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CAD officers seizing films?

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JessicaLau

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Most of you all should be already aware of the ongoing Ren Ci probe. I, although am paying attention to the case with great interest, however will not be discussing the case in this post. Instead, I will be looking at another case, which is somewhat linked to the probe, which caught my interest.

As most of you all should already know, Mr. Pang Leong Chuan, a former personal assistant of the Venerable Ming Yi, was charged with having 138 obscene and uncertified films and that these films were found & seized from an apartment where Ming Yi sometimes stayed and where Mr. Pang is believed to have stayed before.

What I found interesting was that according to this Straits Times report, it was officers from the Commercial Affairs Department (CAD) that found and seized the films.

With the above in mind, I can't help but wonder: is it within the CAD's powers to seize films? And were the CAD officers searching the apartment specifically for the films or were they searching for evidence related to the Ren Ci probe but incidentally found the films and decided to seize them?

Also, if the CAD had a search warrant to search the apartment, did their search warrant allow them to seize stuff unrelated to the Ren Ci probe? Or did they went beyond the limits of their search warrant?

Well, I checked the CAD's website and it seems that the CAD is only in charge of investigating white collar crime. Hmm... Is the possesion of obscene and uncertified films a white collar crime? Although I am not certain what can be classified as a white collar crime in Singapore but I doubt that possession of illegal films is a white collar crime.

And if it is not the CAD which investigated this case of possession of illegal films, then I got another question: is it allowed for officers of one police department to pass on evidence they found at a place (but unrelated to the case that they are investigating) to another department for further action?

I don't have the answers to these questions so if any of you all have the answers, please enlighten me...
 

Leongsam

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Also, if the CAD had a search warrant to search the apartment, did their search warrant allow them to seize stuff unrelated to the Ren Ci probe? Or did they went beyond the limits of their search warrant?

In a police state, the police can do whatever they want.:p
 

sunny302

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CAD had a search warrant to search the apartment, did their search warrant allow them to seize stuff unrelated to the Ren Ci probe? Or did they went beyond the limits of their search warrant?

Whilst the intent of the warrant was to search for evidence relating to the offence,anything "illegal" :biggrin:found during the search will be seized and the matter referred to the relevant depts....:p
 

tonychat

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i find that this saga is so 3rd world. THe whole issue is about commerical crime and why the hell they keep highlighting about porntapes and downloads. That is so lame. What are they trying to proved?

And of course, those sinkie, being 3rd world minded, are being taken in by it easily.
 

High Command

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And if it is not the CAD which investigated this case of possession of illegal films, then I got another question: is it allowed for officers of one police department to pass on evidence they found at a place (but unrelated to the case that they are investigating) to another department for further action?

I don't have the answers to these questions so if any of you all have the answers, please enlighten me...

YES! It is called sharing the booty! :biggrin: Such evidence needs to be viewed.
 

bebo

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i find that this saga is so 3rd world. THe whole issue is about commerical crime and why the hell they keep highlighting about porntapes and downloads. That is so lame. What are they trying to proved?

Highlighting about porntapes in this monk's case is good because it tells you that the monk and his crime partners are not as holy as one might imagine. So next time you see him or another monk, if he solicits a donation, you may well be giving money for porn.
 

goldencub

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...And if it is not the CAD which investigated this case of possession of illegal films, then I got another question: is it allowed for officers of one police department to pass on evidence they found at a place (but unrelated to the case that they are investigating) to another department for further action?..

Well, like most worker, less job is better, so if no one from another department requests for such information, I believe they will not forward to them unneccessarily.
 

Mighty Megatron

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Well, like most worker, less job is better, so if no one from another department requests for such information, I believe they will not forward to them unneccessarily.

Wrong when porn is concerned it will be forwarded. As I recall there was a little incident a few years back involving our home team and their cache of porn. :rolleyes:
 
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