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Preferential treatment during National Service?

jw5

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From Channel News Asia

SINGAPORE: The Government Parliamentary Committee (GPC) for Defence intends to raise in Parliament several defence-related issues highlighted in public recently.

In addition to points in the Defence Ministry's addendum, the GPC will raise issues like perceived preferential treatment during National Service (NS), deferment and disruption policies as well as concerns that children of new citizens or permanent residents give up their citizenship to evade NS.

The chairman of GPC for Defence, Dr Lim Wee Kiak, told Channel NewsAsia that for next week's Parliament sitting, he has filed a question on perceived preferential treatment during NS - something highlighted during the recent Presidential Election.

He has asked Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen to "clear the air" on the matter related to Dr Patrick Tan's prolonged disruption from NS.

Dr Patrick Tan is President Tony Tan Keng Yam's son.

Dr Lim said: "There shouldn't be any doubt in Singaporeans' mind as far as Mindef's policy is concerned (that) there must be fairness in terms of who get disrupted and who doesn't get disrupted. As a result, it doesn't cause resentment, it doesn't divide the society."

On Dr Patrick Tan's NS deployment to the Defence Medical Research Institute, Dr Lim said NSmen should be deployed according to their skill sets.

Dr Lim said: "In the sense that if he has certain skills that we can use, then (there is) no point using him as a cook or a driver or an infantry man.

"We do have naval architects coming to serve their reservist as their role as naval architects, because they studied in the subject. So, when the Navy wants to build a new ship, they call back our NSmen who are naval architects, so they serve in their role."

Dr Lim also wants Mindef to review its deferment and disruption policies, especially with many universities having different starting dates for their terms.

Dr Lim said: "There are many different universities now in Singapore, with the enrolment or the starting dates for their term different from one another.

"Our education scene has changed drastically, so must the SAF as well, in the sense that they have to keep up with times and look at approved universities, approved degrees. I think the list certainly should be expanded."

The GPC will also address concerns that children of new citizens or PRs may choose to give up their citizenship to evade National Service, after enjoying benefits such as subsidised education in Singapore.

Dr Lim said: "There have been some suggestions....(if) you are a PR and when you have a child that is going to serve NS, should we ask them to put in a bond. If your child refuses to do NS, then you forgo the bond."

Dr Lim hopes his fellow MPs would raise more questions during the debate in Parliament.
 

jw5

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Who wants to predict the outcome?

My prediction is that the investigation (if any) will reveal that Patrick Tan was (and still is) a super world class scientist whom Singapore simply could not have done without.
If not for him, thousands of Singaporeans would have been ravaged by disease.
It was our priviledge and honour that he took up the mantle to continue his world changing research during his NSF days.
If he had not disrupted and then spent his days in the lab working hard, we would have been "finished".

:rolleyes:
 

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From Channel News Asia

SINGAPORE: The Government Parliamentary Committee (GPC) for Defence intends to raise in Parliament several defence-related issues highlighted in public recently.

In addition to points in the Defence Ministry's addendum, the GPC will raise issues like perceived preferential treatment during National Service (NS), deferment and disruption policies as well as concerns that children of new citizens or permanent residents give up their citizenship to evade NS.

The chairman of GPC for Defence, Dr Lim Wee Kiak, told Channel NewsAsia that for next week's Parliament sitting, he has filed a question on perceived preferential treatment during NS - something highlighted during the recent Presidential Election.

He has asked Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen to "clear the air" on the matter related to Dr Patrick Tan's prolonged disruption from NS.

Dr Patrick Tan is President Tony Tan Keng Yam's son.

Dr Lim said: "There shouldn't be any doubt in Singaporeans' mind as far as Mindef's policy is concerned (that) there must be fairness in terms of who get disrupted and who doesn't get disrupted. As a result, it doesn't cause resentment, it doesn't divide the society."

On Dr Patrick Tan's NS deployment to the Defence Medical Research Institute, Dr Lim said NSmen should be deployed according to their skill sets.

Dr Lim said: "In the sense that if he has certain skills that we can use, then (there is) no point using him as a cook or a driver or an infantry man.

"We do have naval architects coming to serve their reservist as their role as naval architects, because they studied in the subject. So, when the Navy wants to build a new ship, they call back our NSmen who are naval architects, so they serve in their role."

Dr Lim also wants Mindef to review its deferment and disruption policies, especially with many universities having different starting dates for their terms.

Dr Lim said: "There are many different universities now in Singapore, with the enrolment or the starting dates for their term different from one another.

"Our education scene has changed drastically, so must the SAF as well, in the sense that they have to keep up with times and look at approved universities, approved degrees. I think the list certainly should be expanded."

The GPC will also address concerns that children of new citizens or PRs may choose to give up their citizenship to evade National Service, after enjoying benefits such as subsidised education in Singapore.

Dr Lim said: "There have been some suggestions....(if) you are a PR and when you have a child that is going to serve NS, should we ask them to put in a bond. If your child refuses to do NS, then you forgo the bond."

Dr Lim hopes his fellow MPs would raise more questions during the debate in Parliament.
NS Preferential treatment AKA White Horse Category is an open secret. All those who are serving NS and those who have served NS know about it. Why don't openly admit there is white horse system.
 

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White horse is needed to prevent preferential treatment just as millions in salaries are needed to prevent corruption. :smile:
 

krafty

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last time, my bmt buddy, i called him "white pig" instead of white horse cos his uncle is senior warrant officer not commissioned officer.lol...:biggrin:
 

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Dr Lim said: "There have been some suggestions....(if) you are a PR and when you have a child that is going to serve NS, should we ask them to put in a bond. If your child refuses to do NS, then you forgo the bond."

CCB Lim Wee Kiak talk so much, then in the end nothin is being done to these PRs... How many bloody Ah Nehs from India who sold their HDB flats for a profit and and at same time fleeing back to their Mother India to prevent their retarded sons from serving NS here..??? In the end, this is all empty talk by these Scums In White...
 

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Who wants to predict the outcome?

My prediction is that the investigation (if any) will reveal that Patrick Tan was (and still is) a super world class scientist whom Singapore simply could not have done without.
If not for him, thousands of Singaporeans would have been ravaged by disease.
It was our priviledge and honour that he took up the mantle to continue his world changing research during his NSF days.
If he had not disrupted and then spent his days in the lab working hard, we would have been "finished".

:rolleyes:

You win. LWK is merely directing a play.
 

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last time, my bmt buddy, i called him "white pig" instead of white horse cos his uncle is senior warrant officer not commissioned officer.lol...:biggrin:
a SWO in the right appointment is still able to pull some strings.......just a chow CO of an unit (rank major) can already arrange for a relative's son in BMT posted to his unit to be a clerk liao
 

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Not only has he raised the question he is also providing the answers. A waste of time, a dog and pony show and it remains to be seen how the new MPs will take this on. It is serious National Issue as many do not come from privileged backgrounds, a few have lost their lives, others have been maimed all in the name of NS.
 

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a SWO in the right appointment is still able to pull some strings.......just a chow CO of an unit (rank major) can already arrange for a relative's son in BMT posted to his unit to be a clerk liao

happens before in my time. This is really possible. bloody fit fellow ......clerk.....
 
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Dr Lim hopes his fellow MPs would raise more questions during the debate in Parliament.

i think it's time re-look at the need for conscription, active NS & reservists cycles. blatant waste of valuable human resources.

last but not least, not forgetting bro madmansg's mantra: NS is killing SG.
 

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Pink Horse ?

NS Preferential treatment AKA White Horse Category is an open secret. All those who are serving NS and those who have served NS know about it. Why don't openly admit there is white horse system.


I remember one of them tried to brushed it off aside that it was JUST a name given to it to 'prevent' any preferential treatment disregarding whether it was called a 'pink' horse or whatever or something. It's a lousy lie, we all know that.
 

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Re: Pink Horse ?

I remember one of them tried to brushed it off aside that it was JUST a name given to it to 'prevent' any preferential treatment disregarding whether it was called a 'pink' horse or whatever or something. It's a lousy lie, we all know that.

Cedric Fool?
 

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Who wants to predict the outcome?

My prediction is that the investigation (if any) will reveal that Patrick Tan was (and still is) a super world class scientist whom Singapore simply could not have done without.
If not for him, thousands of Singaporeans would have been ravaged by disease.
It was our priviledge and honour that he took up the mantle to continue his world changing research during his NSF days.
If he had not disrupted and then spent his days in the lab working hard, we would have been "finished".

:rolleyes:

Let us all say, "Amen" including anThONY... ha ha ha , praise God for such a man.
 

jw5

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i think it's time re-look at the need for conscription, active NS & reservists cycles. blatant waste of valuable human resources.

last but not least, not forgetting bro madmansg's mantra: NS is killing SG.

Whenever anyone asks where would the resources be obtained to investigate really genuine and worthy social cases, my answer is the following:
-- NS men
-- NSF
-- and most importantly regulars.

Just reduce one tea break per day and you can free up thousands of man hours to do such work.
 
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