo basically is to attract more people to "feed" those unpopular machines. I haven't try them yet coz the 2cts cashexpress grand jackpot (98k) attracts me more than any other things.;)

Btw, I've put up the layout plan of our favorties 2cts cashexpress slots, it's easier for us to tell which machine we hit the JPs next time. I haven't able to remember the machine numbers. :p

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/kia0047/cashexpress2cts.jpg

Red dots - JP2 (I won)
Green dots - Seen Grand Jackpot won

Mindless
05-05-2011, 04:36 AM
Btw, I've put up the layout plan of our favorties 2cts cashexpress slots, it's easier for us to tell which machine we hit the JPs next time. I haven't able to remember the machine numbers. :p


Wow. Thanks for sharing bro Kia. Unfortunately, I hardly goes MBS.

However recently, since RWS has moved the 5c Cashexpress out to the non-smoking area, I have started to play Cashexpress. In fact, I was lucky to catch 5 Trains recently (for the first time)! Too bad, I didnt get the Grand. Just barely enough to secure the Major which was not very high - $6k (still a sweet outcome!).

Just to share a bit more on catching the 5 Train, I realise that if the machine wants to give you, it will give no matter when you press the stop button. All too often, if the machine doesnt want to give you, regardless how we try, the Train will never stop in the mid row. Also, even if the 5 Trains stop in the middle, there is still no guarantee of securing a Major.

Also to share another observation. Although both Cash Express and Where's the Gold have similar games (eg Fortune King and 5 Dragons), I feel that these games at "Where's the Gold" are relatively easier to trigger the free feature games than at Cash Express. I always have mixed thoughts when playing these games. Do I play hoping to get the feature games or to get the JP? I think there is a difference in play (or cash management) strategy for both. To get the JP, there is no need to max play or bet high, although it appears that max play or high bet will have an edge. If it is just to play for feature games, a mid bet (with max line) is better for a higher potential payout. Of course, most people will say that they want both feature games and JP. I think with a cap playing budget, we need to have a clear mind which type of player we are or want. Any views? Thanks.

Cheers and Good luck.

Kia0042
05-05-2011, 06:14 AM
Yes you are right, Mindless. Cashexpress Jackpot prizes are PRE-PROGRAMMED. No matter how you press or tab or bang on the buttons, if the grand prize is programmed to release from your machine, it will release no matter how.
I managed to stop a few times of 5 trains at both IRs but never win the grand prize before. I won once in Melbourne and that was my first time playing cashexpress and I didn't even know what was going on.... :p
So far I stopped 5x 5trains at RWS, won 1x JP2 at 7k and 10x at MBS also won 1x JP2, my JP2 winning majority won from 4 trains instead of 5.

So, how is the chances of winning the Grand Jackpot when you get 5 trains, from my 16x experiences, I've got :
1 x out of 16x (Grand Jackpot) 6% ( could be lower than 5%)
2x out of 16x (Major Jackpot) 12% ( could be lower than 10%)
13x out of 16x (Minor Jackpot) 81% (could be be higher than 85%)

Mindless
05-05-2011, 08:18 AM
So far I stopped 5x 5trains at RWS, won 1x JP2 at 7k and 10x at MBS also won 1x JP2, my JP2 winning majority won from 4 trains instead of 5.

So I am considered lucky. First time I stopped 5 Trains and I got JP2.

Based on your statistics at MBS vs RWS, I just want to adapt a quote from my friend who is a fan of the Genting Cash Express "The MBS Cash Express' handbrake is more "Jia" than the RWS Cash Express" :D

Have a nice day. Good luck.

slotmania
06-05-2011, 02:06 AM
Hi, RWS has all above. I tried for a while. Typical WMS style with lots of sound effect and lights. But the payout is not great. Good entertainment though. I only noticed 4-5 machines at the non-smoking area about 1-2 row away from the Alien V Predator machines.

Good luck.
Alien V Predator machines, my favourite, you like them too?

Mindless
06-05-2011, 03:57 AM
Alien V Predator machines, my favourite, you like them too?

Hi. I am never a fan of AVP. I do play occasionally if I am in a net win position. Otherwise, I wont touch them because of the inflexible betting line and also to qualify for JP, player needs to max bet ($20/spin?).

Kia0042
06-05-2011, 04:18 AM
I've got all the machine numbers up.;)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll286/kia0047/cashexpress2cts-1.jpg

Mindless
06-05-2011, 06:48 AM
I've got all the machine numbers up.;)

Swee.
Next step is to get people to track stats such as frequency of play and no. of train feature per hr? My own play experience is some machines are just very stubborn and will not trigger train feature at all (regardless how big or small per bet) whereas some others just keep coming :confused:

chobolan
06-05-2011, 04:07 PM
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slotmania
07-05-2011, 04:15 AM
Hi. I am never a fan of AVP. I do play occasionally if I am in a net win position. Otherwise, I wont touch them because of the inflexible betting line and also to qualify for JP, player needs to max bet ($20/spin?).

I do make 5k and 6k on two occassions. start small and if feature run comes then load :D
In one of the runs, the 5 AVP came but i put in 200 credits. if max 400credits, I would have hit the JP - 487k instead got 5k !
JP now almost $1 million~

jjcc888
07-05-2011, 06:04 AM
At Voting Station alamak .... saw a nun today !!!!
Heng that didn't intend to go casino today Sat otherwise very jialat/suay :o :(:confused::p
Hope IF I go MBS/RWS tomorrow Sun or Mon, my luck would be GOOD then
My serial number very very good/auspicious with 2 '8's too - very very nice number but didn't buy 4d bc am not a 4D fan :) :p
keeping that auspicious voting serial number slip in the same place as my 2 Casino Cards & IC - hope some of the 'luck' effect spills over so can win a GOOD JP :D:):D:D

My mom said for convenience : Today Go Vote at 11 am then Eat Lunch out at kopitiam
%%^*** Got to wait & queue - whole process took 40 minutes and damn hot today too - too few fans blowing too :mad: :(
I voted for Change (not that I'm impressed with the Opposition in this ward BUT bc I'm unselfishly voting for ALL other Singaporeans too... as already stated in my Jan post here - after MBT caused my bosses to 'significantly reduce' our last year's bonus etc with his ill-timed Jan announcement of the property cooling measures causing the employees in the company much low morale & losses :(:mad:
(But piece of personal Good News : Bosses THIS week announced that since the 'drop in business in last few months' is 'manageable and not all that painful [since 2010 was a record year too following the Good 2009 Year]', the usual normal 'benefits/plans' will be re-instated :
Hooray - this year's increment will be paid beginning with May salary :D
Fingers crossed it'll be a meaningful increment here for me as I didn't start off with what was being paid to my peers here somehow (altho' compared with previous salary elsewhere it was a significant 30% jump with better terms too ..... I guess I'd 'lost touch of the current market pay' after being unemployed here for some 5 years ... I wished when it comes to salary all us ordinary non-elite Singaporeans can somehow get a 'percentage' of the MIW's obscene 3 Million salary too :p :) :rolleyes:)
Also 'reduced/cut bonus' payout PLUS bringing back the Annual Company Trip (which was cancelled last year)
Our company doesn't pay the bonus one-time : it's spread-out several times throughout the year and ONLY to those who've been there for 12 months - unfortunately they don't quite believe in giving pro-rata bonus to those more than 6month's employees etc)

At the last previous election we went much earlier in the morning (around 9am) and it was a Walk-in Breeze .... NO need to Queue at all .... straightaway can vote and go off

Please .... let me HUAT or WIN significantly on my future casino trips :D:D:D
MUST also have CHANGE FOR BETTER CASINO OUTCOMES mah !!!!


BTW - Kia Great Job on that chart !!!
Slot 185 Players' Choice - ever saw a lady winning 2nd-Tier JP in April
How was your RWS Trip ? Any further TIPs etc etc ???

aurvandil
07-05-2011, 12:43 PM
%%^*** Got to wait & queue - whole process took 40 minutes and damn hot today too - too few fans blowing too :mad: :(
I voted for Change (not that I'm impressed with the Opposition in this ward BUT bc I'm unselfishly voting for ALL other Singaporeans too... as already stated in my Jan post here - after MBT caused my bosses to 'significantly reduce' our last year's bonus etc with his ill-timed Jan announcement of the property cooling measures causing the employees in the company much low morale & losses :(:mad:

Thank you. Of all the demographics, yours has been the hardest to crack. Seeing the message reach you and all of the other ladies of Singapore means that our country has a fighting chance and a future.

aurvandil
07-05-2011, 12:49 PM
So far, I have not seen any video poker machine in RWS..... maybe I wasnt paying any attention (I'm not a fan). I have got a friend who is a great fan of video poker. He likes to do multiple double up for at least 3-5 hands and seems quite good at it. His arguement is the probability of doubling up is 50-50 (which is very high).

Thanks. I think there is a very small bank of video poker machines in Genting with horrible paytables. I was hoping someone had first hand experience as I am keen to compare the payout of slots vs video poker using optimal strategy. I guess they are not popular as there is a high element of skill to play video poker. If you don't play optimal strategy, it sucks your money like a blackhole. If you play optimal strategy, you can get payback of as high as 99.5%. This put the casinos in a thorny fix. If they cater to the novices, they have a to give a paytable that is so generous that it can be exploited by the advantage players. If they give a paytable that is challenging to the advantage players, they make it so tough no one wants to play. I think Genting Malaysia chose option B since I cannot find any discussions on video poker.

jjcc888
07-05-2011, 12:54 PM
No choice but to be extremely kiasu here after the previous unsuccessful attempts to make a Sat reservation at Pizzeria Mozza :( :rolleyes:

Just managed to make my reservation for Sunday 15 May (Before the Air Supply Concert) at 5.15 pm altho' I'd wanted a 5.30-6pm timing
That should be enough time to decide and for them to cook and for us to eat :D:):D:):):D
As usual had to WAIT ages before the call was answered :eek::confused:
Wa they are really SO popular etc

Hmmm according to my chart 15 May supposedly 'auspicious for romance-kind of day' for me
Hope ALSO auspicious for Casino Play (before/after the concert then) :p :)

jjcc888
07-05-2011, 01:14 PM
Thank you. Of all the demographics, yours has been the hardest to crack. Seeing the message reach you and all of the other ladies of Singapore means that our country has a fighting chance and a future.

Hmmm for ONCE somehow .... I see eye-to-eye with you here hahahaha :) :cool: :eek: :D

jjcc888
08-05-2011, 08:21 PM
Sighzzzzz ..... another Loss Trip to MBS today :(
(put it down to 'the Unlucky Nun Effect' ?????)
Did my ATM Withdrawals at POSB Branch BUT saw a NUN again just at MRT Escalator :mad: :( :confused:
How come I get to bump into such with such great frequency ???? !!!!!
Saturday saw one at Polling Station (but didn't intend going to any casino on Sat so that's alright ..... But NOT Today Sunday when I'm making my way to the casino !!!!)
This Sunday is just a "good bazi chance/gambling day for me" not some 'auspicious day' as such - guess can't overcome the Nun Effect !

Reached MBS around 5 pm and played whatever CashExpress slot was available
NO free FortuneKing slots so could only play Players' Choice Fortune Foo
Eventually lost all my $900 playing capital plus the extra in wallet :(:(
Stopped for dinner, then tried playing my fav Diamonds&Roses etc slots
[after doing a $600 further ATM Withdrawal]- only one machine was unoccupied then ... see neighbouring players getting free games like nobody's business - but NOT me !!!
When Kia's standalone 5Koi slot was free, I quickly dashed over to it

This 5Koi slot was the star again for this Sunday night !!!
With the balance leftover from the $600 2nd-tier capital, I managed to 'work' the 5Koi slot to eventually payout $900++
Thus managed to reduce my losses by recovering my initial $900 capital plus $35 (lost altogether some $600+$200 in wallet = $800 - $35)
I had some pretty GOOD Free Games etc but by 3am the 5Koi 'exhausted' itself as it was no longer paying out as such

The Diamonds&Roses slots and the row of slots where the 5Koi is (plus others at that area) have the sticker designating them as the Slot Bonus Slots for the May Slot Bonus Promo
Play and earn your points at these designated slots with the Sticker then go to PA Counter to claim your Slot Bonus Credits
When I checked I was told I had only 6 points so couldn't claim anything yet (the points earned at CashTrain Express do not qualify for this promo)
I didn't bother to do any further claim later as didn't want to give up the 5Koi slot (even at the expense of a full bladder here)

I would want to go again to MBS (or maybe RWS ?) Mon after work tomorrow
then probably rest [only Wed & Thurs are 'good gambling days' this mid-week but I've got my Hair & Spa treatments then] until next 'supposedly auspicious day' on Sun 15 May (the day of the Air Supply concert) ?

BTW - noticed some new Monopoly Slots near CashTrain area and also at Non-Smoking L1 Floor

jw5
09-05-2011, 06:09 AM
If they give a paytable that is challenging to the advantage players, they make it so tough no one wants to play. I think Genting Malaysia chose option B since I cannot find any discussions on video poker.

I like playing video poker, not because the odds of winning are good (they are in fact poor) but because
1. I like playing poker.
2. Dislike interacting with croupier and other players.

Don't think the cards drawn are "fixed", it's possible to get 2 pairs, 3 of a kind, flush or straight quite often. I've even got the occasional straight flush and 4 of a kind, even royal flush once. :)

The problem is when they ask you to double down and pick cards for "high-low". This is when it could be rigged to favour the computer. There have been times when the computer's card is king, you pick low and the card opened is an ace. :(

As a HK guy I met in a Macau casino told me, there's no free lunch.
Btw, he was playing big on the video poker game, but he seldom doubled down more than once. ;)

Never see this game as being able to make money, it's pure entertainment to be played only with money you are prepared to lose. ;)