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Legal Organ Trading; what your view?
- Thread starter blu3ray
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gd morning everybody,
To allow organ to be traded or not to be traded - it is really a tough question. My view is, just like many other issues, it is perhaps not a matter of right or wrong. It is a matter of perspective. If u r healthy n not even a single relative or close kin is having any kidney, liver or heart problem, u will probably say, "No, we should not allow organ trading because once we allow it alot of poor people will be taken advantage of. And only d rich will benefit, etc, etc, etc."
But if u yourself or your loved one r racing against time to fine a donor, u wl surely (i used surely here because i think i understand d anxiety of those who r waiting for a donor and they have no time or very little time to wait) applaud d legalisation of organ trading. At least, if there is someone who is prepared to sell there is hope for life for d dying patient.
Even on tis morning ST our dear Health Minister Khaw has said not to rule out organ trading now. I guess d signal is quite clear. Organ trading might b possible, but the legal frameworks to ensure safety, fair play, transparency, administration, etc. must be thoroughly work out and in place before we could allow organ trading. It will takes some times for d experts to study n come out with their expert's point of view n public consultation n debate before we could finally make d appropriate law to police it right.
Personally, i think we can allow organ trading, but we must make sure tat the donors must be informed and must not be taken advantage of; those poor and dying patients must be given an equal chance of receiving organ transplant n not be deprived of because everybody now only wanna sell their organ n not offering it for free in d original noble idea of saving life. If we can find a balance in this aspect, we may allow organ trading.
To allow organ to be traded or not to be traded - it is really a tough question. My view is, just like many other issues, it is perhaps not a matter of right or wrong. It is a matter of perspective. If u r healthy n not even a single relative or close kin is having any kidney, liver or heart problem, u will probably say, "No, we should not allow organ trading because once we allow it alot of poor people will be taken advantage of. And only d rich will benefit, etc, etc, etc."
But if u yourself or your loved one r racing against time to fine a donor, u wl surely (i used surely here because i think i understand d anxiety of those who r waiting for a donor and they have no time or very little time to wait) applaud d legalisation of organ trading. At least, if there is someone who is prepared to sell there is hope for life for d dying patient.
Even on tis morning ST our dear Health Minister Khaw has said not to rule out organ trading now. I guess d signal is quite clear. Organ trading might b possible, but the legal frameworks to ensure safety, fair play, transparency, administration, etc. must be thoroughly work out and in place before we could allow organ trading. It will takes some times for d experts to study n come out with their expert's point of view n public consultation n debate before we could finally make d appropriate law to police it right.
Personally, i think we can allow organ trading, but we must make sure tat the donors must be informed and must not be taken advantage of; those poor and dying patients must be given an equal chance of receiving organ transplant n not be deprived of because everybody now only wanna sell their organ n not offering it for free in d original noble idea of saving life. If we can find a balance in this aspect, we may allow organ trading.
to me, it's a dilemma.
Just imagine if the one who needs the kidney is the one you love, your parent or your wife. How? People can wait on the transplant list for a few years, no kidney, condition get worse, too sick to transplant and die. The whole reason for transplant is to save lives.
If worried not enough money, surely can buy an insurance policy that can cover it. Maybe say bit more, but should be affordable.
But what about those donating kidneys? Maybe make the amount enough to make it worthwhile. If don't want to sell organ, can sell blood, right?
I'm thinking blood donors should be paid. Surely the hospital charges the blood recipient? Why should the donor not get said for precious lifesaving blood?
Just imagine if the one who needs the kidney is the one you love, your parent or your wife. How? People can wait on the transplant list for a few years, no kidney, condition get worse, too sick to transplant and die. The whole reason for transplant is to save lives.
If worried not enough money, surely can buy an insurance policy that can cover it. Maybe say bit more, but should be affordable.
But what about those donating kidneys? Maybe make the amount enough to make it worthwhile. If don't want to sell organ, can sell blood, right?
I'm thinking blood donors should be paid. Surely the hospital charges the blood recipient? Why should the donor not get said for precious lifesaving blood?
Well this will be prospective issue.almost like prostitution whereby 1 willing to sell 1 willing to buy.who can be blamed?
We are talking about lives here sure most of the people are selfish
Imagine paying a sum of money to survive who wont?
Who wont sell their thing to survive?
We can only blame the middle man for cheating and earning money in the process.
The only thing i angry is the buyer offer so much the middle man eat 90% sia only pay 10% to the poor guy who had to cut out their organ
We are talking about lives here sure most of the people are selfish
Imagine paying a sum of money to survive who wont?
Who wont sell their thing to survive?
We can only blame the middle man for cheating and earning money in the process.
The only thing i angry is the buyer offer so much the middle man eat 90% sia only pay 10% to the poor guy who had to cut out their organ
A better question would be should a 3rd party be allowed to profit from it? :p
I believe that for as long as the donor and donee enter into a mutually respectful arrangement without unreasonable profiteering by others, it should be allowed.
Based on the declared transaction prices, it is not beyond the reach of the majority of our very fortunate populous. Most of us don't need cars but yearn to throw away $10k p.a. on depreciation of such frivolous expenditure on a japanese car. The donee can continue a highly productive economic life instead of being handicapped by the need to do twice or thrice weekly dialysis which renders them economically unviable and a continual economic liability to all around them. As for the donor, they go away with a chance of providing a much better life for their family.
I believe that with proper screening by the competent authorities, this can be achieved. With everything out in the opening, the chance of non-profiteering and better pre-op diagnosis can be ensured and managed.
Is it better to hold a pedestal moral high ground blind folded to the sufferings of both the donor and donee? Or provide a safe and open venue to fulfill their needs and wants?
Based on the declared transaction prices, it is not beyond the reach of the majority of our very fortunate populous. Most of us don't need cars but yearn to throw away $10k p.a. on depreciation of such frivolous expenditure on a japanese car. The donee can continue a highly productive economic life instead of being handicapped by the need to do twice or thrice weekly dialysis which renders them economically unviable and a continual economic liability to all around them. As for the donor, they go away with a chance of providing a much better life for their family.
I believe that with proper screening by the competent authorities, this can be achieved. With everything out in the opening, the chance of non-profiteering and better pre-op diagnosis can be ensured and managed.
Is it better to hold a pedestal moral high ground blind folded to the sufferings of both the donor and donee? Or provide a safe and open venue to fulfill their needs and wants?
When I read what Khaw said in the papers, I couldn't help but think they didn't want to pass legislation on this just in case one of them needs a kidney in the future. Talk about self-serving.
As for me, I don't really have an opinion. It's easy to villify someone who's willing to pay for a kidney, especially if he's rich. I just pray my kidneys work well all the time.
As for me, I don't really have an opinion. It's easy to villify someone who's willing to pay for a kidney, especially if he's rich. I just pray my kidneys work well all the time.
The real danger here is how lack of regulation will turn a society into heartless brutes who won't value lives unless $$ is involved. eg: no one will give up their organs unless it's to sell. only the rich will get help.
If organ trade is legalised, it can only be compatible with a universal healthcare/national insurance policy, where poor people will also receive new organs, paid for by the hospital/insurance to a donor.
And there must be screening of donors to ensure they understand the risks involved. No question about supply - there'll be willing donors from villages in our neighbours.
If organ trade is legalised, it can only be compatible with a universal healthcare/national insurance policy, where poor people will also receive new organs, paid for by the hospital/insurance to a donor.
And there must be screening of donors to ensure they understand the risks involved. No question about supply - there'll be willing donors from villages in our neighbours.
good to just continue as illegal but don't prosecute those who need.
if legalise trade then no more free organ. the poor people bao c.
if not legalise then those who has manee also cannot find help.
so better to keep illegal and close one eye.
after all the trade is a willing seller willing buyer. just need to weed out any possible case of stealing, robbing or focing a seller organ out of a person.
better to develop clone organ. then no more problem.
if legalise trade then no more free organ. the poor people bao c.
if not legalise then those who has manee also cannot find help.
so better to keep illegal and close one eye.
after all the trade is a willing seller willing buyer. just need to weed out any possible case of stealing, robbing or focing a seller organ out of a person.
better to develop clone organ. then no more problem.
I just took it that they have not worked out how to allow medisave for the purchase adn whether or not it is in bad taste to have GST on the sale.
so how now in S'pore can legally sell organs boh ?
thinking of selling a kidney..........don't need 2 anyway............what's the market price leh ?
if can sell for 200-300k then don't wait liao lor.........
thinking of selling a kidney..........don't need 2 anyway............what's the market price leh ?
if can sell for 200-300k then don't wait liao lor.........
