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fairies
26-04-2011, 03:36 AM
Someone told me that at Tun Aminah and other government hospitals in Malaysia locals pay only Rm 1 while foreigners pay Rm 15.

I really dunno how much this info is true.

In addition i heard quite a few singaporeans take treatment at Tun Aminah instead of TTSH and other spore hospitals (cost savings and better service and communication with doctors)

Again i dunno how far this info is true.

I guess the service standard at Sultanah Aminah Hospital must have improved over the years.

My mother however refuses to be sent there coz of some unpleasant experiences she had had at the hospital few years ago.

Analytical Professor
26-04-2011, 03:40 AM
The guy i met swore by it. He said you could go to doctors anywhere else and you would get the same medicines at much higher prices and therefore Tun Aminah and Sultan ismail hospitals are good.

I guess different strokes for different folks.

So cant rule the govt ones out either. Especially when he mentioned that some Singaporeans prefer these hospitals to TTSH etc...

I was shocked myself.


I guess the service standard at Sultanah Aminah Hospital must have improved over the years.

My mother however refuses to be sent there coz of some unpleasant experiences she had had at the hospital few years ago.

fairies
26-04-2011, 03:46 AM
I have visited Columbia Asia Hospital 3 times in a month. Twice for my kid's fever cum cough and another time to send an aged relative for emergency due to fits. I must say the place is top notch, great environment and the nurses can speak good english.. for people like me who dont speak bahasa, its a boon in communication. I can even communicate well with the malay doctor in English. Very friendly service. Price is not that expensive either as my kid consultation and 4 different medicine came up to about RM 90. I budgetted for a few hundred bucks before I go.

Its almost immediate service as not many people know this place and also, most average Malaysians in nearby towns such as Bukit Indah, Tun Aminah etc still go to government hospital.

Normal birth I was told is about RM 2000+ and Caesarian about RM 4000-RM 5000. Great hospital with perfect tranquilty.

Thanks for your sharing. Very helpful. RM90 for a treatment with medication at a good private hospital is not bad indeed. Especially when service is top notch without much time wasted in waiting to be attended by doc. That is why when my family had emergency, we skipped TTSH but sent to KTPH instead, much much less crowded.

I wish someone can help me make comparison between the cost for a Malaysian getting treatment in a Singapore public hospital (S$) and for the same person getting treatment in Malaysian private hospital like Columbia (RM)

matix
26-04-2011, 05:10 AM
Here is a quotiation for my Master Bedroom Cabinet:-

1. Wardrobe in Laminate at Master Bedroom
Size: 3000L X 600D X 2930H RM$ 5,500.00

2. Frameless Mirror Panel at Master Bedroom
Size: 1855L X 1200H RM$ 810.00

Total is RM$6,310.00


My hubby thought its very expensive. Bros and Sis here, what do you think? Can get any cheaper?

Signature Kitchen has a promotion for their Stello wardrobe. Was at their showroom at Taman Molek yesterday, and saw that the biggest size, 10 feet, is about RM3K plus... They will come measure and make to order to fit in exactly what you need in your room. Hope this helps..

http://www.signaturekitchen.com.my/stello.php

Analytical Professor
26-04-2011, 05:45 AM
Some links of Hospitals in Johor

http://www.regencyspecialist.com/

I think the above is a fantastic and very good hospital. CPF (medisave) usage is allowed based on T&Cs


http://www.jsh.kpjhealth.com.my/

http://hmersing.moh.gov.my

http://hkotatinggi.moh.gov.my

http://htgk.moh.gov.my



Hospital Batu Pahat
Jalan Kurma,
Tmn Soga,
83000 Batu Pahat
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Kluang
Jalan Hospital
86000 Kluang
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Kota Tinggi
Jalan Lombong
81900 Kota Tinggi
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Mersing
Jalan Ismail
86800 Mersing
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Pakar Sultanah Fatimah,
Jalan Salleh
84000 Muar
Johor , Malaysia



Hospital Permai
Jalan Tampoi
81200 Johor Bahru
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Pontian
Jalan Alsagoff
82000 Pontian
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Segamat
KM 6, Jalan Genuang
85000 Segamat
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Sultan Ismail
Jalan Persiaran Mutiara Emas Utama,
Taman Mount Austin,
81000 Johor Bharu
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Sultanah Aminah
80100 Johor Bahru
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Tangkak
Jalan Hospital
84900 Tangkak
Johor , Malaysia


Hospital Temenggung Seri Maharaja Tun Ibrahim
81000 Kulai
Johor , Malaysia

euphony
26-04-2011, 07:15 AM
Thanks for your sharing. Very helpful. RM90 for a treatment with medication at a good private hospital is not bad indeed. Especially when service is top notch without much time wasted in waiting to be attended by doc. That is why when my family had emergency, we skipped TTSH but sent to KTPH instead, much much less crowded.

I wish someone can help me make comparison between the cost for a Malaysian getting treatment in a Singapore public hospital (S$) and for the same person getting treatment in Malaysian private hospital like Columbia (RM)

my father was recently requiring emergency medical attention. sent him to government hospital RM$1. Need to be warded. RM$20. No extras. MYsian.

geritan
26-04-2011, 09:05 AM
hi all

I have installed a TV antenna on the roof of my house in Austin Heights for RM600, with three TV points in the house. The reception is very good and sharp - able to receive all Spore channels and a number of malaysia's. I understand that the quality for those that charge about RM300-400 is not so good.

Can contact Mr Siew :019-776-7778 if keen.

hi, austin_hts, do you have any good reliable reno contractor to recomend? tks.

Chillout
26-04-2011, 11:48 AM
LeMans is right that all plots in LF are FH individual titled except Bayou Water Village and Pingiran Bayou



Yes LeMans, I might be wrong.
I considered buying a second hand bungalow in LF from its owner (dont know whether its bayou water village, pinggiran bayou or others). It was when I was told by the owner that it's strata titled. Was told by a friend who owns an apartment in LF that vacant bungalow lands in the same vicinity are also strata titled.
That was the only info source that I have.
Again, I might be wrong

Chillout
26-04-2011, 11:58 AM
I was at EL/LH looking for Semi-D. All sold out and all future phases are for bungalows only according to the manager there. He also confirmed that all land sold out.

Was there mid last year and I was the last person to put money down (and withdrawn) for a plot before they withdraw balance lots for their own development.

If you are keen in LF, which I had bought a lot, PM me for info.



http://ledangheight.com/

The mansions and villas certainly look impressive. I hope Ledang Height has already beefed up its security as all these bungalows/mansions in this website definitely beats those ugly interior of Horizon Hills hands down! Anyone has bought any of these? I may want to arrange for viewing next week. If the price is good, may try out and stay there myself cos its damn near to Singapore

Chillout
26-04-2011, 12:07 PM
BFF, you are not allowed to subdivide or build more than 1 house on the plot of land you buy. You can't sell part of the land too. The idea is not to crowd out the area and therefore devalue it.

I have gone thru it all.



Hi everyone here

I've been struggling to read the whole thread and i suppose i've done maybe only 10% of it. It's really long but really nice read. Thanks to Wuqi for starting such a great thread here. Really appreciate that you spent the time and effort to contribute so much over here.

I've stayed overseas for many years before heading back to Sinkeland for the last 4 years plus and I think it has sucked a lot of my energy out also my blood as well! I'm a bit sick and tired of their nonsense. I long missed the space I have enjoyed overseas.

I only need half that size to build a dream home. I do not like the designs at HH, I like the idea at LF but not allowed to alter a lot of stuff. I would really love to design and build a nice home. It's hard work but it's memory of a life time.

Anyway I have a question that has pondering in my mind, Ledang heights land 20,000 sq ft. Has anyone or would it be possible to buy and only utilize half the land and sell off this other half or split it with someone?

Looking forward to hear from all the bros and experts here. I'm open to all positive and negative critics on how possible it would be to acheive this.

Warmest regards

BFF

Chillout
26-04-2011, 12:11 PM
You would have to buy LH land in the secondary market and build your own bungalow


Hi Fairie,

REcently I am looking into investing in Ledang Height as I have been paying too much attention to EL. May I know if you bought the land and built the bungalow yourself or its ready-made? Cos I understand in LH people would buy land to build their own bungalow. Cant even built semi ds.

echanbonfire01
26-04-2011, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the info. Btw your house is Type B? Is it completed already?

Mine is the first batch of ND cluster. Its completed now waiting for keys. I fall in love with ND as it is close to HABIB 24hours coffeeshop where i can surf their wifi and a the same time try those chapati or tosay. Also there are shops within 200m from ND. For those who do not want to drive to go shopping, this is the place.

Chillout
26-04-2011, 12:26 PM
Thanks Horizonhills for the update.

RM5k to RM13k! That is a big difference.

Will visit HH for Semi-D since EL is out. Bungalow going from RM2.5mil up. Most likely launching in a week. Dissapointed with the quality and design.

LF has better designs.

My neighbour is selling his bungalow and asking RM1.9mil up I think. Anyone interested can PM me. A few bungalows are available for rental too.


Hi the rental in EL and HH Semi-Ds ( SD ) range from RM 5000 to RM 13000. I got a feeling that since the beginning of the year, two main factors have pushed up the sale/rental price and is still pushing.

1) The Spore government rule on 60% loan for 2nd property onwards have caused many investors to look into Nusajaya.
2) The Staits Time article which has prompted many people with a little itch to move to JB have spurred them to Horizon Hills, EL etc.

I am waiting for Malaysia government to change the rule again and allow us to get a 80-90% loan for our 3rd investment on houses. Then many will push up the prices further.

mingsg
26-04-2011, 01:01 PM
Hi I saw your post and I am also very interested in living in JB and hope you can advise on which areas is safe and mid range priced?

I am going to move in first before moving my family over. 2 storey will be good. Hope you can assist us as a Singapore fellow.

Thank you.

Ming



One other thing, it is also pretty safe there, at least in the confines of the resort and it has its own cafe, etc. Its also near Jusco, not far from Giant, Tesco, etc and they are building Legoland and a major hospital facility there. We normally go by 2nd link as there are very few cars there on weekdays and i would say so far so good. We also rented cars in JB to travel around so as to kind of blend in. :)

avalon74
26-04-2011, 01:21 PM
Nevermind I think more worth to get double storey, 1 & half storey seem very small and hard to re-sell next time?

The 1 & half storey has a nice balcony which my wife likes.. so now pondering on the feasibility of creating a balcony..

Grago
26-04-2011, 01:22 PM
Hi Dapbest, you've got me thinking of prata now...... where is Habib? Is ND= Nusa Damai? Appreciate if you could enlighten.

I love the prata at Habib. How I wish I can makan breakfast over at Habib daily. I find that its actually quite peaceful daily from 7am-9am. It gets crowded only come nighttime

avalon74
26-04-2011, 01:39 PM
But i guess Setia Eco Gardens is marketed differently.

Its marketed and branded as essentially living amidst nature (on the lines of the famous Setia Eco Park close to KL)

The one at KL was a resounding success.

At Setia Eco Gardens they are obviously trying to emulate the Setia Eco Park model.

Now you dun have to worry dear avalon.

Setia is not the kind of developer who will leave you in the lurch IMHO. Setia has a lot at stake.

So obviously they will do their best to give you value for money.

When i bought into Setia Tropika initially i was skeptical and worried. But not anymore.

With the number of new commercial projects in the pipeline... it can never be a failure.

Same goes for Setia Eco Gardens. It will be good. I must say you have a pretty nice group of people living around you. People who do not bat an eyelid to pay upto Rm 200k for reno.

Thanks Prof.. hope the precinct age gracefully in years to come..
you had frens who did reno up to 200K??

austin_hts
26-04-2011, 01:43 PM
Hi

You can consider the following contractors -

Mr Chan, hp : 012-721-8512
Did our front gate / wall (yes, we replaced the original gate and re-build the wall; quite common in Austin Heights). Reliable & trustworthy. His company does interior design and full reno for houses / retail shops both in Malaysia and Spore.

Mr Kenny Lee, hp : 019-733-3099
Recommended byour neighbour. Provided us with quotation for front gate / wall too, but we preferred Mr Chan's design. I was told he is the main contractor for at least few hundred units in Austin Heights (I am not sure if this is true). In any case, I am sure many owners living here know him as he greeted quite a number of them when he brought us around to look at units renovated by his company. Some owners even provide him with spare keys in case their house alarm goes off when no one is at home. We did get him to modify our water pipes to direct source and install water heater (storage tank type).

For water heater / pipes, direct contact is Mr Loke, hp : 014-619-6688. May be cheaper to contact him directly. Again, many owners here seem to know him...


Btw, those living in HH, ST, EL, ND ..etc, do you have a low water pressure issue? When we first moved in, we found out that low water pressure is normal because the water flows from the water tank placed in the ceiling. Only the kitchen tap gets direct water supply. Hence we spent about RM1300 to modify pipings so that water points receive direct water source. This is quite common, but some choose to install water pump. We also paid RM700 to change some pipes to stainless steel type that can withstand the strong water pressure from direct source. Now, we can have nice showers; and watering plants and washing cars become easier ...



hi, austin_hts, do you have any good reliable reno contractor to recomend? tks.

matix
26-04-2011, 01:46 PM
[QUOTE=dapbest;707849]Hi there,
Anyone know if East Ledang is still offering the rm30k kitchen voucher from signature kitchen? RM 30k is indeed a great bargain i must say as the reno for my kitchen Which is about rm10k already[/QUOTE

I know they stop for Phase 2 already. Not sure if the bungalows are coming with any voucher.

geritan
26-04-2011, 02:07 PM
Hi

You can consider the following contractors -

Mr Chan, hp : 012-721-8512
Did our front gate / wall (yes, we replaced the original gate and re-build the wall; quite common in Austin Heights). Reliable & trustworthy. His company does interior design and full reno for houses / retail shops both in Malaysia and Spore.

Mr Kenny Lee, hp : 019-733-3099
Recommended byour neighbour. Provided us with quotation for front gate / wall too, but we preferred Mr Chan's design. I was told he is the main contractor for at least few hundred units in Austin Heights (I am not sure if this is true). In any case, I am sure many owners living here know him as he greeted quite a number of them when he brought us around to look at units renovated by his company. Some owners even provide him with spare keys in case their house alarm goes off when no one is at home. We did get him to modify our water pipes to direct source and install water heater (storage tank type).

For water heater / pipes, direct contact is Mr Loke, hp : 014-619-6688. May be cheaper to contact him directly. Again, many owners here seem to know him...


Btw, those living in HH, ST, EL, ND ..etc, do you have a low water pressure issue? When we first moved in, we found out that low water pressure is normal because the water flows from the water tank placed in the ceiling. Only the kitchen tap gets direct water supply. Hence we spent about RM1300 to modify pipings so that water points receive direct water source. This is quite common, but some choose to install water pump. We also paid RM700 to change some pipes to stainless steel type that can withstand the strong water pressure from direct source. Now, we can have nice showers; and watering plants and washing cars become easier ...

tks for the info. how about immigration issue. we will be commute out to sin daily for work and school. do we need to apply any permit?

Avonup
26-04-2011, 03:04 PM
Actually MM2H is not a key requirement, i have get by almost 2 years without needing it but still its a good to have especially if you have tax concerns and want to stay here for up to 10 years and get 2 cars in here without paying taxes. ;)

Thanks Wuqi,
If you happened to know someone who has obtained MM2H, I would be interest to find out more. Your assistance is much appreciated.

wuqi256
26-04-2011, 03:41 PM
Just came back from Habib, slurpz. I am thinking to join my relatives, friends and colleagues who are also now owners in Nusa Duta, going to take the plunge :P

Thanks a lot to the bros for all the inputs with regards to the hospitals and medical care, one of my neighbours recently went to the private hospitals here, very impressed. He is going to move his dad over from SG. I strongly urge those who have relatives and friends suffering from chronic illnesses and who are not financially well off to start thinking of coming out here. I hope more affordable healthcare can be available to the poor as no one is going to help us but ourselves.

With Gleneagles setting up a sister company and Peter Lim getting a branch of the "Thomson Medical Centre" here, some of the other guys who prefer private hospitals will also benefit.

wuqi256
26-04-2011, 03:46 PM
Prof, 200k is a lot depending on which estate. I have seen even those in ungated and unguarded ones putting some houses in HH to shame.
On the other hand, some people really went a teeny bit overboard. 150k - 200k is pretty standard in some developments, most of neighbour houses ranges from than 150k but this pales in comparison with more than a few who spent like 500k to 1.2million (i kid you not) to renovate, build koi ponds, "zen" gardens and even a big swing in the middle of a pond! (connected by nice granite slabs)

The money spent could have bought many other houses but different things appeal to different people i guess.Some of my neighbours even took down all their external walls and rebuilt. Some nicely, some maybe require a little bit more taste.

wuqi256
26-04-2011, 03:48 PM
Hi

Btw, those living in HH, ST, EL, ND ..etc, do you have a low water pressure issue? When we first moved in, we found out that low water pressure is normal because the water flows from the water tank placed in the ceiling. Only the kitchen tap gets direct water supply. Hence we spent about RM1300 to modify pipings so that water points receive direct water source. This is quite common, but some choose to install water pump. We also paid RM700 to change some pipes to stainless steel type that can withstand the strong water pressure from direct source. Now, we can have nice showers; and watering plants and washing cars become easier ...

Thanks for sharing Austin Heights, yes i did that for most of my houses as well. A friend of mine did for his houses too but got complained by neighbours as a bit too noisy (for terrace houses) if they use it at night. Its a common problem, we fixed some of ours for about 1.1k. The one we live in came with the basic pump for the showers so this is still ok.

wuqi256
26-04-2011, 03:51 PM
Hi Dapbest, you've got me thinking of prata now...... where is Habib? Is ND= Nusa Damai? Appreciate if you could enlighten.

Yes, very nice prata. It is ND = Nusa Duta. Very near to the Giant hypermarket and further up from the Ali cafe row. Do check on Habibs pricing sometimes, with so many of us patronizing it round the clock, they sometimes do "over charge" especially if they think you wouldn't notice.

My learned wife remarked to me once though when our neighbours kindly told us about this, aiyah even though overcharged, still cheaper then Singapore what..

Grago
26-04-2011, 03:56 PM
Thanks Wuqi, oops.... Nusa Duta:o Will keep an eye out and Yes, everything is much cheaper than Singapore......:D Night..


Yes, very nice prata. It is ND = Nusa Duta. Very near to the Giant hypermarket and further up from the Ali cafe row. Do check on Habibs pricing sometimes, with so many of us patronizing it round the clock, they sometimes do "over charge" especially if they think you wouldn't notice.

My learned wife remarked to me once though when our neighbours kindly told us about this, aiyah even though overcharged, still cheaper then Singapore what..

wuqi256
26-04-2011, 04:05 PM
I went through pretty humbling experiences after being out here in JB. I am sure there are lots of good people all over the world as well, even especially in SG but living out here gives me more time and opportunity to mingle with people.

There are some who drives lousy cars but have nice bank accounts. There are those that live in small houses but donates a lot to charity/church/temples monthly.

I even know of one family, its a large family, they lost their sister when they were young as due to superstition in the early days, they had to give her away to a Malay couple. They never forgot about her and tried all sorts of means and ways to find her.

Fast forward 20 years later, they finally found her and reunited with her but found to their horrow that the adopted family never sent her to school (as they were too poor) She was a very bright lady who despite having no education, managed to support her family through her acute business acumen.

A couple of the sisters and brothers went together and bought her a house. Nothing spectacular but how many of us can say that our siblings care enough even in the first place. They also gave her a small sum to start her business. Till today they still keep in touch and see each other on all the related festivals.

I was more than touched, living out here, having more space and time to smell the roses, i saw things that i seldom see back in SG. We have regular neighbours who will give us plants, fruits, food, engine parts even out of the blue. We reciprocate as well, when people go overseas, they leave us their keys and we leave ours as well. When there are good deals, we will pop over excitedly to share and talk etc. I find that in large countries i went to, the people do tend to have more time to talk to you, rather than just wham, bam, thank you mdm. This place is not perfect, its just different, it really grows on you.

Its a kind of kampong spirit i missed ever since we moved out of the kampong in SG when i was little. I wished my grandfather was still alive and living out here, he would have been proud of my dad and could enjoy the easy life he never got to enjoy(cancer took him away from me very shortly in the same year i was conscripted).

I would gladly die 20 years younger if he could have live much longer and enjoy life. Bros, please stop smoking, i am still trying to convince my dad but for the sake of your loved ones, please please please stop.

You may have a son, a daughter or grandchildren who always loved you silently and wants to be fillial to you but can only do so every Qing Ming, sweeping and weeping at your grave.

Analytical Professor
26-04-2011, 04:29 PM
Not me... My wifes suppliers.

They liked the resort feel they said at Setia Eco Gardens.

they mentioned it was a place for them to unwind and chill.

Ofcourse it should age gracefully. Though there could be management committee problems which every estate will have.


Thanks Prof.. hope the precinct age gracefully in years to come..
you had frens who did reno up to 200K??

Analytical Professor
26-04-2011, 04:36 PM
Yeap my wife told me that at the mamak shops if you are not careful it is 1, 2, 3 and then becomes $10 somehow...

Lucky for me i dun eat pratas (dunno where they originate from).

The North Indians make parathas/tandoor rotis/naans (not the naans at the mamak shops) (hard to find in spore and malaysia). .

Now where did prata come from? I dunno. Would love to learn that bit.



Yes, very nice prata. It is ND = Nusa Duta. Very near to the Giant hypermarket and further up from the Ali cafe row. Do check on Habibs pricing sometimes, with so many of us patronizing it round the clock, they sometimes do "over charge" especially if they think you wouldn't notice.

Analytical Professor
26-04-2011, 04:42 PM
Yes the low water pressure is cause the water comes from the overhead tank which is not able to create sufficient pressure.

A couple of guys i know changed their water connections to link directly to the source (which is the main tank at the Taman) to increase water pressure.

And ever since they say they have wonderful water pressure everywhere

Costed them Rm 350 at Setia Tropika.

Analytical Professor
26-04-2011, 06:29 PM
So what i heard was definitely true after all.

Just imagine Rm 1 and then Rm 20....

Phew and we pay a lot more than that (S$65--old rate) and still dun get warded!!!

Lots of govt hospitals and reasonably good treatment.


my father was recently requiring emergency medical attention. sent him to government hospital RM$1. Need to be warded. RM$20. No extras. MYsian.




Thanks a lot to the bros for all the inputs with regards to the hospitals and medical care, one of my neighbours recently went to the private hospitals here, very impressed. He is going to move his dad over from SG. I strongly urge those who have relatives and friends suffering from chronic illnesses and who are not financially well off to start thinking of coming out here. I hope more affordable healthcare can be available to the poor as no one is going to help us but ourselves.

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 12:41 AM
So what i heard was definitely true after all.

Just imagine Rm 1 and then Rm 20....

Phew and we pay a lot more than that (S$65--old rate) and still dun get warded!!!

Lots of govt hospitals and reasonably good treatment.

More than that...S$65 is excluding medication whereas 1RM is including medication...medication can cost a few hundred or more...

People always say Singaporeans are so fortunate, now it is our turn to say Malaysians are so fortunate :D

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 12:51 AM
Yeap my wife told me that at the mamak shops if you are not careful it is 1, 2, 3 and then becomes $10 somehow...

Lucky for me i dun eat pratas (dunno where they originate from).

The North Indians make parathas/tandoor rotis/naans (not the naans at the mamak shops) (hard to find in spore and malaysia). .

Now where did prata come from? I dunno. Would love to learn that bit.

Mustafa got sell parathas (frozen type). I bought some to try, very thin pancakes, more healthy with whole wheat version...but i still prefer prata.

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 12:56 AM
Just came back from Habib, slurpz. I am thinking to join my relatives, friends and colleagues who are also now owners in Nusa Duta, going to take the plunge :P



Wow you're big investor here...recall you already have 4 houses in HH?

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 12:59 AM
The 1 & half storey has a nice balcony which my wife likes.. so now pondering on the feasibility of creating a balcony..

Oh I see, yeah design is subjective...where are you creating the balcony? Is it a corner house so can add the balcony at the corner?

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 01:04 AM
Mine is the first batch of ND cluster. Its completed now waiting for keys. I fall in love with ND as it is close to HABIB 24hours coffeeshop where i can surf their wifi and a the same time try those chapati or tosay. Also there are shops within 200m from ND. For those who do not want to drive to go shopping, this is the place.

Yeah, very convienient location - can drive, can walk, can take bus (CW3) :)

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 01:20 AM
Someone is selling me his twin villas at East Ledang ( resale ).. do you guys think this is a good buy?

What price huh? Thought cannot resell before completion?

mallow
27-04-2011, 01:20 AM
Hi I saw your post and I am also very interested in living in JB and hope you can advise on which areas is safe and mid range priced?
I am going to move in first before moving my family over. 2 storey will be good. Hope you can assist us as a Singapore fellow.
Thank you. Ming
Hi Ming. This is a very good forum to read through, and please take a look at my weblog at www.puterim.com for all sorts about actually living here.
There are roughly three areas to choose from, the long established JB which is closer to Woodlands, Nusajaya which is across from Tuas, and the rest of a huge Johor.
Many of us newbies [moving here in the last 5 years] choose Nusajaya as it is a newer area that stretches close enough to make Woodlands an option if you need to go often enough to Singapore.
Read up first, because there is a lot of info to absorb, check out the many possible developments personally and then ask all the questions you may still need to because many of us will be happy to try and assist.
Good health and good luck!

Serenity
27-04-2011, 01:23 AM
What price huh? Thought cannot resell before completion?

Probably it is the Phase 1 unit, UOBM just gave me an indicative of RM1.3m to RM1.4m for the twin villas phase 1.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 01:25 AM
When the guy told me about the Rm 1 thingie on Friday last i could not believe my ears. Thought he was talking nonsense.

Yes Malaysians are fortunate indeed. Low cost housing and now low cost medical treatment too.

Not to mention lower cost of living and a better standard of living.


More than that...S$65 is excluding medication whereas 1RM is including medication...medication can cost a few hundred or more...

People always say Singaporeans are so fortunate, now it is our turn to say Malaysians are so fortunate :D

mallow
27-04-2011, 01:27 AM
I went through pretty humbling experiences after being out here in JB. I am sure there are lots of good people all over the world as well, even especially in SG but living out here gives me more time and opportunity to mingle with people.....

Its a kind of kampong spirit i missed ever since we moved out of the kampong in SG when i was little. I wished my grandfather was still alive and living out here, he would have been proud of my dad and could enjoy the easy life he never got to enjoy(cancer took him away from me very shortly in the same year i was conscripted). I would gladly die 20 years younger if he could have live much longer and enjoy life. Bros, please stop smoking, i am still trying to convince my dad but for the sake of your loved ones, please please please stop. You may have a son, a daughter or grandchildren who always loved you silently and wants to be fillial to you but can only do so every Qing Ming, sweeping and weeping at your grave.

Hi Wuqi, only a TINY number of people can actually quit cold. Cigarette smoking is a physical addiction that you can actually get rid of in 3 weeks, but the psychological addiction is another matter. This is my story which I confessed on puterim.com, because I COULD NOT QUIT even though I desperately wanted to.
Disastrous news: cigarettes and tobacco are significantly cheaper
When the price of a box of 20 fags went up to S$11.30 three years ago, both my husband and I were still smoking and such was our addiction (more than 40 years and 30ish years respectively) we would have preferred to give up food rather than tobacco.
Coming to Johor was devastating as a box of kretek – the only thing I smoked - was a throwaway RM$5, so I increased my smoking to two packs a day, and congratulated myself on how much money I was saving. Idiot!
Well, eventually I really wanted to quit. But even six months of fervent morning prayer, the feeling of weakness and dizziness and general ill health had me lighting up within 10 minutes of getting out of bed.
Not to speak of searching out stogies in the ashtray if it was too late at night to go out for another pack. Some people can quit cold – I simply could not.
The cure took an unbelievable single afternoon (about four hours) with Pam Oei, that divine Dimsum Dollie, who teaches Allen Carr’s Easyway to Quit Smoking with a money back guarantee. My husband also quit cold, and that is after 40 long years.
Pam was herself a tobacco addict, and was so impressed by the method’s results she bought into the franchise. We didn’t even need any additional hand-holding (though she did very sweetly keep email contact open and sent encouragement).
So if you want to quit but just cannot, call Pam at (65) 63299630. I will not bore you with how gloriously liberating it is to be free of that total addiction.
There is a limited smoking ban in Malaysia for 19 categories of places, including hospitals, medical clinics, public elevators, public restrooms, air-conditioned restaurants, public transport, government premises, educational institutions, gas stations, internet cafes, and shopping complexes. This does not extend to bars, cafes, and many open areas.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 01:29 AM
I think i did not mention that this guy also told me that the dental treatment is Rm2. Just imagine in Singapore a Root Canal Treatment can set you back by a minimum of S$ 3000 (upwards) depending on where you do it, the material of the crown, expertise of doctor, location etc.

I never did any of my Root Canals here in Sg. I can buy a flight ticket out complete my root canal, come back and still sometimes have money to spare.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 01:31 AM
The thin ones may be whole wheat chapati (yes definitely the healthiest of the lot).

Prata too unhealthy for my not so healthy body size he he...


Mustafa got sell parathas (frozen type). I bought some to try, very thin pancakes, more healthy with whole wheat version...but i still prefer prata.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 01:42 AM
Thats sound advice.

Lots of information to gather and absorb. Quite a painful process that.

And yes lots of questions will follow...



Read up first, because there is a lot of info to absorb, check out the many possible developments personally and then ask all the questions you may still need to because many of us will be happy to try and assist.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 01:49 AM
Hi Mallow,

Seek your expert comments on the nightlife situation in JB (not the sleazy variety).

The one you can bring your wife to.... Good and decent pubs. Are there any?

I visit one O Reilly's at Taman Molek

O'REILLY'S Irish Tavern & Grill
54, Jalan Molek 2/2,
Taman Molek,
81100 Johor Bahru.

Quite a nice place. I especially like the group of 3 who sing there (can shame the singers at the Raffles Hotel Long Bar)


http://j-travel.blogspot.com/2010/12/oreillys-irish-tavern-grill-at-taman.html


Decent food as well (dun like their chicken wings though)

The salads are great.

Would you be kind enough to add to the list or comment?








This does not extend to bars, cafes, and many open areas.

Narmi
27-04-2011, 02:26 AM
Dear learned forumers I am new here even though I have been following the thread for a year as visitor and am amazed at the camarederie of this group. Keep it up!

I have a question and sincerely hope any of you could assist me with an answer. If I have booked a house from the developer and paid the 1k deposit, can I revert my decision not to proceed with the purchase? Any costs hidden or otherwise involved?

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 02:52 AM
Signature Kitchen has a promotion for their Stello wardrobe. Was at their showroom at Taman Molek yesterday, and saw that the biggest size, 10 feet, is about RM3K plus... They will come measure and make to order to fit in exactly what you need in your room. Hope this helps..

http://www.signaturekitchen.com.my/stello.php

Matix, just one question, are their wardrobe standard colour? Or we can have a variety to chose from?

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 02:59 AM
Hi

You can consider the following contractors -

Mr Chan, hp : 012-721-8512
Did our front gate / wall (yes, we replaced the original gate and re-build the wall; quite common in Austin Heights). Reliable & trustworthy. His company does interior design and full reno for houses / retail shops both in Malaysia and Spore.

Mr Kenny Lee, hp : 019-733-3099
Recommended byour neighbour. Provided us with quotation for front gate / wall too, but we preferred Mr Chan's design. I was told he is the main contractor for at least few hundred units in Austin Heights (I am not sure if this is true). In any case, I am sure many owners living here know him as he greeted quite a number of them when he brought us around to look at units renovated by his company. Some owners even provide him with spare keys in case their house alarm goes off when no one is at home. We did get him to modify our water pipes to direct source and install water heater (storage tank type).

For water heater / pipes, direct contact is Mr Loke, hp : 014-619-6688. May be cheaper to contact him directly. Again, many owners here seem to know him...


Btw, those living in HH, ST, EL, ND ..etc, do you have a low water pressure issue? When we first moved in, we found out that low water pressure is normal because the water flows from the water tank placed in the ceiling. Only the kitchen tap gets direct water supply. Hence we spent about RM1300 to modify pipings so that water points receive direct water source. This is quite common, but some choose to install water pump. We also paid RM700 to change some pipes to stainless steel type that can withstand the strong water pressure from direct source. Now, we can have nice showers; and watering plants and washing cars become easier ...

My hubby bought the T joints and the Pipes from the shops at ST's Livistonia Square, then did the conversion to direct water source himself. Costed about RM$290 in total. Now water pressure is very good.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 03:18 AM
I think i did not mention that this guy also told me that the dental treatment is Rm2. Just imagine in Singapore a Root Canal Treatment can set you back by a minimum of S$ 3000 (upwards) depending on where you do it, the material of the crown, expertise of doctor, location etc.

I never did any of my Root Canals here in Sg. I can buy a flight ticket out complete my root canal, come back and still sometimes have money to spare.

Professor, my hubby will be looking to do an implant soon. Any suggestions?

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 03:28 AM
The thin ones may be whole wheat chapati (yes definitely the healthiest of the lot).

Prata too unhealthy for my not so healthy body size he he...

Actually, you can cook pratas without oils for instants ones selling at giant or ntuc. You just need to on medium to low heat and let it fluff up on its own. Turning occasionally. Takes a bit of patience. But I do it cause I find it more healthy. Outside selling use a lot of oil because its faster to cook and less easy to get burnt.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 03:32 AM
I paid Rm 350.

The pressure at Setia Tropika after conversion quite good right?

Every toilet and everywhere else as well pressure is fantastic.

Question is why dun they offer it direct then?

There must be an explanation for this right?


My hubby bought the T joints and the Pipes from the shops at ST's Livistonia Square, then did the conversion to direct water source himself. Costed about RM$290 in total. Now water pressure is very good.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 03:32 AM
So what i heard was definitely true after all.

Just imagine Rm 1 and then Rm 20....

Phew and we pay a lot more than that (S$65--old rate) and still dun get warded!!!

Lots of govt hospitals and reasonably good treatment.

Lotsa A & E for me last year. The subsidised rate was S$99 on consultation and more for medication. So imagine how much we can save on medical cost if we have an elderly who needs medical attentions regularly. I wonder how much their A & E charges?

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 03:39 AM
I paid Rm 350.

The pressure at Setia Tropika after conversion quite good right?

Every toilet and everywhere else as well pressure is fantastic.

Question is why dun they offer it direct then?

There must be an explanation for this right?

I remember Aaron was the one providing the photos images of the plan for the conversion right? My hubby just followed it exactly and the water pressure was fastastic after that.

I think its easier for them to connect it to the water tank instead of directly. Cost more to do it too. But sinces house have become more expensive, I hope this will be done for in the future precinct. Same as the TNB cables, all future precinct will be underground.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 03:52 AM
Implants?

Then implantologist is a must.

Suggestions if in Spore no choice NDC is the best IMHO.

If overseas depends on which country you wanna fly to and do it.

Couple of dentists in Johor but i cant vouch for their service/quality.


Professor, my hubby will be looking to do an implant soon. Any suggestions?

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 03:57 AM
Yeah it was Aaron who posted the wonderful sketches on conversions.

For me.... I am no good at DIY.

So no choice .... called an indonesian worker to do it for me.


I remember Aaron was the one providing the photos images of the plan for the conversion right? My hubby just followed it exactly and the water pressure was fastastic after that.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 03:59 AM
I heard its Rm 15 for foreigners.

Not sure how true.


I wonder how much their A & E charges?

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 04:02 AM
I heard its Rm 15 for foreigners.

Not sure how true.

Wow! RM15? No joke? Could you please provide me with the hospital's name? Address and phone nos too if its available. Thanks in advance.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 04:05 AM
Yeah it was Aaron who posted the wonderful sketches on conversions.

For me.... I am no good at DIY.

So no choice .... called an indonesian worker to do it for me.

yeah. My hubby a DIY man. Just like Aaron, can save a lot of money doing it yourself. But I think money not an issue for you lah.....But it is for me. Was suggesting him to pickup carpentry as well, but he said he is not good at wood work. LOL!

mallow
27-04-2011, 04:09 AM
Hi Mallow, Seek your expert comments on the nightlife situation in JB (not the sleazy variety). The one you can bring your wife to.... Good and decent pubs. Are there any?
Would you be kind enough to add to the list or comment?

Hi AP - much as I would like to, right now I cannot as I'm not a nightlife kinda gal. Will certainly begin immediately to find out and let you know soon. The good thing I have rediscovered in Johor, after missing it for literally decades in Singapore, is that people are keen to attend home parties when it is not a birthday or festival like Christmas or CNY, and actually have the time to do this. All sorts of parties: bbqs, full dinners, everyone-bring-a-dish buffets, celebrations of everything, going somewhere or coming back from somewhere, or for no real reason at all. Sometimes it's called "fellowship", a Rotary term, borrowed without excuse for a rave up. Music and singing with real guitars and piano, sometimes even a jam. These sorts of friendly things happened in Singapore before the 1970s and anti-Yellow Culture was proclaimed, which banned live music in nightclubs and a host of other 'hippie' things.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 04:19 AM
Hi AP - much as I would like to, right now I cannot as I'm not a nightlife kinda gal. Will certainly begin immediately to find out and let you know soon. The good thing I have rediscovered in Johor, after missing it for literally decades in Singapore, is that people are keen to attend home parties when it is not a birthday or festival like Christmas or CNY, and actually have the time to do this. All sorts of parties: bbqs, full dinners, everyone-bring-a-dish buffets, celebrations of everything, going somewhere or coming back from somewhere, or for no real reason at all. Sometimes it's called "fellowship", a Rotary term, borrowed without excuse for a rave up. Music and singing with real guitars and piano, sometimes even a jam. These sorts of friendly things happened in Singapore before the 1970s and anti-Yellow Culture was proclaimed, which banned live music in nightclubs and a host of other 'hippie' things.

Is it true? I haven't got to go to one of these parties yet. Those that we have in Singapore always comes with either Tupperware or MLM sales pitch. Always done with a motive. Sian liao. For me....

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 05:26 AM
http://findarticles.com/p/news-artic.../ai_n57323666/

July launch for exclusive condos in Danga Bay
by Ravi Nambiar

AZEA Properties, the Singapore consortium behind Johor's latest high-end condominium project in Danga Bay, is targeting to hold its first sales launch in July this year.

To be called Azea Properties @ Danga Bay (APDA), the exclusive development on 4.15 acres of prime waterfront land will comprise four luxury serviced apartment blocks, each 40 storeys high.

Its main proponent and brainchild Tan Yang Po said she anticipates no problems with sales as "the first block of 200 units has already been fully booked".

"In fact, response has been so overwhelming we have now started taking bookings for the second block," she said.

Tan, through her Singapore incorporated company, Imperial Marina Pte Ltd, is partnering two companies linked to local property and construction tycoon Datuk Lim Kang Hoo to spearhead the development.

The Singaporean will hold a 30 per cent equity in the development while the local joint-venture partners - Danga Bay Sdn Bhd and Pembinaan Sahabatjaya Sdn Bhd - will have a 37 per cent and 33 per cent share respectively.

Tan said the first block has been booked mainly by Singaporeans, Japanese, South Koreans, Taiwanese and Indonesians.
"They are attracted by the development's design and features which are comparable to some of the best in Singapore but without the same price tag.

"They are also confident that we, as the Singapore partner, will ensure that the development will be meticulously planned, executed and delivered to purchasers as promised."

APDA's expected gross development value of RM500 million will be derived from the sale of 800 residential units as well as shops that will be integrated into the development.

Initially, the units will be tagged from RM698psf - a benchmark for Johor Baru - with a typical one-room studio going for RM315,000 and a penthouse for over RM1 million each.

Subsequently, Tan said, prices will be revised upwards to RM750psf due to public response and the long waiting list for units in the second block.

Purchasers can expect their investment to come with top quality features such as extensively landscaped parks, seven floors of car- parking, observation lifts, infinity pools as well as world-class security systems.

Work on APDA, which will be along the former Lido Beach and involving major land reclamation works, will commence later this year with completion scheduled for 2014.

Danga Bay's joint venture with Imperial Marina is the second land deal it has done - in August, its subsidiary Iskandar Waterfront entered into a 60:40 partnership with Dijaya Corp Bhd for a high- end condominium and retail units on 37 acres.

The company owns 250 acres of prime waterfront land fronting the Straits of Johor and overlooking Singapore.

Copyright 2011
Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning Company. All rights Reserved.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 05:47 AM
No Cathy, if you read my posts you will notice i would love to find good bargains all the time.
Regarding DIY i am really no good at it. I am so scared to DIY cause im worried what if i end up damaging the surface instead. In that scenario i would have lost more. Hence i just pay for it.

You are right... Its a lot of money down the drain. Can be better spent on good massages instead.


yeah. My hubby a DIY man. Just like Aaron, can save a lot of money doing it yourself. But I think money not an issue for you lah.....But it is for me. Was suggesting him to pickup carpentry as well, but he said he is not good at wood work. LOL!

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 05:54 AM
Here you go..

http://www.malaysia.gov.my/EN/Relevant%20Topics/Health/NonCitizen/nHealthFacilities/nGovermentHospitalsTreatmentChargesForForeigners/Pages/HospitalCharges.aspx



Wow! RM15? No joke? Could you please provide me with the hospital's name? Address and phone nos too if its available. Thanks in advance.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 05:57 AM
No Cathy, if you read my posts you will notice i would love to find good bargains all the time.
Regarding DIY i am really no good at it. I am so scared to DIY cause im worried what if i end up damaging the surface instead. In that scenario i would have lost more. Hence i just pay for it.

You are right... Its a lot of money down the drain. Can be better spent on good massages instead.

I understand your concerns bro. My hubby don't know how he did, make until the water tank spill water on the back lane....It was dark and we had no lights. Fortunately he managed to solve the problem, working with just a torch light by himself. Very scary then.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 06:00 AM
Here you go..

http://www.malaysia.gov.my/EN/Relevant%20Topics/Health/NonCitizen/nHealthFacilities/nGovermentHospitalsTreatmentChargesForForeigners/Pages/HospitalCharges.aspx

Thanks for the website.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 06:07 AM
I. OUTPATIENT DEPARTMENT

Out patient are patients who get their treatment from the Outpatient department or Specialists clinics.

Charges For Malaysian citizen

Out Patient Department: RM 1.00

Specialist Clinic:

1. Referred by Government Medical Officer
Free for first visit.
RM 5.00 for subsequent visit excluding charges for investigation
Investigations are charged according to first class rate.

2. Referred by Private Practitioner
RM 30.00 for first visit
RM5.00 for subsequent visit excluding investigation charges
Investigations are charged according to first class rate.

3. Clinic visit after discharged from ward.
RM 5.00 for every visit including investigations charges

Charges For Non-Citizen


Out - patient Department : RM 15.00

Specialist clinic:

1. Referred by Government Medical Officer

RM 60.00 for first visit.
RM 10.00 for subsequent visit excluding charges for investigation
Investigations will be charged according to first class rate.

2. Referred by Private Practitioner
Same as above

3. Clinic visit after discharged from ward.
RM 10.00 for all visit excluding charges for investigations
Investigation will be charged according to first class rate.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 06:38 AM
Yeah... I am worried cause .... Eg i try to drill a hole in the wall.... End up plaster fall of.... More headache right?

Thats why.... i try to avoid it....

I remember during my house reno in Spore.... the interior decoration company guys accidentally drilled a hole into the water pipes.....

result lots of water in my living room (i had not moved in yet)

Now if something like this happens when I DIY i will be terribly upset.

Hence i prefer to pay....

Having said that its lots of money down the drain.....

Better spent on massages, travel and the works



I understand your concerns bro. My hubby don't know how he did, make until the water tank spill water on the back lane....It was dark and we had no lights. Fortunately he managed to solve the problem, working with just a torch light by himself. Very scary then.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 06:59 AM
Tell you something, when i did my Gate lights the guy who patched it up did not do a great job and hence the plaster (compound used) peeled of in several places.

I have tried to patch it up several times to no avail.

It looks great when i finish patching it up. But within a couple of weeks its all gone and i gotta redo it again.

How irritating!!


I understand your concerns bro. My hubby don't know how he did, make until the water tank spill water on the back lane....It was dark and we had no lights. Fortunately he managed to solve the problem, working with just a torch light by himself. Very scary then.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 07:13 AM
Tell you something, when i did my Gate lights the guy who patched it up did not do a great job and hence the plaster (compound used) peeled of in several places.

I have tried to patch it up several times to no avail.

It looks great when i finish patching it up. But within a couple of weeks its all gone and i gotta redo it again.

How irritating!!

Did you use white plaster? If you did, then you have to paint sealer as a base coat after it dried up. Followed by coloured paint. You can use a piece of wet cloth to wipe it before the plaster dry up completely to give it the smooth surface. Also, its better to use paint that covers hairline cracks. This was what I learn recently from helping my hubby out at our house in ST.

mallow
27-04-2011, 07:15 AM
Is it true? I haven't got to go to one of these parties yet. Those that we have in Singapore always comes with either Tupperware or MLM sales pitch. Always done with a motive. Sian liao. For me....
Yes sweetie, it is happens very often.
Two things: need to get to know Johorians and other Malaysians living in Johor; make friends with like-minded Singaporeans. Genuine friendship takes time to cultivate, of course, but new friends are not hard to make. Be open, sincere and ... friendly. Malaysians are wary that we show off, are too noisy and 'rough', talk only about money, complain a lot and only criticize. Need to quietly show that we really appreciate the space, green, peace, prices and all the other good stuff. And that we have many things to talk about besides the 5 Cs left behind.
Maybe start by giving your own party first with good food partially cooked at home and wine is so much cheaper here. Have you tried toddy? 'Coconut wine' and simply wonderful.
I am not a karaoke fan and prefer real music - but people are shy and find karaoke when others join in less intimidating.
Start small, it grows.
Meet at Kip Mart for tea and mee rebus; Habib's for a prata [roti cenai], ... whatever.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 08:02 AM
Yes i used the white plaster (got it from TESCO/Giant cant remember). They said it could seal all types of cracks.

So i pasted it. Ofcourse the finish was not smooth at all just as you wisely mentioned.

And i never knew that i had to put a sealant on top.

Now you know how much i know about DIY right?

Even fixing up screws and nuts is a pain to me so much so that my jetsetter wife does it for me!!!


Did you use white plaster? If you did, then you have to paint sealer as a base coat after it dried up. Followed by coloured paint. You can use a piece of wet cloth to wipe it before the plaster dry up completely to give it the smooth surface. Also, its better to use paint that covers hairline cracks. This was what I learn recently from helping my hubby out at our house in ST.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 08:14 AM
Yes i used the white plaster (got it from TESCO/Giant cant remember). They said it could seal all types of cracks.

So i pasted it. Ofcourse the finish was not smooth at all just as you wisely mentioned.

And i never knew that i had to put a sealant on top.

Now you know how much i know about DIY right?

Even fixing up screws and nuts is a pain to me so much so that my jetsetter wife does it for me!!!:(:(:(

Some people are naturally good at one thing. Others are good at another. Don't despair. But its good to learn to fix minor minor things around the house. Especially such a big one. Will definately save a lot. Go slow lah...learn on the job lor, have a bit of patience. You don't have to be perfect all the time you know? If my hubby mess up things around the house I will just smile, then find ways to advise him, searchings from the internet. :D

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 08:20 AM
I love toddy.... I drank it once with my dad many moons ago in Goa.... the real fresh one..... i drank it as a kid and love the taste to this day.

I have not been able to get toddy ever since.

I tried in Cambodia but it was too sour for my liking.

Recently my maid helped me secure fresh toddy in Bali.

I enjoyed it thoroughly.

So where and how do i get toddy in Johor?

Who drinks the toddy usually?


Yes sweetie, it is happens very often.
Have you tried toddy? 'Coconut wine' and simply wonderful.
.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 08:26 AM
1) I admit i have noticed too that wine is cheaper in Johor. Why? And there is a pretty good selection as well.

2) Talking about real music.... yes i like real music too. Hence i mentioned i prefer the Bistro at Taman Molek O Rielly's.

The girl sings pretty well. I repeat again.... their group can give the ones who sing at Long Bar, Raffles a good run for their money....

3) Im no good at Karaoke. Though i dun mind if good singers can sing for my listening pleasure:D:D:D.... On that note my wife sings very well at the karaoke sessions.

4) My wife and I enjoy spending time together. We hit the pubs often (not the disco variety not my cup of tea. I cant shake a leg. She can)


wine is so much cheaper here. Have you tried toddy? 'Coconut wine' and simply wonderful.
I am not a karaoke fan and prefer real music - but people are shy and find karaoke when others join in less intimidating.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 08:29 AM
Under your wings i learn.

Now that you have trained me im gonna try patching up the gate light wiring cracks one more time.

Wish me luck....

Gonna follow your instructions closely.

If it fails will jump over to your precint to find you (ie., if the security guards allow)

If you have realised Alexandra Avenue and Caryota are bang opposite each other...




Some people are naturally good at one thing. Others are good at another. Don't despair. But its good to learn to fix minor minor things around the house. Especially such a big one. Will definately save a lot. Go slow lah...learn on the job lor, have a bit of patience. You don't have to be perfect all the time you know? If my hubby mess up things around the house I will just smile, then find ways to advise him, searchings from the internet. :D

euphony
27-04-2011, 08:32 AM
Dear learned forumers I am new here even though I have been following the thread for a year as visitor and am amazed at the camarederie of this group. Keep it up!

I have a question and sincerely hope any of you could assist me with an answer. If I have booked a house from the developer and paid the 1k deposit, can I revert my decision not to proceed with the purchase? Any costs hidden or otherwise involved?

this need to clarify with developer. Most will charge admin fee in the high teens to hundreds. kind ones will withhold (e.g. cheque) for you and return you in full if reason is valid e.g. loan not approved.

euphony
27-04-2011, 08:39 AM
1) I admit i have noticed too that wine is cheaper in Johor. Why? And there is a pretty good selection as well.


dessert wines are very difficult to find. Italian collections in JB also very limited. though I have the good fortune of getting a very nice Chianti on discount in tescos a pleasant surprise. A nice grappa would set me back in hundreds one which I finally found in Jusco permas.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 08:41 AM
Professor, glad to hear that you have decided to give yourself another chance. Give yourself a pat on the shoulder. :)

Let's learn together lah. Can ask my hubby if you have any problem. He did the embedded wirings himself so I saw what he did and is able to tell you. I'm not the one who did it but I very kaypoh always ask him why he did this why he did that. :D

Oh yes. Before I forget, I saw my hubby using grey coloured cement on outdoor walls. Perhaps white coloured cement is for indoor. I'll ask my hubby again later.


Under your wings i learn.

Now that you have trained me im gonna try patching up the gate light wiring cracks one more time.

Wish me luck....

Gonna follow your instructions closely.

If it fails will jump over to your precint to find you (ie., if the security guards allow)

If you have realised Alexandra Avenue and Caryota are bang opposite each other...

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 08:46 AM
Agree with you... The way i looked at it was.... if i compared my Fairprice/Cold Storage/Shop n Save i think Jusco does a great job at wines..

In that sense Tesco/Jusco are far superior you would agree right?

My apologies if i am wrong there.
:o:o:o


dessert wines are very difficult to find. Italian collections in JB also very limited. though I have the good fortune of getting a very nice Chianti on discount in tescos a pleasant surprise. A nice grappa would set me back in hundreds one which I finally found in Jusco permas.

euphony
27-04-2011, 08:58 AM
Agree with you... The way i looked at it was.... if i compared my Fairprice/Cold Storage/Shop n Save i think Jusco does a great job at wines..

In that sense Tesco/Jusco are far superior you would agree right?

My apologies if i am wrong there.
:o:o:o

they're not bad for the common reds and whites and strong liqueur (surprisingly). though i lament the lack of specialty wine cellars that'll bring in rarer items like limoncello, grappa, vin santo etc.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 09:06 AM
Wow ....

I was going through the www.timesofindia.com website and guess what i saw?

While browsing the bollywood section i saw this advt

http://www.pemandu.gov.my/etp

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 09:08 AM
Talking about liquor... I think the local liquor is terrible right? Pardon me if i am wrong?

Ofcourse the imported brands like JW, Chivas, Martell etc are expensive with exorbitant taxes?

Correct me if i am wrong again please..



they're not bad for the common reds and whites and strong liqueur (surprisingly). though i lament the lack of specialty wine cellars that'll bring in rarer items like limoncello, grappa, vin santo etc.

toyohon
27-04-2011, 09:08 AM
Hi all,

I have a close friend who, somewhat unfortunately, decided too late (after the RM500k hike) to buy a property in JB. I understand that the amount set is a State guide but this friend of mine is really keen to get something within his budget of 350 - 380k thereabouts. I wonder anyone can share or got advise from lawyers whether it is possible for foreigners to get State consent to buy such lower-priced property?

Narmi
27-04-2011, 09:18 AM
this need to clarify with developer. Most will charge admin fee in the high teens to hundreds. kind ones will withhold (e.g. cheque) for you and return you in full if reason is valid e.g. loan not approved.

Thank you euphony for posting my query and answer them. I asked because my missus have 2nd thoughts and may not want to proceed eventually eventho we have put in 1k deposit last Sunday. We put in 1k deposit for a lot with uem but I have yet to furnish them with my other documents like my payslip etc.
Qn: Can i back out within the 14 day period? We may still proceed in the end though because honestly we like the place. Just want to know what is our rights in this instance. Thank you in advance for any helpful reply.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 09:20 AM
Hi all,

I have a close friend who, somewhat unfortunately, decided too late (after the RM500k hike) to buy a property in JB. I understand that the amount set is a State guide but this friend of mine is really keen to get something within his budget of 350 - 380k thereabouts. I wonder anyone can share or got advise from lawyers whether it is possible for foreigners to get State consent to buy such lower-priced property?

1. If he has a trusted Malaysian relative, just buy under their name and ask the lawyer to do a will to will it to him incase of death. But must make sure that person is trustable. This was what my friend did a couple of years ago. She bought for under RM$250k.

2. Give the seller some incentive and make sure the lawyer is a trusted one to do a debit note from the seller to the buyer.

Caveat Emptor huh.... :D

mallow
27-04-2011, 09:22 AM
I received 4 bottles as a gift - it was fresh and wonderful. One bottle was left over and refrigerated and slowly became fermented, which means to me that it became carbonated. Sparkling toddy! Bliss!
The commercial toddy is mostly of the second variety, I am told; the original fresh toddy is very hard to get, even in Johor.
Would you like me to pursue this and get a contact for either? Is the commercial kind ok?

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 09:47 AM
4 bottles as a gift? Wow.... Who is that kind soul? Can i make friends with him/her too?:D:D

I would love to get the original fresh toddy. Thats the best. Yes il be glad and grateful if you can help source it for me? :) The one my maid got in Bali was the fresh sort.. Really nice.

The commercial variety usually ends up sour. So am a bit reluctant to pursue the commercial sort.



I received 4 bottles as a gift - it was fresh and wonderful. One bottle was left over and refrigerated and slowly became fermented, which means to me that it became carbonated. Sparkling toddy! Bliss!
The commercial toddy is mostly of the second variety, I am told; the original fresh toddy is very hard to get, even in Johor.
Would you like me to pursue this and get a contact for either? Is the commercial kind ok?

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 10:01 AM
From what i know Setia allows you to back out and change your mind. Only under 2 conditions they wont refund you ie., if your loan is approved and if you have already signed your SPA.

In all other circumstances they will usually refund your deposit at Setia.


Thank you euphony for posting my query and answer them. I asked because my missus have 2nd thoughts and may not want to proceed eventually eventho we have put in 1k deposit last Sunday. We put in 1k deposit for a lot with uem but I have yet to furnish them with my other documents like my payslip etc.
Qn: Can i back out within the 14 day period? We may still proceed in the end though because honestly we like the place. Just want to know what is our rights in this instance. Thank you in advance for any helpful reply.

Grago
27-04-2011, 10:45 AM
AP, if memory serves me there is/was a Toddy shop in J.B. town itself on Jalan Sulaiman off Jalan Wong Ah Fook.( on your left hand side just before leading out to 'Woodland' CIQ way on Jalan Wong Ah Fook) I'm not sure if it's still there. I heard tell that apparently one could get 'fresh' toddy from there daily..... I don't know what the 'grade' is BUT you could try to see whether the outlet is still there. It's opposite a car/motorcycle workshop!!!!!

On a different note I am getting this error message whenever I try to open the "Sammyboy" web page

"Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 42 bytes) in /home/sammyboy/public_html/includes/class_core.php on line 802
" Does any one know how to fix this........ Thanks.

4 bottles as a gift? Wow.... Who is that kind soul? Can i make friends with him/her too?:D:D

I would love to get the original fresh toddy. Thats the best. Yes il be glad and grateful if you can help source it for me? :) The one my maid got in Bali was the fresh sort.. Really nice.

The commercial variety usually ends up sour. So am a bit reluctant to pursue the commercial sort.

Bigfatfish
27-04-2011, 12:26 PM
Hi BFF
I am not sure if it is possible to subdivide your plot for sale but i could imagine a lot of bureaucracy (+ possibly costs) involved, hence why don't you monitor for a plot of your ideal size? I am pretty sure there are 10,000 sft plots although in terms of psf it might be slightly higher.

hi LeMans2011

thank you for your reply. i've been surveying this part of malaysia only recently and i've been having great fun. was down at HH, EL and pass by LH last week. Hoping to check out LH this week, SEG and maybe HH again.

saw one nice unit at HH however looking at the layout plan, the unit i saw ill be blocked, hence not very ideal.

saw EL, really cool concept but something feels to be missing for me for the unit i saw. anyway, let''s see what i will find this weekend at LH and SEG and maybe ND.

Bigfatfish
27-04-2011, 12:52 PM
BFF, you are not allowed to subdivide or build more than 1 house on the plot of land you buy. You can't sell part of the land too. The idea is not to crowd out the area and therefore devalue it.

I have gone thru it all.

thanks for the info Chillout. tot of sharing with someone and build a semi d type of place. land is massive for even 8000 sq ft.

matix
27-04-2011, 01:03 PM
Matix, just one question, are their wardrobe standard colour? Or we can have a variety to chose from?

They have a few colors. But for the glossy UPVC types which is so much in nowadays, I think there is an upcharge. Their quality is comparable to those like Classics in Singapore. Just check out the East Ledang showrooms. I think the twin villas showrooms are done by them..

vincentck
27-04-2011, 01:24 PM
Just collected my keys for my rented terrace at The Gateway HH. Looking forward to the move next week!

hi there... mind sharing how much is your rent? My wife and I will be moving to Nusajaya too end of this year. PM me if you can. Thanks.

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 01:59 PM
Yes i used the white plaster (got it from TESCO/Giant cant remember). They said it could seal all types of cracks.

So i pasted it. Ofcourse the finish was not smooth at all just as you wisely mentioned.

And i never knew that i had to put a sealant on top.

Now you know how much i know about DIY right?

Even fixing up screws and nuts is a pain to me so much so that my jetsetter wife does it for me!!!

Professor, confirmed with my hubby already. External use grey cement. Internal use white cement.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 02:09 PM
Eh thats another mistake i made then.

Must go buy the white cement from hardware or diy shop right?
:(

aiyo.... then how to mix? Just add a lil bit of water.

no need to add fine sand or anything right?

k. il do it during the election weekend after i finish with voting.

this weekend cant do it. will be in vietnam.


Professor, confirmed with my hubby already. External use grey cement. Internal use white cement.

vincentck
27-04-2011, 02:32 PM
Hi I saw your post and I am also very interested in living in JB and hope you can advise on which areas is safe and mid range priced?

I am going to move in first before moving my family over. 2 storey will be good. Hope you can assist us as a Singapore fellow.

Thank you.

Ming

hi Ming, doesn't matter what nationality you are... everyone in this forum is here to help. If you can, drive in to Horizon Hills, East Ledang, Nusa Idaman and Nusa Duta to have a look during weekends. There are houses ranging from RM500k to a few million RM; depending on what you want. All are gated and guarded.

avalon74
27-04-2011, 02:32 PM
Oh I see, yeah design is subjective...where are you creating the balcony? Is it a corner house so can add the balcony at the corner?

Mine is intermediate terrace. Currently there is a RC flat roof outside the master bedroom. Contractor says no further need for reinforcement so just need the perimeter wall/railing, tiling & access door from bedroom.

toyohon
27-04-2011, 02:33 PM
1. If he has a trusted Malaysian relative, just buy under their name and ask the lawyer to do a will to will it to him incase of death. But must make sure that person is trustable. This was what my friend did a couple of years ago. She bought for under RM$250k.

2. Give the seller some incentive and make sure the lawyer is a trusted one to do a debit note from the seller to the buyer.

Caveat Emptor huh.... :D

Err, I was looking at above board/legal solutions but thanks anyway.:)

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 02:39 PM
Eh thats another mistake i made then.

Must go buy the white cement from hardware or diy shop right?
:(

aiyo.... then how to mix? Just add a lil bit of water.

no need to add fine sand or anything right?

k. il do it during the election weekend after i finish with voting.

this weekend cant do it. will be in vietnam.

Just checked with my hubby. Carpark use grey cement. See whether you can get from diy store.

If the hole isn't big, just add water to cement. If the hole is big, add water and sand to cement. Leave a few mm until dry, then use the one just add water to cement only for a smooth surface. Use the triangle applicator to do it for a flat surface.

echanbonfire01
27-04-2011, 02:47 PM
when to SenQ at Tebrau..bought a Samsung Tab P1000 for RM$1499 with 2 years warranty. pay with 12 instalments with rm$25 fee

I check at Peninsular its around $720

echanbonfire01
27-04-2011, 02:50 PM
Anyone bought Palazio condo unit here? its next to Sultan Ismail Hospital

cathylmg
27-04-2011, 03:03 PM
Anyone bought Palazio condo unit here? its next to Sultan Ismail Hospital


I remember it being very cheap. Less then RM100K to begin with. But foreigners not qualified.

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 03:59 PM
While driving along the Nusa Bestari road i noticed lots of shops offering competitively priced SPAs.

Need to try those over time.


Some offering at Rm 28 during happy hour.

Wow... nice!

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 04:03 PM
I would love to know if such options exist as well.
:D:D:D



Err, I was looking at above board/legal solutions but thanks anyway.:)

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 04:06 PM
Bro very easy to make a balcony. But quite hard to maintain it (whether you have maid or not)

Why?

Once you lay tiles.... You will be able to easily notice dust... And if not cleaned immediately the dust piles up and then it becomes harder to remove and finally the original sheen and shine is gone.

That is why my home at Setia Tropika no balcony/no tiles exposed to the elements of nature.

Its really a challenge to keep cleaning it.


Mine is intermediate terrace. Currently there is a RC flat roof outside the master bedroom. Contractor says no further need for reinforcement so just need the perimeter wall/railing, tiling & access door from bedroom.

contra
27-04-2011, 04:38 PM
Now where did prata come from? I dunno. Would love to learn that bit.

Chennai, India when they came to work the plantations in Malaya
You would have noticed Roti Canai (Malaysian name) = Roti Prata

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 05:01 PM
I dun think so mate.

Tell you why. Chennai is a name that came into existence in the last couple of years.

The previous name that existed for more than a 100 years was Madras.

Surprisingly its hard to find prata in India although you do find paratha, rotis and stuff. Rojak also not indian food.

Maybe prata came from parota (ceylon parota)!! i dunno..

Dunno why the mamak shop sells it?




Chennai, India when they came to work the plantations in Malaya
You would have noticed Roti Canai (Malaysian name) = Roti Prata

Analytical Professor
27-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Have not yet spoken about my Good Friday Easter weekend. Possibly tomorrow or day after...

But i was sent hunting for corriander leaves and mint leaves by my mum.

What a day.... I went to Jusco Tebrau and Tesco dun have

Then went to Tesco at Bukit Indah also dun have

Finally Jusco at Bukit INdah the organic section managed to find a small packet for Rm 2.

Mint leaves could not find anywhere.... Luckily mint is a sturdy herb and somehow manages to grow in my garden.

But the corriander herb just cant seem to make it.

mallow
27-04-2011, 06:10 PM
Have not yet spoken about my Good Friday Easter weekend. Possibly tomorrow or day after...

But i was sent hunting for corriander leaves and mint leaves by my mum.

What a day.... I went to Jusco Tebrau and Tesco dun have

Then went to Tesco at Bukit Indah also dun have

Finally Jusco at Bukit INdah the organic section managed to find a small packet for Rm 2.

Mint leaves could not find anywhere ....

On the other side of the highway is Kip Mart, a large wet market open till late night that sells all those vegetables and herbs and more; a large variety of fish and shellfish including scallops @ RM$8 a kg [probably defrosted but looking temptingly fresh]; all manner of fruit, meat and dry goods, particularly dried ikan bilis and so on. Very good tea and mee rebus at the stall somewhere in the middle. Emergency nasi leamk [i.e. cravings so will make do with second best] available too. Encompasses smaller 'supermarket', moneychanger, car/clothes/mobile phones/aquarium/plants/name it. Not everything you may want, not a sophisticated selection, but enough of other good stuff to work through.

LeMans2011
27-04-2011, 06:33 PM
Chennai, India when they came to work the plantations in Malaya
You would have noticed Roti Canai (Malaysian name) = Roti Prata

My India colleague says:
Nun - bread made without oil
Prata - bread made with oil

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 06:41 PM
The thin ones may be whole wheat chapati (yes definitely the healthiest of the lot).

Prata too unhealthy for my not so healthy body size he he...

No leh, the package label say it is paratha flat bread, something different that's why I bought...there are a few brands, both whole wheat and normal wheat flour type, come with veg or meat ingredients or plain...the Mustafa supermarket is now expanded and much larger than before, got a lot of things there, they even sell chocolate gift boxes in chiller cabinets...wonder why :confused:

ginfreely
27-04-2011, 06:45 PM
Mine is intermediate terrace. Currently there is a RC flat roof outside the master bedroom. Contractor says no further need for reinforcement so just need the perimeter wall/railing, tiling & access door from bedroom.

Oic, how much do they charge for such work?

Narmi
27-04-2011, 10:07 PM
Hi, are foreigners allowed to open a savings account in m'sia with or without m'sia loca address?

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 03:34 AM
1) Very good tea:)?? I love it.... (Must be kurang kurang manis for me)
2) Mee rebus?? My wife loves it.
3) Emergency Nasi Lemak... Wow....

Other side of highway?? That means opposite to Jusco is it? Sorry i am lost here. Need real directions..

Can help please?

Somewhere in the middle? Alamak.... How to find like that


On the other side of the highway is Kip Mart, a large wet market open till late night that sells all those vegetables and herbs and more; a large variety of fish and shellfish including scallops @ RM$8 a kg [probably defrosted but looking temptingly fresh]; all manner of fruit, meat and dry goods, particularly dried ikan bilis and so on. Very good tea and mee rebus at the stall somewhere in the middle. Emergency nasi leamk [i.e. cravings so will make do with second best] available too. Encompasses smaller 'supermarket', moneychanger, car/clothes/mobile phones/aquarium/plants/name it. Not everything you may want, not a sophisticated selection, but enough of other good stuff to work through.

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 03:35 AM
Over the Easter weekend the exchange rate i secured was 241.2 consistently.

Other bros got it better? Where?

fairies
28-04-2011, 03:50 AM
No leh, the package label say it is paratha flat bread, something different that's why I bought...there are a few brands, both whole wheat and normal wheat flour type, come with veg or meat ingredients or plain...the Mustafa supermarket is now expanded and much larger than before, got a lot of things there, they even sell chocolate gift boxes in chiller cabinets...wonder why :confused:

Mustafa is my first choice when it comes to indian cooking ... never failed to find corriander or any other essential ingredients

looking forward now to the new Mydin supermarket to be opened at Anjung near EL/LH ... hopefully they'll also provide the same convenience like Mustafa

wuqi256
28-04-2011, 03:52 AM
Kipmart was actually mentioned some time ago but here it is again, best place for fresh fruits, etc. Pretty interesting place BUT beware of the traffic especially at its back entrance carpark.

http://kipmart.com.my/cn/home

http://www.streetdirectory.com.my/malaysia/johor/travel/travel_id_2627/travel_site_150647/

To answer another forummer, you will need an introducer but the address, you still need someone to provide for you. Your introducer or a relative can do as well.

wuqi256
28-04-2011, 03:56 AM
For deposit refunds, HH refunds in full if you cannot get a loan, others like Nusa Duta refunds only 50% but have been known to give full as well on a case by case basis.

By the way, guys who are keen on the day running lights (almost next to the Station One Cafe) can have them installed at 90 RM (inclusive of installation) They do power windows as well as some car lights/led modding.

Its in the row opposite the Michellin place (They fix flat tyres at 5 RM, most shops fix for that price as well, if they know you well though, its usually free)

The guys at Michellin knows good places very nearby (within 1 min drive) to mod cars, put turbos etc.

fairies
28-04-2011, 04:00 AM
I dun think so mate.

Tell you why. Chennai is a name that came into existence in the last couple of years.

The previous name that existed for more than a 100 years was Madras.

Surprisingly its hard to find prata in India although you do find paratha, rotis and stuff. Rojak also not indian food.

Maybe prata came from parota (ceylon parota)!! i dunno..

Dunno why the mamak shop sells it?

can't find rojak india in India
can't find mee bandung in Bandung
can't find mee siam in Thailand
people of Java dont understand why some of us call our mee rebus as mee jawa
people in India never saw what we know as mee goreng mamak

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 04:01 AM
Actually Mustafa is the only place IMHO that stocks almost the entire range of Indian spices/snacks/food. The rest of the shops in Little India (Spore/Johor) usually cater to the palate of just 1-2 states deep in the South of India.

Now that mallow has advised me on KIP mart i will definitely be looking towards giving it a visit to check it out.


Mustafa is my first choice when it comes to indian cooking ... never failed to find corriander or any other essential ingredients

looking forward now to the new Mydin supermarket to be opened at Anjung near EL/LH ... hopefully they'll also provide the same convenience like Mustafa

fairies
28-04-2011, 04:03 AM
hi LeMans2011

thank you for your reply. i've been surveying this part of malaysia only recently and i've been having great fun. was down at HH, EL and pass by LH last week. Hoping to check out LH this week, SEG and maybe HH again.

saw one nice unit at HH however looking at the layout plan, the unit i saw ill be blocked, hence not very ideal.

saw EL, really cool concept but something feels to be missing for me for the unit i saw. anyway, let''s see what i will find this weekend at LH and SEG and maybe ND.

I wish you'll soon find one that best suits your dream .... happy hunting :)

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 04:05 AM
Hi Wuqi, yes you had mentioned this before when you advised me on KIP mart.

Thanks for the weblink.

They mentioned KIP mart Tampoi. Is this the same as the one at Skudai?

So which is the one mallow is referring to?

Is this the one at Tampoi? The one i already visited at Skudai? Are they the same?

Pardon my ignorance:o:o


Kipmart was actually mentioned some time ago but here it is again, best place for fresh fruits, etc. Pretty interesting place BUT beware of the traffic especially at its back entrance carpark.

http://kipmart.com.my/cn/home

http://www.streetdirectory.com.my/malaysia/johor/travel/travel_id_2627/travel_site_150647/

.

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 04:10 AM
2nd you, 3rd you, 4th you, 5th you ..... 100th you,..... on that note

Absolutely right!

I still dun understand where the hell mee goreng mamak originates in India? Or in which part of India?

How did most of this end up as Indian food?:confused::confused:


can't find rojak india in India
can't find mee bandung in Bandung
can't find mee siam in Thailand
people of Java dont understand why some of us call our mee rebus as mee jawa
people in India never saw what we know as mee goreng mamak

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 04:11 AM
Ok Wuqi i checked out the streetdirectory link you had provided.

The KIP Mart Skudai = Kip Mart Tampoi.

Now confirmed already thanks to the link from you.



Kipmart was actually mentioned some time ago but here it is again, best place for fresh fruits, etc. Pretty interesting place BUT beware of the traffic especially at its back entrance carpark.

http://kipmart.com.my/cn/home

http://www.streetdirectory.com.my/malaysia/johor/travel/travel_id_2627/travel_site_150647/

cathylmg
28-04-2011, 04:22 AM
2nd you, 3rd you, 4th you, 5th you ..... 100th you,..... on that note

Absolutely right!

I still dun understand where the hell mee goreng mamak originates in India? Or in which part of India?

How did most of this end up as Indian food?:confused::confused:

Because the Indians are the ones that sells it here lah. Same like Chop Suey in America. Can't find in China also wat...

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 04:28 AM
On that note of reasoning i accept it.

But what i have noticed in Spore and Malaysia is that most people assume and believe that its Indian food.

Almost everyone i have known (work place/neighbours/church/friends) believe its Indian food and are shocked when told its not!

Talking about American Chop Suey my sister cooks it extremely well....


Because the Indians are the ones that sells it here lah. Same like Chop Suey in America. Can't find in China also wat...

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 04:30 AM
Talking about China, while watching Martin Yans China on AFC he mentioned that China has some of the fiercest chillies in the world.



Can't find in China also wat...

cathylmg
28-04-2011, 05:05 AM
On that note of reasoning i accept it.

But what i have noticed in Spore and Malaysia is that most people assume and believe that its Indian food.

Almost everyone i have known (work place/neighbours/church/friends) believe its Indian food and are shocked when told its not!

Its indian food wat. Sold by indian mah....LOL! Mee hun soup is also chinese food here. Sold by Chinese mah....Where can you find in China rite?



Talking about American Chop Suey my sister cooks it extremely well....

Can help me get the recipe from her? Thanks in advance.

cathylmg
28-04-2011, 05:07 AM
Talking about China, while watching Martin Yans China on AFC he mentioned that China has some of the fiercest chillies in the world.

Correct. I heard from my chinese friends that can so hot until numb your taste bud after eating. So our curry is nothing to them.

euphony
28-04-2011, 06:10 AM
Anyone bought Palazio condo unit here? its next to Sultan Ismail Hospital


I remember it being very cheap. Less then RM100K to begin with. But foreigners not qualified.

this forum like nusajaya is moving very fast! Palazio is very easy entry because of the DIBs and 10% 'discount' as downpayment. though the sheer number of units will be a challenge in time to come i fear. i just got news that the final phase is launched. yes am an owner.

cathylmg
28-04-2011, 06:18 AM
this forum like nusajaya is moving very fast! Palazio is very easy entry because of the DIBs and 10% 'discount' as downpayment. though the sheer number of units will be a challenge in time to come i fear. i just got news that the final phase is launched. yes am an owner.

But foreigners not entitled to buy rite? Unless like you, a malaysian, if not must buy more then rm500k. No choice lah...

LeMans2011
28-04-2011, 07:00 AM
Chennai, India when they came to work the plantations in Malaya
You would have noticed Roti Canai (Malaysian name) = Roti Prata

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roti_canai

euphony
28-04-2011, 07:29 AM
cathy/AP/those using 1st link

you notice one of the lanes is closed exiting the CIQ, I suspect they're just about starting work to link to EDL. It's getting closer and closer now!

mallow
28-04-2011, 07:35 AM
Hi AP
Others have answered for you oreddy on the location of Kip Mart. It's in Tampoi Indah and off the Skudai Road, hence the confusion. Apologies for hopeless directions.
Kip Mart also sells beef and mutton bones if you are looking for an occasional treat for pet dogs.
You can quite quickly get used to teh si KOSONG - tea with evaporated milk and NO sugar. Another possibility is teh halia kosong [teh, ginger and susu sans sugar].
My friend Zai once famously made the remark that "without timun, nasi lemak is meaningless". Her nasi lemak was so very lemak it was oily with the santan, fragrant with pandan. It also had a marvellous sambal with plenty of ikan bilis n kacang, a slice of omelette, two fried fish and of course some generous slices of fresh timun. Sigh ....
Keep an eye out for exotica at the market e.g jambu susu, and if ever you see [I]buah roumenia[I] please buy me 5 kgs immediately ... this rare fruit we Eurasians make pickle with. Will gladly reimburse including petrol!

Grago
28-04-2011, 09:00 AM
Mallow I am just having a cup of teh tarik and reading this post, the mention of nasi leman has got me salivating, even the prata I've ordered doesn't feel so enticing all of a sudden.....

Hi AP
Others have answered for you oreddy on the location of Kip Mart. It's in Tampoi Indah and off the Skudai Road, hence the confusion. Apologies for hopeless directions.
Kip Mart also sells beef and mutton bones if you are looking for an occasional treat for pet dogs.
You can quite quickly get used to teh si KOSONG - tea with evaporated milk and NO sugar. Another possibility is teh halia kosong [teh, ginger and susu sans sugar].
My friend Zai once famously made the remark that "without timun, nasi lemak is meaningless". Her nasi lemak was so very lemak it was oily with the santan, fragrant with pandan. It also had a marvellous sambal with plenty of ikan bilis n kacang, a slice of omelette, two fried fish and of course some generous slices of fresh timun. Sigh ....
Keep an eye out for exotica at the market e.g jambu susu, and if ever you see [I]buah roumenia[I] please buy me 5 kgs immediately ... this rare fruit we Eurasians make pickle with. Will gladly reimburse including petrol!

mallow
28-04-2011, 11:01 AM
Mallow I am just having a cup of teh tarik and reading this post, the mention of nasi lemak has got me salivating, even the prata I've ordered doesn't feel so enticing all of a sudden.....
Lucky to be able to eat prata! I'm on a severe diet [just too fat] so all this delicious food talk is killing me.
I trust you know roumenia pickle? Still available fresh twice a year in Malacca. Buah rumia to some. Please alert me should you find it.
For some things e.g. dried prawns, the market behind the old Giant in Perling is cheaper. Very friendly place on weekend mornings, with more stalls set up on the road.
Be prepared for a huge number of food stalls in this Giant's car park during Ramadan. The Johor version of nasi padang is as good as the best. Miserably hot time of the year, but a limited time suffering is worth it.

Grago
28-04-2011, 11:27 AM
Ah Mallow, you've been enjoying your food..... the simple pleasures of life:), as to buah rumia pickle I may have eaten it BUT not know it's name:o Only available in Malacca, alamak, so far to go to get it:eek: Will let you know when I come across it. Maybe at the wet market in Tmn Sentosa.........
As they say "one has to suffer abit for something good":D I'm sure the Nasi Padang is worth the inconvienence of the weather!!!

Lucky to be able to eat prata! I'm on a severe diet [just too fat] so all this delicious food talk is killing me.
I trust you know roumenia pickle? Still available fresh twice a year in Malacca. Buah rumia to some. Please alert me should you find it.
For some things e.g. dried prawns, the market behind the old Giant in Perling is cheaper. Very friendly place on weekend mornings, with more stalls set up on the road.
Be prepared for a huge number of food stalls in this Giant's car park during Ramadan. The Johor version of nasi padang is as good as the best. Miserably hot time of the year, but a limited time suffering is worth it.

Avonup
28-04-2011, 12:19 PM
When you have paid the 1st 10% deposit for EL (thru' TT) and signed the S&P, normally how long does it take for them to post you the deposit reciept and copy of S&P. Thanks

Avonup
28-04-2011, 01:01 PM
Hi, are foreigners allowed to open a savings account in m'sia with or without m'sia loca address?

You need someone (malaysian ?? not sure) to recommend. For yourself, you can use singapore address.

avalon74
28-04-2011, 01:13 PM
Bro very easy to make a balcony. But quite hard to maintain it (whether you have maid or not)

Why?

Once you lay tiles.... You will be able to easily notice dust... And if not cleaned immediately the dust piles up and then it becomes harder to remove and finally the original sheen and shine is gone.

That is why my home at Setia Tropika no balcony/no tiles exposed to the elements of nature.

Its really a challenge to keep cleaning it.

Wife likes balcony..
Was thinking of laying rough surface dark coloured tiles so that the occasional rain can wash away the dust accumulated..
(Me is the lazy maid)
Will talk to contractor on sat before deciding..

avalon74
28-04-2011, 01:24 PM
Oic, how much do they charge for such work?

Think can cover by ard 4K.. will check with contractor weekend though grill will be another contractor who has yet to quote..
The complication is the additional door (if installed) where another gate may be required..
kiasi mentaility..

cathylmg
28-04-2011, 01:25 PM
Wife likes balcony..
Was thinking of laying rough surface dark coloured tiles so that the occasional rain can wash away the dust accumulated..
(Me is the lazy maid)
Will talk to contractor on sat before deciding..

Don't choose dark colour. I regreted chosing dark colour for my carpark. The rain cannot wash away the dust completely. Ended up I always cannot tahan everytime got to wash it myself with a broom. Even though, also don't feel clean at all.

avalon74
28-04-2011, 01:37 PM
Hi, are foreigners allowed to open a savings account in m'sia with or without m'sia loca address?

Opened a RHB loan acct & savings acct at same time.
They even gave a TESCO RHB debit card which ties to the savings acct.
All statements are currently sent to singapore address..

Cheers

avalon74
28-04-2011, 01:39 PM
Over the Easter weekend the exchange rate i secured was 241.2 consistently.

Other bros got it better? Where?

AP- Got 2.413 on 26/4 at Sun Plaza.. where is your money changer in bukit indah?

avalon74
28-04-2011, 01:58 PM
Don't choose dark colour. I regreted chosing dark colour for my carpark. The rain cannot wash away the dust completely. Ended up I always cannot tahan everytime got to wash it myself with a broom. Even though, also don't feel clean at all.

dark colour for me more difficult to notice how dirty it gets.. so can ignore the regular cleaning..
actually also interested in rough stone material.. like the open shower in Port dickson Avilon resort..
asn i said.. I am the lazy maid

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 02:35 PM
Alamak... ur money changer better than mine sia...


AP- Got 2.413 on 26/4 at Sun Plaza.. where is your money changer in bukit indah?

toyohon
28-04-2011, 02:39 PM
this forum like nusajaya is moving very fast! Palazio is very easy entry because of the DIBs and 10% 'discount' as downpayment. though the sheer number of units will be a challenge in time to come i fear. i just got news that the final phase is launched. yes am an owner.

Seems the 3rd phase prices had gone up 40% compared to the first.:eek:

echanbonfire01
28-04-2011, 03:09 PM
this forum like nusajaya is moving very fast! Palazio is very easy entry because of the DIBs and 10% 'discount' as downpayment. though the sheer number of units will be a challenge in time to come i fear. i just got news that the final phase is launched. yes am an owner.

me also owns a unit. actually i prefer to get one at bukit indah. I am looking also for bumi lots for apartment at bukit indah. Not sure whether still have or not.

Looking also at the 5 storey shops at bukit indah by sp setia. Intend to buy using my bumi but no capital at the moment. Do you think the shop unit can get good returns in terms of rental?

euphony
28-04-2011, 03:10 PM
Seems the 3rd phase prices had gone up 40% compared to the first.:eek:

i guess same excuse construction materials gone up. the incline is steep nonetheless. will go down this weekend to dig for more info.

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 05:10 PM
Noticed the condos from SP Setia coming up quite nicely bang in the middle of everything.

Also noticed Hotel Granada there on Setia Land i guess?

Granada by local developer?




Looking also at the 5 storey shops at bukit indah by sp setia. Intend to buy using my bumi but no capital at the moment. Do you think the shop unit can get good returns in terms of rental?

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 05:13 PM
Thanks euphony. Il take note of that. Did not notice it.

But i still believe EDL is a long way off.

One funny thing about the EDL is that its free for local use.

However if you wanna use it to travel to Spore then you gotta pay....:mad:


cathy/AP/those using 1st link

you notice one of the lanes is closed exiting the CIQ, I suspect they're just about starting work to link to EDL. It's getting closer and closer now!

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 05:20 PM
Thanks mallow. Been there before. Did not know that you were referring to the same location.

On one occassion i saw the head of a cow....whew.... Gross....

Yes i had got my corriander leaves there before. I remember that.

Not sure which stall sells Mee Rebus.

But yes lots of stalls there selling nasi lemaks in packets.

Lots of Beef there i noticed. Regarding the mutton i was not sure if it was fresh!

Teh Halia Kosong is not bad.... I need a lil sugar tho...

Sure il keep a look out for the exotic stuff you requested.




Hi AP
Others have answered for you oreddy on the location of Kip Mart. It's in Tampoi Indah and off the Skudai Road, hence the confusion. Apologies for hopeless directions.
Kip Mart also sells beef and mutton bones if you are looking for an occasional treat for pet dogs.
You can quite quickly get used to teh si KOSONG - tea with evaporated milk and NO sugar. Another possibility is teh halia kosong [teh, ginger and susu sans sugar].
My friend Zai once famously made the remark that "without timun, nasi lemak is meaningless". Her nasi lemak was so very lemak it was oily with the santan, fragrant with pandan. It also had a marvellous sambal with plenty of ikan bilis n kacang, a slice of omelette, two fried fish and of course some generous slices of fresh timun. Sigh ....
Keep an eye out for exotica at the market e.g jambu susu, and if ever you see [I]buah roumenia[I] please buy me 5 kgs immediately ... this rare fruit we Eurasians make pickle with. Will gladly reimburse including petrol!

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 05:24 PM
Hi Cathy.... Dark is better than light i think.... But if you ask me Cement Render is the best.... (You can wanna believe that i have no money since i am promoting cement render:D:D)

Actually if you use light shades of tile the thick layer of dust that will settle down is easily noticeable. In the long run causes discolouration of the tiles. Finally you will have to clean it twice a day. Not joking!! I still have this problem (Ofcourse not here at Setia Tropika)

Now if you use dark tiles the dust, dust marks are still visible.:):)

Either way you gotta sweep and mop outside twice a day.




Don't choose dark colour. I regreted chosing dark colour for my carpark. The rain cannot wash away the dust completely. Ended up I always cannot tahan everytime got to wash it myself with a broom. Even though, also don't feel clean at all.

contra
28-04-2011, 05:34 PM
I dun think so mate.

Tell you why. Chennai is a name that came into existence in the last couple of years.

The previous name that existed for more than a 100 years was Madras.

Surprisingly its hard to find prata in India although you do find paratha, rotis and stuff. Rojak also not indian food.

Maybe prata came from parota (ceylon parota)!! i dunno..

Dunno why the mamak shop sells it?

Hi AP,
I know you like debates. Ok one for the road - Wiki says that Chennai and Madras names origins around 16th century in same part of India. So is still valid roti canai origins from Chennai.
In fact when I was in Xian China and even parts of Beijing, I found prata type bread .
I guess we can argue like spaghetti origins but that will be for another thread. Night! :)

Analytical Professor
28-04-2011, 06:10 PM
Will have to agree with you that the name Chennai possibly originated around the 16th century.

Roti Canai from Chennai? Highly Debatable. Did a decent check....

Roti Canai comes closest to Ceylon Porotta or Kerala Porotta. I have eaten the latter 2 and they are still vastly different from Roti Canai.

Versions of Ceylon/Kerala Porotta may have been brought here to Malaysia by immigrant indians. Definitely not Roti Canai (From Chennai). The British brought the Indian labourers to Malaysia only after the 18th Century at which time the name Chennai was hardly used.

Having said that Roti Canai is hard to find in India. Canai has more than one meaning.


Hi AP,
I know you like debates. Ok one for the road - Wiki says that Chennai and Madras names origins around 16th century in same part of India. So is still valid roti canai origins from Chennai.
In fact when I was in Xian China and even parts of Beijing, I found prata type bread .
I guess we can argue like spaghetti origins but that will be for another thread. Night! :)

wuqi256
28-04-2011, 06:45 PM
Noticed the condos from SP Setia coming up quite nicely bang in the middle of everything.

Also noticed Hotel Granada there on Setia Land i guess?

Granada by local developer?

Setia seems to be doing pretty well recently, their new clusters are going to be launched at about 800k. Contrast this to the same clusters they launched back a few years ago in D'Grande where it was only going for like 400k.

Car porch sometimes is a pain to take care of, i have a pretty fastidious neighbour who makes sure to wash her car outside of her porch, etc so as to keep it clean and they clean it twice a week.

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 01:29 AM
My car pouch tile is dark grey in colour. It looks like always has a layer of dust on top. Worst after raining the water marks are highly visible. Ended up I keep washing and washing....tiring! :(

I think something in between is better. Not too light, not too dark. Best like homogenous tiles. Can't see the difference between dust and tiles. Those that does not render the dust visible?



Hi Cathy.... Dark is better than light i think.... But if you ask me Cement Render is the best.... (You can wanna believe that i have no money since i am promoting cement render:D:D)

Actually if you use light shades of tile the thick layer of dust that will settle down is easily noticeable. In the long run causes discolouration of the tiles. Finally you will have to clean it twice a day. Not joking!! I still have this problem (Ofcourse not here at Setia Tropika)

Now if you use dark tiles the dust, dust marks are still visible.:):)

Either way you gotta sweep and mop outside twice a day.

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 01:38 AM
Hi Cathy.... Dark is better than light i think.... But if you ask me Cement Render is the best.... (You can wanna believe that i have no money since i am promoting cement render:D:D).....



At the beginning it looks ok. Even look classic if you add in specially designed tiles sparingly. But No. Cement Render is no good. As time goes by, cement will crack, and the longer it is, the more cracks you'll get. Long-term wise, not a good option. Very ugly.

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 02:40 AM
Alamak!! Why say no good leh?

I talking from experience. Really.

All my homes from birth till today got places where cement render exists and places where we have laid tiles. In fact i just changed the tiled areas 4 years ago but have not touched the cemented areas.

The tiled areas are the worst. They tend to become brownish (cause of layers of dust) and really ugly that you gotta keep cleaning it all the time.

The cement render at my last home (from 1987-now) that is 24 years and still going strong.... has lasted very well. Easy on maintenance. No degeneration either!

In fact the entire space above my kitchen, bedrooms and living room (which is about 2000 sq ft) is cemented. No problems nor ugly.

Ofcourse one thing you gotta remember with cement you gotta choose between smooth and rough finish.

The rough finish is better (though not easier to walk).

The smooth finish is dangerous.

Give you a simple example.... Look at road pavements in Spore.... Long term wise... Really no problem. Now imagine if you had tiled them?


At the beginning it looks ok. Even look classic if you add in specially designed tiles sparingly. But No. Cement Render is no good. As time goes by, cement will crack, and the longer it is, the more cracks you'll get. Long-term wise, not a good option. Very ugly.

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 02:41 AM
Using the high pressured pump?


My car pouch tile is dark grey in colour. It looks like always has a layer of dust on top. Worst after raining the water marks are highly visible. Ended up I keep washing and washing....tiring! :(

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 03:08 AM
The place you have mentioned is indoor if I'm not wrong. I am talking about outdoor carpouch? Btw, did your notice the town councils keep replacing the cement pavements with new ones? I thought its a waste of taxpayer's money. We also toyed with the idea of having our carpouch cement rendered, but then my hubby decided against it after he see the cracks on some of his customer's carpourch. Also if you visit the ST's terrace show houses, some of the cement rendered car pouch have began to crack. Go take a look.



Alamak!! Why say no good leh?

I talking from experience. Really.

All my homes from birth till today got places where cement render exists and places where we have laid tiles. In fact i just changed the tiled areas 4 years ago but have not touched the cemented areas.

The tiled areas are the worst. They tend to become brownish (cause of layers of dust) and really ugly that you gotta keep cleaning it all the time.

The cement render at my last home (from 1987-now) that is 24 years and still going strong.... has lasted very well. Easy on maintenance. No degeneration either!

In fact the entire space above my kitchen, bedrooms and living room (which is about 2000 sq ft) is cemented. No problems nor ugly.

Ofcourse one thing you gotta remember with cement you gotta choose between smooth and rough finish.

The rough finish is better (though not easier to walk).

The smooth finish is dangerous.

Give you a simple example.... Look at road pavements in Spore.... Long term wise... Really no problem. Now imagine if you had tiled them?

euphony
29-04-2011, 03:09 AM
My car pouch tile is dark grey in colour. It looks like always has a layer of dust on top. Worst after raining the water marks are highly visible. Ended up I keep washing and washing....tiring! :(

I think something in between is better. Not too light, not too dark. Best like homogenous tiles. Can't see the difference between dust and tiles. Those that does not render the dust visible?

reminds me of the rims for my car, I was also deciding between different shades so as to hide the brake dust because it builds up way too fast and an eye sore. my suggestion occupy the car porch space with car or those toy cars and lotsa plants where space allows to distract the eyes away from the dirt.

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 03:31 AM
Aiyo... Cathy... Inside the house how to have cement ? Cannot lah

I talking about outside.

I live in Sengkang and they have not replaced the cement pavements here for the last 10 years. Is that not good enough? Even my void deck area they have not done any changes in the last 10 years. That is fantastic i would say.

Compare the high density of traffic on the pavements and void deck and i dun think its a waste of tax payers money. I think its money judiciously utilized.

Now the cracks that you have mentioned can occur for several reasons:
1) Shifting soil underneath
2) Area under cement render not compressed and packed tightly
3) Bad workmanship

The list goes on....

Now compared with cracks in cement render, popping up of tiles is worse isnt it?

Another thing i wanna share is that in the last 24 years my house (Touch wood) has no structural cracks, leakages, popping up of tiles, leaking pipes or cracks in cement render. (Old style construction techniques!)


The place you have mentioned is indoor if I'm not wrong. I am talking about outdoor carpouch? Btw, did your notice the town councils keep replacing the cement pavements with new ones? I thought its a waste of taxpayer's money. We also toyed with the idea of having our carpouch cement rendered, but then my hubby decided against it after he see the cracks on some of his customer's carpourch. Also if you visit the ST's terrace show houses, some of the cement rendered car pouch have began to crack. Go take a look.

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 03:37 AM
Good idea!


my suggestion occupy the car porch space with car or those toy cars and lotsa plants where space allows to distract the eyes away from the dirt.

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 04:06 AM
Aiyo... Cathy... Inside the house how to have cement ? Cannot lah



Caaaaan...! The house I grew up in, 1 living room, 1 bedroom rented ones in Henderson Road. All cement rendered from the wall to the floor to the toilet. Painted with chemicals to prolong its lifespan also. After some time all cracked and holes on the floor.....LOL!

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 04:10 AM
Ah ha... That is quality workmanship Spore Style.




Caaaaan...! The house I grew up in, 1 living room, 1 bedroom rented ones in Henderson Road. All cement rendered from the wall to the floor to the toilet. Painted with chemicals to prolong its lifespan also. After some time all cracked and holes on the floor.....LOL!

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 04:17 AM
From birth till now i moved homes 3 times. All my homes nice finish (inside tiles/outside mix of cement/tiles). Till today no problem leh like the ones we face in Spore:
1) No leakage
2) No roof cracks/leaks/seepage
3) No leakage from the copper pipes
4) No cracks. Even aircracks bare minimum
5) No popping up of tiles
6) No spalling concrete
7) All stainless steel taps have lasted me for years. No corrossion of stainless steel/no need to repair/replace.
8) Spore my taps need to replace already (the ones provided by hdb).
9) Spore car parks floor leaks. Why? Toilet leaks why?


All cement rendered from the wall to the floor to the toilet. Painted with chemicals to prolong its lifespan also. After some time all cracked and holes on the floor.....LOL!

2bfree2b
29-04-2011, 04:34 AM
Dear all, I am new in this forum. After following this thread for a period of time, I too am interested in moving in to JB. Been to HH to see the showflats for Fairway & Horizon Residences but havent bought any cos the completion dates are quite distant. Is it advisable to buy off the open market for the completed projects? Am only interested in condo developements becos I will be staying there. The upkeep of a landed property is too much for me. Thanks in advance for the advice.

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 04:39 AM
Wow! You are really damn lucky manz!

I moved to HDB in Simei later and after sometime the tiles changed colour from bluish white to brownish yellow. The toilet sink support bracket by hdb rusted and was about to give way. The toilet ceiling cement flakeds off. Now my house also, the toilet pipes and ceilings turns mouldy and have to be painted with anti-fungus paint every 2 years. Luckily the marble flooring didn't give me any headache. But the study room buildin cabinet drop off the wall due to rain sippage years before that left water trapped behind it. Not to mention my plastered wall cracked from the wall to the floor.

Why are you so lucky? Or maybe you are not the one who does the work. Or maybe you happen to move house fast enough. LOL! :D



From birth till now i moved homes 3 times. All my homes nice finish (inside tiles/outside mix of cement/tiles). Till today no problem leh like the ones we face in Spore:
1) No leakage
2) No roof cracks/leaks/seepage
3) No leakage from the copper pipes
4) No cracks. Even aircracks bare minimum
5) No popping up of tiles
6) No spalling concrete
7) All stainless steel taps have lasted me for years. No corrossion of stainless steel/no need to repair/replace.
8) Spore my taps need to replace already (the ones provided by hdb).
9) Spore car parks floor leaks. Why? Toilet leaks why?

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 05:12 AM
Ok the first home before i was born to 1977

The second home 1977-1987

The third home 1987-present.

Lucky yes. Why? Cause these homes are not in Spore. So spore hdb style methods of construction dun apply. He he...

No mould, no Fungus, no leakage, nothing rusts, no spalling concrete, no plaster falling off, superior quality of paints and varnishes. My wife is pure Singaporean. She has seen my home. She is surprised at the quality of workmanship overseas.

The copper pipes 23 + years still fine (Touch wood)

I got 2 overhead tanks direct on top of my roof. Have not maintained it in the last 23 years and does not leak either.

Not a single wall tile or floor tile has popped out.

No windows falling off either.

Now compare that with our HDB style construction!!

Here my taps corrode/toilet cistern breaks down now and then. My toilet leaks.... my neighbour comes up and requests to repair.... Toilet ceiling slightly mouldy....Hiya.... Spore .... sucks big time...




Wow! You are really damn lucky manz!

I moved to HDB in Simei later and after sometime the tiles changed colour from bluish white to brownish yellow. The toilet sink support bracket by hdb rusted and was about to give way. The toilet ceiling cement flakeds off. Now my house also, the toilet pipes and ceilings turns mouldy and have to be painted with anti-fungus paint every 2 years. Luckily the marble flooring didn't give me any headache. But the study room buildin cabinet drop off the wall due to rain sippage years before that left water trapped behind it. Not to mention my plastered wall cracked from the wall to the floor.

Why are you so lucky? Or maybe you are not the one who does the work. Or maybe you happen to move house fast enough. LOL! :D


From birth till now i moved homes 3 times. All my homes nice finish (inside tiles/outside mix of cement/tiles). Till today no problem leh like the ones we face in Spore:
1) No leakage
2) No roof cracks/leaks/seepage
3) No leakage from the copper pipes
4) No cracks. Even aircracks bare minimum
5) No popping up of tiles
6) No spalling concrete
7) All stainless steel taps have lasted me for years. No corrossion of stainless steel/no need to repair/replace.
8) Spore my taps need to replace already (the ones provided by hdb).
9) Spore car parks floor leaks. Why? Toilet leaks why?

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 05:31 AM
I stayed at Henderson Road for about 6 months. I know the place reasonably well...

My goodness.... fights/screaming/drugs/murders/loan sharks.....

My wife hated me for forcing her to stay there for 6 months while we waited for our HDB in Sengkang.

What to do? Me no money la... So no choice i managed to get one HDB from a friend who had rented it from HDB.

But the good thing about Henderson was... quite central. So easy to go ORchard/nightspots/so many markets around for makan also




Caaaaan...! The house I grew up in, 1 living room, 1 bedroom rented ones in Henderson Road. All cement rendered from the wall to the floor to the toilet. Painted with chemicals to prolong its lifespan also. After some time all cracked and holes on the floor.....LOL!

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 06:19 AM
Yalor. Got molested during my secondary school days. Mental patients walking around. One of my neighbour commited suicide. Gambling dens at home. All the complicated people lah. I remember got one year all the lifts got burned during election time. Then all replaced by brand new ones. :D

But some neighbours really good. They look out for each others. They make cakes, kuehs, lapis and whatever before festive seasons and share with you. Hope that you buy some from them. :D My block was in between the 2 markets so very convenient.



I stayed at Henderson Road for about 6 months. I know the place reasonably well...

My goodness.... fights/screaming/drugs/murders/loan sharks.....

My wife hated me for forcing her to stay there for 6 months while we waited for our HDB in Sengkang.

What to do? Me no money la... So no choice i managed to get one HDB from a friend who had rented it from HDB.

But the good thing about Henderson was... quite central. So easy to go ORchard/nightspots/so many markets around for makan also

mika14
29-04-2011, 06:38 AM
Now assuming someones wife takes the bus to Spore from Bukit Indah there is the other issue of getting from the Taman you are staying in to the Bukit Indah Causeway bus terminal.

Now this need not just apply to NJ and Bukit Indah. Its also applicable to Kempas Utama, Setia Tropika, Mont Callista and so many other developments.

And this is one of the real issues i had mentioned earlier. Though i know several forummers may ride roughshod over me by suggesting that you can take a taxi.

Not everytime people can afford to take a taxi.

And what about those times when you wanna go to the mini mart or provisiion store?

Its still quite a distance that is definitely not walkable.

Maybe u can ride a small cub bike?

LeMans2011
29-04-2011, 07:12 AM
Dear all, I am new in this forum. After following this thread for a period of time, I too am interested in moving in to JB. Been to HH to see the showflats for Fairway & Horizon Residences but havent bought any cos the completion dates are quite distant. Is it advisable to buy off the open market for the completed projects? Am only interested in condo developements becos I will be staying there. The upkeep of a landed property is too much for me. Thanks in advance for the advice.

Always remember to purchase only property with Certificate of Fitness for Occupation (CFO) otherwise title cannot be transferred

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 07:50 AM
Bros and sis here, my friend is looking for a child phyciatrist(don't know how to spell), her child is giving a lot of problems in school but KK have to wait very long queue. She suspect he might have ADHD. Outside private very expensive. Kindly post here is you have any contact please. Thank you in advance.

ginfreely
29-04-2011, 07:51 AM
Yalor. Got molested during my secondary school days. Mental patients walking around. One of my neighbour commited suicide. Gambling dens at home. All the complicated people lah. I remember got one year all the lifts got burned during election time. Then all replaced by brand new ones. :D

But some neighbours really good. They look out for each others. They make cakes, kuehs, lapis and whatever before festive seasons and share with you. Hope that you buy some from them. :D My block was in between the 2 markets so very convenient.

OMG, poor Cathy sis, did the police catch the molester?

ginfreely
29-04-2011, 08:00 AM
me also owns a unit. actually i prefer to get one at bukit indah. I am looking also for bumi lots for apartment at bukit indah. Not sure whether still have or not.

Looking also at the 5 storey shops at bukit indah by sp setia. Intend to buy using my bumi but no capital at the moment. Do you think the shop unit can get good returns in terms of rental?

5 storey shops? do they come with lift?

ginfreely
29-04-2011, 08:08 AM
Mustafa is my first choice when it comes to indian cooking ... never failed to find corriander or any other essential ingredients

looking forward now to the new Mydin supermarket to be opened at Anjung near EL/LH ... hopefully they'll also provide the same convenience like Mustafa

Indian cooking is foreign to me but sure looks like they've everything from spices to veg to basmati rice...

Mydin supermarket, may be they can open a Japanese supermarket since the LH land bought by Japanese investor...

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 08:11 AM
No leh. I never report police cos I was rushing for my O level exam. He came from behind and touch my backside. But I was running late so let him off.


OMG, poor Cathy sis, did the police catch the molester?

ginfreely
29-04-2011, 08:18 AM
No leh. I never report police cos I was rushing for my O level exam. He came from behind and touch my backside. But I was running late so let him off.

eeks, such sicko around, hope your exam was not affected..

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 08:28 AM
eeks, such sicko around, hope your exam was not affected..

I grew up in this kind of place with complicated people also good lah. Nowadays people so spoilt little bit little bit cannot take it too stressed! Complain this complain that....I've been through a lot worse.

euphony
29-04-2011, 08:51 AM
Dear all, I am new in this forum. After following this thread for a period of time, I too am interested in moving in to JB. Been to HH to see the showflats for Fairway & Horizon Residences but havent bought any cos the completion dates are quite distant. Is it advisable to buy off the open market for the completed projects? Am only interested in condo developements becos I will be staying there. The upkeep of a landed property is too much for me. Thanks in advance for the advice.

if looking near HH vicinity. only sky exec by setia and ujana by uem is the closest to completion. even that is promised at 2012 to 13. Best condo developments currently are molek pines and straits view for now which are closer to 1st link are already built that's where you want to be because its on everyone's wishlist. You don't want to go to one which is not exclusive enough (esp for own stay) and you'll get undesirable neighbors or degrading exterior facades because units don't pay up the maintenance etc.

I suggest getting the smallest terrace you can find. That's how I end up with bayou water village at leisure farm. Everything outside even the garden is maintained by the estates. Easy peasy. The built up is perfect for me well and my mum with perhaps an occasional visitor. Actually the built up is not exactly anywhere bigger than an equivalent 3 bedroom apartment. And the good thing is usually developments like these are comparatively low density (guess you should know since you're in HH) and you don't have to share car park with people denting your car doors etc. I guess buy apartments/condo units for rental returns especially areas targeting expats or non-local locals e.g. KLians sent to JB for work and don't bring their family down etc.

Anywayz hope you'll find your dream home in time to come!

Skippy
29-04-2011, 09:13 AM
Bros and sis here, my friend is looking for a child phyciatrist(don't know how to spell), her child is giving a lot of problems in school but KK have to wait very long queue. She suspect he might have ADHD. Outside private very expensive. Kindly post here is you have any contact please. Thank you in advance.

HI Cathy,

Not sure this help but may ask your friend to give a call and try:
Child Guidance Clinic (CGC)
Health Promotion Board Building
3 Second Hospital Ave #03-01
Singapore 168937
Tel: 6435-3878/9

Cheers.

cathylmg
29-04-2011, 09:31 AM
Thanks. Was thinking of asking for JB ones. I wonder whether can save some money or not for her. Private ones cost $170 per visit. Anyway thanks.


HI Cathy,

Not sure this help but may ask your friend to give a call and try:
Child Guidance Clinic (CGC)
Health Promotion Board Building
3 Second Hospital Ave #03-01
Singapore 168937
Tel: 6435-3878/9

Cheers.

2bfree2b
29-04-2011, 09:47 AM
if looking near HH vicinity. only sky exec by setia and ujana by uem is the closest to completion. even that is promised at 2012 to 13. Best condo developments currently are molek pines and straits view for now which are closer to 1st link are already built that's where you want to be because its on everyone's wishlist. You don't want to go to one which is not exclusive enough (esp for own stay) and you'll get undesirable neighbors or degrading exterior facades because units don't pay up the maintenance etc.

I suggest getting the smallest terrace you can find. That's how I end up with bayou water village at leisure farm. Everything outside even the garden is maintained by the estates. Easy peasy. The built up is perfect for me well and my mum with perhaps an occasional visitor. Actually the built up is not exactly anywhere bigger than an equivalent 3 bedroom apartment. And the good thing is usually developments like these are comparatively low density (guess you should know since you're in HH) and you don't have to share car park with people denting your car doors etc. I guess buy apartments/condo units for rental returns especially areas targeting expats or non-local locals e.g. KLians sent to JB for work and don't bring their family down etc.

Anywayz hope you'll find your dream home in time to come!

Thanks Euphony, I have heard abt Straits View. It was said to be one of the best in JB. Guess I shld go & do some more research on it. If the built up is relatively same as a 3 bedroom apartment, then shld be ok for me. I will check out bayou water village too. Thanks.

Analytical Professor
29-04-2011, 12:53 PM
Yeah why do they need 5 storey shops?

If no lifts die sia....


5 storey shops? do they come with lift?

echanbonfire01
29-04-2011, 03:53 PM
5 storey shops? do they come with lift?

its not a 5storey shop but a 5 storey building with shop lot. I think should/must have lift.

euphony
29-04-2011, 04:42 PM
managed to dig out recent video tour of iskandar projects on youtube in various state of finish. enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYwEjv8YFig

tansi
29-04-2011, 05:13 PM
Any suggestion where to buy an outdoor playground swing in JB or IM? I googled and found 2 shops., but one sells only rubber safety tiles for playground and another no longer exist.

mallow
30-04-2011, 06:47 AM
Any suggestion where to buy an outdoor playground swing in JB or IM? I googled and found 2 shops., but one sells only rubber safety tiles for playground and another no longer exist.

Although I have not been in to check prices and quality, there is a shop along Jalan Tampoi, keep left past Giant and Indian temple. It has a variety of painted metal swings & seesaws. If you do go, please let us know if they are of good quality and reasonably priced?

fairies
30-04-2011, 10:34 AM
if looking near HH vicinity. only sky exec by setia and ujana by uem is the closest to completion. even that is promised at 2012 to 13. Best condo developments currently are molek pines and straits view for now which are closer to 1st link are already built that's where you want to be because its on everyone's wishlist. You don't want to go to one which is not exclusive enough (esp for own stay) and you'll get undesirable neighbors or degrading exterior facades because units don't pay up the maintenance etc.

I suggest getting the smallest terrace you can find. That's how I end up with bayou water village at leisure farm. Everything outside even the garden is maintained by the estates. Easy peasy. The built up is perfect for me well and my mum with perhaps an occasional visitor. Actually the built up is not exactly anywhere bigger than an equivalent 3 bedroom apartment. And the good thing is usually developments like these are comparatively low density (guess you should know since you're in HH) and you don't have to share car park with people denting your car doors etc. I guess buy apartments/condo units for rental returns especially areas targeting expats or non-local locals e.g. KLians sent to JB for work and don't bring their family down etc.

Anywayz hope you'll find your dream home in time to come!
What about KSLcity? Anyone has info about the residences/condominium section of the project? Price range?
I only saw their website, and by the look of the floorplans quite impressive. Especially the Sky Villas. Wow! Like bungalows, complete with private swimming pool & private lifts. Just imagine, a 7000 sqf high rise apartment?!
The only set back, at least for me, is the roads around the area and the traffic

tansi
30-04-2011, 11:39 AM
Although I have not been in to check prices and quality, there is a shop along Jalan Tampoi, keep left past Giant and Indian temple. It has a variety of painted metal swings & seesaws. If you do go, please let us know if they are of good quality and reasonably priced?

I happened to check out the shop last Friday on the way back across the Causeway. The shop is run by an old couple. It has a variety of swings, but I think they are built for lover birds sitting next to each other, or sitting on 2 seats facing each other. I am looking for a simple single seat for a kid. I found Saturday a shop at 151 Changi Road. It sells the swing I like, but sporting it is a problem. Prefer to sind in Johor.

euphony
30-04-2011, 11:58 AM
What about KSLcity? Anyone has info about the residences/condominium section of the project? Price range?
I only saw their website, and by the look of the floorplans quite impressive. Especially the Sky Villas. Wow! Like bungalows, complete with private swimming pool & private lifts. Just imagine, a 7000 sqf high rise apartment?!
The only set back, at least for me, is the roads around the area and the traffic

1 word. Pricey!

I think its one of the most if not the most expensive developments in JB. Plus is its very close to 1st link and you go downstairs for food and groceries (tescos). Minuses include the traffic (surrounding are all small roads), no greenery of any sort. Not sure whether GRR scheme also applies to the larger units.

avalon74
02-05-2011, 01:59 AM
AP,
Your inbox is full..

2bfree2b
02-05-2011, 05:39 AM
1 word. Pricey!

I think its one of the most if not the most expensive developments in JB. Plus is its very close to 1st link and you go downstairs for food and groceries (tescos). Minuses include the traffic (surrounding are all small roads), no greenery of any sort. Not sure whether GRR scheme also applies to the larger units.

Pardon me, but wat is GRR scheme? Actually, I find that this location quite good becos it is quite near to CIQ. I dont mind staying there. But still abit skeptical abt this part of JB city. It seems that ksl city condo comes with a 4 tier security. Sounds impressive. It might be an alternative for me since most of the condo developments in Nusajaya will be only completed in a few years.....And most of it are booked.

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 05:53 AM
Logging in from blissful HCMC.

Thanks mate avalon. I will clear it now.

Cheers
:):):)


AP,
Your inbox is full..

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 06:10 AM
Im on a diet too.

Doing a bit of the cross trainer, walking and eating less food (Sorry should be trying to eat less food).

Yet the kilos are piling on and moving into the obesse range.

Help!!!:(:(:(:(:(


Lucky to be able to eat prata! I'm on a severe diet [just too fat] so all this delicious food talk is killing me.
I trust you know roumenia pickle? Still available fresh twice a year in Malacca. Buah rumia to some. Please alert me should you find it.
For some things e.g. dried prawns, the market behind the old Giant in Perling is cheaper. Very friendly place on weekend mornings, with more stalls set up on the road.
Be prepared for a huge number of food stalls in this Giant's car park during Ramadan. The Johor version of nasi padang is as good as the best. Miserably hot time of the year, but a limited time suffering is worth it.

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 07:33 AM
Any good GP in JB will be able to make referral to a child psychiatrist.

You can try Klinik Neo and Lim at Taman Angerrik or Polyclinik Anggerik. The doctors here are reasonably good and should be able to make decent referrals.

Also at Regency/columbia asia they should be able to refer.

My opinion regarding all child related issues is to visit KK. They have the best expertise in the region. I have been there a couple of times (using subsidy) and the care was not bad.

The only issue is the wait time.

My friend from India visited a psychiatrist there.

Charges as follows:

1) Consultation with a Super Specialist every 3 weeks S$ 18
2) Medications for 3 weeks buy outside at Pharmacy S$ 3.5

My friend recovered after 2 months of treatment but is on medication for another 6 months at lower doses.
Alas that is India and we are pretty far from there










Do they have specialistfor child pshyciatrist(don't know how to spell lah)?

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 07:34 AM
Grago thanks for the tip off on Fresh Toddy.

Bro just as much as i love it.... i wont be able to find it unless you are able to help me find the place.

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 07:36 AM
Best go KK. Initial wait longer but reasonably flexible once you have a foot in the door in terms of appointment and schedule.


Bros and sis here, my friend is looking for a child phyciatrist(don't know how to spell), her child is giving a lot of problems in school but KK have to wait very long queue. She suspect he might have ADHD. Outside private very expensive. Kindly post here is you have any contact please. Thank you in advance.

euphony
02-05-2011, 09:04 AM
Thanks Euphony, I have heard abt Straits View. It was said to be one of the best in JB. Guess I shld go & do some more research on it. If the built up is relatively same as a 3 bedroom apartment, then shld be ok for me. I will check out bayou water village too. Thanks.

hi 2b, for bayou water village I hear from the sales rep all the remaining units are booked up. They still have a few units left but this will come with ID package and they will charge for it. so it depends on your needs I guess. The interior usable built up is 1477sq ft. I think people will say small! I say just nice haha.

euphony
02-05-2011, 09:10 AM
Pardon me, but wat is GRR scheme? Actually, I find that this location quite good becos it is quite near to CIQ. I dont mind staying there. But still abit skeptical abt this part of JB city. It seems that ksl city condo comes with a 4 tier security. Sounds impressive. It might be an alternative for me since most of the condo developments in Nusajaya will be only completed in a few years.....And most of it are booked.

this is a guaranteed rental return. meaning you buy a studio unit for example, you lease it to KSL, they will give you returns of about 1.2-6k/month (if I don't remember wrongly) for 3 years. You can only shift in after that. Its expensive comparatively according to psf people say they already added in the GRR they're giving you into the asking price. sigh, these days its crazy everywhere we go and it is like everything is booked up.

avalon74
02-05-2011, 09:50 AM
AP,
What is HCMC?

avalon74
02-05-2011, 09:54 AM
Anyone has contacts for galvanized steel racks for storage purpose..

Previously bot them from thianlee but is there any local eqivalent?
http://www.thianlee.com.sg/pro.htm

Thx

euphony
02-05-2011, 10:02 AM
AP,
What is HCMC?

ho chi minh city should be.

2bfree2b
02-05-2011, 10:13 AM
hi 2b, for bayou water village I hear from the sales rep all the remaining units are booked up. They still have a few units left but this will come with ID package and they will charge for it. so it depends on your needs I guess. The interior usable built up is 1477sq ft. I think people will say small! I say just nice haha.

1477 sqf is indeed just nice.

cathylmg
02-05-2011, 01:51 PM
Im on a diet too.

Doing a bit of the cross trainer, walking and eating less food.

Yet the kilos are piling on and moving into the obesse range.

Help!!!:(:(:(:(:(

Your stairscase is a very good exercise equipment. Will go back to it after I move. Am also putting on weight now. You just need 1 step up, 1 step down, then exchange leg. Keep repeating. Do it with good music. Talk to the children at the same time. Time pass very fast. Fun too!

cathylmg
02-05-2011, 01:57 PM
Anyone has contacts for galvanized steel racks for storage purpose..

Previously bot them from thianlee but is there any local eqivalent?
http://www.thianlee.com.sg/pro.htm

Thx

I'm dismantling mine to move in to JB together with the rest.

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 02:50 PM
The racks look good sia.

For what ah?



Anyone has contacts for galvanized steel racks for storage purpose..

Previously bot them from thianlee but is there any local eqivalent?
http://www.thianlee.com.sg/pro.htm

Thx

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 02:57 PM
Actually difficult to reduce food in take as well. How do you do it? My will power not that strong!

Feel hungry like crazy.

How to lose weight like that?

I am doing the cross trainer at home on days that i can manage to find time. First thought that distance was important now realised distance, time and intensity are important.

Hiya.....

My fat bod needs to lose mass....


Your stairscase is a very good exercise equipment. Will go back to it after I move. Am also putting on weight now. You just need 1 step up, 1 step down, then exchange leg. Keep repeating. Do it with good music. Talk to the children at the same time. Time pass very fast. Fun too!

euphony
02-05-2011, 03:11 PM
Actually difficult to reduce food in take as well. How do you do it? My will power not that strong!

Feel hungry like crazy.

How to lose weight like that?

I am doing the cross trainer at home on days that i can manage to find time. First thought that distance was important now realised distance, time and intensity are important.

Hiya.....

My fat bod needs to lose mass....

actually AP u might be interested to try this: chew slowly n eat slower. Body is wired to feel full only ~ 20 minutes after the stomach has reached capacity. If you take you time, you'll feel full earlier and corresponding reduce intake.

euphony
02-05-2011, 03:16 PM
on a separate note, do any of u have lobang for nice knock off designer furniture in JB? I am looking for the barcelona chair and verner pantoon S chair. I found a KL company on the net with branches only in KL...

Narmi
02-05-2011, 04:51 PM
Dear forummers I will be taking the plunge in getting an abode =) in jb. Nd help in pointing me in the best way to remit the 10% deposit. Any plce in spore that can give the best rate to remit? Isit safe n reliable? Or isit beter to change and physically deposit into the developer account? Any advise is very much appreciated .

mallow
02-05-2011, 05:51 PM
Your stairscase is a very good exercise equipment. Will go back to it after I move. Am also putting on weight now. You just need 1 step up, 1 step down, then exchange leg. Keep repeating. Do it with good music. Talk to the children at the same time. Time pass very fast. Fun too!

PLEASE check with a qualified doc on this: everyone 25 years ago took the stairs for the exercise value, and today most of them have terrible problems with their knees. One girlfriend, and the most diligent of us all in taking the stairs even tho it was 16 storeys up and down sometimes, is walking with great difficulty now, at 62. No justice in this.

Simple formula on weight loss: NO sugar, very low carbs [yes, that means almost no rice/bread/noodles/prata], daily moderate exercise [45 mins of walking], LOTS of green veg [preferably raw like timun and lettuce], plenty of water, less sweet fruit eg papaya, stop snacking on rubbish [pisang goreng, chocolates, karna, epok-epok etc], enough sleep.
Don't you know all this already??
If you do all that, is life still worth living???

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 06:20 PM
Thanks for the nice write up. Yes its a damn simple formula.

But then is life really worth it after all this?

BTW u forgot to add doses of liquor that just adds that lil bit of xtra spice to life.:D:D



Simple formula on weight loss: NO sugar, very low carbs [yes, that means almost no rice/bread/noodles/prata], daily moderate exercise [45 mins of walking], LOTS of green veg [preferably raw like timun and lettuce], plenty of water, less sweet fruit eg papaya, stop snacking on rubbish [pisang goreng, chocolates, karna, epok-epok etc], enough sleep.
Don't you know all this already??
If you do all that, is life still worth living???

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 06:22 PM
Knee replacement surgery??

I used to occassionally do 17 floors.

Yes a lil bit of discomfort in the knees. Doc said no jogging/tennis/badminton.

Ended up listening to the doc and piling on the kilos.

So now bought a cross trainer. Does not hurt the knees at all. But not sure what research says on that score?


PLEASE check with a qualified doc on this: everyone 25 years ago took the stairs for the exercise value, and today most of them have terrible problems with their knees. One girlfriend, and the most diligent of us all in taking the stairs even tho it was 16 storeys up and down sometimes, is walking with great difficulty now, at 62.

Analytical Professor
02-05-2011, 06:41 PM
Beware of JB 'syringe robber'
AsiaOne Mon, May 02, 2011

THE old AIDS stunt is back as robbers in Johor Bahru, Malaysia, attempt to rob Singaporeans.

A Stomp contributor, known only as Tommi, said that a man approached him with a syringe and demanded money from him at a Johor Bahru petrol kiosk earlier today (May 2).

The small-built man, who was approximately 40 years old, told Tommi that he was infected with AIDS, and that the syringe was filled with his blood. He threatened to jab Tommi with the syringe if the latter did not give in to his demands.

Tommi's friend, who had encountered the same robber, handed over 100 ringgit ($41) to the robber when he fell victim to the man.

The Stomp contributor was approached by the man when he got into his car and was about to close the door. The man repeated his threats with the syringe, but before he could proceed further, Tommi slammed his door against the man's head and kicked him, before shutting his car door shut. Tommi also sounded his horn to attract attention.

The robber stood up and walked off calmly, and Tommi escaped unharmed.

Similar robberies involving syringe-wielding men targetting Singaporeans visiting Johor Bahru had occurred in the past.

cathylmg
03-05-2011, 01:13 AM
I've been doing this since 20 something. No problem for me. Even though with children and couldn't take time off to workout, I improvise and do it on staircase outside my flat. One thing you have to get a nice pair of shoe for exercise. I stopped to do this 2 year ago, after my eye operation which doctor had advice me not to exercise. Weight have been going north eversince. I think I'll go back to doing this after I move house.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4equuONDfks&feature=related



Actually difficult to reduce food in take as well. How do you do it? My will power not that strong!

Feel hungry like crazy.

How to lose weight like that?

I am doing the cross trainer at home on days that i can manage to find time. First thought that distance was important now realised distance, time and intensity are important.

Hiya.....

My fat bod needs to lose mass....

cathylmg
03-05-2011, 01:27 AM
Anyone has contacts for galvanized steel racks for storage purpose..

Previously bot them from thianlee but is there any local eqivalent?
http://www.thianlee.com.sg/pro.htm

Thx

I remember the hardware shop at Setia Tropika's Livistonia square sells them. You make the measurements. They will make it and send it to you. The shop is the one which faces the road that leads to Setia's sale office. Im not familiar with Nusajaya's side so no comment on that.

cathylmg
03-05-2011, 01:44 AM
Pardon me, but wat is GRR scheme? Actually, I find that this location quite good becos it is quite near to CIQ. I dont mind staying there. But still abit skeptical abt this part of JB city. It seems that ksl city condo comes with a 4 tier security. Sounds impressive. It might be an alternative for me since most of the condo developments in Nusajaya will be only completed in a few years.....And most of it are booked.

Yep, this place is ideal for people staying or working in the east, centre and of north of Singapore due to close approximity to the causeway. Also shopping centre below and convinence to everywhere in JB. Food and ammenities are aplenty to choose from. Thumb up for this!

cathylmg
03-05-2011, 01:48 AM
Looks like it's till pretty bare now. Can't wait for everything it to be complete. Then we'll see a more vibrant JB.


managed to dig out recent video tour of iskandar projects on youtube in various state of finish. enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYwEjv8YFig

Analytical Professor
03-05-2011, 06:04 AM
My 2c here.

I had mentioned sometime back in one of my earlier postings that Causeway will remain the primary conduit between Spore and Malaysia.

I still stand by it firmly. There is no way any other linkway between Spore and Johore can be as successful as Causeway. This is in terms of the sheer numbers of vehicular traffic and ofcourse commerce (inter country trade) as well.

Now with the Coastal Highway up and running soon there will be more traffic at Causeway. Thats my guess. Why? Simply because its easier to get into Spore via Causeway.

As it is there is traffic from Bukit Indah side that uses Causeway to get into Spore. I suspect the traffic will only get heavier when the Coastal Highway is up and running.


Yep, this place is ideal for people staying or working in the east, centre and of north of Singapore due to close approximity to the causeway. Also shopping centre below and convinence to everywhere in JB. Food and ammenities are aplenty to choose from. Thumb up for this!

Analytical Professor
03-05-2011, 06:08 AM
I think this exercise should not hurt your knees.


I've been doing this since 20 something. No problem for me. Even though with children and couldn't take time off to workout, I improvise and do it on staircase outside my flat. One thing you have to get a nice pair of shoe for exercise. I stopped to do this 2 year ago, after my eye operation which doctor had advice me not to exercise. Weight have been going north eversince. I think I'll go back to doing this after I move house.

Analytical Professor
03-05-2011, 06:52 AM
Congratulations!!

Welcome Aboard.

Best place to change money i think is Change Alley as advised by most bros out here.

To remit.... already been discussed in preceding pages.

In my case i carried cash physically (though not a good idea)

Dear forummers I will be taking the plunge in getting an abode =) in jb. Nd help in pointing me in the best way to remit the 10% deposit. Any plce in spore that can give the best rate to remit? Isit safe n reliable? Or isit beter to change and physically deposit into the developer account? Any advise is very much appreciated .

euphony
03-05-2011, 09:06 AM
My 2c here.

I had mentioned sometime back in one of my earlier postings that Causeway will remain the primary conduit between Spore and Malaysia.

I still stand by it firmly. There is no way any other linkway between Spore and Johore can be as successful as Causeway. This is in terms of the sheer numbers of vehicular traffic and ofcourse commerce (inter country trade) as well.

Now with the Coastal Highway up and running soon there will be more traffic at Causeway. Thats my guess. Why? Simply because its easier to get into Spore via Causeway.

As it is there is traffic from Bukit Indah side that uses Causeway to get into Spore. I suspect the traffic will only get heavier when the Coastal Highway is up and running.

that will be scary to think about because the volume is already quite high as is not counting long weekends and big holidays. But as a commuter this will become even more justified of the higher tolls at the 2nd link side for me i guess?

avalon74
03-05-2011, 02:26 PM
The racks look good sia.

For what ah?

The racks are for storage of stuff in bomb shelter in HDB.
Each shelf can sustain a UDL of ard 200kgf.

Its boltless hence easy to dismantle & assemble..

I store all sorts of stuff..
the other benefit is "termite proof" since its steel.. :)

avalon74
03-05-2011, 02:27 PM
I'm dismantling mine to move in to JB together with the rest.

Win liao.. jb just weekend home for me..
If really no lobang, will ask if they transport to jb..

avalon74
03-05-2011, 02:34 PM
PLEASE check with a qualified doc on this: everyone 25 years ago took the stairs for the exercise value, and today most of them have terrible problems with their knees. One girlfriend, and the most diligent of us all in taking the stairs even tho it was 16 storeys up and down sometimes, is walking with great difficulty now, at 62. No justice in this.

Simple formula on weight loss: NO sugar, very low carbs [yes, that means almost no rice/bread/noodles/prata], daily moderate exercise [45 mins of walking], LOTS of green veg [preferably raw like timun and lettuce], plenty of water, less sweet fruit eg papaya, stop snacking on rubbish [pisang goreng, chocolates, karna, epok-epok etc], enough sleep.
Don't you know all this already??
If you do all that, is life still worth living???

Hi Mallow..
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a fren in the past..
Asked him to quit smoking & he asked me why he shd do it..
My reply being that smoking increase the chances of cancer.. (typical answer)
His response.. life without smoking is not worth the additional few years..

avalon74
03-05-2011, 02:38 PM
I remember the hardware shop at Setia Tropika's Livistonia square sells them. You make the measurements. They will make it and send it to you. The shop is the one which faces the road that leads to Setia's sale office. Im not familiar with Nusajaya's side so no comment on that.

Hmm.. then it is abt time I visit ST.. since Setia initially planned the bus trip to visit ST..
Is it ard the CBD area?

avalon74
03-05-2011, 02:41 PM
My 2c here.

I had mentioned sometime back in one of my earlier postings that Causeway will remain the primary conduit between Spore and Malaysia.


AP, guess the main reason causeway is preferred by many is the toll charges compared to 2nd link..
Assuming both charges are the same, there may be a balancing of traffic load..

maxpark
03-05-2011, 03:19 PM
AP, guess the main reason causeway is preferred by many is the toll charges compared to 2nd link..
Assuming both charges are the same, there may be a balancing of traffic load..


I think so too...

Analytical Professor
03-05-2011, 05:35 PM
Tolls may play a part. But the way i look at it is:

Why are Coastal Highway and EDL linked to CIQ?

I think the story about the Causeway is Historical. And from that perspective it will remain and improvements will be made to it from time to time.

A primary conduit is just that.... meant to be heavily utilised.

Tolls at Causeway can never be increased to match second link levels simply because a primary source of linking the 2 land masses needs to be maintained. To top that the cost has to be manageable too.

Now another pointer.... Tolls at Tuas were reduced some time ago. But the traffic situation does not seem to have increased at Tuas. Why?

Having said that i must add that i have been stuck in jams at Tuas (humongous jams at that) long before the tolls were reduced.

To the credit of the Causeway i think those of us who have been using it for atleast 10+ years will have noticed that significant and noticeable improvements have been made.









I think so too...

Analytical Professor
03-05-2011, 05:38 PM
Oh! Bro i thought u needed them for your Eco Garden Home.

Actually i am keen to equip my store rooms with racks. Maybe i should consider your idea. For simple plywood racks i was quoted RM 1800+.

How much do your stainless steel ones cost?

Now that Cathy has mentioned about the shop at Livistonia square.... i may wanna give it a try too.




The racks are for storage of stuff in bomb shelter in HDB.
Each shelf can sustain a UDL of ard 200kgf.

Its boltless hence easy to dismantle & assemble..

I store all sorts of stuff..
the other benefit is "termite proof" since its steel.. :)

Analytical Professor
03-05-2011, 05:49 PM
Scary surely.

For the simple reason that it will bypass the inner road traffic a lot of commuters will therefore use the EDL and CH which will link up to the CIQ.

And of course there will be a bunch of commuters from 2nd link who would now wanna use the Causeway since it becomes convenient.


that will be scary to think about because the volume is already quite high as is not counting long weekends and big holidays. But as a commuter this will become even more justified of the higher tolls at the 2nd link side for me i guess?

toyohon
04-05-2011, 01:20 AM
Scary surely.

For the simple reason that it will bypass the inner road traffic a lot of commuters will therefore use the EDL and CH which will link up to the CIQ.

And of course there will be a bunch of commuters from 2nd link who would now wanna use the Causeway since it becomes convenient.

Causeway is THE preference for those who commute daily or frequently. 2nd link is meant for those who can afford and don't mind paying the premium toll charges. Historically, the more established towns and services are located on the eastern side of Johor - Ulu Tiram, Kota Tinggi, Pasir Gudang port, Tebrau industrial estates, etc. The majority of its population is also centred on this part of Johor. The western part of Johore is the "new Johore" as some of you call it, with promises and promising growth in what, 10 years time or more? It is meant for new investors and better off locals, that's my personal observation.:)

Analytical Professor
04-05-2011, 01:41 AM
1) Historically Causeway is important.

2) A link for a viable mode of transport needs to be maintained

3) The CH and EDL connects the well off (new investors) to the CIQ.

So difficult to find a reason why Causeway would lose its importance.

To add to that the Causeway has seen noticeable and significant changes over the last decade.

Finally a reduction in premium tolls at Tuas has not helped boost traffic there. Why?


Causeway is THE preference for those who commute daily or frequently. 2nd link is meant for those who can afford and don't mind paying the premium toll charges. Historically, the more established towns and services are located on the eastern side of Johor - Ulu Tiram, Kota Tinggi, Pasir Gudang port, Tebrau industrial estates, etc. The majority of its population is also centred on this part of Johor. The western part of Johore is the "new Johore" as some of you call it, with promises and promising growth in what, 10 years time or more? It is meant for new investors and better off locals, that's my personal observation.:)

toyohon
04-05-2011, 02:17 AM
By Presenna Nambiar
Published: 2011/05/03

Johor Baru: The prices of residential properties have risen by an average of 40per cent since 2006, in a city which used to suffer from an overhang of properties.

For example, Casa Almyra, a project by Danga Sdn Bhd, has seen prices go up to RM800,000 from RM450,000 in 2006.

KGV-Lambert Smith Hampton (Johor) Sdn Bhd executive director Samuel Tan said while transaction volume has not been very exciting, value of transactions have grown by leaps and bounds in the Iskandar region.

He said property owners and buyers can expect property prices in Johor Baru to rise by a further 10-20 per cent by end of 2011, on increased costs alone.

The price of commercial land in areas like Jalan Datuk Abdullah Tahir, Danga Bay and Tebrau area have also more than doubled since 2006.

More than half of these buyers are now locals.

"People are land-banking in Johor Baru because they see something in Iskandar Malaysia," Tan said.

Property developers seem to be subscribing to this theory, considering the influx of property developers to Johor Baru.

Established players like SP Setia Bhd have no less than four simultaneous projects in Iskandar, while Bandar Raya Developments Bhd and IOI Properties have also launched major developments.

Some RM28.26 billion property development projects have been approved since 2006.

"If we used to count the number of property developers who are here, now its easier to count those who are not here," Danga Bay Sdn Bhd chief executive officer Datuk Lim Kang Hoo said, adding that the heightened interest has helped revive some 90 per cent of stalled commercial and residential projects in Johor Baru.

Menteri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman said the spurt in economic activity is a boon for the man in the street, as evidenced by higher wages, improved business opportunities and better living standards


Read more: Residential property boom in Johor Baru http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/pjb/Article/#ixzz1LK17pDxK

hangyong
04-05-2011, 03:00 AM
Hi All,

I am looking at the Fairway Suites launched by Horizon Hills...

Looking through the thread, seems like condos will have loads of problems, but what are the chances of this happening at Horizon Hills? I mean, it is still within Horizon Hills, and they have to upkeep its image I guess. What are your thoughts about this?

For those who are now staying in Horizon Hills, how are things? Do you feel that its safe?

I went over last weekend, and will be going over again after casting my vote this week again.

Considering very very hard

cathylmg
04-05-2011, 03:07 AM
Hmm.. then it is abt time I visit ST.. since Setia initially planned the bus trip to visit ST..
Is it ard the CBD area?

They organise trips to Setia sales office once in a while. You can tongpang their coach from harbour front.

Listonia Square is about 10-15 minutes walking distance from the sales office if I'm not wrong. The road leads to it straight. But the hardware shop is opposite the sales office.

Analytical Professor
04-05-2011, 04:45 AM
Hey hangyong, HH is a wonderful place and possibly the safest place in JB.

Safety in Johore cant get better than HH.

So nothing to consider very very hard....:D:D

Please take some time and read the many pages here and you will understand better.



Hi All,

I am looking at the Fairway Suites launched by Horizon Hills...

Looking through the thread, seems like condos will have loads of problems, but what are the chances of this happening at Horizon Hills? I mean, it is still within Horizon Hills, and they have to upkeep its image I guess. What are your thoughts about this?

For those who are now staying in Horizon Hills, how are things? Do you feel that its safe?

I went over last weekend, and will be going over again after casting my vote this week again.

Considering very very hard

Analytical Professor
04-05-2011, 04:47 AM
Thank you :):):)toyohon:):) for a positive post.

Cant get better than this.

Music to my ears.

I am sure Cathy is smiling as well.

And of course everyone else out here.


By Presenna Nambiar
Published: 2011/05/03

Johor Baru: The prices of residential properties have risen by an average of 40per cent since 2006, in a city which used to suffer from an overhang of properties.

For example, Casa Almyra, a project by Danga Sdn Bhd, has seen prices go up to RM800,000 from RM450,000 in 2006.

KGV-Lambert Smith Hampton (Johor) Sdn Bhd executive director Samuel Tan said while transaction volume has not been very exciting, value of transactions have grown by leaps and bounds in the Iskandar region.

He said property owners and buyers can expect property prices in Johor Baru to rise by a further 10-20 per cent by end of 2011, on increased costs alone.

The price of commercial land in areas like Jalan Datuk Abdullah Tahir, Danga Bay and Tebrau area have also more than doubled since 2006.

More than half of these buyers are now locals.

"People are land-banking in Johor Baru because they see something in Iskandar Malaysia," Tan said.

Property developers seem to be subscribing to this theory, considering the influx of property developers to Johor Baru.

Established players like SP Setia Bhd have no less than four simultaneous projects in Iskandar, while Bandar Raya Developments Bhd and IOI Properties have also launched major developments.

Some RM28.26 billion property development projects have been approved since 2006.

"If we used to count the number of property developers who are here, now its easier to count those who are not here," Danga Bay Sdn Bhd chief executive officer Datuk Lim Kang Hoo said, adding that the heightened interest has helped revive some 90 per cent of stalled commercial and residential projects in Johor Baru.

Menteri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman said the spurt in economic activity is a boon for the man in the street, as evidenced by higher wages, improved business opportunities and better living standards


Read more: Residential property boom in Johor Baru http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/pjb/Article/#ixzz1LK17pDxK

2bFree
04-05-2011, 04:54 AM
I have been in HH coming to a week already and the security there is superb. The guards are very strict on letting people in and they have regular patrols (on scooters) round the estate.



Hi All,
For those who are now staying in Horizon Hills, how are things? Do you feel that its safe?

cathylmg
04-05-2011, 05:04 AM
Professor, you are waiting for me to shout 'Huat Ah!' Is it? LOL!

Yap. Good news. Hope they keep up the good work.

Bros and Sis from all over IM, we appreciate every little effort to make IM more vibrant, more liveable, more prosperous, more safe and more profitable to our investments. Credits goes to you! :)


Thank you :):):)toyohon:):) for a positive post.

Cant get better than this.

Music to my ears.

I am sure Cathy is smiling as well.

And of course everyone else out here.

hangyong
04-05-2011, 05:09 AM
Hey hangyong, HH is a wonderful place and possibly the safest place in JB.

Safety in Johore cant get better than HH.

So nothing to consider very very hard....:D:D

Please take some time and read the many pages here and you will understand better.

Hi Analytical Professor,

actually, I am more concerned about the portion where it was mentioned that we should stay away from Condo in Malaysia, because the maintenance is sluggish (faulty lifts not repaired, rubbish bin no cleared, etc).

I know fairway suite is still under construction, so no one can tell the actual situation, but for those who have been in HH, talking to the developers, management, etc, do they make you feel confident that they will do a good job on the maintenance?

What about those who are on landed property? How is the maintenance?

Thanks for your reply!!

hangyong
04-05-2011, 05:11 AM
I have been in HH coming to a week already and the security there is superb. The guards are very strict on letting people in and they have regular patrols (on scooters) round the estate.


Hi 2bFree,

are you referring to the security to your estate (The Gateway, The hills, etc), or the main gate security?

When I was there last weekend, the main gate security not around leh.

Analytical Professor
04-05-2011, 05:35 AM
Ofcourse la must 'Huat Ah!' many many times.


Professor, you are waiting for me to shout 'Huat Ah!' Is it? LOL!

Yap. Good news. Hope they keep up the good work.

Bros and Sis from all over IM, we appreciate every little effort to make IM more vibrant, more liveable, more prosperous, more safe and more profitable to our investments. Credits goes to you! :)

austin_hts
04-05-2011, 08:37 AM
For those who may be keen :

1) Austin Hills Golf Resort - 15 km from woodlands checkpt

a) Package A : 7 x 1 hr golf lessons + 2 golf course experience (4 hrs)

1 pax - RM 980
2 pax - RM 750
3 pax - RM 650

b) PackageB : 6 x 1 hr golf lessons + 1 golf course experience

1 pax - RM 680
2 pax - RM 550
3 pax - RM 450

2 ) Riding School at Leisure Farm Resort (Near Tuas check point)

Basic riding, 2 pax, 8 lessons x 45 mins
RM 420 / pax

cathylmg
04-05-2011, 08:51 AM
Hi Analytical Professor,

actually, I am more concerned about the portion where it was mentioned that we should stay away from Condo in Malaysia, because the maintenance is sluggish (faulty lifts not repaired, rubbish bin no cleared, etc).

I know fairway suite is still under construction, so no one can tell the actual situation, but for those who have been in HH, talking to the developers, management, etc, do they make you feel confident that they will do a good job on the maintenance?

What about those who are on landed property? How is the maintenance?

Thanks for your reply!!

Actually buying properties with basics facilities which are easy to maintain is enough for me. Most important is gated and guarded. Incase of default by management. Not that every development gets bad management. But just incase.

Anyway, how many of us swims everyday? How many plays golf every weekends? And how many goes to the gym frequently? Even Bro Wuqi also so busy bringing relatives around evey weekend. How to enjoy a game of golf? Even if you want to enjoy the facilites, you can just pay per entry. Definately cheaper then having to pay high maintenance for these facilities every month.

IMHO. Might have alternative voice hor....haha!

hangyong
04-05-2011, 09:06 AM
Actually buying properties with basics facilities which are easy to maintain is enough for me. Most important is gated and guarded. Incase of default by management. Not that every development gets bad management. But just incase.

Anyway, how many of us swims everyday? How many plays golf every weekends? And how many goes to the gym frequently? Even Bro Wuqi also so busy bringing relatives around evey weekend. How to enjoy a game of golf? Even if you want to enjoy the facilites, you can just pay per entry. Definately cheaper then having to pay high maintenance for these facilities every month.

IMHO. Might have alternative voice hor....haha!

That I totally agree. But after bringing my wife there, she still prefers the condo as she feels safer than staying in landed property in Malaysia.

So its not so much of the facilities, but rather the up keep of the place for necessary necessities like rubbish clearing and lifts working, etc.

For me, I personally prefer landed property as as I would like my kids to have a place to run about.

But I have to respect my wife's views too since she will be staying there too, and for a longer time daily then me.

toyohon
04-05-2011, 02:39 PM
Johor property market to shine
Written by Chua Sue-Ann
Wednesday, 04 May 2011 11:57

KUALA LUMPUR: As multi-billion ringgit investments in Johor’s Iskandar Malaysia take shape, property players and investors are increasingly positive that the Johor property market is poised for a golden era after a sluggish decade.

KGV-Lambert Smith Hampton executive director Samuel Tan is among those convinced that Johor Bahru and Iskandar Malaysia’s property scene are on the cusp of a change of fortune.

“The past 10 years have been miserable. When we look at Kuala Lumpur’s property market, we are full of envy,” Tan told a media briefing in Johor Bahru last weekend.

Although property values and demand have a long way to go before they catch up with the hot real estate markets of Kuala Lumpur, the Klang Valley and Penang, Tan said the narrowing gap in values provides investors good upside potential.

Although total transaction volume for properties in Iskandar Malaysia remained constant over the years, he said, the transaction value and demand have been on the uptrend, particularly since 2H10.

Data from the National Property Information Centre (Napic) show that the transaction volume in Johor in 4Q10 more than doubled to 5,147 units from 2,105 in the preceding quarter.

Significantly, the transaction value nearly tripled to RM1.13 billion in 4Q10 from RM397 million in the previous quarter.

Tan said greenfield projects like those in Nusajaya had impacted the Johor property market, as it carved out a well-planned space for high-end properties, with improved accessibility and amenities.

“Instead of buying cheap houses, people are now willing to pay higher prices. People are changing their lifestyles. They are going for things that offer them prestige, lifestyle and security,” he said.

Tan predicted that Johor Bahru would see the rise of more serviced apartments in the city centre, driven by growth in population and economic activities in the state capital.


The changing skyline of Johor Bahru.
He said luxury properties in Johor largely targeted foreign buyers, given the restrictions on foreigners purchasing properties priced below RM500,000.

However, almost 60% of property investors in Johor last year were local buyers, which Tan said indicates growing confidence in the Iskandar Malaysia story.

Brownfield developments in the well-located suburban areas too will see growth due to improved infrastructure connectivity and commercial decentralisation, he said.

Apart from residential properties, shop offices and commercial properties in Johor have also seen a substantial increase in prices as people were starting to view commercial properties as investment products, Tan said.

Land values have seen substantial increase as well, as investors begin accumulating landbank on optimism that Iskandar Malaysia would blossom into a thriving economic hub, he said.

Many large developers have been flocking to Johor Bahru and Iskandar Malaysia, likely realising that the upside potential in Kuala Lumpur and the Klang Valley was limited, and that Iskandar Malaysia would be the next untapped hive of economic activity.

However, industry observers had expressed reservations as to whether the rising potential of Johor’s property market was indeed sustainable in the long term, given that it was largely dependent on take-up by domestic and Singapore investors who have a wide array of options.

Malaysian Rating Corp Bhd vice-president for ratings Rajaseharan Paramesran said Iskandar Malaysia’s continued ability to attract investors would be a key factor in driving demand for residential and commercial properties in the region.

Rajaseharan noted that Iskandar Malaysia had surpassed its own projections, receiving RM3.76 billion in investments for 1Q of this year, bringing the total investments to date to RM73 billion.

The added impetus for Iskandar Malaysia’s growth would be the infrastructure upgrading within the development region, closer cooperation with the Singapore government and the establishment of various educational institutions.

“Previously these were just development concepts and plans but these are now being actualised, thereby generating interest among property buyers,” Rajaseharan told The Edge Financial Daily.

According to Rajaseharan, although there were previously large overhangs in the Johor property market, the huge focus on the Iskandar region, supported by Khazanah Nasional, would continue to drive the momentum in the southern state.

However, he added that property developers would still have to balance supply and demand dynamics despite the presence of strong factors to support growth in Iskandar Malaysia.

In a similar vein, Iskandar Regional Development Authority (Irda) CEO Ismail Ibrahim said the Iskandar Malaysia planning authority was mindful that there must be a healthy balance between supply and demand for properties.

“We don’t want a mad rush of landowners or property players building properties. They must first identify an economic anchor before building their townships,” he told reporters last weekend.

Ismail noted that housing prices in the southern state had been on the rise, a marked shift from the largely rental-driven real estate market in the region.

“We see demand for residential properties as a spillover from the economic activity that is taking place. In the past, properties were largely for the rental market but now people realise that they can work and live here,” he said.

Despite the optimism, data from the Valuation and Property Services Department show that Johor continued to top the national list in terms of total volume and value of overhang for residential property and shoplots in 4QFY10.

For residential properties, Johor recorded an overhang of 5,599 units of residential properties valued at RM1.01 billion, almost a quarter of the country’s total overhang for the sector in 4QFY10.

For shoplots, Johor posted an overhang of 2,456 units valued at RM612.34 million, significantly outnumbering the other states and federal territories.

The southern state also topped the list of unsold residential properties and shops, in terms of those under construction and those not constructed.

OSK Research head of research Chris Eng said 2012 would be the tipping point for Iskandar Malaysia as actual commercial projects begin.

“Iskandar Malaysia is looking increasingly bright but we need on the ground commercial activation to kick off first,” he told The Edge Financial Daily.

He said demand for the medium range residential properties in Iskandar Malaysia had been strong and should trigger the secondary effect of demand for shoplots.

KGV-Lambert Smith Hampton’s Tan conceded that many investors have been sceptical as to how Iskandar Malaysia can achieve the optimum critical mass needed to support the construction and real estate projects.

“I view Iskandar Malaysia together with Singapore because of the proximity and connectivity. We have six million people between these two areas and if you can tap into this catchment, it is great,” Tan said.

Analysts concur, although they said much of the change in perception towards Iskandar Malaysia also had to do with the corporate developments in UEM Land Holdings Bhd, which took over Sunrise Bhd last year.

Sunrise chairman Datuk Tong Kooi Ong is now part of UEM Land’s development committee that will spearhead the development of its landbank in Iskandar Malaysia.

In the process, UEM Land, with a stronger management and branding in place, has since emerged as one of the top property picks for analysts and fund managers this year.

However, an industry observer also advocated some caution amid the euphoria as investors begin comparing land prices between Iskandar, Johor and Singapore, and expect more convergence.

“While land prices in Iskandar Malaysia are a fraction of Singapore’s, there is no guarantee it will become the Shenzhen of Hong Kong,” he said.

The observer added that price convergence for Iskandar Malaysia may be less like the Shenzhen-Hong Kong model, which was a “one country, two systems” situation.

“Here, is it two countries, two systems,” he said adding that for Iskandar Malaysia to be successful, it has to first build a sizable local population, rather than rely purely on Singaporean investors.


This article appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, May 4, 2011