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Did 26million Russians die during World War 2 ???

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The true figure of Russian losses needs to be reassessed, and may well turn out to be 80% less, that is just over five million. It will be recalled that Bolshevik propaganda was formulated on the principle of telling mammoth lies.


At the Nuremberg trials in November 1945, the Russian delegation announced that the Soviet Union had lost approximately 26 million people (9.2 million military personnel and 16.8 million civilians,) and that this loss would entitle them to extract maximum revenge at the expense of Germany.


The deaths of 16.8 million civilians are perplexing. 632,000 persons are estimated to have died during the siege of Leningrad (872 days), but how does one account for the other 16.2 million.


Not a single mass grave has been discovered in Russian territory held by the Germans to date. On the contrary almost all mass graves found in central Europe contain the remains of Germans while the mass graves in the Ukraine contain the estimated six million victims of Stalin's induced Holodomor.


When German armies advanced into the Baltic states and the Ukraine, they were greeted as liberators by enthusiastic, cheering crowds. The German army reopened the Russian Orthodox churches. A decision intended to befriend rather than antagonize the population.


Tens of thousands of Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Carelians, Cossacks, Estonians, Georgians, Latvians, Lithuanaians, Ruthenians, Tartars, Turkomans and Ukrainians volunteered to serve in the German Wehrmacht and Waffen SS. Furthermore, Lieutenant General Andrey Vlasov raised an army of over one million Russian prisoners of war against the invading Soviet army in East Prussia.


Germany had only a small window of opportunity to have carried out any alleged extermination campaign against civilians from June 1941 to October 1942. Thereafter she was forced to fight a desperate war of retreat, outnumbered on the war front by at least five to one.
 

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No country suffered more than Poland in WW2 when upto 20% of the Polish population died during the war. Of course Russia or China being much bigger countries have more deaths in terms of numbers ....
 

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if you r soviets, wuld u not exact "revenge" for what they have done to your countrymen 2 -3 years before?

imagine, if China is to invade Japan, wuld they not exact Rape of Tokyo in revenge of Rape of Nanking?

debatable...

Anarchy and wars drive humans to do crazy things.

I wish I won't live through a war in my lifetime. *fingers crossed*
 

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And did 6 million Jews died during WW2? As there are no laws against Holocaust denying in Singapore, I will say 'Hell No, there are still too many jews left today'
 

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if you r soviets, wuld u not exact "revenge" for what they have done to your countrymen 2 -3 years before?
imagine, if China is to invade Japan, wuld they not exact Rape of Tokyo in revenge of Rape of Nanking?
debatable...


this was what China did to the 2 millions Japanese soldiers, civilian administrators and their families after the end of WW2.
the Chinese government built 2000 new ships and boats to send all 2 millions Japanese back home to Japan within a year by Nov 1946, the costs of repatriation ( USD$400M ) all fully paid by the Chinese government.

the fate of the 600K Kwantung Army held captive by the Russians in Manchuria, Japan's wartime "friend" until Aug 1945.
they went to do hard coolie labor in Russian Siberia for many years, more than half of the 600k perished in Siberia. the army entire medical staffs were sent to the Chinese Communists and stayed with them until the end of the Korean war. there was also a little known mini "Rape of Nanking" in the cities of Manchuria where Russian soldiers openly raped Chinese and Japanese women on the streets and killed thousands of civilians as well.

the Chinese were very magnanimous as compared to the Russians back then.
 

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this was what China did to the 2 millions Japanese soldiers, civilian administrators and their families after the end of WW2.
the Chinese government built 2000 new ships and boats to send all 2 millions Japanese back home to Japan within a year by Nov 1946, the costs of repatriation ( USD$400M ) all fully paid by the Chinese government.

the fate of the 600K Kwantung Army held captive by the Russians in Manchuria, Japan's wartime "friend" until Aug 1945.
they went to do hard coolie labor in Russian Siberia for many years, more than half of the 600k perished in Siberia. the army entire medical staffs were sent to the Chinese Communists and stayed with them until the end of the Korean war. there was also a little known mini "Rape of Nanking" in the cities of Manchuria where Russian soldiers openly raped Chinese and Japanese women on the streets and killed thousands of civilians as well.

the Chinese were very magnanimous as compared to the Russians back then.

I honestly dun give a fuck to the Japs - esp for what they have done in WW2.

And till now, certain quarters harbour imperialist dreams

To me, the Japs r one of the most perverted creatures...but I like their AVs though.
 

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The true figure of Russian losses needs to be reassessed, and may well turn out to be 80% less, that is just over five million. It will be recalled that Bolshevik propaganda was formulated on the principle of telling mammoth lies.

who cares..................................................
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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And did 6 million Jews died during WW2? As there are no laws against Holocaust denying in Singapore, I will say 'Hell No, there are still too many jews left today'



the Jewish Holocaust................is a..................Hollow Cause.................


the chief rabbi of the World Jewish Congress said no way that 6million jews died at hands of the Nazis...............

becoz there are less than 6million jews in Nazi-occupied territories.............



SEARCH.................rense.com.....................

tons and tons of evidence pointing to the Holocaust being a hoax......................
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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this was what China did to the 2 millions Japanese soldiers, civilian administrators and their families after the end of WW2.
the Chinese government built 2000 new ships and boats to send all 2 millions Japanese back home to Japan within a year by Nov 1946, the costs of repatriation ( USD$400M ) all fully paid by the Chinese government.

the fate of the 600K Kwantung Army held captive by the Russians in Manchuria, Japan's wartime "friend" until Aug 1945.
they went to do hard coolie labor in Russian Siberia for many years, more than half of the 600k perished in Siberia. the army entire medical staffs were sent to the Chinese Communists and stayed with them until the end of the Korean war. there was also a little known mini "Rape of Nanking" in the cities of Manchuria where Russian soldiers openly raped Chinese and Japanese women on the streets and killed thousands of civilians as well.

the Chinese were very magnanimous as compared to the Russians back then.


About the mini rape of nanking in manchuria why was it allowed to be perpetuated?
 

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Mao Betrayed His People From Day One

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this was what China did to the 2 millions Japanese soldiers, civilian administrators and their families after the end of WW2.
the Chinese government built 2000 new ships and boats to send all 2 millions Japanese back home to Japan within a year by Nov 1946, the costs of repatriation ( USD$400M ) all fully paid by the Chinese government.



Mao was a run dog for Stalin anyway. There's a saying that China was split into 3 - Russia, Japan and R.O.C.

The question till today was not resolved: why Mongolia was allowed to be free from the Chinese Empire ? Did Mao sold the Chinese out ?
 

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Re: Mao Betrayed His People From Day One

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Mao was a run dog for Stalin anyway. There's a saying that China was split into 3 - Russia, Japan and R.O.C.

The question till today was not resolved: why Mongolia was allowed to be free from the Chinese Empire ? Did Mao sold the Chinese out ?

Chiang Kai Shek gave away Outer Mongolia in the Treaty of Friendship and Alliance, August 1945 signed by Republic of China and Soviet Union. the treaty was signed to solve both countries disagreements over the Russians temporary occupation of Manchuria, the Chinese Communists issues and others. the ROC will accept the independence of Outer Mongolia, provided that a referendum on the issue be held. Outer Mongolia was under Soviet control and the Russians fraud the elections. think around 95% Mongolians voted for independence in 1946. Mao Zedong after 1949 also accepted Outer Mongolia independence without any objections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Friendship_and_Alliance_(China_–_Soviet_Union) ( read the detailed Chinese version )
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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this was what China did to the 2 millions Japanese soldiers, civilian administrators and their families after the end of WW2.
the Chinese government built 2000 new ships and boats to send all 2 millions Japanese back home to Japan within a year by Nov 1946, the costs of repatriation ( USD$400M ) all fully paid by the Chinese government.

the fate of the 600K Kwantung Army held captive by the Russians in Manchuria, Japan's wartime "friend" until Aug 1945.
they went to do hard coolie labor in Russian Siberia for many years, more than half of the 600k perished in Siberia. the army entire medical staffs were sent to the Chinese Communists and stayed with them until the end of the Korean war. there was also a little known mini "Rape of Nanking" in the cities of Manchuria where Russian soldiers openly raped Chinese and Japanese women on the streets and killed thousands of civilians as well.

the Chinese were very magnanimous as compared to the Russians back then.

The chinese aren't so blood thirsty or cruel unlike the other races but has this ever been brought up before? You should know the popular view among ppl even among sinkee chinese on how cruel and evil they view prc chinese and in fact all chinese. It's a very odd view it's like no matter how cruel others can be like kelings or ang mohs somehow they are never held accountable and it's the opposite for the chinese. A chinese so much as glares at someone he's a bloodthirsty evil person and his entire race is judged like that.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Re: Mao Betrayed His People From Day One

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Mao was a run dog for Stalin anyway. There's a saying that China was split into 3 - Russia, Japan and R.O.C.

The question till today was not resolved: why Mongolia was allowed to be free from the Chinese Empire ? Did Mao sold the Chinese out ?


Did china get back those lands from burma, india, tajikstan etc?

I read some article that china didn't manage to get back the sarklin or how you spell islands near the manchuria region. Also outer mongolia which is just desert wasteland anyhow. The better part of mongolia is of course inner mongolia.
 

Ramseth

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The chinese aren't so blood thirsty or cruel unlike the other races but has this ever been brought up before? You should know the popular view among ppl even among sinkee chinese on how cruel and evil they view prc chinese and in fact all chinese. It's a very odd view it's like no matter how cruel others can be like kelings or ang mohs somehow they are never held accountable and it's the opposite for the chinese. A chinese so much as glares at someone he's a bloodthirsty evil person and his entire race is judged like that.

Chinese have gone softened by Tang dynasty. Chinese used to be most bloodthirsty, vengeful and unforgiving. Ethnic cleansing and genocide were not uncommon. More than 2,000 years ago already Qin Shihuang and Chu Bawang could order the mass execution of hundreds of thousands at one go. What went on more than 4,000 years ago to lay the foundation of China and went unrecorded could be anyone's guess.
 
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Jah_rastafar_I

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Chinese have gone softened by Tang dynasty. Chinese used to be most bloodthirsty, vengeful and unforgiving. Ethnic cleansing and genocide were not uncommon. More than 2,000 years ago already Qin Shihuang and Chu Bawang could order the mass execution of hundreds of thousands at one go. What went on more than 4,000 years to lay the foundation of China and went unrecorded could be anyone's guess.


Gone soft to their dismay correct?

I mean i guess it's good they aren't so bloodthristy in these times but comeon ask yourself. Do you think that's the world view of chinese ppl? They always view chinese ppl as barbaric no matter how soft they have become. In fact for the chinese it's sort of become like a paradox. Ang mohs will hold chinese as more barbaric than themselves. Yet they'll still say they are more "hardcore" as in their ang moh gangs and fighters are tougher and better than chinese ones but chinese ppl still are more barbaric which is kind of an oxymoron.

It's ridiculous and should be changed.
 
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