Living in JB

[horizonhills]

Can see some of it? Hmm, then I reckon it should be 2-storey? Mine is under construction.. 3 storey semis at the Golf which is facing the golf course directly. I am not sure if u are along the same row as mine? Its being constructed now though.


No, can see some of it:) Where are you at.........

[Grago]

Went to the LC AGM today for HH, maybe my haircut didn't help. First thing when i met up with folks there going in for the event, their questions:

1. Where is your father?
2. Are you representing him?
3. Are you really a member?

Funny, suffered so many years and then working 2-3 jobs and finally doing ok. The moment you are doing ok, people give you problems. They ignore you or say behind your back, that guy is here because of his family. Its impossible for someone so young to be here.

I just smiled politely and told them my dad was overseas. They seemed to think that everything i have is from my dad. Well in a way it is for if not for him, i wouldn't be here(born).

Back then, at age 25, i had a Benz, told myself my first car will be this. My pay then was slightly higher than my current now so i always told myself, that was my golden years. Folks though, have a tendancy to always assume people are financed by their dads/family when they see people with nicer cars. I never bullied people in my capacity and always tried to be humble.

Only recently did some relatives know of my past drawn, even then it was by accident. All these years, those who laughed at me when they said they earned 3k a month, i never said anything but congratulated them. They even laughed at me when i took my wife for honeymoon as they thought we didn't have money for a wedding dinner. Even teased us saying how come you no money, go do wedding dinner at void deck lah, no money to buy 3 room flat, buy 2 room lah.

Little did they know, after suffering all these years because of family issues and always being looked down upon, the minute you are doing ok, people turn around and accuse you of being here because of your dad?

Worse, there was a relative who had 2, lets say average kids. She would always say, oh your dad is so good to you guys, drove you guys to school every day, give so much pocket money, he must have let you attend university in order for you to get where you are. My sons are useless because their father is so bad, take their money, use their savings to pay debts, beat them with a hammer, etc. She always side with her sons and never made them face the truth, in the end, her constant cover ups led to her sons becoming worse.

Well, i didn't get to attend school after 15, it was all on my own, my right and left hands still have permanent fractures. Parts of my ligament were even permanently torn.

Lets not even talk about the many debts and getting people out of trouble. I found it ironical that the same people who despised me and my family because of him now attributes all our successes to him.

Worse, some folks here would even boast to us they cover regional, etc. I take the lead from one of my uncles who is always humble despite being an ex GM of many big companies, thats why i always just smiled, never felt tempted to ask the irritating guys if their shiny BMW are from their dad. :)

I would be happy to see people succeeding, even those who are younger. There is no minimum age to achieve success, just because you can only get a semi-d/ bungalow at age 50 does not meant others cannot do it earlier than you. People who are better than you and me number in the tens of thousands and many are younger too. Always get the attitude here and at the clubhouse, are you sure you are the member, isn't your dad coming, how much did your dad buy his house for ah? Oh, its yours? Is it a present from him? Wow, you got tenants, you mean your dads tenants is it? So many cars outside your house, how much did your dad pay for his cars?

Sorry for this rant, need to get it out of my system, after this i am fine as i try not to let people like that bother me. :)

Bro Wuqi, look on the bright side, these people are shocked that a person so young can afford to be in the same company as them, so can't take the shock, in denial. So narrow minded.... Not worth to waste you time thinking about them..... Enjoy your success and rewards that you worked hard for :D


Yes bro AP is our resident food connoisseur. :)
I was about to give you a general direction again but then decided to get
you a detailed one but AP beat me to it.

My apologies for always giving general directions, i always assume
those who can make it here are not the spoonfed type and also as google
is freely available. ;)

Thats because through experience (bad ones), those who ask you
many many many questions ended up chickening out in the end.

My prof told me this is very common as its human nature.

Those was asked me less than 10 questions were the first ones to
come in, some even beating me to it.

No problem, when I am unable to find theinformation, then I ask for more details. Like BH aircon, tried googling it came up with location in Chennai:eek: So thought I had better ask for more info. I like to ask questions to decide my course of action. Then if the 'floor' falls out from under me, I blame no one but myself because I decided based on the infor that I had:)
Like HH, first saw it in an inflight magazine on Singapore Airlines. My wife point it out that it had a CNBC award. Looked nice but I said to her let me research it first and ask around, then we'll see......... Found out that Gamuda developed Kota Kamuning and Kota Permai GC also Valencia with a nine hole golf course. Clincher was the Maybank Open held at Kota Permai GC. Very good reviews ( incl. this thread which I was reading for quite a bit ) and recommendations from friends and colleagues I Singapore. Went to see a couple of times before decided to take plunges!!!!:D So I tend to be the kind of person to ask lots of question and also research before deciding......

[Grago]

Can see some of it? Hmm, then I reckon it should be 2-storey? Mine is under construction.. 3 storey semis at the Golf which is facing the golf course directly. I am not sure if u are along the same row as mine? Its being constructed now though.
No bro. 2 storey enough. Don't think I will have enough breath to climb up the third, thank you:D. Still being built, should be completed by end of year:confused: You'll have a good view when they hold the Iskandar open. Went this year to watch, hot like hell.... but enjoyed myself though BUT would have been much nicer if I had a very cold beer in hand:D Maybe ALL can get togther for a cool drink when All settled in HH:confused:

[horizonhills]

Hi Grago, read about your aircon postings. In Horizon Hills, it could get very hot during the daytime. Best to have more aircons with higher power in your house. For me, I have 1hp aircon in 2 rooms, two 1.5 hp in master bedroom and one of the floor living room. The killers are my living rooms on both storey where I have installed two 4 hp aircon in each floor to power up the spacious living rooms.

I have no complaint regarding hot weather. :) However, my 4 hp aircons are used products which I had transported from my Spore factory because the previous owner did not want to remove it. It cost over S$10k in the market. Just on installation in HH, per unit cost RM 800 ( as compared to the normal RM 150 for normal wall-mounted aircon). Therefore, I would not suggest you guys buy it. If really must, get those wall-mounted 2 hp aircons will be sufficient.. at least install 1 or 2 more to cool the place because installation fee is much lower.

[horizonhills]

Yes the view is indeed panoramic from the now-in-progress Golf semi ds facing the golf course. I must say this is the only main reason why I bought this particular unit. You see about 4-5 years back when I first visit HH showhouse which was at the Gateway, a semi d 3 storey facing the golf course, I was blown away. However, my plight could be very much like our good friend Wuqi.

Then, I am still recovering from a deep mess which is not a fault of mine and I shall not mentioned it as its a long story.

To cut the story short, I had no money even the the unit cost just RM 700+k.. Now the same unit fetches RM 1.2 mil.

Coming to HH at different times of the year is a form of tracking my progress in life. I knew that just 5 years ago I was such a poor bloke. Can only see and admire but no money to even pay a deposit. So whenever I drop by HH to see the same golf course again, it refreshed my past, my first time in HH and why I should work harder for more units in life.
No bro. 2 storey enough. Don't think I will have enough breath to climb up the third, thank you:D. Still being built, should be completed by end of year:confused: You'll have a good view when they hold the Iskandar open. Went this year to watch, hot like hell.... but enjoyed myself though BUT would have been much nicer if I had a very cold beer in hand:D Maybe ALL can get togther for a cool drink when All settled in HH:confused:

[Grago]

Hi Grago, read about your aircon postings. In Horizon Hills, it could get very hot during the daytime. Best to have more aircons with higher power in your house. For me, I have 1hp aircon in 2 rooms, two 1.5 hp in master bedroom and one of the floor living room. The killers are my living rooms on both storey where I have installed two 4 hp aircon in each floor to power up the spacious living rooms.

I have no complaint regarding hot weather. :) However, my 4 hp aircons are used products which I had transported from my Spore factory because the previous owner did not want to remove it. It cost over S$10k in the market. Just on installation in HH, per unit cost RM 800 ( as compared to the normal RM 150 for normal wall-mounted aircon). Therefore, I would not suggest you guys buy it. If really must, get those wall-mounted 2 hp aircons will be sufficient.. at least install 1 or 2 more to cool the place because installation fee is much lower.

HH, thanks for the tip.

[Analytical Professor]

Was at Tesco. Xchange rate 244

[Analytical Professor]

Tesco is known for either not having barcodes or having them wrongly affixed.

There was a toy whose price was abour rm60.

However when i scanned it the price less than rm 15.

What do i do?

Inform Tesco or clear the shelf?

I decided to b Santa Claus to all kids i know. So i cleared the entire shelf.

[wuqi256]

Thanks for sharing Grago, you definitely can make it. You are one of the few then, who asks adequate questions yet act on them. Too many of them in the past, nowadays i just try to keep quiet when they asked me about it.

A friend i still cared a lot for even came and needle me the other day when he thought i would be affected by the scanning of fingers. I just politely told him it doesnt as we have MACS.

[wuqi256]

Tesco is known for either not having barcodes or having them wrongly affixed.

There was a toy whose price was abour rm60.

However when i scanned it the price less than rm 15.

What do i do?

Inform Tesco or clear the shelf?

I decided to b Santa Claus to all kids i know. So i cleared the entire shelf.

Agree with your action, likely they may have some last minute promotion though as one time i bought a dect phone for 90, only for it to come down to 49 as they are clearing stock.(pricing in RM)

Another time, paid 179 for a Skype/Dect phone, then few months later, saw it was 79RM. Didn't need it but bought anyway since they are clearing them.

[wuqi256]

Bro HH, you will definitely make it, i am touched by your past plight as well. You are already doing well, just continue to do what you are doing right. :)

[Grago]

Tesco is known for either not having barcodes or having them wrongly affixed.

There was a toy whose price was abour rm60.

However when i scanned it the price less than rm 15.

What do i do?

Inform Tesco or clear the shelf?

I decided to b Santa Claus to all kids i know. So i cleared the entire shelf.

Oi Santa, the Kids at the orphanage will be expecting you then:D Ho Ho Ho....

[wuqi256]

HH, thanks for the tip.

HH is spot on, actually just buy single units here for each room and get it at least 0.5hp more than the minimum required.
It helps you save money in the long run (depending on models) as once it gets cool enough, it can shut down more often. A lesser powered unit may have to be running much longer before it can rest and even then, it may not be able to rest long before needing to start up again. Dimming lights, turning off pc/laptops also help to keep the temperature down. If there are a lot of people in a room though, little you can do as each one is equivalent to a large lightbulb in terms of heat generation and lots of people means lots of movement, entertainment and going to the loo, etc which means your poor aircon works overtime. In such cases, as long as their movement is indoors, i cool much of my 2nd floor so its better for everyone and then we can keep the bedroom doors open until they are tired and want to rest.

[Grago]

Bro HH, you will definitely make it, i am touched by your past plight as well. You are already doing well, just continue to do what you are doing right. :)

HH, good for you. Bro Wuqi is right.

[wuqi256]

Oi Santa, the Kids at the orphanage will be expecting you then:D Ho Ho Ho....

He is lighting every single candle he can, its a good deed in the end especially when its very likely Tesco was having an unannounced (or at least not formally advertised) price reduction

[Analytical Professor]

Kipmart mangoes rm 5 for 2kg

sweet.

The long kampung mangga

[Analytical Professor]

And the worst is when the newbies repeatedly ask the same questions.

There is so much info here. One must patiently read it not ask the same questions over n over again.

Wuqi i admire ur patience in replying their questions in detail.

I know i have run afoul myself on this score a couple of times


Thanks for sharing Grago, you definitely can make it. You are one of the few then, who asks adequate questions yet act on them. Too many of them in the past, nowadays i just try to keep quiet when they asked me about it.

A friend i still cared a lot for even came and needle me the other day when he thought i would be affected by the scanning of fingers. I just politely told him it doesnt as we have MACS.

[wuqi256]

Kipmart mangoes rm 5 for 2kg

sweet.

The long kampung mangga

Nice!! Thanks for sharing, my wife and family likes mangos. I like watermelons more though. I remembered being the guess the baby "psychic" when i was young. Ihere was another incident i remembered, of a fruit seller at ABC market back then, her in laws were very bad to her, even suggesting the husband take a 2nd wife as she had 3 daugters in a row. I guess she or i was lucky as i guessed correctly that it would be a boy. She came with offerings of money, gold chain. Guess what i wanted? A watermelon, she gave us 2 cartloads of fruits. Thinking back, i am glad i asked only for watermelons. Imagine what a huge relief it was, when i grew up, i asked my mum how come never saw that auntie anymore, seems like because of the boy, she didn't had to help out at the store anymore and got elevated to become a "tai tai" Glad for her. :)

[wuqi256]

We were poor but not without backbone. Most of our relatives would prefer us to talk to the hand if we so much as try to call them. Some even thought we are hungry for their roasted duck, we had to turn back and go home one CNY as one of our relatives said loudly to our grandfather to hide the roast duck she bought as we would finish it in minutes. As if we were so "gian peng", i for one don't eat duck at all anyway. My mum and dad were pushing back tears and being brave for us. When my dad got into the taxi, he was so sad and always hit another car as i could tell he was sad that none of the sisters there spoke up for him. Even his mum kept quiet.

I remembered when i was young, my mum needed green baby papayas to make medicine as we were too poor then. I would always pluck for her whenever i could as you couldn't get. Most of the time, we would ask and offer to pay or do chores but kind hearted people always gave it to us when i told them of the use.

She doesn't need the payayas now though but now older, i still made sure to plant or have ample papayas for her just in case.

[tansi]

U already stayin there ah?

whats the aircon power u usin?

How come warm with aircon?

for me need only a fan at moderate speed on a hot afternoon to take a nap, no need any in the morning as it is cool. couldn't tell if it is the effect of the layer underneath roof tiles. It seems common to install the layer as all the unfinished 2-storey semi-D that I could see in LE have it.

[wuqi256]

And the worst is when the newbies repeatedly ask the same questions.

There is so much info here. One must patiently read it not ask the same questions over n over again.

Wuqi i admire ur patience in replying their questions in detail.

I know i have run afoul myself on this score a couple of times

If they really really have no clue or really cannot find, i will be here. As a last safety net, i might not always succeed but luckily we have lots of good people here, including yourself who is always helping out the new guys.

[wuqi256]

for me need only a fan at moderate speed on a hot afternoon to take a nap, no need any in the morning as it is cool. couldn't tell if it is the effect of the layer underneath roof tiles. It seems common to install the layer as all the unfinished 2-storey semi-D that I could see in LE have it.

Hi Tansi, it is really useful, this is as without it, in the afternoon, it would be quite hot, we are quite lucky here that most of the houses have higher ceiling so that at least warm air can escape. I once asked the maincon guy, he said if we put this in ourselves, it would be quite costly.

[wuqi256]

By the way bros, just to share some nice tunes:

Good songs on a good day, laying around. :)

Weather_clock - By Depapepe
HuQie's 18 shots - Chinese instrumental
VariationsOfPlumBlossoms - Chinese instrumental
Shepherds Flute - Chinese instrumental

Songs when one is in a sombre mood:

Dialogue Of The Lumberjack And Fisherman - Chinese instrumental

The song that matches our plight when we were young and helpless and all who could have helped kept silent:

The Han Palace Autumn Moon - Chinese instrumental

[kashly]

Dear All,
I'm new to this forum, nice knowing you guys.
Like the rest of you, I really want to retire and stay in Msia cos SG is too stressful liao.
Last yr, the Golf inter was selling at RM460k plus and last week just went in the price for the Hills inter is at RM750k. I'm just an average wage earner.. cant afford it. But really like it. My budget is max RM600k.
Anyone has other recommendations? Shld i go for resale HH or look at other properties? How abt condos like Horizon Residence, Fairways or D'esplande?
Thanks for any input.
Cheers!

[Analytical Professor]

But ur patience in helping them is really commendable.

I lose patience easily


If they really really have no clue or really cannot find, i will be here. As a last safety net, i might not always succeed but luckily we have lots of good people here, including yourself who is always helping out the new guys.

[Analytical Professor]

What a day. So hectic. Bought a hoe to make tilling the soil easier.

Looks like im bcomin a farmer.

Kids xhausted.

So dropped em home n they r sleepin

[Analytical Professor]

Another amusin bit. I had to teach my maid to use a lil bit more effort when using the hoe to maximise results

[horizonhills]

Thanks. Actually I love HH and Nusajaya. I have seen it bare many years ago.. And now with all the major developments springing up, I am looking for new annoucements every other day which will increase the value of our house


Bro HH, you will definitely make it, i am touched by your past plight as well. You are already doing well, just continue to do what you are doing right. :)

[hangyong]

(&()J#EDNWOIUQ)(@*#!()

stuck in the jam for 4 freaking hours at 2nd link today... :*:

[Analytical Professor]

Now at JBCC area with wife.

Need to figure where to eat

[horizonhills]

u mean the massive jam is still on? Oh man i left for HH last night ( friday ) at 1130pm and encountered a bit of jam.. to avoid the massive jam on saturday as well.. haha


(&()J#EDNWOIUQ)(@*#!()

stuck in the jam for 4 freaking hours at 2nd link today... :*:

[aangsc]

(&()J#EDNWOIUQ)(@*#!()

stuck in the jam for 4 freaking hours at 2nd link today... :*:

damn, still happen ? was unsure whether to go to my wkend hse, but to get stuck for more than 2 hrs is just too much for me. when is this going to be over ?

[horizonhills]

Actually if u are like me, u can plan the time to avoid the jams.. for 2nd link, 11pm-6am is safest.


damn, still happen ? was unsure whether to go to my wkend hse, but to get stuck for more than 2 hrs is just too much for me. when is this going to be over ?

[aangsc]

Actually if u are like me, u can plan the time to avoid the jams.. for 2nd link, 11pm-6am is safest.

that is my slumber time,mid-night owl not for me , am hoping jam is just school holiday event like the past but now worsen by e new tech biometric. already missed my pl for two wkends . sigh.

[Analytical Professor]

Wow. . . i had warned everyone


(&()J#EDNWOIUQ)(@*#!()

stuck in the jam for 4 freaking hours at 2nd link today... :*:

[aangsc]

Bro HH, you will definitely make it, i am touched by your past plight as well. You are already doing well, just continue to do what you are doing right. :)

woh, some tear jerking stuff indeed from the two of you but i see that the hardship is having a sweet ending . ...time to enjoy your fruits now.
btw what agm was held in hh ?

[euphony]

Went to the LC AGM today for HH, maybe my haircut didn't help. First thing when i met up with folks there going in for the event, their questions:

1. Where is your father?
2. Are you representing him?
3. Are you really a member?

this is indeed irritating. people's elitist assumptions possibly because they are overlooking their own failures where people can be youngish and successful. i usually look at this people and retort. Facebook much?...

[euphony]

today was living nightmare for me even though i was not stuck in jam. was thinking this week could be better than last and arranged my friends to come in from sg so that i can show them around.

they got stuck in the traffic jam in the 2nd link whilst i waited for them. was at the rest area and bought chicken rice ahead so that they could eat up and get a much needed break. apparently their std not too bad. got to chat up the sgporean infront of my queue as we talked about the horrendous queue and got to know each other better. it was a fun thing to chat up a stranger.

I took the advice, went to toll tell them I am doing u-turn so that i could get to the 1st R&R. Unfortunately, they still charged me albeit lesser. People doing that be careful because its from extreme left u-turn to extreme left. check your blind spots and oncoming traffic!

[euphony]

was at LF today bringing my friends to check out my new place as well as development. Whilst trying to find ways to pass the time waiting for my friends, I chatted up this interesting neighbor. He is PRC chinese working in SG bought a place in LF. Not discriminating or anything, but I think this is the next frontier who'd drive up demand for JB housing. The FTs in SG looking for alternatives in JB. So Sgporeans who come in late in the 'game' will lose out to FTs in SG and JB! Talk about totally screwed...

Anyway more interestingly he was describing frequent visitors like a family of squirrels and skunks and even wild pigs etc in his orchard besides the iguana etc it sounded like a little zoo! I think this is what JB living is all about, us getting in tune with nature be it her animals or plants. Urrgh I really can't wait to shift in to LF. Though as per customary practice no shifting till after ghost festival. I don't care really but mum was adamant.

[hangyong]

u mean the massive jam is still on? Oh man i left for HH last night ( friday ) at 1130pm and encountered a bit of jam.. to avoid the massive jam on saturday as well.. haha

yes... its back... with a vengeance... LL have to go in today... terrible lah.... simply terrible...

[euphony]

sigh have to gripe here. i wonder what is the MY immigrations thinking, reflecting on the chaos of this week past. the biometric thing is a total failure (who does 2 INDEX fingers anyway?!!). instead of working towards closer ties and traffic communication MY is alienating the link every opportunity they get. Its like fruits being served on a platter and they prefer to flop it over and pick up the scraps on the floor.

Look at China/HK, EU, USA/Canada...

And I wonder when will Johor as a state be ready to pull up its socks and up the ante. It knows it has the Iskandar project, its a crucial one opportunity to show the rest of MY, indeed SG and the world what Johor can be. And it really is going to rely on SG being one of the biggest supporter both in monetary as well as the masses in technical expertise as well as consumption. Yet it makes no real effort to enhance the traffic communication infighting over the smallest detail like building a crooked or straight bridge. Just build the damn thing already!

Which is what I suspect led some of us here to draw the explanatory race card which in turn drew ire from forumers like batok seri (if i remember correctly). If I may play the same card again, I say bring in the Chinese and their capitalist communism! They are just as corrupted in the governance as we've seen in the past but when they put their mind into it, they at least brought us the 2008 summer Olympics...

[hangyong]

damn, still happen ? was unsure whether to go to my wkend hse, but to get stuck for more than 2 hrs is just too much for me. when is this going to be over ?

wah, at the rate they are going, I think never lor...

According to the staff at immigration, for fingerprinting:
MACS users need to do once (regardless of Nationality)
Singaporeans need to do once only
Other Nationalities need to do it EVERYTIME

[hangyong]

Actually if u are like me, u can plan the time to avoid the jams.. for 2nd link, 11pm-6am is safest.

kids cannot take it lah... :-(

Actually I left house at 7:15 and reach Woodlands about 7:30.... already stuck in a jam near to TECH on BKE... then wife tell me forget her mum's re-entry permit...

Drive all the way home, then reach Tuas at about 8.... went across the bridge and (#(*$__#*% jam starts

passed immigration about 12:45... reached Bukit Indah about 1pm...

wah laoz... I could have reached Cameron Highlands liao leh!

[hangyong]

Wow. . . i had warned everyone

bo bian lah... today die die have to go in...

bro... next time your warning must put BIG BIG on your signature... else miss the post only thats it! :-)

[kashly]

Dear All,
I'm new to this forum. Nice knowing you guys!

Currently, at Horizon hills, the Hills precinct its selling at RM750K. Too exp for me as an avg wage earner.

Any recommendation for a nice ppty for JB for less than RM600K? Any opinions on D'esplande, horizon residences, fairways or other good ppty?
Many thanks.

Cheers!

[contra]

This weekend is expected to be as bad especially from Singapore to Malaysia because of Malaysia school holidays ending Sunday.

Thought I will be smart . Reached Tuas Checkpoint at 520am and was shocked by the jam there. But being Singapore, it cleared pretty fast but the build up so early was scary.... it translated to JB side taking a while to clear at the time of the morning. Yes double finger printing was happening. It is really futile effort. Better to spend the money and resources to monitor the coast for illegal migrants or boosting the Iskandar police force...

[contra]

Which is what I suspect led some of us here to draw the explanatory race card which in turn drew ire from forumers like batok seri (if i remember correctly). If I may play the same card again, I say bring in the Chinese and their capitalist communism! They are just as corrupted in the governance as we've seen in the past but when they put their mind into it, they at least brought us the 2008 summer Olympics...

Hi brother euphony, lets diffuse the red card.
The public servants in Malaysia are paid poorly and Malays make up the largest race in the service, it removes the inclinations for productivity and attraction of talent. Thankfully there are some good leaders out there like Najib who is promoting Iskandar. Lets hope the right team follows thru on execution.

(The Chinese are a diff story for another forum. By the way did you see the news that the Chinese people are now the no.1 foreign purchasers of Singapore properties, displacing the Malaysians and Indonesians for the first time! I wonder if they will one day be the biggest FT pool in Singapore < hope not. ang mohs easier to bs as they are so naive:)

[Analytical Professor]

Took a long time to figure where to do dinner.

suggested the austin area recomnended by toyohon.

However wifey not keen to explore new areas as is her wont.

Finally compromise worked out. Headed to O'Reallys at Taman Molek.

For draught lovers they have kilkenny, tiger, strongbow and guiness if i remember correctly.

They have a band of 3 that plays every Fri, Sat n Sun.

They sing well in my humble opinion.

The crowd somewhat mixed la. . . Not uniform like the spore scene

[Analytical Professor]

Avoid weekends n peak hours bro during this critical period.


bo bian lah... today die die have to go in...

bro... next time your warning must put BIG BIG on your signature... else miss the post only thats it! :-)

[contra]

Went to the LC AGM today for HH, maybe my haircut didn't help. First thing when i met up with folks there going in for the event, their questions:

1. Where is your father?
2. Are you representing him?
3. Are you really a member?

Funny, suffered so many years and then working 2-3 jobs and finally doing ok. The moment you are doing ok, people give you problems. They ignore you or say behind your back, that guy is here because of his family. Its impossible for someone so young to be here.



Hi Bro Wuqi,

LC is Local Council? Just wondering if it works like in Singapore private properties residents management committee where they get to decide how to allocate the management fee?

I have a quick story to share on the second matter. One day I was at the office lobby and happens my Australian staff (55 yrs old) arrived in a taxi . The cleaner lady said "ni de lao ban lai le". I said I was the guy's lao ban. She just laughed as though I was joking. Thing is because he looks older (fact is I am and do look much younger) and I am not ang moh, certain people have the auto assumption that the ang moh must be the boss. Sad. Those who make assumptions on appearance are those we have to take pity on...

[Analytical Professor]

Listen to mum its worthwhile.

1. U listen to her she happy

2. U believe or not in ghost festival still. . . A good idea to listen to mum


was at LF today bringing my friends to check out my new place as well as development. Whilst trying to find ways to pass the time waiting for my friends, I chatted up this interesting neighbor. He is PRC chinese working in SG bought a place in LF. Not discriminating or anything, but I think this is the next frontier who'd drive up demand for JB housing. The FTs in SG looking for alternatives in JB. So Sgporeans who come in late in the 'game' will lose out to FTs in SG and JB! Talk about totally screwed...

Anyway more interestingly he was describing frequent visitors like a family of squirrels and skunks and even wild pigs etc in his orchard besides the iguana etc it sounded like a little zoo! I think this is what JB living is all about, us getting in tune with nature be it her animals or plants. Urrgh I really can't wait to shift in to LF. Though as per customary practice no shifting till after ghost festival. I don't care really but mum was adamant.

[Analytical Professor]

Without meanin offence to anyone

uppin the ante is far off. . . . . For starters they need to get their house in order

hu hu


sigh have to gripe here. i wonder what is the MY immigrations thinking, reflecting on the chaos of this week past. the biometric thing is a total failure (who does 2 INDEX fingers anyway?!!). instead of working towards closer ties and traffic communication MY is alienating the link every opportunity they get. Its like fruits being served on a platter and they prefer to flop it over and pick up the scraps on the floor.

Look at China/HK, EU, USA/Canada...

And I wonder when will Johor as a state be ready to pull up its socks and up the ante. It knows it has the Iskandar project, its a crucial one opportunity to show the rest of MY, indeed SG and the world what Johor can be. And it really is going to rely on SG being one of the biggest supporter both in monetary as well as the masses in technical expertise as well as consumption. Yet it makes no real effort to enhance the traffic communication infighting over the smallest detail like building a crooked or straight bridge. Just build the damn thing already!

Which is what I suspect led some of us here to draw the explanatory race card which in turn drew ire from forumers like batok seri (if i remember correctly). If I may play the same card again, I say bring in the Chinese and their capitalist communism! They are just as corrupted in the governance as we've seen in the past but when they put their mind into it, they at least brought us the 2008 summer Olympics...

[ginfreely]

Hi Bro Wuqi,

LC is Local Council? Just wondering if it works like in Singapore private properties residents management committee where they get to decide how to allocate the management fee?

I have a quick story to share on the second matter. One day I was at the office lobby and happens my Australian staff (55 yrs old) arrived in a taxi . The cleaner lady said "ni de lao ban lai le". I said I was the guy's lao ban. She just laughed as though I was joking. Thing is because he looks older (fact is I am and do look much younger) and I am not ang moh, certain people have the auto assumption that the ang moh must be the boss. Sad. Those who make assumptions on appearance are those we have to take pity on...

Ever met a young qualified TCM Singaporean doctor who told me the same thing. Patients always assume older TCM practitioner, especially those from PRC to be better qualified and more experienced in TCM. Actually there are many PRC TCM practitioner who studied TCM only after they come to Singapore (in Chung Hwa TCM hospital, the one in Toa Payoh). So they may be older but not more qualified or more experienced than someone younger who studied in the same place.

[Analytical Professor]

If possible get ur kids to be hardy bro.

I tell my kids that they are expected to wake up n leave any time.

Even they fall asleep in car i pre-warn them not to throw tantrums when destination is reached.

Btw what happened to ur mil also happened to my mum.

10 days ago my mum returned after a 15 day oversea trip.

She forgot to hand over her passport to my wife.

We drove down from our home and while offerin our passports at spore immigration i realised that my mums passport was missing.

That was when my mum remembered that her passport was in the other travel suitcase.

Had to then go over to the office register the issue then drive back home pick up passport n u turn again.

Lots of time wastef


kids cannot take it lah... :-(

Actually I left house at 7:15 and reach Woodlands about 7:30.... already stuck in a jam near to TECH on BKE... then wife tell me forget her mum's re-entry permit...

Drive all the way home, then reach Tuas at about 8.... went across the bridge and (#(*$__#*% jam starts

passed immigration about 12:45... reached Bukit Indah about 1pm...

wah laoz... I could have reached Cameron Highlands liao leh!

[Analytical Professor]

Have to go back n forth several times.

Forum jumping too fast.

Yeah dude hard to lose weight.

Tipping the scales at a scary . . . . kg

try oReallys



Bro. good living like this how to lose weight:D But keep up the good work.... You're food reviews very much appreciated;)

[avalon74]

Went to the LC AGM today for HH, maybe my haircut didn't help. First thing when i met up with folks there going in for the event, their questions:

1. Where is your father?
2. Are you representing him?
3. Are you really a member?
.................................................. .......

Sorry for this rant, need to get it out of my system, after this i am fine as i try not to let people like that bother me. :)

Hi Wuqi..
Good to let out some pent up"pressure" from time to time..
However like what Oasis say, "dont look back in anger".. look forward to the future & what adventures it holds..

Humility is one of the most under-rated virtues...

[avalon74]

And the worst is when the newbies repeatedly ask the same questions.
There is so much info here. One must patiently read it not ask the same questions over n over again.
Wuqi i admire ur patience in replying their questions in detail.
I know i have run afoul myself on this score a couple of times

Bro, the search query is not too helpful.. i also had problems looking for past post on specific discussion..
Even had to resort to extract the data manually as screen shots.. haha

[avalon74]

damn, still happen ? was unsure whether to go to my wkend hse, but to get stuck for more than 2 hrs is just too much for me. when is this going to be over ?

27 Jun 11?.. end of school holidays..

[avalon74]

that is my slumber time,mid-night owl not for me , am hoping jam is just school holiday event like the past but now worsen by e new tech biometric. already missed my pl for two wkends . sigh.

This was the timing for my trip of petrol top up some yrs back.. haha..

[horizonhills]

wah? For me if its 7am plus, I will forget about coming in to JB already. Usually do it before 530am if possible. Kids? Just slap them and get them to drink some coffee and wash up.. if no use, simply carry them and throw them into the car to sleep. thats the best!

Today read the news. The malaysia government gota make the wire for the scanner longer to allow passengers to stay in their cars to thumbprint. Arhh i think they are missing the point. The massive jam is a result of the thumb print in the first place. Even if u have 10 scannersi in one counter, the process will slows down the traffic.

*shake head*


kids cannot take it lah... :-(

Actually I left house at 7:15 and reach Woodlands about 7:30.... already stuck in a jam near to TECH on BKE... then wife tell me forget her mum's re-entry permit...

Drive all the way home, then reach Tuas at about 8.... went across the bridge and (#(*$__#*% jam starts

passed immigration about 12:45... reached Bukit Indah about 1pm...

wah laoz... I could have reached Cameron Highlands liao leh!

[horizonhills]

Hi welcome! There are still resale and completed terraces at HH selling for less than RM500k. If u are foreigner, must buy higher than rm500k.. maybe can consider corner terraces or cluster. enjoy your stay!


Dear All,
I'm new to this forum. Nice knowing you guys!

Currently, at Horizon hills, the Hills precinct its selling at RM750K. Too exp for me as an avg wage earner.

Any recommendation for a nice ppty for JB for less than RM600K? Any opinions on D'esplande, horizon residences, fairways or other good ppty?
Many thanks.

Cheers!

[avalon74]

This weekend is expected to be as bad especially from Singapore to Malaysia because of Malaysia school holidays ending Sunday.

Thought I will be smart . Reached Tuas Checkpoint at 520am and was shocked by the jam there. But being Singapore, it cleared pretty fast but the build up so early was scary.... it translated to JB side taking a while to clear at the time of the morning. Yes double finger printing was happening. It is really futile effort. Better to spend the money and resources to monitor the coast for illegal migrants or boosting the Iskandar police force...

Though the queue may seem short at the before 6 am, prob is there are less counters open on both Sg & My customs so abit more waiting time..
experience from petrol topping up dayz

[euphony]

(The Chinese are a diff story for another forum. By the way did you see the news that the Chinese people are now the no.1 foreign purchasers of Singapore properties, displacing the Malaysians and Indonesians for the first time! I wonder if they will one day be the biggest FT pool in Singapore < hope not. ang mohs easier to bs as they are so naive:)

they are already no? i've heard plenty of cases where they come here and bought properties in hard cash and without need to negotiate...

[euphony]

Listen to mum its worthwhile.

1. U listen to her she happy

2. U believe or not in ghost festival still. . . A good idea to listen to mum

yeah =) let her have this la since i bought the place in part to give her a nice retirement.
want to ask you AP did you start your pine tree from sappling or a transplant or was it from baby tree? I suddenly have the urge when I saw a house or two having it and I thought it was lush!

[Analytical Professor]

Returnin from church.

Noticed a man selling pork on a vehicle along jln keris

quite a few buyers.

Safe?

[Analytical Professor]

Returnin from church.

Noticed a man selling pork on a vehicle along jln keris

quite a few buyers.

Safe?

[aangsc]

anywhere else can see traffic condition beside onemortoring ?
Today )(unday 9am) system down, is it data traffic also high or what ?

[austin_hts]

Reach austin 12am yesterday. Slight jam, clear custom abt 45 mins from spore to tebrau. No scanning. Had supper at austin. . One of those mobile hawker, steamboat/bbq, food on sticks. Each rm1 (eg yong tau fu) to rm2.5. . Open daily from 8pn to 3~4am. Near big mouth karaoke. Very nice.

Having breakfast now (1020am) at austin E&Y 24 hrs prata. Great pratas and other indian food @ reasonable price.

[Analytical Professor]

Are they for real?

Bottleneck at Johor 'not caused by biometric system'
The Star/Asia News Network
Sun, Jun 12, 2011

By Mohd Farhaan Shah

JOHOR BARU, Malaysia - It is unfair to blame the biometric system at the causeway and the Second Link for causing the congestion at the entry points since early this month.

Home Ministry secretary-general Tan Sri Mahmood Adam said the congestion only happened at both checkpoints in Johor but not at the other 67 checkpoints nationwide.

"The problem is due to the high human traffic volume and movement daily between Johor Baru and Singapore," he told The Star after attending a closed-door briefing at the Bangunan Sultan Iskandar Customs, Immigration Quarantine Complex (CIQ) in Bukit Chagar yesterday.

Mahmood said the ministry was looking at ways to improve the system at the causeway and the Second Link to reduce congestion and improve the flow of visitors into Malaysia.

He said among other steps that would be taken included installing extended biometric scanners at the Immigration officer booths so that those in cars would not have to come out to have their fingerprints taken as being practised currently.

For investors, Mahmood said the ministry hoped to issue special passes which would be inserted into their passports without having to be scanned additionally.

He said the ministry was in talks with the Iskandar Regional Development Authority on the matter.

Mahmood also advised foreigners who had been given the Malaysia Automated Clearance System (MACS) for easier entry into the country via the causeway and the Second Link to make full use of it.

Mahmood said presently more than 100,000 foreigners, mostly Singaporeans, had been issued with the MACS and they could use dedicated lanes to pass through Immigration

[Analytical Professor]

M'sia identifies key areas to attract foreign students

The Star/Asia News Network
Sun, Jun 12, 2011


JOHOR BARU - Intense competition among countries in the region to draw foreign students does not worry Malaysia, which has identified four core disciplines to gain an advantage.

Higher Education Minister Datuk Seri Mohamed Khaled Nordin said the four disciplines are Islamic banking and finance, advanced engineering, hospitality and health sciences.

He said Malaysia had its own strength and capabilities to become the region's leading higher education hub.

"We have identified the four core disciplines that will put Malaysia in a better position to attract foreign students to our public and private universities," he said when opening the KFCH International College in Bandar Datuk Onn here yesterday.

Khaled said by focusing on the four key areas rather than in too many disciplines, Malaysia would be able to strengthen and develop its position as a higher learning education hub.

He said it was cheaper for foreign students to study in Malaysia than in developed countries that were facing rising costs of higher education.

Khaled said China and India were also having problems catering to a higher number of students entering universities and had sent them overseas to further their studies.

He urged public and private universities in Malaysia to look at drawing more Chinese and Indian students.

Currently, about 90,000 foreign students are studying at public and private universities in Malaysia and the Government hopes to increase the number to 150,000 by 2015.

On another matter, Khaled said the Government had not frozen the intake of new medical students but would not approve the opening of new medical schools in the next five years

[Analytical Professor]

Faster way to scan fingerprints
New Straits Times
Sat, Jun 11, 2011


JOHOR BARU: Visitors to Malaysia coming through the Causeway and the second link will be assured of faster immigration clearance from today as they no longer have to alight their vehicles to have their fingers scanned under the biometric fingerprint scanning system.

They just have to sit back in their vehicles as the scanners at the Immigration booths could be extended to reach the hand of every passenger and driver for them to have their fingers scanned while Immigration officers on duty will verify and stamp their passports as usual.

Immigration personnel have been working around the clock this week to extend the cables connecting every scanner and computer system by 1.7 metres to enable them to be pulled out to reach every vehicle.

Immigration director-general Datuk Alias Ahmad said the hassle-free measure would significantly reduce the time needed for Immigration clearance.

To facilitate the process, Immigration officer will be stationed outside each booth to supervise the scanning process and assist visitors who are new to the system.

"These are among the proactive measures we have adopted in preparation for a possible influx of visitors during the weekends and public holidays. It will be implemented from today."

The security system is being implemented at 96 entry points natiowide from June 1 to curb transboundary crime and terrorist threats.

Previously, foreigners only had to have their passports stamped to enter Malaysia.

Last weekend, the system was too slow to cope with the influx of visitors from Singapore in conjunction with the republic's school holidays.

This slowed down immigration clearance at both the checkpoints at the Sultan Iskandar Building at the Causeway and the Sultan Abu Bakar Complex at the second link.

The long and slow traffic leading to the checkpoints from Singapore, disrupted travelling and holiday plans of many Singaporeans and other visitors.

However, immigration clearance at both entry points was reported to be stable during weekdays.

Alias said the fingerprint scanning system had been upgraded to expedite the scanning process.

"For long term measure, we would like to advise foreigners to apply for the Malaysia automated clearance system at any Immigration office for faster Immigration clearance.

"Under the system, foreigners only have to scan their index fingers during the first visit to the country. For subsequent entry, they only need to have their passports stamped.

[Analytical Professor]

Could be
1) Server d0wn
2) High volume of data traffic
3) Maintenance

Possibly 1 and 2





anywhere else can see traffic condition beside onemortoring ?
Today )(unday 9am) system down, is it data traffic also high or what ?

[Analytical Professor]

HOme breakfast for me today.

Cant eat from mamak shops. Unhealthy. My opinion...


Reach austin 12am yesterday. Slight jam, clear custom abt 45 mins from spore to tebrau. No scanning. Had supper at austin. . One of those mobile hawker, steamboat/bbq, food on sticks. Each rm1 (eg yong tau fu) to rm2.5. . Open daily from 8pn to 3~4am. Near big mouth karaoke. Very nice.

Having breakfast now (1020am) at austin E&Y 24 hrs prata. Great pratas and other indian food @ reasonable price.

[Analytical Professor]

I tried google search using queries such as

*** sing supplies living in jb toddy

I think its better if you more or less know exactly what you are looking for.

Agreed the search query on the forum is not useful.:):)


Bro, the search query is not too helpful.. i also had problems looking for past post on specific discussion..
Even had to resort to extract the data manually as screen shots.. haha

[Analytical Professor]

Yeah after the school holidays could get probably better.

Anyway by then they would have finished finger printing most of the visitors.

A substantial data banki would be with them by then.

Imagine if at a later date Spore implements finger printing??

We would be doing Mas Selamat all over again.


27 Jun 11?.. end of school holidays..

[Analytical Professor]

yeah best to be firm with kids.... I agree to that.... No pampering and giving carrots all the time....

Just tell them that they have to get up and get into the car or later get up and get out of the car.... irrespective of how sleepy they are.... No wailing or throwing tantrums....

Babies are excused....

wah? For me if its 7am plus, I will forget about coming in to JB already. Usually do it before 530am if possible. Kids? Just slap them and get them to drink some coffee and wash up.. if no use, simply carry them and throw them into the car to sleep. thats the best!

Today read the news. The malaysia government gota make the wire for the scanner longer to allow passengers to stay in their cars to thumbprint. Arhh i think they are missing the point. The massive jam is a result of the thumb print in the first place. Even if u have 10 scannersi in one counter, the process will slows down the traffic.

*shake head*

[Analytical Professor]

Serene, tranquil, lush, scenic .... running short of words....

Especially when they are mature and fully grown....

Nothing beats the sight....

Your home will be easily recognisable and unique......



yeah =) let her have this la since i bought the place in part to give her a nice retirement.
want to ask you AP did you start your pine tree from sappling or a transplant or was it from baby tree? I suddenly have the urge when I saw a house or two having it and I thought it was lush!

[euphony]

anywhere else can see traffic condition beside onemortoring ?
Today )(unday 9am) system down, is it data traffic also high or what ?

its back on. can check onemortoring now.

[Analytical Professor]

Thoughtful and filial child.

Spore should have more like you. May your tribe increase in leaps and bounds....

In Johore itself i have seen several types of pines....

So intoxicating......

I was hell bent on this...

But this is the easiest part.....

The harder part is finding a nursery and then finding the pine you like in that nursery.... If not you gotta visit several nurseries until you find the one with the pine of your choice.... This is the tedious and rather laborious process....

1) Now if you try to grow them from seeds/tiny sapplings this is possible. It will be worth the effort as well as you can see the plants growing before your eyes like a baby.... But it is a tiring process no doubt. Finding the right seeds may not be easy while finding the right sappling may be easier...

2) In my case i got 3 foot pine trees. I wanted them to mature soon.... I could not wait to raise them up from the sappling stage.... i got 10 pine trees. Paid a bit more cause the guy knew i was a singaporean. Hardly managed to secure any discount from him.

I decided to get the nursery to plant the trees for me as well cause they are skilled at doing it.

After spending on the plants it would be silly of me to try and plant it and lose the plant. So i got them to plant it....

I even asked them to provide a stick to ensure that the plant grows straight up and not wayward....

Ofcourse they were not interested in doing all that....

And then comes the even more tiring part....

Tending to the plants....

I was in a hurry to plant them closer to the rainy season last year. I ended up planting them in Sept or Oct. Cant remember exactly.... Cause i was on a 45 day holiday from mid Nov to early Jan. Hence i needed the rains. Therefore i chose the Nov Dec period.....

Ofcourse the plants are bigger now and can manage to live for a week to ten days without rain although they may look a bit wilted and worn. but surely wont die......

But those early days were crucial when they were transferred from nursery to rough conditions.....

I chose 10 pines... I felt i needed 13.....

But i cant get the additional 3 now since the sizes would be different..

So you must calculate how many you need and get them at the same time.....

In addition you gotta protect them from insects/fungus/ant attacks during the early period.

Proper nutrition is essential too like compost/ N-K-P mix etc....

and yes a bucket or more of water a day....

Cheers and all the best bro. . .



yeah =) let her have this la since i bought the place in part to give her a nice retirement.
want to ask you AP did you start your pine tree from sappling or a transplant or was it from baby tree? I suddenly have the urge when I saw a house or two having it and I thought it was lush!

[euphony]

THANKS AP! I am printing this out as a guide.
10! I am only thinking of 1 hurhur, cos there is not much land. it will be quite a sight to see 10 fully matured pine trees in the garden.
like you I will get the young trees then, seeds are way too much work, I want to see in its full glory in my lifetime! =p



In Johore itself i have seen several types of pines....

So intoxicating......

I was hell bent on this...

But this is the easiest part.....

The harder part is finding a nursery and then finding the pine you like in that nursery.... If not you gotta visit several nurseries until you find the one with the pine of your choice.... This is the tedious and rather laborious process....

1) Now if you try to grow them from seeds/tiny sapplings this is possible. It will be worth the effort as well as you can see the plants growing before your eyes like a baby.... But it is a tiring process no doubt. Finding the right seeds may not be easy while finding the right sappling may be easier...

2) In my case i got 3 foot pine trees. I wanted them to mature soon.... I could not wait to raise them up from the sappling stage.... i got 10 pine trees. Paid a bit more cause the guy knew i was a singaporean. Hardly managed to secure any discount from him.

I decided to get the nursery to plant the trees for me as well cause they are skilled at doing it.

After spending on the plants it would be silly of me to try and plant it and lose the plant. So i got them to plant it....

I even asked them to provide a stick to ensure that the plant grows straight up and not wayward....

Ofcourse they were not interested in doing all that....

And then comes the even more tiring part....

Tending to the plants....

I was in a hurry to plant them closer to the rainy season last year. I ended up planting them in Sept or Oct. Cant remember exactly.... Cause i was on a 45 day holiday from mid Nov to early Jan. Hence i needed the rains. Therefore i chose the Nov Dec period.....

Ofcourse the plants are bigger now and can manage to live for a week to ten days without rain although they may look a bit wilted and worn. but surely wont die......

But those early days were crucial when they were transferred from nursery to rough conditions.....

I chose 10 pines... I felt i needed 13.....

But i cant get the additional 3 now since the sizes would be different..

So you must calculate how many you need and get them at the same time.....

In addition you gotta protect them from insects/fungus/ant attacks during the early period.

Proper nutrition is essential too like compost/ N-K-P mix etc....

and yes a bucket or more of water a day....

Cheers and all the best bro....

[hangyong]

Faster way to scan fingerprints
New Straits Times
Sat, Jun 11, 2011


JOHOR BARU: Visitors to Malaysia coming through the Causeway and the second link will be assured of faster immigration clearance from today as they no longer have to alight their vehicles to have their fingers scanned under the biometric fingerprint scanning system.


They joking right? I was stuck inside for 4 hours +

[Analytical Professor]

I still dunno how u tolerate four hours sia


They joking right? I was stuck inside for 4 hours +

[hangyong]

I still dunno how u tolerate four hours sia

By giving black face to everyone, sleeping in the car, walking to the immigration to apply for MACS, pee, buy drinks, change shift... Do over again.... Hahaha

[abugumgum]

Sorry that this is kind of off-topic.

I have a 1 month old Kia Forte 2.0 SX Six Speed Auto, registered in Johor to sell.
Bought at Rm 97,800 from NAZA KIA. (http://nazakia.com.my/) Mileage at 2,000 km.

My original plan of living in Johor has changed, so I have no choice.

Anyone interested can PM me for more details.

[Analytical Professor]

What happened?

Why the change? Travellin issues?

Somethin that u can share?


Sorry that this is kind of off-topic.

I have a 1 month old Kia Forte 2.0 SX Six Speed Auto, registered in Johor to sell.
Bought at Rm 97,800 from NAZA KIA. (http://nazakia.com.my/) Mileage at 2,000 km.

My original plan of living in Johor has changed, so I have no choice.

Anyone interested can PM me for more details.

[abugumgum]

AP,

Something happened, not good to share here, we decided it is best for us to go back.

Not travelling issue.

[nusajayaphile]

Anyone can supply name and address of moneychanger in Singapore who will remit RM over to developer's bank account in JB?

Trying not to take a loan to finance our purchase of a link house in The Hills Precinct. So need to remit RM over each time the developer calls for payment.

Tried asking a few moneychangers in Singapore, but none of them offer this service. In fact, 1 or 2 of them gave me a strange look, like I'm money laundering, not realizing it's to pay for a house. Would appreciate fourumers' tips on how to remit ringgit over.

Also, because payment is progressive, any idea how often the developer will call for payment? I know that the house has got to be completed within 2 years, but I think it will be faster than that. Construction has not commenced yet, and we are still in the option period - have not signed SPA yet. Once they start, how fast will they complete the foundation, r.c. framework, brick walls. etc? Need to arrange for cash flow to fund the purchase.

Thanks to all in advance, for any advice.

[horizonhills]

Hi Nusa, quite shiong not to take loan because imagine over the 24 months from now etc, you will need to pay up to 90% of the total price.. That means every few months you need to remit RM 30000 to RM 50000.. You gota pay in full? Wah..


Anyone can supply name and address of moneychanger in Singapore who will remit RM over to developer's bank account in JB?

Trying not to take a loan to finance our purchase of a link house in The Hills Precinct. So need to remit RM over each time the developer calls for payment.

Tried asking a few moneychangers in Singapore, but none of them offer this service. In fact, 1 or 2 of them gave me a strange look, like I'm money laundering, not realizing it's to pay for a house. Would appreciate fourumers' tips on how to remit ringgit over.

Also, because payment is progressive, any idea how often the developer will call for payment? I know that the house has got to be completed within 2 years, but I think it will be faster than that. Construction has not commenced yet, and we are still in the option period - have not signed SPA yet. Once they start, how fast will they complete the foundation, r.c. framework, brick walls. etc? Need to arrange for cash flow to fund the purchase.

Thanks to all in advance, for any advice.

[horizonhills]

Hi why not try our for a while or so? For me even though I dislike staying in HH because my wifes' sibling will keep coming to disturb and not working, I will try to stay for a while here before returning to Singapore


AP,

Something happened, not good to share here, we decided it is best for us to go back.

Not travelling issue.

[nusajayaphile]

Hi Nusa, quite shiong not to take loan because imagine over the 24 months from now etc, you will need to pay up to 90% of the total price.. That means every few months you need to remit RM 30000 to RM 50000.. You gota pay in full? Wah..

Hi HH

Yeah, very shiong. Will be RM74,500 each time, as purchase price is RM745,800...

But BLR in M'sia very high at 6.6%. S'pore savings interest rate in bank only pays 0.25%. Might as well try to pay cash, rather than keep the money in the bank and earn miserable interest, whilst paying 4.5% to M'sian bank. Doesn't make sense.

Moreover, since it's under construction, can't rent out and use rental to service the instalments. So trying not to take loan, and will have to accumulate cash over 24 months to pay. Luckily it's progressive payments. Any idea how often the developer will call for payments? Once every 3 months?

[wuqi256]

Thanks for your kind comments Grago and HH. Sometimes life is like that.

Went out with my neighbours today on house hunting, they are keen on Eco Setia but i was kind of slightly bias towards the place. They went in the morning and forgot to bring the cheque book, came back and asked me for my opinion. I told them Nusa Sentral was better and took them there. Turns out that there is a new road (being built) that is going pass HH so in the end, they got interested and booked one.

[ginfreely]

Anyone can supply name and address of moneychanger in Singapore who will remit RM over to developer's bank account in JB?

Trying not to take a loan to finance our purchase of a link house in The Hills Precinct. So need to remit RM over each time the developer calls for payment.

Tried asking a few moneychangers in Singapore, but none of them offer this service. In fact, 1 or 2 of them gave me a strange look, like I'm money laundering, not realizing it's to pay for a house. Would appreciate fourumers' tips on how to remit ringgit over.

Also, because payment is progressive, any idea how often the developer will call for payment? I know that the house has got to be completed within 2 years, but I think it will be faster than that. Construction has not commenced yet, and we are still in the option period - have not signed SPA yet. Once they start, how fast will they complete the foundation, r.c. framework, brick walls. etc? Need to arrange for cash flow to fund the purchase.

Thanks to all in advance, for any advice.

Raffles money change pte ltd

[wuqi256]

Took my wife and my maid to HH for dinner just now. Ordered the same for her as we always ate together. Didn't want her to feel left out. My wife also took her on a tour of the place and just now, there was a very large Swiss/German group who played golf. My maid was like, wow, so many orang putih. Didn't know they were Swiss/German until a lady asked me for directions and i pointed her to the dinner area.

When my maid and my wife went into the ladies, they saw a couple of ladies who were changing openly inside. It was a shocking experience but a funny one when they related to me.

[wuqi256]

Hello MOH and police, time to act to send the FT who abused elderly to jail. A strong deterrent sentence is required to prevent future offenders. No excuse of nursing home staff being under stress. Employers who abused maids are sent to jail despite having stress dealing with these maids.

Hi Ginfreely, agreed with your signature. Many people who dissed JB and say that why go there and be subjected to foreign healthcare and in old age homes, people who will treat you differently because of your nationality should look no further than incidences like these.

Too late, many just realised that even when in Singapore, they are no longer served by locals, rather the same issues and worries they have about crime, they will also experience as rather than go to the 3rd world, the 3rd world has arrived at your doorsteps, in all its glory (or not). :)

A pinoy nurse took more than 4-5 tries for every patient she has to put a drip on, this was observed by my wife in a very reputable local hospital in Orchard. If one has to be served by folks with dubious credentials, might as well go to their countries where its much cheaper. One time, a Pinoy tried to find my veins, in the end, she stuck a needle in and went like 180 degrees, swing the needle around and around. In the end, she passed it to a colleague (local) and she stuck in one time and found immediately. Seems the local was a junior staff even. This was in a big health screening lab in SG. Never go back there again.

[ginfreely]

Hello MOH and police, time to act to send the FT who abused elderly to jail. A strong deterrent sentence is required to prevent future offenders. No excuse of nursing home staff being under stress. Employers who abused maids are sent to jail despite having stress dealing with these maids.

Hi Ginfreely, agreed with your signature. Many people who dissed JB and say that why go there and be subjected to foreign healthcare and people who will treat you differently because of your nationality should look no further than incidences like these. Too late, many just realised that even when in Singapore, they are no longer served by locals, rather the same issues and worries they have about crime, they will also experience as rather than go to the 3rd world, the 3rd world has arrived at your doorsteps, in all its glory (or not). :)


True, third world has come to our door step. Yesterday 1 PRC must squeeze past me when there are other paths to walk in the Shop n save. Hey I am not blocking or anything, just standing there for few seconds in front of the chiller selecting fish and the supermarket space is such that no one else can walk past once someone standing in front of the chiller. Luckily I got eyes on my side to Siam fast enough, if not will be hit by him. Btw I am female. It annoys me that I have no peace shopping now, got to look out for these people.

[wuqi256]

Drove down to the new highway that is still being prepared, lots of mud still left on the roads but can tell it was almost ready. On the way down from the clubhouse, saw a HH caddie who had to walk down as she was in a rush and the bus was late. Asked my wifey if it was ok and we offered her a lift. Sent her to her place at the foot of the hill. Then we went to the new road and it split into 2, one on the left towards Perling and the other is likely to go to the Medini/Puteri Harbour area.

We took the one on the left and shortly after, saw the new bridge connecting from Perling and we went did not go up the bridge but just went around and lo an behold, we came out to one of the side exits (still muddy road now) and joined the other vehicles making the hairpin turn under the bridge (those coming from Perling side) and went back towards Bukit Indah.

[wuqi256]

True, third world has come to our door step. Yesterday 1 PRC must squeeze past me when there are other paths to walk in the Shop n save. Hey I am not blocking or anything, just standing there for few seconds in front of the chiller selecting fish and the supermarket space is such that no one else can walk past once someone standing in front of the chiller. Luckily I got eyes on my side to Siam fast enough, if not will be hit by him. Btw I am female. It annoys me that I have no peace shopping now, got to look out for these people.

Unfortunately, same thing goes for crime, people claimed you go to JB to die but then forgot about the multiple murders and even the guy who got killed in the early morning in Orchard Towers.

Until recent years, i have never heard of people trying to rob a fast food joint in SG before. The 3rd world is upon us, whether we like it or not. To submit or not is no longer our choice. We are truly unique, pandering to anyone who wants to come upon our shores. Even countries some people here look down upon, example Malaysia and China, they don't give out PRs so easily. Even staff we hired here in JB told us when they moved from SG back to JB, your country, i can come and work anytime.

They even said our govt are literally begging PRC people to take up PR by sending them many letters, etc.

[ginfreely]

A pinoy nurse took more than 4-5 tries for every patient she has to put a drip on, this was observed by my wife in a very reputable local hospital in Orchard. If one has to be served by folks with dubious credentials, might as well go to their countries where its much cheaper. One time, a Pinoy tried to find my veins, in the end, she stuck a needle in and went like 180 degrees, swing the needle around and around. In the end, she passed it to a colleague (local) and she stuck in one time and found immediately. Seems the local was a junior staff even. This was in a big health screening lab in SG. Never go back there again.

Yeah the Pinoy nowadays also got attitude. So many people feedback of waiters giving problem, personally I have feedback to Stanchart customer service before and the Pinoy manager and Pinoy staff promised to come back and then no news since then.

[Analytical Professor]

I agree with Ginfreelys signature and yes Wuqi i agree with you too.

I am surprised why no police report has been made yet? Why no action taken yet?

Low pay or whatever ($400 a month is what they earn + annual increment of maybe $50 max.... So yes its low pay... But they get free food + accom

And moreover they agreed to work for that pay. No one placed a gun to their head and asked them to come and work here.

Stern action must be taken.


Hello MOH and police, time to act to send the FT who abused elderly to jail. A strong deterrent sentence is required to prevent future offenders. No excuse of nursing home staff being under stress. Employers who abused maids are sent to jail despite having stress dealing with these maids.

Hi Ginfreely, agreed with your signature. Many people who dissed JB and say that why go there and be subjected to foreign healthcare and in old age homes, people who will treat you differently because of your nationality should look no further than incidences like these.

Too late, many just realised that even when in Singapore, they are no longer served by locals, rather the same issues and worries they have about crime, they will also experience as rather than go to the 3rd world, the 3rd world has arrived at your doorsteps, in all its glory (or not). :)

A pinoy nurse took more than 4-5 tries for every patient she has to put a drip on, this was observed by my wife in a very reputable local hospital in Orchard. If one has to be served by folks with dubious credentials, might as well go to their countries where its much cheaper. One time, a Pinoy tried to find my veins, in the end, she stuck a needle in and went like 180 degrees, swing the needle around and around. In the end, she passed it to a colleague (local) and she stuck in one time and found immediately. Seems the local was a junior staff even. This was in a big health screening lab in SG. Never go back there again.

[aangsc]

Anyone can supply name and address of moneychanger in Singapore who will remit RM over to developer's bank account in JB?

Trying not to take a loan to finance our purchase of a link house in The Hills Precinct. So need to remit RM over each time the developer calls for payment.

Tried asking a few moneychangers in Singapore, but none of them offer this service. In fact, 1 or 2 of them gave me a strange look, like I'm money laundering, not realizing it's to pay for a house. Would appreciate fourumers' tips on how to remit ringgit over.

Also, because payment is progressive, any idea how often the developer will call for payment? I know that the house has got to be completed within 2 years, but I think it will be faster than that. Construction has not commenced yet, and we are still in the option period - have not signed SPA yet. Once they start, how fast will they complete the foundation, r.c. framework, brick walls. etc? Need to arrange for cash flow to fund the purchase.

Thanks to all in advance, for any advice.

I use ALLBEST

1 Jurong West Central 2 #B1-36A JP1
Jurong Point Shopping Centre
Singapore 648886

also have one at Boon Lay shopping.
All Best Enterprise
221 Boon Lay Place
#01-156 Boon Lay Shopping Centre S640221
Location:
Jurong West / Boon Lay

[Analytical Professor]

the same pinoy look up to Ang Moh you know....

Even broke ang moh they still consider superior. As long as ang moh can already.


Yeah the Pinoy nowadays also got attitude. So many people feedback of waiters giving problem, personally I have feedback to Stanchart customer service before and the Pinoy manager and Pinoy staff promised to come back and then no news since then.

[aangsc]

strange...no jam using tuas to malaysia this morning at 10am but out at 6:30pm stuck an hour. Now it is getting hard to predict.

[Analytical Professor]

My wife confirm never agree one.


On the way down from the clubhouse, saw a HH caddie who had to walk down as she was in a rush and the bus was late. Asked my wifey if it was ok and we offered her a lift. Sent her to her place at the foot of the hill.

[wuqi256]

The day we can see reports like these is the day they are really serious about accountability, else, everything is hogwash and a smokescreen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOQm6Ls6Ks

Singapore, i still want to believe in you, not just because of what the people have sacrificed in the past for you but for the sake of the many people who still believe in you, now and in the future.

[wuqi256]

Hi Aangsc, its for the HH Liason Committee for the clubhouse.

[Analytical Professor]

Tomorrow i need to get into Singapore around 10am..... Hopefully no jam.

Return to JB at 7pm. No idea which link to take????


strange...no jam using tuas to malaysia this morning at 10am but out at 6:30pm stuck an hour. Now it is getting hard to predict.

[Analytical Professor]

Wuqi yday big guava at Kip mart Rm 1.5/kg and Mangosteen 2kg rm 10.

Not bad.

[wuqi256]

My wife confirm never agree one.

Many times we would stop to give aid, encouragement or at least bottled water to those we see in need on the roads.
Its kind of a habit for me, maybe one day it will kill me but at least i tried to help. Its a very long walk from the clubhouse
down to the foot of the hills.

[aangsc]

Hi Aangsc, its for the HH Liason Committee for the clubhouse.

thanks. Show a frenz HH and make use of chance to complaint to HH sales about the jam and they too feel it is affecting their sales as some potential make u-turn on sat. With this trend, sales of nusajaya will be affected long term.

[Analytical Professor]

Agree with you wuqi.

Definitely many selfless souls in Singapore who really wanna see a gracious, loving, compassionate and yet at the same time progressive Singapore but then...........the.....


The day we can see reports like these is the day they are really serious about accountability, else, everything is hogwash and a smokescreen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOQm6Ls6Ks

Singapore, i still want to believe in you, not just because of what the people have sacrificed in the past for you but for the sake of the many people who still believe in you, now and in the future.

[Analytical Professor]

Agree with you wuqi.

Definitely many selfless souls in Singapore who really wanna see a gracious, loving, compassionate and yet at the same time progressive Singapore but then...........the.....


The day we can see reports like these is the day they are really serious about accountability, else, everything is hogwash and a smokescreen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOQm6Ls6Ks

Singapore, i still want to believe in you, not just because of what the people have sacrificed in the past for you but for the sake of the many people who still believe in you, now and in the future.

[Analytical Professor]

Good thing the big boys in real estate are taking notice. Good for all of us...:)


thanks. Show a frenz HH and make use of chance to complaint to HH sales about the jam and they too feel it is affecting their sales as some potential make u-turn on sat. With this trend, sales of nusajaya will be affected long term.

[Analytical Professor]

Agree bro. I meant in the context of a caddie. Cause you know.... Caddies have a reputation....


Many times we would stop to give aid, encouragement or at least bottled water to those we see in need on the roads.
Its kind of a habit for me, maybe one day it will kill me but at least i tried to help. Its a very long walk from the clubhouse
down to the foot of the hills.

[Analytical Professor]

Ur lucky bro.

Your maid is lucky to have you as her employer. More importantly she appreciates your humaneness, nobility and generosity.

My maid not hard working at all. Doesnot even wanna use any effort... Wipes the floor or the table such that even a little use of force will break my table/floor.

Bring her everywhere we go/buy her things but she takes it for granted.

Even yday.... She got no money... So i advanced her money bought her bottled drinks (her favourite type) and tidbits as well. got her noodles and coffee as well since we were eating out. Not a word of gratitude...

Hi ya nevermind.... My wife just keeps her wanting to be generous... cause she is a single mum. Medicines can give expired one leh.... Talk about passion to work.... Lucky i always check....


Took my wife and my maid to HH for dinner just now. Ordered the same for her as we always ate together. Didn't want her to feel left out. My wife also took her on a tour of the place and just now, there was a very large Swiss/German group who played golf. My maid was like, wow, so many orang putih. Didn't know they were Swiss/German until a lady asked me for directions and i pointed her to the dinner area.

When my maid and my wife went into the ladies, they saw a couple of ladies who were changing openly inside. It was a shocking experience but a funny one when they related to me.

[Analytical Professor]

The plant shop at Kip Mart...

They have 2 types of soil one is the black soil and the other is the organic potting mix.

The black soil is Rm 5/3 bags... I tested out the soil in the shop yday. Looks clayey.... So guys better dun buy.... I guess They have used clay and minimal black soil to get the permeable qualities... Instead i would suggest get the black soil from Tesco.... a bit expensive.... but better and mix it up with your garden soil......

The potting mix (5 in 1) is not bad. I wont say great... But ok. Buy the whole sack. much cheaper.... Ask for whole sack price for the potting mix... Buy individual too expensive.

[Investor]

Great news for Nusajaya!

Iskandar Investment And UEM Land To Jointly Undertake The Lifestyle Retail Mall And Residences @ Medini North, Nusajaya

9 June 2011: UEM Land Berhad had today entered into a Shareholders’ Agreement with Iskandar Harta Holdings Sdn Bhd (IHHSB), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Iskandar Investment Berhad, to jointly undertake the mixed development project in Medini, Nusajaya known as the Lifestyle Retail Mall and Residences @ Medini North... ...

... ... The immediate focus for the development would be Phase 1A, which comprises colonnade-style retail outlets and alfresco dining. Subsequent phases will include entertainment such as cinema, bowling and arcade centre, complemented with distinctive facilities such as indoor ice-skating, laser tag, indoor sky diving and indoor go-kart. With GFA of 200,000 square feet, Phase 1A is targeted to be completed in the September 2012, aligned with the opening of LEGOLAND Malaysia.

... ...strategic location adjacent to LEGOLAND Malaysia, the Lifestyle Retail Mall and Residences @ Medini North has the potential to become a major tourist destination in the region... ...


... ...UEM Land has set a target for Nusajaya, to come alive by 2012. To achieve this, UEM Land has adopted a strategy of concurrent developments within Nusajaya by multiple world-class developers... ...

http://www.uemland.com/mediacentre/20110609.htm

[Investor]

Tiong Nam Invests in Puteri Harbour, Nusajaya
30 MAY 2011

... ...Under the agreement, TPSB will purchase a commercial land parcel in Puteri Harbour, Nusajaya measuring approximately 3.23 acres to be developed into a hotel and serviced apartments... ...

... ...The proposed hotel and serviced apartments by TPSB is in line with UEM Land’s overall vision for Puteri Harbour and is expected to create commercial activities and spillover effects that will add value to Puteri Harbour... ...

... ...With Tiong Nam coming on board; the development of the Family Entertainment Centre and Hotel by Themed Attractions & Resorts Sdn Bhd underway; and a luxurious boutique apartment and retail complex currently in progress by Nusajaya Consolidated Sdn Bhd, a joint venture between UEM Land and United Malayan Land, as well as Encorp Berhad’s proposed development of commercial and residential components, we are well on our way to realizing our vision to develop Puteri Harbour as a premier waterfront destination for the region.”... ...

http://www.uemland.com/mediacentre/20110530.htm

[Analytical Professor]

Japanese Interested in Iskandar Property June 11, 2011


JOHOR BARU: Global Asia Assets (M) Sdn Bhd (GAAM) sees Iskandar Malaysia as offering good prospects to Japanese looking to invest in property development projects outside their home country.

Chief executive officer Fujimura Masanori said the company planned to bring more Japanese investors to invest in the Iskandar Malaysia property market.

He said Johor Baru or Iskandar Malaysia still had ample land for future developments with the prices of properties here still cheaper compared with Kuala Lumpur and Penang.

Fujimura said since setting up its office here last September, about 300 of its Japanese clients had visited Johor Baru and many had shown strong interest to invest in the property market in Iskandar Malaysia.

“They are attracted to Johor Baru's close proximity to Singapore which is a popular destination among Japanese and also the long term prospects of Iskandar Malaysia,'' he told StarBizWeek.

Fujimura said this after signing a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with United Malaysian Land Bhd's subsidiary Seri Alam Properties Sdn Bhd at the Wealth of Iskandar Malaysia Conference recently.

Seri Alam Properties will develop 110 units of bungalows on an 8.09ha site overlooking a lake in Bandar Seri Alam township in Pasir Gudang with a gross development value between RM200mil and RM400mil.

The project is known as Japanese Holiday Homes with each bungalow having a built-up area of 2,200 sq ft and a land size of 4,500 sq ft with its own swimming pool and a club house.

GAAM is a subsidiary of Global Asset Asia Investment Ltd (GAAI), a holding company incorporated in Hong Kong whose clients are mostly high net worth Japanese investors.

“It (the group) has 10,000 cash-rich Japanese clients who are serious investors and always on the look-out to enhance their investment portfolios,'' said Fujimura.

GAAM general manager Takahiro Sakanoue said this was the company's second purchase in the Johor Baru market after the acquisition of two high end luxury condominium blocks of Molek Pine 3, in Taman Molek for RM200mil early this year.

The 28-storey tower block consisting of 212 units and a six-storey block with 36 units, are being developed by Tanjung Bintang Sdn Bhd, which comes under Berinda Group, a property development arm of Kuok Group.

On the bungalows at Seri Alam township, he said it was impossible to get a bungalow of similar size in Tokyo as the city was already densely populated.

Takahiro said a similar bungalow located in the suburbs of Tokyo, about 30 minutes by train to the city centre and minus the lake view, cost a whopping RM37mil each, and a that bungalow in an area about one hour's train ride from the city would sell about RM19mil.

“Our clients love properties in Johor Baru as they are considered bargains for them,'' he said.

Takahiro said Johor Baru was well known to the Japanese after the country's soccer team qualified for the World Cup after beating Iran at Larkin Stadium here in 1997. He said Iskandar Malaysia would also be a good location for Japanese manufacturers planning to relocate their operations elsewhere in view of the natural disasters in Japan, such as earthquakes.

Takahiro said the company would be looking at several options when investing in property projects in Iskandar Malaysia, including having joint-ventures with local partners, buying the properties en bloc or acquiring certain equities in companies. Other than Malaysia, GAAI has similar investments in Canada, China, Cambodia, Europe, Hong Kong, Japan, Macau, Thailand, USA and the Philippines.

By The Star

[Analytical Professor]

Nusa Jaya on Track to come alive by 2012

Kuala Lumpur: Developer UEM Land Holdings Bhd says its Nusajaya township, the key driver of the Iskandar Malaysia emerging economic zone in Johor, is on track to "come alive" in 2012 as targeted.

UEM Land is the master developer of Nusajaya, which is a tenth the size of Iskandar, but the largest integrated urban development in Southeast Asia.

"In 2012, there'll be enough critical mass and completion of projects. Post-2012, a new demand structure will evolve ... and with that, comes better profits," managing director Datuk Wan Abdullah Wan Ibrahim told reporters here yesterday.

Projects that are expected to be completed include the Coastal Highway, which will improve accessibility to Nusajaya. This is expected to be done by the end of this year, ahead of schedule, he said.

Healthcare-wise, there is already Columbia Asia Hospital, while Khazanah Nasional is poised to start on a 350-bed hospital soon.

As for education, Newcastle University Medicine will open this year, and next year, University of Southampton will be completed while Netherlands Maritime Institute of Technology will take on a new campus, Wan Abdullah said.

Theme park Legoland Malaysia will be completed in September next year, while an indoor theme park that is in the advanced stage of construction at Puteri Harbour will be completed by year-end.

As for residential occupancy, there are currently 20,000 homes occupied, which works out to a population equivalent of 100,000, he said.

The ultimate plan is for Nusajaya to have 100,000 homes over time, or a population equivalent of half a million.

Wan Abdullah was speaking at an event to formalise its subsidiary UEM Land Bhd's 55:45 joint venture with Iskandar Harta Holdings Sdn Bhd to develop a mall-and-residence project in Medini, Nusajaya.

The project, known as the Lifestyle Retail Mall and Residences @Medini North, is expected to generate sales of RM850 million.

"This is one of our initiatives to build up a portfolio of recurring income to weather any (property) downcycle," he remarked.

The first phase of the mall is targeted for completion in September next year to coincide with the opening of the Legoland, which is a 200-metre walk away.

Visitors have to go through the mall to get to Legoland, Wan Abdullah said.

The Iskandar project was launched in 2006 to much scepticism about its viability and prospects.

OSK Research, in a report earlier this week after attending a conference that centred on the developments in Iskandar, said it has turned optimistic on its prospects.

"We gather that just like the majority of us, when the entire (Iskandar) project was first launched in 2006, the locals had been sceptical, but have over the years progressively turned more optimistic, especially after witnessing the progress that Iskandar has made to date," it said in the report.

It maintained an "overweight" call on the property sector and said that given the "favourable" outlook for the property market in Iskandar, it had a preference for property developers with sizeable exposure in Iskandar such as UEM Land, SP Setia Bhd and Plenitude Bhd.

By Business Times

[mrbean]

Hi there. I posted an earlier message enquiring abt Casa Almyra but you may have missed it. You mentioned your neighbors curse abt that project. Care to elaborate what the issues are? Thanks in advance.

Your thread has been most informative. Your pm is always full. You can pm me too.

[contra]

Hi Aangsc, its for the HH Liason Committee for the clubhouse.


Hi wuqi, is it a chance to discuss about any common issues of the residences or was it just about the clubhouse?

[contra]

Hi HH

Yeah, very shiong. Will be RM74,500 each time, as purchase price is RM745,800...

But BLR in M'sia very high at 6.6%. S'pore savings interest rate in bank only pays 0.25%. Might as well try to pay cash, rather than keep the money in the bank and earn miserable interest, whilst paying 4.5% to M'sian bank. Doesn't make sense.

Moreover, since it's under construction, can't rent out and use rental to service the instalments. So trying not to take loan, and will have to accumulate cash over 24 months to pay. Luckily it's progressive payments. Any idea how often the developer will call for payments? Once every 3 months?

Hi Nusajayaphile,
I concur on your rationale of paying off the loan as much as possible . But I decided to take homesmart loan from HSBC JB. It is around BLR minus 2.4%. I found it most flexible option for my circumstances; can prepay and redraw if in need of the money. It is more a fall-back flexibility just in case I need my money in Singapore for personal financial flexibility. But everytime a call is made, the plan is remit the money, to the max amount I can afford at the time, from my Singapore bank to JB bank. If is short, then I will have to pay the bite-size monthly repayment. They will give you a swift code to make international remittance to. The catch is you must not settle the loan within 5 years (they got to make some money) otherwise penalty.

... But if you are cash rich anyway, just dont bother with all this :) and go with straight money changer option. One kind forumer suggested before to remit money in small tranches across until you get confidence in the money changer, and can find few of them in Parkway Parade.

You will know the repayment schedule when you sign the SPA. It goes on avg 10% tranches with some in-between higher.

[Investor]

Confirmed projects in Medini, other than Legoland, Lifestyle retail mall and 1 Medini, are Medini Residences, Medini Square, Legoland Theme Hotel, hospital, school and office towers. Here's the link(click on "Proposed developments") http://www.medini.com.my/maps/north

[Malapore]

WoW! It took me half a day to read thru all pages in this forum. Excellent postings and accurate information. Thumbs up!

I do not have a big budget (RM500K) but really wish to get a place near Bukit Indah esp Aeon, Tesco area. HH is a good place but exceed budget. Went to Horizon Residence and almost 90% sold. Limited units to choose from.

Guess luck and timing not on my side.

[Malapore]

May I ask which is the best route to drive from Punggol to HH? I've tried 2nd Link and it takes me a good 25 minutes drive to reach Tuas.

[abugumgum]

AP,

Something happened, not good to share here, we decided it is best for us to go back.

Not travelling issue.

I hesitated in sharing our latest encounter in this thread, not wanting to affect anyone reading it (active and passive readers). But a few have asked me to share the encounter.

I am just like everyone here, wanting to start living in Johor, and am glad to find this thread while doing my research before coming over. I started back in 2009 and finally convinced my family to move in May 2011.

We have stayed for a month and settled in already in Johor. Then it happened.

Our unit was broken in, together with our 2 neighbour units on the same floor (we stay in a condo with security)

My wife was in shock and very shaken. The burglars waited for us and our neighbours to go out before breaking in.

It happened within 1 hour when we were just downstairs and still in the estate.

Then we read in papers to find a similar case:

10 homes broken into in 3 hours
JOHOR BARU: Ten apartment units at Bayu Puteri 3 near Permas Jaya here were broken into and robbed of cash and jewellery worth about RM200,000 over a span of just three hours.
All it took was 18 minutes to break into each unit, leaving one wondering how the thief or thieves was so fast and lucky in each of the attempt.

The string of thefts in the 10 units from three apartments adjacent to each other occured at noon on Wednesday when all the occupants were out at work.


Noraina Mohamad, 25, and her sister, Noramalina, 28, only knew about the break-in after they reached home at 8pm.

Noticing that the grille had been cut and the door damaged, both entered the house to find it had been ransacked.

Noramalina went to her bedroom and found her RM100,000 cash missing.


Another victim, B. Mogana, 24, said it took an expert to break into 10 houses within such a short span.

"I lost RM20,000 worth of jewellery and some cash.

"I never knew the security here was so bad.


"Being able to break into 10 units within three hours is no easy task.

"It also speaks volumes of the poor security."

The victims lodged reports at the Permas Jaya police station.

Johor Baru South deputy police chief Superintendent Abdul Samad Salleh confirmed the break-ins and said the intruder or intruders must have broken into the units when all the occupants were away.

"We will enhance our patrol in the area."

http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/22lastly/Article/

Now we are back to Sgp.

While I am still willing to try to live in Johor, my wife is too afraid to try, we have no choice but to change plan.

I really appreciate help in finding a buyer for my car.

Thanks.

[Malapore]

Sorry to hear about your plight. This indeed is a well planned housebreaking committed by seasoned housebreakers. Come to think of it, to cut open grilles and doors requires pretty heavy equipments which would generate certain level of noise. If there is a construction site or renovation going on within the condo, it would be the best cover up. But to hit the Rm100K jackpot isn't pure luck. Some guys must have been monitoring within the condo and tipped off to the perpetrators.

The modus operandi makes it pretty obvious that it's an insiders' job. The lapse in security is a big issue here. They really need a harsh law to deter crime like what we did to drugs.

[Malapore]

Its the one at the interchange, opposite the macdonalds and beside bata shoe shop. Just a small simple counter. I think their rates are the best around the east area. No bargaining though.

I went to the same money changer yesterday. Displayed rate was 244.3 for sum above S$300 only. I wanna change 2k and asked for better rate. Guy says "Sorry! Best offer!"

The location is pretty easu to find. It's directly opps Mcdonalds at Bedok Bus Interchange. Right beside a 4D outlet and a bank. BATA shoe shop is also there.

[karmabear]

Why you so loser? When i was in Sydney, my house broken into 3 times in 5 years. I bet if it was an Ang Moh country, you will find it acceptable... Zzzzz...

I saw the news clips... This is JB. How many people have $100K cash at home? $20K in gold and jewelry is believable if you are Singaporean.... So what is the solution? Just don't keep valuables at home. FYI, the most expensive thing I lost in the break ins was my laptop...along with a few hundred dollars.

[mallow]

I hesitated in sharing our latest encounter in this thread, not wanting to affect anyone reading it (active and passive readers). But a few have asked me to share the encounter. I am just like everyone here, wanting to start living in Johor, and am glad to find this thread while doing my research before coming over. I started back in 2009 and finally convinced my family to move in May 2011. We have stayed for a month and settled in already in Johor. Then it happened.Our unit was broken in, together with our 2 neighbour units on the same floor (we stay in a condo with security) ... Now we are back to Sgp. ...While I am still willing to try to live in Johor, my wife is too afraid to try, we have no choice but to change plan.

Dear abugumgum
I am sure I speak for many on this thread when I express my deep sympathies for your nasty experience. Hope you did not lose too much. The feelings of outrage and violation are difficult to come to terms with. The ONLY thing that is remotely a relief is that you were not home, because a personal confrontation with armed robbers - with the real risk of violence - is worse.
It is not our place to demand better security from our host country - they know very well that investment will be withdrawn or halted if they cannot provide this.
As we have chosen to take the risk, for many reasons including enjoying the many good points about living here (investment opportunities aside), then we would be wise to take security into our own hands. Steps would include demanding proper guards if we are paying for it in monthly fees.
In the home: solid grilles, quality locks, guard dogs outside and (even yappy lap) dogs inside, quality alarms and all the non-lethal protection you can summon up.
It is a choice we make and need to live within the parameters of.
It will take a while to get over the shock ... don't make decisions in haste. And if you still choose to live in Singapore, that may be a good choice for you.
There is a trade off whether you live in Singapore or Johor ... only your family can decide for itself what is best to do. There is theft and robbery in all countries - this is growing also in Singapore, and it is a myth that crime is negligible there; although it is certainly less obvious for now. In almost all other 'developed' countries crime is already taken for granted, and people have learned to cope and take the necessary precautions.
We are committed to living here and hope to continue in very careful peace.
Deep breaths x

[Analytical Professor]

We should never revel in the misfortune or tragedy of fellow humans.

I for one definitely am not a sucker for ang mohs. I do not condone such acts.




Why you so loser? When i was in Sydney, my house broken into 3 times in 5 years. I bet if it was an Ang Moh country, you will find it acceptable... Zzzzz...

I saw the news clips... This is JB. How many people have $100K cash at home? $20K in gold and jewelry is believable if you are Singaporean.... So what is the solution? Just don't keep valuables at home. FYI, the most expensive thing I lost in the break ins was my laptop...along with a few hundred dollars.

[euphony]

wow the good news seems to be dribbling in. i am rubbing my palms in anticipation of the realization of the new developments. despite all the setbacks i hope this will slowly reverse the downwards trend both in perception and past 'empty' promises. =)

[euphony]

WoW! It took me half a day to read thru all pages in this forum. Excellent postings and accurate information. Thumbs up!

I do not have a big budget (RM500K) but really wish to get a place near Bukit Indah esp Aeon, Tesco area. HH is a good place but exceed budget. Went to Horizon Residence and almost 90% sold. Limited units to choose from.

Guess luck and timing not on my side.

if you are a malaysian, you still have pockets of opportunities even in HH (resale) if you're not bound by the 500k limit. if sgporean perhaps re-evaluate your finances incoming and outgoing and plan ahead. don't totally give up. I was in a somewhat similar situation for the longest time until recently. there will be a big housing supply coming into fruition come 2012/2013 perhaps then it may be easier? dun give up! =)

[euphony]

May I ask which is the best route to drive from Punggol to HH? I've tried 2nd Link and it takes me a good 25 minutes drive to reach Tuas.

Pending JB coastal highway? For now, i'd prefer using the expressways to get to tuas even from punggol. JB city traffic and perling/skudai trafffic may be terrible in peak hours, at least heading to tuas is opposite to peak flow mostly. But off peak hours can use the causeway over tuas.

[Skippy]

Went to the LC AGM today for HH, maybe my haircut didn't help. First thing when i met up with folks there going in for the event, their questions:

1. Where is your father?
2. Are you representing him?
3. Are you really a member?

Funny, suffered so many years and then working 2-3 jobs and finally doing ok. The moment you are doing ok, people give you problems. They ignore you or say behind your back, that guy is here because of his family. Its impossible for someone so young to be here.

I just smiled politely and told them my dad was overseas. They seemed to think that everything i have is from my dad. Well in a way it is for if not for him, i wouldn't be here(born).

Back then, at age 25, i had a Benz, told myself my first car will be this. My pay then was slightly higher than my current now so i always told myself, that was my golden years. Folks though, have a tendancy to always assume people are financed by their dads/family when they see people with nicer cars. I never bullied people in my capacity and always tried to be humble.

Only recently did some relatives know of my past drawn, even then it was by accident. All these years, those who laughed at me when they said they earned 3k a month, i never said anything but congratulated them. They even laughed at me when i took my wife for honeymoon as they thought we didn't have money for a wedding dinner. Even teased us saying how come you no money, go do wedding dinner at void deck lah, no money to buy 3 room flat, buy 2 room lah.

Little did they know, after suffering all these years because of family issues and always being looked down upon, the minute you are doing ok, people turn around and accuse you of being here because of your dad?

Worse, there was a relative who had 2, lets say average kids. She would always say, oh your dad is so good to you guys, drove you guys to school every day, give so much pocket money, he must have let you attend university in order for you to get where you are. My sons are useless because their father is so bad, take their money, use their savings to pay debts, beat them with a hammer, etc. She always side with her sons and never made them face the truth, in the end, her constant cover ups led to her sons becoming worse.

Well, i didn't get to attend school after 15, it was all on my own, my right and left hands still have permanent fractures. Parts of my ligament were even permanently torn.

Lets not even talk about the many debts and getting people out of trouble. I found it ironical that the same people who despised me and my family because of him now attributes all our successes to him.

Worse, some folks here would even boast to us they cover regional, etc. I take the lead from one of my uncles who is always humble despite being an ex GM of many big companies, thats why i always just smiled, never felt tempted to ask the irritating guys if their shiny BMW are from their dad. :)

I would be happy to see people succeeding, even those who are younger. There is no minimum age to achieve success, just because you can only get a semi-d/ bungalow at age 50 does not meant others cannot do it earlier than you. People who are better than you and me number in the tens of thousands and many are younger too. Always get the attitude here and at the clubhouse, are you sure you are the member, isn't your dad coming, how much did your dad buy his house for ah? Oh, its yours? Is it a present from him? Wow, you got tenants, you mean your dads tenants is it? So many cars outside your house, how much did your dad pay for his cars?

Sorry for this rant, need to get it out of my system, after this i am fine as i try not to let people like that bother me. :)



Hi Bro Wuqi,

Pls dun be bothered with such pple of the world cos they just simply got nothing better to do. I cannot say i feel how u feel entirely but i came across such relatives and friends. You may be the one from the guy side saying this... i'm sharing from a gal side.
Was frm gal skool since, and many of the gals in skool are either filthy rich or FT's kids. Managed to get a slot cos family donating computers or big $$funds so they can get a place to study in sg. When they do wrong or got caught for many stuff... $$ can settle under the table. Well if u wan to say, money can make wonders, i think it did not help to really teach the kids the right mindset. As for my relatives, they have always stigmatised that my family is poor and pathetic cos no car, one kid and only a 3 room flat. I was pretty upsad from their actions and claimed being a part in the family. I told myself i better work darn DARN hard to get $$ to buy a brand new car. So passed my Driving licence once and then head to buy a new car with my Papa's name (cheaper insurance). Hoe.. my relatives change colour right away... the lunar new year, called my mom and asked her over for dinner and keep reminding us to turn up. There after many many things change and it start to make me feel weird... even till today, they keep callin to ask my folks to drive them in to see hses, enjoy makan and keep saying y didnt update them on the purchases of hse in jb & etc... to me i'm still working hard to get my parents a better place to live & retire and hope to do my best for them. I guess it longer bothers me how others see... it's more of the family kinship. i do know pple like to calculate with you... but sometimes some things cant just use figures to balance them. I just hope that my folks are safe and healthy and in their lifetime, they have the best ever, so long i can do for them within my means. I'm sure every kid has the same heart for their parents.

Sorry for the long one...

[euphony]

I hesitated in sharing our latest encounter in this thread, not wanting to affect anyone reading it (active and passive readers). But a few have asked me to share the encounter.

I am just like everyone here, wanting to start living in Johor, and am glad to find this thread while doing my research before coming over. I started back in 2009 and finally convinced my family to move in May 2011.

We have stayed for a month and settled in already in Johor. Then it happened.

am so sorry to hear about your cautionary tale. no wonder the current condo i am staying in have got warning message in the lift and they are reacting immediately to step up security even though there are no cases here. but i am going to take precautions and step up my own security measures nonetheless.

the bayu puteri area i have considered before when deciding to shift into jb. but decided against for a variety of reasons. If you're keen to venture back again perhaps bring your wife to developments which are more focused on security. She can see for herself and feel more confident. It is definitely no guarantee but at least chances are much reduced.

Again, I'm sorry to hear about your traumatic experience. Hope you'd adjust back to norm back in SG.

[karmabear]

We should never revel in the misfortune or tragedy of fellow humans.

I for one definitely am not a sucker for ang mohs. I do not condone such acts.

How the hell am I reveling in his misfortune? What acts are you condoning? Look, you have to learn to step out of your comfort zone. I didn't go crying home when my house was broken into... What is this bullshit about oh I feel so sorry for you blah blah blah... Sure, stay in Singapore while the water boils. Whatever rocks your boat...

[austin_hts]

Hi Prof

Occasional indulgence shld be ok lah... egg prata for rm1.50. Mutton curry is delicious.

Btw, there is a new Taiwanese Puff Restaurant at Austin (near international school, same row as the E&Y 24 hrs prata eatery). Puffs with a wide variety of fillings are great. Serves also nasi lemak (rm7.50) and western food (rm13 up) too. Small portion, a little expensive, but taste good.

Prof, any good restaurants to recommend at Setia Tropika area?



HOme breakfast for me today.

Cant eat from mamak shops. Unhealthy. My opinion...

[austin_hts]

I went to Western Union for my first payment. S$10 service fee. Issue cash cheque to Western Union. Exchange rate was good/ok. Need to show prove of purchasing property (eg Receipt, SPA).


Originally Posted by nusajayaphile
Anyone can supply name and address of moneychanger in Singapore who will remit RM over to developer's bank account in JB?

Trying not to take a loan to finance our purchase of a link house in The Hills Precinct. So need to remit RM over each time the developer calls for payment.

Tried asking a few moneychangers in Singapore, but none of them offer this service. In fact, 1 or 2 of them gave me a strange look, like I'm money laundering, not realizing it's to pay for a house. Would appreciate fourumers' tips on how to remit ringgit over.

Also, because payment is progressive, any idea how often the developer will call for payment? I know that the house has got to be completed within 2 years, but I think it will be faster than that. Construction has not commenced yet, and we are still in the option period - have not signed SPA yet. Once they start, how fast will they complete the foundation, r.c. framework, brick walls. etc? Need to arrange for cash flow to fund the purchase.

Thanks to all in advance, for any advice.


Raffles money change pte ltd

[abugumgum]

Dear all,

It is not my aim to affect or discourage people from living in johor. You can read it just as "another" story in the newspaper.

However, do step up security measures immediately ( as Mallow has kindly shared). Do not wait or hesitate (if you are still considering for whatever reasons).

Sure, it is not 100% foolproof, however, the deterrence will be helpful as well as slow down the burglars if they come, giving more time to react. We have to protect ourselves.

Yes Mallow, we are thankful not to bump into the burglars (we were in the estate and away for 1 hour from the unit).

I have to take care for my family's well being and interest, not everyone is built with same threshold, hence the first and foremost thing to do is to pacify her and reassure her safety.

It is certainly not because I did not expect crime, not because we did not have taken security steps, nor it is because this is not Ang Moh Country (so that we cannot accept).

We have just become part of the statistics that's all. Our break-in is just one day after the Permas Jaya case, with similar operations. Just tough luck to happen so early in our stay here (we are settling in and very happy)

Maybe we will be back again in Johor one day.

[abugumgum]

Money Changer at Bedok Interchange, housed together with the mama shop near the row of malay food side.

244.3

[austin_hts]

Hi
Can update us on the sales of The Hills Terrace? Any new launches?
Thanks.


Anyone can supply name and address of moneychanger in Singapore who will remit RM over to developer's bank account in JB?

Trying not to take a loan to finance our purchase of a link house in The Hills Precinct. So need to remit RM over each time the developer calls for payment.

Tried asking a few moneychangers in Singapore, but none of them offer this service. In fact, 1 or 2 of them gave me a strange look, like I'm money laundering, not realizing it's to pay for a house. Would appreciate fourumers' tips on how to remit ringgit over.

Also, because payment is progressive, any idea how often the developer will call for payment? I know that the house has got to be completed within 2 years, but I think it will be faster than that. Construction has not commenced yet, and we are still in the option period - have not signed SPA yet. Once they start, how fast will they complete the foundation, r.c. framework, brick walls. etc? Need to arrange for cash flow to fund the purchase.

Thanks to all in advance, for any advice.

[nusajayaphile]

Raffles money change pte ltd

Thanks, ginfreely, for the name of the moneychanger.

[Analytical Professor]

Talking about Prata one of my friends asked me to Da Bao cheese prata from balestier food centre. He asked for 2. guess the price. S$6 for 2.

I was shocked.

Surprisingly the prata is made by a guy from China. Incidentally he makes the teh tarik and kopi tarik there as well....

No bro at Setia Tropika no great place to eat.

Ofcourse we have KFC, Pizza Hut and Starbucks and soon Macdonalds, Wendys and Kenny Roasters....

But the shop houses.... nothing fantastic from my perspective....

I am not sure if anyone else has a different opinion.

Cathy, what do you have to say?

BTW i tried the Magic Mushroom pub. My wife felt it was a bit sleazy for comfort. So stopped going there. Too dark inside.... So you know what happens or what is supposed to happen....






Hi Prof

Occasional indulgence shld be ok lah... egg prata for rm1.50. Mutton curry is delicious.

Btw, there is a new Taiwanese Puff Restaurant at Austin (near international school, same row as the E&Y 24 hrs prata eatery). Puffs with a wide variety of fillings are great. Serves also nasi lemak (rm7.50) and western food (rm13 up) too. Small portion, a little expensive, but taste good.

Prof, any good restaurants to recommend at Setia Tropika area?

[Analytical Professor]

Yday only went out to Church and that was it.

Ate at home whole day courtesy my mum who cooked and my wife who made the occasional coffee.

My idea to go KSL mall/find the toddy shop/visit cafes-bistros in the Austin area was tossed out the window by my wife....

So yeah the kids studied atleast 6-7 hours yday. Maybe home schooling is an option to be considered... But then the kids miss out on the social interaction skills part....

Wah the kids got the stick from my wife..... Quite painful la teaching the kids.... But i strongly believe parents are the childs best tutors..... Tution is not or never an option.... If ever tuition is the only alternative left..... regular monitoring of tuition is essential......

And then of course the once a week or twice a week tuition does not work at all.....

[nusajayaphile]

I use ALLBEST

1 Jurong West Central 2 #B1-36A JP1
Jurong Point Shopping Centre
Singapore 648886

also have one at Boon Lay shopping.
All Best Enterprise
221 Boon Lay Place
#01-156 Boon Lay Shopping Centre S640221
Location:
Jurong West / Boon Lay

Thank you very much, aangsc. Very useful info.

[Analytical Professor]

Couple of times i have looked at the pork at Tesco. Does not look great at all....

The one at Jusco looks really good compared to the Tesco pork..

My observation.....

[Analytical Professor]

Causeway gets jam relief as new system breaks down

Most wait just 1 hour or less as biometric system fails for most of the day
By Fiona Low

At 6.45pm yesterday, the Causeway was almost empty in both directions. When The Straits Times drove through, it took just half an hour to go in and out of JB.

TRAVELLERS crossing the Causeway were yesterday spared the gruelling jams that have plagued the checkpoints for the last two weeks - after the new biometric system that has been causing the chaos broke down.

The system - in which every person has to spend time having his or her fingerprints scanned - was out for a large part of the day, said Malaysian checkpoint officers.

They said it was being fixed, and would be up and running again by today.

Travellers who spoke to The Straits Times said they took between half an hour and an hour to clear Malaysian immigration and customs yesterday evening.

This was a far cry from the seven-hour wait reported on Saturday.

When The Straits Times drove through the Causeway at about 5.30pm yesterday, traffic was smooth and it took about half an hour to go in and out of the neighbouring state.

[wuqi256]

Dear abugumgum;

Please don't give up, i feel for you. Don't let one incident shake you. Also, Permas Jaya = Bad area. I have always asked my friends never to live near there, Johor Jaya is another one.

Not to say elsewhere is 100% safe but stats are against you especially for condos. Its easier to harden (for security) in many ways yet also one of the hardest as no one may be on the floor you are on and no matter what locks you have, its only a matter of time they get in.

There is a reason i never bought a condo here. You can go to carlist.com.my and list it for sale but its a real pity. If you have no place to park your car in MY, i may be able to help for your special case.

[Analytical Professor]

Cycling cops to patrol residential areas in Johor
The Star/Asia News Network
Mon, Jun 13, 2011

JOHOR BARU, Malaysia - Police officers will soon be making their rounds in residential areas on bicycles.

Southern OCPD Asst Comm Zainuddin Yaacob said the police have formed the bicycle patrol team - Ronda & Riadah - in line with the GTP's NKRA on reducing crime.

ACP Zainuddin said policemen on bicycles would patrol housing areas with eight to 25 personnel per unit from 12am to 7am daily.

He said that the decision to utilise bicycles was to provide a silent and discreet patrol compared with using motor vehicles.

Police officers equipped with walkie-talkies, vests and weapons would cordon entry points and quiet spots of residential areas that have higher incidences of crime.

He said break-ins and snatch thefts were more common between 3am and 5am.

Five hotspots in the Johor Baru South district - Taman Pelangi Indah, Taman Setia Indah, Larkin, Taman Pelangi and the city centre - have been identified to be the focus of the bicycle patrol.

He said bicycle patrols have already been deployed in Plentong, Permas Jaya and Taman Setia Indah.

ACP Zainuddin said the police were currently encouraging the public to participate in the patrol to build a stronger community spirit.

A total of 72 volunteers from the community have joined the bicycle patrol

[abugumgum]

Couple of times i have looked at the pork at Tesco. Does not look great at all....

The one at Jusco looks really good compared to the Tesco pork..

My observation.....

Yes, Tesco non-halal section not great. For pork, we went to Jin He 锦和 or Bestmart.

[Analytical Professor]

Yeah i looked at the TESCO non halal section a couple of times.

now give up already.

Does not look fresh either.

So Jusco is good for me.

Yes Wuqi mentioned Best mart several times.

i really need to go and check that place out...


Yes, Tesco non-halal section not great. For pork, we went to Jin He 锦和 or Bestmart.

[Analytical Professor]

I only got 243.5 in Bukit Indah


Money Changer at Bedok Interchange, housed together with the mama shop near the row of malay food side.

244.3

[austin_hts]

Hope to hear some good news on the transport link bet Spore & JB soon... getting a little impatient.

My wish is that (i) motorcyclists will switch to rail/rapid transport (ii) build third link, say between Punggol and Pasir Gudang? (iii) more lanes at existing two links. Wonder why there is only one 'official' lane for cars heading towards malaysia custom at causeway. It is a new road and yet no provision?

Number of cars/people moving between JB-Spore can only increase gog forward !


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Announcement in late 2010.

Business Times
Oct 18, 2010
Rapid rail to Johor
By Rachel Lin

DISCUSSIONS are under way on the proposed rapid transit system (RTS) linking Singapore and Johor, Foreign Minister George Yeo told the House on Monday.

The areas being explored include whether the RTS should be above or under water, and how to link it to the public transport networks in both countries.

'The RTS link will be a major infrastructural project,' Mr Yeo said. 'Both sides are doing detailed studies and they have to meet to discuss what will best serve their mutual needs in the most cost-effective way.'

Engineering studies and cost analyses have to be undertaken, he added.

The RTS, which should be up and running by 2018, was agreed to in May as part of the breakthrough negotiations over Malayan Railway land.

Mr Yeo was responding to a question from Madam Halimah Yacob (Jurong GRC), who had asked for an update on the Malayan Railway land swop, which got the green light last month.

[abugumgum]

Dear abugumgum;

Please don't give up, i feel for you. Don't let one incident shake you. Also, Permas Jaya = Bad area. I have always asked my friends never to live near there, Johor Jaya is another one.

You can go to carlist.com.my and list it for sale but its a real pity. If you have no place to park your car in MY, i may be able to help for your special case.

Thank you wuqi, I will do so. I have asked around the second hand car dealers, the price offered is a big loss for me, especially it is still so new, just 1 month +. I really appreciate your kind offer to help.

[aangsc]

Hi
Can update us on the sales of The Hills Terrace? Any new launches?
Thanks.

Brought someone to sales office yesterday. Apparently the good one such as corner lots and those with good facing or the outter ones were all gone. There is waiting list for those hoping to buy the bumi lots.those inner intermediate terrace still available and price from 7XX-8xx K (2900sqft-3500sqft) ? Seems that the terrace built these day are bigger in size.

[Analytical Professor]

This crime thingie is really annoying...

I understand your situation. No amount of empathy, sympathy from us will console you.

The victims who have felt the heat know the situation best.

The emotional and psychological trauma are hard to delete from immediate memory.

Different victims react differently to situations:

1) There are stewardesses who are molested and laugh at it as a way of life
2) There are stewardesses who get molested and then decide to make a money out of their way of life
3) Then there are those stewardesses who get molested and never recover... The trauma, agony and mental pain live on

Your wifes feelings and state of mind are completely justified.

Assuring her of her safety and security is paramount.... And after that .... the psychological well being.....

Time heals..... Give yourself and your wife time to recover.

Dun act in haste.... You can rethink your situation when you have calmed down.




Dear all,

It is not my aim to affect or discourage people from living in johor. You can read it just as "another" story in the newspaper.

However, do step up security measures immediately ( as Mallow has kindly shared). Do not wait or hesitate (if you are still considering for whatever reasons).

Sure, it is not 100% foolproof, however, the deterrence will be helpful as well as slow down the burglars if they come, giving more time to react. We have to protect ourselves.

Yes Mallow, we are thankful not to bump into the burglars (we were in the estate and away for 1 hour from the unit).

I have to take care for my family's well being and interest, not everyone is built with same threshold, hence the first and foremost thing to do is to pacify her and reassure her safety.

It is certainly not because I did not expect crime, not because we did not have taken security steps, nor it is because this is not Ang Moh Country (so that we cannot accept).

We have just become part of the statistics that's all. Our break-in is just one day after the Permas Jaya case, with similar operations. Just tough luck to happen so early in our stay here (we are settling in and very happy)

Maybe we will be back again in Johor one day.

[Analytical Professor]

From Punggol.... Let me think:

1) TPE - PIE
2) TPE - CTE - AYE - PIE
3) TPE - ECP - AYE - PIE
4) TPE - SLE - BKE - CIQ - Danga Bay - Perling - Link Dua Expressway
5) TPE - SLE - BKE - KJE - PIE Tuas

I think (5) is best option.

Eh Grago hope i did not make mistakes....


May I ask which is the best route to drive from Punggol to HH? I've tried 2nd Link and it takes me a good 25 minutes drive to reach Tuas.

[austin_hts]

Thanks for the update.
Yes, higher price due to appreciation, bigger size and perhaps bec The Hills is nearer to the clubhouse and has direct access (side gate).



Brought someone to sales office yesterday. Apparently the good one such as corner lots and those with good facing or the outter ones were all gone. There is waiting list for those hoping to buy the bumi lots.those inner intermediate terrace still available and price from 7XX-8xx K (2900sqft-3500sqft) ? Seems that the terrace built these day are bigger in size.

[hangyong]

From Punggol.... Let me think:

1) TPE - PIE
2) TPE - CTE - AYE - PIE
3) TPE - ECP - AYE - PIE
4) TPE - SLE - BKE - CIQ - Danga Bay - Perling - Link Dua Expressway
5) TPE - SLE - BKE - KJE - PIE Tuas

I think (5) is best option.

Eh Grago hope i did not make mistakes....

I think 4 is the best leh.... Else is 1

[nusajayaphile]

Hi Nusajayaphile,
I concur on your rationale of paying off the loan as much as possible . But I decided to take homesmart loan from HSBC JB. It is around BLR minus 2.4%. I found it most flexible option for my circumstances; can prepay and redraw if in need of the money. It is more a fall-back flexibility just in case I need my money in Singapore for personal financial flexibility. But everytime a call is made, the plan is remit the money, to the max amount I can afford at the time, from my Singapore bank to JB bank. If is short, then I will have to pay the bite-size monthly repayment. They will give you a swift code to make international remittance to. The catch is you must not settle the loan within 5 years (they got to make some money) otherwise penalty.

... But if you are cash rich anyway, just dont bother with all this :) and go with straight money changer option. One kind forumer suggested before to remit money in small tranches across until you get confidence in the money changer, and can find few of them in Parkway Parade.

You will know the repayment schedule when you sign the SPA. It goes on avg 10% tranches with some in-between higher.

Hi contra, many thanks for the useful info about the Homesmart loan from HSBC. Might consider this, if really cash-strapped. As you said, it's a good fallback to have. Really appreciate the tip.

[Analytical Professor]

What makes you think that the forummer who shared his tragedy with us went home crying? What makes you think that the forummer even wanted to share?

It was we who cajoled him into sharing and despite that... he never asked for our sympathies or empathies....

The boat has been rocked..... and several other boats are getting rocked as well....

Its human to sympathise or empathise..... even it it equates to nothing...... But if its bullshit for you well we know you then...:*::*:


How the hell am I reveling in his misfortune? What acts are you condoning? Look, you have to learn to step out of your comfort zone. I didn't go crying home when my house was broken into... What is this bullshit about oh I feel so sorry for you blah blah blah... Sure, stay in Singapore while the water boils. Whatever rocks your boat...

[Analytical Professor]

Ur a born genius. Your wisdom is far superior than our collective wisdom put together which suggests that we empathise/sympathise.....as has been reflected in the posts by forummers here.


What is this bullshit about oh I feel so sorry for you blah blah blah...

[Analytical Professor]

I am sorry bro.

Yes i should have mentioned (4) is best....

Followed by (5)

(1) is not bad also.... But if you ever kena the PIE jam (unpredictable as it is) confirm die sia....


I think 4 is the best leh.... Else is 1

[nusajayaphile]

Hi
Can update us on the sales of The Hills Terrace? Any new launches?
Thanks.

Cluster semi-dees launched 2 weeks ago at The Hills Precinct. Priced at RM910K upwards. 32x75. A bit narrow design though, compared to the spacious link houses.

[Analytical Professor]

You did your MACS yday while in the jam ah?

Smart .... never wasted ur time.....


By giving black face to everyone, sleeping in the car, walking to the immigration to apply for MACS, pee, buy drinks, change shift... Do over again.... Hahaha

[Skippy]

Dear all,

It is not my aim to affect or discourage people from living in johor. You can read it just as "another" story in the newspaper.

However, do step up security measures immediately ( as Mallow has kindly shared). Do not wait or hesitate (if you are still considering for whatever reasons).

Sure, it is not 100% foolproof, however, the deterrence will be helpful as well as slow down the burglars if they come, giving more time to react. We have to protect ourselves.

Yes Mallow, we are thankful not to bump into the burglars (we were in the estate and away for 1 hour from the unit).

I have to take care for my family's well being and interest, not everyone is built with same threshold, hence the first and foremost thing to do is to pacify her and reassure her safety.

It is certainly not because I did not expect crime, not because we did not have taken security steps, nor it is because this is not Ang Moh Country (so that we cannot accept).

We have just become part of the statistics that's all. Our break-in is just one day after the Permas Jaya case, with similar operations. Just tough luck to happen so early in our stay here (we are settling in and very happy)

Maybe we will be back again in Johor one day.


Hi abugumgum,

Yes for the meantime, it's wise to reassure your beloved 1st. I'm sure she will also be concerned the fact that you have invested so much into this new home. No one for sure want to meet with such an ordeal.
I really feel that the security in your estate should take some responsibilities. Surely this is not a 1-2 men can do thingy hence they ought to do something about it for the affected folks.
I hope that i could invite you back to JB when things are more settled. Maybe a house visiting trip or makan thingy for a start.. mayb gathering for this forum.. (just some tots of mine) becos i've learnt so much from each and everyone.. it would be nice to have chit chat sessions... pot luck and makan stuff.. not sure can fit all.. or it's just a silly tot of mine... hee hee

[austin_hts]

Nice. Can consider day-trips to Desaru ... or stay overnite at one of the resorts ..
Shld be a nice drive and scenic over the new bridge ..


75km Senai-Desaru Expressway

http://www.e22.com.my/The-Map.html

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=956216


2011/06/09

JOHOR BARU: Travelling between southwest and southeast Johor will be faster and more comfortable with the opening of the 75km Senai-Desaru Expressway today.

The highway, costing RM1.4 billion, is one of the biggest infrastructure projects under the Ninth Malaysian Plan in Johor.

It provides an important transportation link to further boost the logistics and tourism sectors in the southern region.


With the highway, travel time is about an hour between Desaru, in the south-east, and the Second Link or Tanjung Pelepas, in the south-west.

This is a stark contrast compared with the 21/2 hours of travelling along the trunk road.

In conjunction with the opening of the new highway, codenamed SDE, motorists will enjoy a toll-free journey for one month from today.


Toll collection will begin from July 10.

[wuqi256]

Thanks for the update.
Yes, higher price due to appreciation, bigger size and perhaps bec The Hills is nearer to the clubhouse and has direct access (side gate).

Agree with the assessment. It is bigger definitely with pretty good views.

[wuqi256]

We should never revel in the misfortune or tragedy of fellow humans.

I for one definitely am not a sucker for ang mohs. I do not condone such acts.

Agree, we should react to crime in a positive way though rather than give up halfway.

[wuqi256]

Hi there. I posted an earlier message enquiring abt Casa Almyra but you may have missed it. You mentioned your neighbors curse abt that project. Care to elaborate what the issues are? Thanks in advance.

Your thread has been most informative. Your pm is always full. You can pm me too.

Yes, they cursed as they were promised jetty (some for private) as well as jogging track and swimming pool. Nothing came up of it in the end. Poor showing from the developers. One of my neighbours is taking them to court and at first they relented and want to settle out of court but now again reneged on their promises and want to fight in court again.

[wuqi256]

Hi wuqi, is it a chance to discuss about any common issues of the residences or was it just about the clubhouse?

Its mainly about the clubhouse and selection of new LC members for the year.

[Malapore]

I think 4 is the best leh.... Else is 1

Well thanks. My GPS wants me to take option 4 but there's too many turns and signs to look out for. I would take option 5 for an easier ride.

[hangyong]

You did your MACS yday while in the jam ah?

Smart .... never wasted ur time.....

ya... hahaha... came back... car moved forward abit... and wife brought kids and her mum to go make....
all came back... and I am still in the queue, about 500m away from the Komplex... haha.... si beh jia lat

[2bFree]

Took this route from office in Senai to Desaru on Friday evening. Nice drive and roads. Surprised to see so many SG plate at all the Desaru resorts. Had a good seafood dinner at Sungai Rengit after.

However do note that there is toll. It is only toll free from PG to Desaru, not Senai to Desaru.



Nice. Can consider day-trips to Desaru ... or stay overnite at one of the resorts ..
Shld be a nice drive and scenic over the new bridge ..


75km Senai-Desaru Expressway

In conjunction with the opening of the new highway, codenamed SDE, motorists will enjoy a toll-free journey for one month from today.

[karmabear]

Ur a born genius. Your wisdom is far superior than our collective wisdom put together which suggests that we empathise/sympathise.....as has been reflected in the posts by forummers here.

Fuck you, I didn't start sarcastic bullshit with you and am not about to now. You want sit around tugging dick and sing kumbaya, that's your prerogative. What we empathize we sympathize? Stand up like a man and just say you. I disagree with just giving up due to a break in. If that sets you back and you think SG offers a better life style, good luck with that. What cheebyekia anal lovin professor? Better go fuck your daughter before you start with me.

[cathylmg]

I actually bought the aircon units right when i am about to start rental. The units i got were under Midea. Not bad so far, all units covered under 2 year warranty. Same goes for Fujiaire units i got. As long as you have the warranty and service, it should be fine. I use the BH guys for aircon and aircon servicing as well as the electrical shop in Perling Mall, next to the Giant.

Wuqi, so who pays for the servicings? You or you tenents?

[cathylmg]

Went to the LC AGM today for HH, maybe my haircut didn't help. First thing when i met up with folks there going in for the event, their questions:

1. Where is your father?
2. Are you representing him?
3. Are you really a member?

Funny, suffered so many years and then working 2-3 jobs and finally doing ok. The moment you are doing ok, people give you problems. They ignore you or say behind your back, that guy is here because of his family. Its impossible for someone so young to be here.

I just smiled politely and told them my dad was overseas. They seemed to think that everything i have is from my dad. Well in a way it is for if not for him, i wouldn't be here(born).

Back then, at age 25, i had a Benz, told myself my first car will be this. My pay then was slightly higher than my current now so i always told myself, that was my golden years. Folks though, have a tendancy to always assume people are financed by their dads/family when they see people with nicer cars. I never bullied people in my capacity and always tried to be humble.

Only recently did some relatives know of my past drawn, even then it was by accident. All these years, those who laughed at me when they said they earned 3k a month, i never said anything but congratulated them. They even laughed at me when i took my wife for honeymoon as they thought we didn't have money for a wedding dinner. Even teased us saying how come you no money, go do wedding dinner at void deck lah, no money to buy 3 room flat, buy 2 room lah.

Little did they know, after suffering all these years because of family issues and always being looked down upon, the minute you are doing ok, people turn around and accuse you of being here because of your dad?

Worse, there was a relative who had 2, lets say average kids. She would always say, oh your dad is so good to you guys, drove you guys to school every day, give so much pocket money, he must have let you attend university in order for you to get where you are. My sons are useless because their father is so bad, take their money, use their savings to pay debts, beat them with a hammer, etc. She always side with her sons and never made them face the truth, in the end, her constant cover ups led to her sons becoming worse.

Well, i didn't get to attend school after 15, it was all on my own, my right and left hands still have permanent fractures. Parts of my ligament were even permanently torn.

Lets not even talk about the many debts and getting people out of trouble. I found it ironical that the same people who despised me and my family because of him now attributes all our successes to him.

Worse, some folks here would even boast to us they cover regional, etc. I take the lead from one of my uncles who is always humble despite being an ex GM of many big companies, thats why i always just smiled, never felt tempted to ask the irritating guys if their shiny BMW are from their dad. :)

I would be happy to see people succeeding, even those who are younger. There is no minimum age to achieve success, just because you can only get a semi-d/ bungalow at age 50 does not meant others cannot do it earlier than you. People who are better than you and me number in the tens of thousands and many are younger too. Always get the attitude here and at the clubhouse, are you sure you are the member, isn't your dad coming, how much did your dad buy his house for ah? Oh, its yours? Is it a present from him? Wow, you got tenants, you mean your dads tenants is it? So many cars outside your house, how much did your dad pay for his cars?

Sorry for this rant, need to get it out of my system, after this i am fine as i try not to let people like that bother me. :)

Wuqi, don't let other's jeolousy gets on to you. Look on the bright side. You'll be safe taking your dad as a cover up. Then people don't harass you for money. :)

[euphony]

Maybe a house visiting trip or makan thingy for a start.. mayb gathering for this forum.. (just some tots of mine) becos i've learnt so much from each and everyone.. it would be nice to have chit chat sessions... pot luck and makan stuff.. not sure can fit all.. or it's just a silly tot of mine... hee hee

i'm keen on the idea too. =) the rest of the folks who contribute here - would you also want that? Turn it to reality. It'll be nice and i think extremely enriching if not educational to trade 'war stories' haha.

[Analytical Professor]

U r a born genius.

now i know how u were born

oops school holidays r on

juz realized tht


Fuck you, I didn't start sarcastic bullshit with you and am not about to now. You want sit around tugging dick and sing kumbaya, that's your prerogative. What we empathize we sympathize? Stand up like a man and just say you. I disagree with just giving up due to a break in. If that sets you back and you think SG offers a better life style, good luck with that. What cheebyekia anal lovin professor? Better go fuck your daughter before you start with me.

[toyohon]

I only got 243.5 in Bukit Indah

244.50 at People's Park Centre, Chinatown ground floor Chinese operated money-changer/remittance service across OCBC.

[cathylmg]

sigh have to gripe here. i wonder what is the MY immigrations thinking, reflecting on the chaos of this week past. the biometric thing is a total failure (who does 2 INDEX fingers anyway?!!). instead of working towards closer ties and traffic communication MY is alienating the link every opportunity they get. Its like fruits being served on a platter and they prefer to flop it over and pick up the scraps on the floor.

Look at China/HK, EU, USA/Canada...

And I wonder when will Johor as a state be ready to pull up its socks and up the ante. It knows it has the Iskandar project, its a crucial one opportunity to show the rest of MY, indeed SG and the world what Johor can be. And it really is going to rely on SG being one of the biggest supporter both in monetary as well as the masses in technical expertise as well as consumption. Yet it makes no real effort to enhance the traffic communication infighting over the smallest detail like building a crooked or straight bridge. Just build the damn thing already!

Which is what I suspect led some of us here to draw the explanatory race card which in turn drew ire from forumers like batok seri (if i remember correctly). If I may play the same card again, I say bring in the Chinese and their capitalist communism! They are just as corrupted in the governance as we've seen in the past but when they put their mind into it, they at least brought us the 2008 summer Olympics...

Its legalised extortion.(MACs) Get it? They want money they don't want to say, so they come up with the white card, but you all don't want wanna pay up so they make you stuck there for hours. See whether you change your mind about applying for MAC or not... :P

[euphony]

244.50 at People's Park Centre, Chinatown ground floor Chinese operated money-changer/remittance service across OCBC.

what is the long term appreciation max?? seems like getting higher and higher by the week. i wonder will the sgd to rm reach 1=3? like it was gbp to sgd.

[toyohon]

what is the long term appreciation max?? seems like getting higher and higher by the week. i wonder will the sgd to rm reach 1=3? like it was gbp to sgd.

Beats me, but it should be a thought for those who earn SGD and intend to convert to RM and pay cash instead of spreading the repayment out. If the Ringgit appreciates, property value go up but bad for those who took housing loans.. hmmm

[cathylmg]

wah? For me if its 7am plus, I will forget about coming in to JB already. Usually do it before 530am if possible. Kids? Just slap them and get them to drink some coffee and wash up.. if no use, simply carry them and throw them into the car to sleep. thats the best!......

:eek::eek::eek: :*:

[cathylmg]

yeah best to be firm with kids.... I agree to that.... No pampering and giving carrots all the time....

Just tell them that they have to get up and get into the car or later get up and get out of the car.... irrespective of how sleepy they are.... No wailing or throwing tantrums....

Babies are excused....

Just make sure the kids sleep early. Clocking in at least 8 hrs of sleep will safe you all the wailings...

[wuqi256]

Good idea skippy but i probably won't attend, let me know where though. A bottle or 2 of wine may suddenly arrive.

Was quite touched the other day, someone said to a neighbour (only 1 who knows who i am) how a certain forum on sammyboy helped him. Another said he bought at 900k (large land, end lot) and now sold to 1.38m. Was looking for wuqi but i told me neighbour its ok as i just want to help.

[wuqi256]

Bros Bear and AP, please cool it Sirs. Everyone has their own opinion but i do agree with Bear that one shouldn't give up because of one incident. Then again, sometimes the wife overrides everything else so i can understand. To each his own.

[wuqi256]

i'm keen on the idea too. =) the rest of the folks who contribute here - would you also want that? Turn it to reality. It'll be nice and i think extremely enriching if not educational to trade 'war stories' haha.

Thats a good idea actually but i would humbly suggest that everyone who attends it must promise not to share what their online identity is for privacy sake.
I won't be attending but i would definitely wish you guys well.

[wuqi256]

You did your MACS yday while in the jam ah?

Smart .... never wasted ur time.....

Seems bro Hangyong is really smart. Kudos to him. Not everyone of us has that kind of flexibility/creativity. Rare man.

[wuqi256]

Wuqi, so who pays for the servicings? You or you tenents?

First 2 years of the lease, me. After that its them. New tenants will have to pay for the servicing but i will keep the pricing of the leases down some, else i will charge more but cover the servicing. As a owner of more than 40 plus aircon units, including the shop is almost 60 units. Its not that expensive if i buy a yearly service contract after the 2 year service period ends and split it between the units.

[abugumgum]

Bros Bear and AP, please cool it Sirs. Everyone has their own opinion but i do agree with Bear that one shouldn't give up because of one incident. Then again, sometimes the wife overrides everything else so i can understand. To each his own.

Yes, let's rest this here.

[wuqi256]

Thank you wuqi, I will do so. I have asked around the second hand car dealers, the price offered is a big loss for me, especially it is still so new, just 1 month +. I really appreciate your kind offer to help.

Bro abugumgum, no problem. If it helps, i can help you find a place with absolutely no strings attached. I am good for it.

In fact, you should give it one more go at different places. If you have a place to park your car, then you won't be needing to sell your car so urgently. Whether you sell now or 3-4 months later, you will likely get back the same amount of money.

Give it another chance man, it is your life though, whichever you do, i respect your decision.

I nearly got mugged on the very first day i arrived in US, being so new to the place, thinking back my SLR camera nearly cost me my life.
In the end i did not give up,

Stats tends to always side with people who persists - Original quote. :)

[wuqi256]

Hi Skippy,

You really deserve a good life, i never knew there were so many good people in the world until i got into this thread. Sure, there are always funny characters but majority, even the detractors i will try to always assume they mean well.

I just pass the remainder of my days helping out people as much as i can. When my little dim candle is extinguished, i am sure many bright candles will still be there, lighting up others lives.

[wuqi256]

Agree with you wuqi.

Definitely many selfless souls in Singapore who really wanna see a gracious, loving, compassionate and yet at the same time progressive Singapore but then...........the.....

Thanks prof, there are (or if things continue in SG as they do, then it would be were)actually many patriotic 袁崇焕 in Singapore. Just that they are all betrayed by their government. Who wants to leave the country of their birth if they can help it?

一生事業總成空，半世功名在夢中。死後不愁無將勇，忠魂依舊保遼東！- 袁崇焕

[wuqi256]

Agree bro. I meant in the context of a caddie. Cause you know.... Caddies have a reputation....

Actually should be ok? Caddies have a bad reputation, for mugging or gossiping? I really have no idea, i don't play golf much, come to think of it, not been using my facilities for a long time. Always busy whenever i come in.

[karmabear]

U r a born genius.

now i know how u were born

oops school holidays r on

juz realized tht

Yep school holidays now but take it easy on your little girl. I am no genius unlike you, professor. I am a simple bear that calls a spade a spade. If you are going to be put off by a break-in, best that one remains in Singapore. Uprooting a family and moving to JB involves a tremendous amount of research, investment in both time, money and emotion. Just give up like that? WTF? I don't empathize. And I don't believe in group think just to be nice. You welcome to criticize but this is my point of view. Happy to leave it as it is.

[Skippy]

Good idea skippy but i probably won't attend, let me know where though. A bottle or 2 of wine may suddenly arrive.

Was quite touched the other day, someone said to a neighbour (only 1 who knows who i am) how a certain forum on sammyboy helped him. Another said he bought at 900k (large land, end lot) and now sold to 1.38m. Was looking for wuqi but i told me neighbour its ok as i just want to help.

Bro Wuqi... i can sense your major concern and to have this get 2 gather session would be an awesome turnout as long folks here are supportive...Bro Euphony way to go. i'm sure many would agree with me that you u are one of the big contributing factor and if it really actualise... it's a gona be a great session for one and all, I oso think that folks here would wan to extend their many thanks to you too. Seems like it'll be good to keep it simple so that you wont be chase by fans heehee... sound like celeb kena chase by his fan club.. just kidding...
Maybe no names reveal just maybe have pot luck session... go by the dishes brought by the family so that everyone knows what on the menu and can look forward to the eat and chit chat session. I guess it's the kampung spirit that all here would greatly appreciate. I'm very glad to help out if this really can happen but first to find a good location that can accomodate so many of us with our family too... hee hee it would be such a happening event for this forum... yippie

[wuqi256]

Hi bro AP, maids are human beings too, you guys treat your maids well as well. We should, if just because one is higher in status or earns more money, then people of lesser status cannot eat, sit with them. Then many people would be very lonely.

Money or status does not make one high or low, the only things that matters is ones character.

[karmabear]

The straits times did an article today on the NS kid who has only six fingers left after the vicious attack in Kallang. Burger King robbed by Pinoy FTs...Ah Kong murdered in Ang Mo Kio Park... This is just recent news. I don't think crime in Singapore is much less. Just that we singaporeans choose to believe our own bullshit. Singapore safe last time yes... But not now.

[Analytical Professor]

Not the Indians, not the filipinos, not the indonesians, not the Thais.

Definitely not the Singaporeans!

Whole heartedly agree with you on that...



Who wants to leave the country of their birth if they can help it?

一生事業總成空，半世功名在夢中。死後不愁無將勇，忠魂依舊保遼東！- 袁崇焕

[wuqi256]

Hey Skippy, thanks for your kind words. I am a simple man who just wants to help. What i have done is not important at all, i am just helping and doing my NS in a way, returning to society. I expect no thanks, people living happily there is more than thanks enough for me. :)

Probably we should either got to the HH or EL clubhouse and get a small room with food and drinks.

[cathylmg]

Talking about Prata one of my friends asked me to Da Bao cheese prata from balestier food centre. He asked for 2. guess the price. S$6 for 2.

I was shocked.

Surprisingly the prata is made by a guy from China. Incidentally he makes the teh tarik and kopi tarik there as well....

No bro at Setia Tropika no great place to eat.

Ofcourse we have KFC, Pizza Hut and Starbucks and soon Macdonalds, Wendys and Kenny Roasters....

But the shop houses.... nothing fantastic from my perspective....

I am not sure if anyone else has a different opinion.

Cathy, what do you have to say?

BTW i tried the Magic Mushroom pub. My wife felt it was a bit sleazy for comfort. So stopped going there. Too dark inside.... So you know what happens or what is supposed to happen....

Don't ask me bro, I only know the vegetarian stall. LOL! Yesterday one of my neighbour introduced one stall called Fai Zhai (in chinese), they delivery to your house for rm1 extra. Heard the curry fish head is nice. But I will never try it. :)

[Analytical Professor]

Agreed. I dun even allow my family members to be alone around the foreign workers area/lifts/desolate roads cause these things are happening in Spore right now.

The Downtown murder and slashing case and so many others are case in point...


The straits times did an article today on the NS kid who has only six fingers left after the vicious attack in Kallang. Burger King robbed by Pinoy FTs...Ah Kong murdered in Ang Mo Kio Park... This is just recent news. I don't think crime in Singapore is much less. Just that we singaporeans choose to believe our own bullshit. Singapore safe last time yes... But not now.

[wuqi256]

The straits times did an article today on the NS kid who has only six fingers left after the vicious attack in Kallang. Burger King robbed by Pinoy FTs...Ah Kong murdered in Ang Mo Kio Park... This is just recent news. I don't think crime in Singapore is much less. Just that we singaporeans choose to believe our own bullshit. Singapore safe last time yes... But not now.

I can't agree more on that. I used to feel so safe 10 years back. Now, US, JB, SG makes no difference for me. Depending on where one is walking, even in SG, not all parts are safe.

[cathylmg]

Causeway gets jam relief as new system breaks down

Most wait just 1 hour or less as biometric system fails for most of the day
By Fiona Low

At 6.45pm yesterday, the Causeway was almost empty in both directions. When The Straits Times drove through, it took just half an hour to go in and out of JB.

TRAVELLERS crossing the Causeway were yesterday spared the gruelling jams that have plagued the checkpoints for the last two weeks - after the new biometric system that has been causing the chaos broke down.

The system - in which every person has to spend time having his or her fingerprints scanned - was out for a large part of the day, said Malaysian checkpoint officers.

They said it was being fixed, and would be up and running again by today.

Travellers who spoke to The Straits Times said they took between half an hour and an hour to clear Malaysian immigration and customs yesterday evening.

This was a far cry from the seven-hour wait reported on Saturday.

When The Straits Times drove through the Causeway at about 5.30pm yesterday, traffic was smooth and it took about half an hour to go in and out of the neighbouring state.

I wish for more frequent breakdowns.... :)

[karmabear]

Agreed. I dun even allow my family members to be alone around the foreign workers area/lifts/desolate roads cause these things are happening in Spore right now.

The Downtown murder and slashing case and so many others are case in point...

With this, let me publicly apologize to you. Hope you realise that I am just messing around with my karmabear persona. All my posts on Sammy is very irrelevant but have some truisms. I am concerned for the fellow moving back to SG because I felt that he gave up too fast and more importantly, it is not a guarantee that there will be no crime. But is guaranteed is cost of living is higher. To me, does not make sense. Of course, he is welcome to his decision and I empathize about the wife. This sounds a bit MCP but generally, men worry about cost of living, future earnings, job security etc. Ok peace out. I am going to whack PAP dogs in the politics section. Take care all.

[wuqi256]

Thank you so much bro Bear, i know you meant well. Thanks for your contribution, you are welcome here, i am sure bro AP, always being the gent that he is understands where you are coming from.

[Analytical Professor]

Thanks dude.


With this, let me publicly apologize to you. Hope you realise that I am just messing around with my karmabear persona. All my posts on Sammy is very irrelevant but have some truisms. I am concerned for the fellow moving back to SG because I felt that he gave up too fast and more importantly, it is not a guarantee that there will be no crime. But is guaranteed is cost of living is higher. To me, does not make sense. Of course, he is welcome to his decision and I empathize about the wife. This sounds a bit MCP but generally, men worry about cost of living, future earnings, job security etc. Ok peace out. I am going to whack PAP dogs in the politics section. Take care all.

[cathylmg]

Exchanged S$100 at one of the many exchange near the custom. Rate was 2.44 although the display was 2.40

[ginfreely]

the same pinoy look up to Ang Moh you know....

Even broke ang moh they still consider superior. As long as ang moh can already.

People idolize ang moh mah, actually there are all kinds of ang moh...ever met very uncivilized ang moh too...many years ago on a long flight and i got an aisle seat but one ang moh took my seat and refused to move despite my requests and some more so fierce. I asked the stewardess who also couldn't get him to move and she got the steward to finally get him to move.....another time at the cinema also same thing, got to ask the cinema staff to get two ang moh off the seats....incredible huh

[ginfreely]

I agree with Ginfreelys signature and yes Wuqi i agree with you too.

I am surprised why no police report has been made yet? Why no action taken yet?

Low pay or whatever ($400 a month is what they earn + annual increment of maybe $50 max.... So yes its low pay... But they get free food + accom

And moreover they agreed to work for that pay. No one placed a gun to their head and asked them to come and work here.

Stern action must be taken.

Yeah lor, don't know why the ministers paid so highly cannot understand how to tackle simple problem like this.

[ginfreely]

The day we can see reports like these is the day they are really serious about accountability, else, everything is hogwash and a smokescreen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOQm6Ls6Ks

Singapore, i still want to believe in you, not just because of what the people have sacrificed in the past for you but for the sake of the many people who still believe in you, now and in the future.

It is our forefathers and not PAP who have sacrificed and made this place successful. It does not take a genius to know that massive import of low quality foreigners at such a short time will wreak havoc to the society. I hope they really do something about it.

[cathylmg]

Yeah lor, don't know why the ministers paid so highly cannot understand how to tackle simple problem like this.

I can't understand the pension part. All the civil servants pensions have been replaced by the cpf scheme except for the ministers. Why do we need to pay them so much and continue to pay them after they retired? Like this our government overheads will get too heavy for our tax systems to cope. No wonder our gst and the coes needs to increase and increase....

[abugumgum]

Bro abugumgum, no problem. If it helps, i can help you find a place with absolutely no strings attached. I am good for it.

In fact, you should give it one more go at different places. If you have a place to park your car, then you won't be needing to sell your car so urgently. Whether you sell now or 3-4 months later, you will likely get back the same amount of money.

Give it another chance man, it is your life though, whichever you do, i respect your decision.

I nearly got mugged on the very first day i arrived in US, being so new to the place, thinking back my SLR camera nearly cost me my life.
In the end i did not give up,

Stats tends to always side with people who persists - Original quote. :)

Indeed, without COE here, there is not much difference in the resale value within a few months.

I have asked a few more friends to help ask around for potential buyers. If all these don't pan out, then I will trouble you for the interim, thank you once again for your kindness.

[ginfreely]

Hi there. I posted an earlier message enquiring abt Casa Almyra but you may have missed it. You mentioned your neighbors curse abt that project. Care to elaborate what the issues are? Thanks in advance.

Your thread has been most informative. Your pm is always full. You can pm me too.

Hi I have viewed this place too, there is a waste treatment pond right next to the estate. It is pretty big and open air type.

[aangsc]

Probably we should either got to the HH or EL clubhouse and get a small room with food and drinks.

Clubhouse would be good for gathering , the host can remain anonymous and leave some privacy behind. Sound like a mystery party ; how to guess which of the sammyboy forumer turn up ? But the minority race like eurasian will be a dead give-away, same for the women, there are just a handful here.

[ginfreely]

Dear all,

It is not my aim to affect or discourage people from living in johor. You can read it just as "another" story in the newspaper.

However, do step up security measures immediately ( as Mallow has kindly shared). Do not wait or hesitate (if you are still considering for whatever reasons).

Sure, it is not 100% foolproof, however, the deterrence will be helpful as well as slow down the burglars if they come, giving more time to react. We have to protect ourselves.

Yes Mallow, we are thankful not to bump into the burglars (we were in the estate and away for 1 hour from the unit).

I have to take care for my family's well being and interest, not everyone is built with same threshold, hence the first and foremost thing to do is to pacify her and reassure her safety.

It is certainly not because I did not expect crime, not because we did not have taken security steps, nor it is because this is not Ang Moh Country (so that we cannot accept).

We have just become part of the statistics that's all. Our break-in is just one day after the Permas Jaya case, with similar operations. Just tough luck to happen so early in our stay here (we are settling in and very happy)

Maybe we will be back again in Johor one day.

Hi I agree with your wife to move back first for the time being. The last thing people want to hear when bad thing happened is the thing happened because the victim didn't take enough precautions.

[aangsc]

[QUOTE=cathylmg;753324]I can't understand the pension part. All the civil servants pensions have been replaced by the cpf scheme except for the ministers.

That's a clear double standard. It should be scrapped altogether. With such high pay as minister/MP, why do they need pension ? But it is unlikely for any MP to bring up , not even opposition MP because they also a get pension if meet requirement.

[congo9]

Best brand of GPS for Malaysia travelling ? any one ?

[ginfreely]

I can't understand the pension part. All the civil servants pensions have been replaced by the cpf scheme except for the ministers. Why do we need to pay them so much and continue to pay them after they retired? Like this our government overheads will get too heavy for our tax systems to cope. No wonder our gst and the coes needs to increase and increase....

Yeah lor they grant themselves exception, not just that, their pension start at age 55 some more ...

[cathylmg]

Yeah lor they grant themselves exception, not just that, their pension start at age 55 some more ...

Which is why ministers who don't get elected can just quit totally. After a certain number of years in service, even if not elected, they will be paid anyway.

[cathylmg]

Yeah lor they grant themselves exception, not just that, their pension start at age 55 some more ...

Can you imagine how many ex-ministers we need to keep paying? ;)

[aangsc]

Took this route from office in Senai to Desaru on Friday evening. Nice drive and roads. Surprised to see so many SG plate at all the Desaru resorts. Had a good seafood dinner at Sungai Rengit after.

However do note that there is toll. It is only toll free from PG to Desaru, not Senai to Desaru.

Tried the expressway yesterday afternoon but sadly was force to u-turn back as a jam built up about 40 km from desaru. Some accident along the way on single lane some more , I saw ambulance speeding there later.
Now with this road, Desaru will be a popular destination for short breakaway.

[Malapore]

Best brand of GPS for Malaysia travelling ? any one ?

I'm using my ipad with Sygic GPS software installed. So far so good.

[jasonjst]

i'm keen on the idea too. =) the rest of the folks who contribute here - would you also want that? Turn it to reality. It'll be nice and i think extremely enriching if not educational to trade 'war stories' haha.

Let shoot the arrow to our Lao Tao , Wuqi hope he dont mind haha ...

[horizonhills]

anyone knows how i can get to Desaru using the new senai-desaru highway from 2nd link?

[LeMans2011]

I can imagine the JB state government arguing with the Federal government everyday. Its all about face saving, i'm pretty sure they will scrap this biometric thumb printing before the year ends. Of course, it helps if media from both sides continue to publicise this.

An example is the 20l petrol rule which they eventually replaced with the far more logical "Malaysians only RON97" rule. In a way you can say they go by "trial and error"... but the good point is they are willing to change a system that does not work. In Singapore they do a very comprehensive paper to justify anything they want to implement... but once implemented i cannot recall they ever reversed any policies even if it is drastically wrong (such as the 2-child policy).

[aangsc]

anyone knows how i can get to Desaru using the new senai-desaru highway from 2nd link?

it is really very easy from 2nd link. Just follow the highway and look out for Senai airport exit that also has DESARU on it. Once you exit , there is very clear signage along with distance. However, if you are using GPS, after the initial distant, you will not find any road on GPS as it has not been updated on the map yet. I think it is not far after ulu tiram where the road vanish but not problem , just a straight road .

[2bFree]

This diagram may help for those wishing to use the new E22 highway:

http://www.e22.com.my/images/stories/map/SDE-map_v4_full.gif

[2bFree]

Yes, must be careful there as I also saw an accident while on the way back near the bridge. The roads are not really that smooth and I believe the lanes will converge to one closer to Desaru.

But all-in-all, was a nice pleasant drive especially in a convertible :)



Tried the expressway yesterday afternoon but sadly was force to u-turn back as a jam built up about 40 km from desaru. Some accident along the way on single lane some more , I saw ambulance speeding there later.
Now with this road, Desaru will be a popular destination for short breakaway.

[LeMans2011]

btw... saw my dad reading chinese newspaper earlier... it seems with immediate effect all foreigners entering MY will only have to do finger printing once, they stick a barcoded sticker on your passport... the next time you come in they just need to scan the barcode... anyone experienced this already?

[ArtIsEverywhere]

The Plight of Orang Laut near danga bay development. Orang Laut is the Abroginal people of johor. VIsited the place is near perling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpOFuP43MMQ&feature=player_embedded

[jasonjst]

btw... saw my dad reading chinese newspaper earlier... it seems with immediate effect all foreigners entering MY will only have to do finger printing once, they stick a barcoded sticker on your passport... the next time you come in they just need to scan the barcode... anyone experienced this already?

Dosnt work lah, the bar code gone once you change a new PP , or very time consuming to locate it as PP got so many pages. Finger prrint data base should be index using our IC or PP no . Scaner should be able to read our IC or PP no without having to key it in manually.

[Analytical Professor]

Oh my.... this is really traumatic

They were ordered to strip by Malaysian customs
AsiaOne
Mon, Jun 13, 2011


TWO Singaporean women who drove into Johor Baru were detained by Malaysian customs, stripped, and made to squat and stand while pulling their ears.

They were detained for 24 hours for "illegal entry" as their passports were not stamped at the Malaysian customs, reported Shin Min Daily News.

The incident occurred last Thursday (June 9) when property agent Ms Lim, 29, went to Changi Airport to pick up a friend, insurance agent Ms Zhan, 39, who was returning from a holiday in Hong Kong.

Click on thumbnail to view (Photos: Lianhe Wanbao, Shin Min Daily News)


They then decided to drive to Johor Baru for supper at around 1.30am.

Ms Lim told Shin Min Daily News that she drove into Lane 2 and realised that there was no customs officer on duty. She attempted to use the intercom service to ask if there was anyone, but according to her, it was too noisy and she was not able to make out if anyone had replied her.

After five minutes, she decided to use the Touch n Go system to enter into Malaysia. The Touch n Go system is a smart card used at Malaysian highway tolls and can be used to enter the country if travelling from Singapore.

The two noticed that there was no one attending to the fingerprinting scanning system and therefore, were not able to get their passports stamped and checked before entering Johor Baru.

"I immediately made a U-turn towards the Malaysian checkpoint to find an officer to stamp our passports and that was when we were accused of illegal entry.

"We were interrogated by customs officers around 3am and were detained for up to 15 hours.

"We were handcuffed and around 6pm the next day, we were taken to a detention centre in Pontian," said Ms Zhan.

Upon arriving at the detention centre, the two told Shin Min Daily News that they were ordered by a Malay correction officer to take off their clothes and said that this was "normal procedure".

Ms Zhan also said that Ms Lim was given a smelly and old T-shirt to wear while the other detainees wore their own clothes.

She told the Chinese evening daily that the two of them were made to squat and stand while pulling their ears.

They were allowed to wear their clothes only after they had finished ten squats.

Ms Zhan said that they were locked up in a cell that was about two-thirds the size of a football field. There were about 50 other detainees in the same cell and were mainly from Indonesia and the Philippines; the two women were the only ones from Singapore.

When Ms Zhan asked for a new sanitary pad from one of the detention officers, some of the detainees told her that she will have to use soap and water to wash her soiled pad before disposing it, or else she will be reprimanded by the officers.

She said the toilet was filthy and the stench filled the entire cell, and as the toilet did not have a door, a cloth was used instead, but only covered up to her eyes.

They were also told by their cellmates that they would be punished if they did not finish their food and will be made to stand for an hour if they spoke too loudly.

"There was no mattress or pillow in the cell, so we slept on the floor with bugs and cockroaches," said Ms Zhan.

The two were released the following Saturday at 6am with warning letters. They were not charged or penalised.

While they were getting their passports stamped on their way back to Singapore, they were told that they will not be able to enter Malaysia easily after this incident.

It was the first time the two had driven to Malaysia. They told Shin Min Daily News that although they were at fault, they did not understand why they were treated like prisoners.

They also said that they intend to seek a legal help and demand for compensation for their traumatic experience in Malaysia

[ArtIsEverywhere]

Despite the popular discussion about properties in johor please take time and stop to think of these folks who sacrifice their land for the development of johor.

The Plight of Orang Laut....near danga bay development. Orang Laut is the Abroginal people of johor. Visited the place myself it's near perling. Very sad to see a big constrast where one one side is the poor orang laut and the other side is the rich bangalows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpOFuP43MMQ&feature=player_embedded

[LeMans2011]

Dosnt work lah, the bar code gone once you change a new PP , or very time consuming to locate it as PP got so many pages. Finger prrint data base should be index using our IC or PP no . Scaner should be able to read our IC or PP no without having to key it in manually.

We are talking about what is the best they can do now... short of scrapping the entire system. I think the procedure should be able to minimise the queue to less than an hour after a few months, given that many visitors would be repeat visitors and not first timers. I am not an expert in barcoding but i believe it needs to follow a prescribed system of numbers so that every number is unique.

[LeMans2011]

AP,
As much as i dislike the MY immigration officers, i always feel a little skeptical when i read news like this. Furthermore it is really lacking in common sense to get into a country without getting your passport stamped. But yes, it gets risky when you are at their mercy. I would never let my partner cross the border on her own.

[ginfreely]

Thanks prof, there are (or if things continue in SG as they do, then it would be were)actually many patriotic 袁崇焕 in Singapore. Just that they are all betrayed by their government. Who wants to leave the country of their birth if they can help it?

一生事業總成空，半世功名在夢中。死後不愁無將勇，忠魂依舊保遼東！- 袁崇焕

Yeah thanks to PAP that so many true blue Singaporeans are thinking of leaving. Actually the people who should leave should be the government who messed up the country. I wish I had a hammer to wake up the 60 per cent...

[ginfreely]

The straits times did an article today on the NS kid who has only six fingers left after the vicious attack in Kallang. Burger King robbed by Pinoy FTs...Ah Kong murdered in Ang Mo Kio Park... This is just recent news. I don't think crime in Singapore is much less. Just that we singaporeans choose to believe our own bullshit. Singapore safe last time yes... But not now.

Yes don't feel so safe nowadays. Can recall few more recent cases, got taxi driver murdered by PRC, gal raped by PRC while walking home from bus stop...these people have zero conscience and can kill for few dollars....

[ginfreely]

Oh my.... this is really traumatic

They were ordered to strip by Malaysian customs
AsiaOne
Mon, Jun 13, 2011


TWO Singaporean women who drove into Johor Baru were detained by Malaysian customs, stripped, and made to squat and stand while pulling their ears.

They were detained for 24 hours for "illegal entry" as their passports were not stamped at the Malaysian customs, reported Shin Min Daily News.

The incident occurred last Thursday (June 9) when property agent Ms Lim, 29, went to Changi Airport to pick up a friend, insurance agent Ms Zhan, 39, who was returning from a holiday in Hong Kong.

Click on thumbnail to view (Photos: Lianhe Wanbao, Shin Min Daily News)


They then decided to drive to Johor Baru for supper at around 1.30am.

Ms Lim told Shin Min Daily News that she drove into Lane 2 and realised that there was no customs officer on duty. She attempted to use the intercom service to ask if there was anyone, but according to her, it was too noisy and she was not able to make out if anyone had replied her.

After five minutes, she decided to use the Touch n Go system to enter into Malaysia. The Touch n Go system is a smart card used at Malaysian highway tolls and can be used to enter the country if travelling from Singapore.

The two noticed that there was no one attending to the fingerprinting scanning system and therefore, were not able to get their passports stamped and checked before entering Johor Baru.

"I immediately made a U-turn towards the Malaysian checkpoint to find an officer to stamp our passports and that was when we were accused of illegal entry.

"We were interrogated by customs officers around 3am and were detained for up to 15 hours.

"We were handcuffed and around 6pm the next day, we were taken to a detention centre in Pontian," said Ms Zhan.

Upon arriving at the detention centre, the two told Shin Min Daily News that they were ordered by a Malay correction officer to take off their clothes and said that this was "normal procedure".

Ms Zhan also said that Ms Lim was given a smelly and old T-shirt to wear while the other detainees wore their own clothes.

She told the Chinese evening daily that the two of them were made to squat and stand while pulling their ears.

They were allowed to wear their clothes only after they had finished ten squats.

Ms Zhan said that they were locked up in a cell that was about two-thirds the size of a football field. There were about 50 other detainees in the same cell and were mainly from Indonesia and the Philippines; the two women were the only ones from Singapore.

When Ms Zhan asked for a new sanitary pad from one of the detention officers, some of the detainees told her that she will have to use soap and water to wash her soiled pad before disposing it, or else she will be reprimanded by the officers.

She said the toilet was filthy and the stench filled the entire cell, and as the toilet did not have a door, a cloth was used instead, but only covered up to her eyes.

They were also told by their cellmates that they would be punished if they did not finish their food and will be made to stand for an hour if they spoke too loudly.

"There was no mattress or pillow in the cell, so we slept on the floor with bugs and cockroaches," said Ms Zhan.

The two were released the following Saturday at 6am with warning letters. They were not charged or penalised.

While they were getting their passports stamped on their way back to Singapore, they were told that they will not be able to enter Malaysia easily after this incident.

It was the first time the two had driven to Malaysia. They told Shin Min Daily News that although they were at fault, they did not understand why they were treated like prisoners.

They also said that they intend to seek a legal help and demand for compensation for their traumatic experience in Malaysia

Yeah will be terrible if end up in the police station there, anything can happen...

[ginfreely]

Hi bro AP, maids are human beings too, you guys treat your maids well as well. We should, if just because one is higher in status or earns more money, then people of lesser status cannot eat, sit with them. Then many people would be very lonely.

Money or status does not make one high or low, the only things that matters is ones character.

Ever heard someone treated maid well but maid still stole her stuff...

[ginfreely]

Best brand of GPS for Malaysia travelling ? any one ?

Can use Papago download on iPhone, cost less than thirty dollars...

[wuqi256]

Hi Ginfreely, no guarantee in this world. Just because one maid acted badly, we cannot tar everyone with the same brush. So because they may still steal even if we treat them well, we should treat them badly? Just treat them as you will a fellow human being and give respect where its due.

Bros, the story about the girls squatting, etc is really weird. This is as how many people (women) would go for supper in JB in that time of the night? Also, i had a couple of times in the past where either friends, family and once even my wife did not receive a stamp on the password and in the end, we got it resolved.

All 4 times without the use of money. One time, when they started the MACS thing, my mums passport had problems with her MACS sticker and they could not find when she entered. We wasted half an hour but were soon sent on our way.

This case is very extreme but in a way, although i feel sorry for her, she really breached the rules not once but multiple. She could have just waited, reversed out or got out of the car and notify another booth/sought help.

[ginfreely]

Can you imagine how many ex-ministers we need to keep paying? ;)

I used to don't mind we need to pay them high salary but now I think they are not worth even much lower salary, let alone sky high salary. They only got bad ideas (to the people) like casino, mass import people to drive up GDP...nothing that is worth the salary paid...

[ginfreely]

[QUOTE=wuqi256;753514]Hi Ginfreely, no guarantee in this world. Just because one maid acted badly, we cannot tar everyone with the same brush. So because they may still steal even if we treat them well, we should treat them badly? Just treat them as you will a fellow human being and give respect where its due.
/QUOTE]

No lah, of course treat people as how we would like to be treated...true, may not be representative, I heard of two cases only...

[Skippy]

Clubhouse would be good for gathering , the host can remain anonymous and leave some privacy behind. Sound like a mystery party ; how to guess which of the sammyboy forumer turn up ? But the minority race like eurasian will be a dead give-away, same for the women, there are just a handful here.

Yeap got to agree with that cos we need to cater sufficient parking space too... not forgetting tat we may ve elderly and very young kids along. I'll need to go check out the procedure and cost of booking such an area for this event. Not too sure the space in EL though... HH i still can ask ard frm the mgt. But of course the experts and advisors are here... hee hee mayb you folks can share abt this.

I'll have to do up a register so that it's a logbook to tabulate the no of pax turning up and a foodlist so that there wont be too many duplicate of food items. Or mayb we can limit max up to 3-5 sets of the similar food type. hmmm for the posting need some IT help not too sure how to post it in here. But guess i need to get a date that can fit the majority folks ... all are warmly welcome... so pls support! Keke..

[tansi]

btw... saw my dad reading chinese newspaper earlier... it seems with immediate effect all foreigners entering MY will only have to do finger printing once, they stick a barcoded sticker on your passport... the next time you come in they just need to scan the barcode... anyone experienced this already?

hv to see it to believe it. happened 2 weeks ago on a weekday with no jam at all at 2d link, mine has MACS and a sticker of thumbprint so no problem. my wife got no MACS and had to get out of the car to thunbprint. got a sticker glued to her passport. returned 2 days later thru 2d link, wife had to get out of car to verify thumbprint. THEN the sticker in her passport was REMOVED by the officier. I suppose she has to repeat the whole process next trip.
I had also read in malaysian chinese newspaper that those above 60 years old would be exempted as they were not high risk illegal visitor/immigrant. reading only adds to confusion.

[mrbean]

Hi I have viewed this place too, there is a waste treatment pond right next to the estate. It is pretty big and open air type.

Yes I noticed the waste treatment but it seems ok. Like a super large sump of some sort. Its nearer to the Perling houses and no odor problem. I guess will need to check out few more times if I am really keen.

Bro Wuqi reported that the developer shortchanged the facilities that were originally supposed to be built, but taken at what it is now, seems reasonably ok.

HH pricing has gone thru the roof comparatively speaking. So now looking at Nusa Duta & Mont Callista too. HH seems overpriced by a significant amount in my opinion.

[wuqi256]

Yes I noticed the waste treatment but it seems ok. Like a super large sump of some sort. Its nearer to the Perling houses and no odor problem. I guess will need to check out few more times if I am really keen.

Bro Wuqi reported that the developer shortchanged the facilities that were originally supposed to be built, but taken at what it is now, seems reasonably ok.

HH pricing has gone thru the roof comparatively speaking. So now looking at Nusa Duta & Mont Callista too. HH seems overpriced by a significant amount in my opinion.

The new ones, its actually because of the facilities and proximity to amenities as well as the nearby areas. Boss of Nusa Duta was actually asked to raise prices many times by his staff from what i understand. He is a good man, basically from what was related, he thinks he has earned enough and wants to keep it affordable for those dreaming of a new home. Some of my neighbours got 2 and then went back for more. I just got one more just in case my close relatives decided to come out here.

There were also issues with floor tiling, etc. My neighbour had to go through a lot to get things done. Security wise is ok, they have built a tower near the waters edge. Was supposed to get one there initially but got HH instead. If you think overpriced, my friends and neighbours here would point to Setia ones in Bukit Indah as just for some clusters here, they are marketing at close to 900k. This is close or matching what HH is marketing their clusters for, at this price, i would still rather go for HH.