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Baba Teo tries to link his Noble Clan with Cannon Sun aka 孙大炮

mscitw

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Baba Teo tries to up his kinsman's status by linking his ancestors' support of 孙大炮.

It is doomed to fail.

Of late, the Internet has news linking Baba Teo's family to the Imperial Family. The fact presents that the Teo clan is among the blue blood nobles that supported the Imperial Clan. Baba Teo, trying to de-link such cushy relationships tried to awe peasants by telling them his ancestors, despite swearing allegiance to the British Monarch are 孙大炮's supporters.

孙大炮, despite glowing adoration by the Chinks is but another Steve Jobs, an expert of Reality Distortion Field. 孙大炮 was the con man who preached continuous revolutions as the only solution and will work with any devils who could aid him. That explains his willingness to work with the Soviets and accept the commies in the fold against the warlords. 孙大炮 was naive to believe that the Soviets are his friends and Leninist tactics are heaven-sent.

In addition, many overseas chinks howled for 孙大炮's blood over his Patriotic War Bonds. He is no different from con men who fleece others to raise funds to for at least 10 badly uprisings. While Huang Xing does the fighting, he waltz into history books as the Paramount Revolutionary. In his personal life, he is another typical Chink Emperor who revels in young women while formenting unpractical schemes against the warlords. Despite the overthrow of the Manchus, the Xin Hai Uprising is hardly an success as the young republic rapidly degenerate into chaos with the demise of warlord Yuan up north. Clever peasants will know the Xin Hai revolution was an accident over petty thievery involving the Wuhan bandits pretending to be government troops.
 
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http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?102716-辛亥百年-铭记革命牺牲的烈士勇士谋士Tuesday, October 11, 2011
辛亥百年 铭记革命牺牲的烈士勇士谋士



我谨向辛亥革命的所有烈士勇士谋士致敬。

晚清的腐朽是这些前辈剔除的。没有他们的牺牲,我们不可能进步到今日的程度。
但是我们应当谨记在被电影和艺术美化之前的辛亥革命原貌。在感人的改造背后有更多更真实的教训和学习材料。革命总被美化的失去了真实。

实际上,世界没有完美的革命。辛亥革命也是在百般失误和挫折当中挣扎完成的。

孙中山同盟会革命党共进会等人,其实缺乏完善的计划和安排,人力物力财力资源皆不足。沟通联系和共识也极糟糕。但是这些老前辈依然是拼着去进行和完成了历史使命。

武昌起义其实是在军火意外爆炸惊动了清朝官府之下被迫立刻发动的。由于距离原定的起义计划还有数日,孙中山还未回到中国,他是看美国的报纸才发现武昌起义已经爆发。

能迫使满清王朝退位的变数,其中袁世凯的成分巨大。这是革命党派原先未预料到的,更别说有相关的计划。张勋复辟和袁世凯复辟,北洋军阀的一连串问题,根本就是混乱一片,糟糕透顶的局面。可以说彻底失控。二次革命还失败,革命党被北洋剿杀,逃亡至日本。可谓是失败挫折连连。根本就只是全靠恒心毅力来再三的克服和重振的。

日本帝国在辛亥革命的时刻,实际上是三番四次的支持革命党和孙中山。满清剿杀时革命党和孙中山经常都躲在日本靠日本人的保护。北洋剿杀革命党,也是日本庇护的。革命党也是在日本成立的而不是在中国成立。

可以见的日本帝国当年原先的策略是扶植孙中山革命,然后建立中日关系来使用中国的资源的。但是多年的革命和混乱局面再三的失败,日本人看出这原来的扶植计划是一塌糊涂不可行的。所以才改变了成侵略和夺取资源的计划。

换句话说,如果辛亥革命当年是顺利完美的,中日关系必然不同。二战的局面也不同。

孙中山留学日本,在日本成立革命党,受日本庇护和支持革命。如果成功建立安稳完善的统治政权。必然会是日本帝国的亲密盟友。日本如果有中国的庞大资源去开发,它又何必劳师动众的去发动太平洋战争呢?

至少策略上的思考是这样的。日本人扶植国民党不成,和北洋合作也合不成,它勃勃的野心没有机会和资源发展所以决心用军力发动太平洋战争去侵占获取它所需要的资源。

事实上满清起初还是比日本强大,令日本惧怕的。日本是吃过满清的北洋舰队的亏又羡慕又害怕,才发奋图强,建立打败北洋舰队的雄厚海军。我指的特别是光绪12年的长崎事件。

日本的侵略政策其实先是针对俄罗斯然后才转对中国,日俄战争比卢沟桥事变早33年。

辛亥革命是这33年当中的第7年。 (日俄战争1904;辛亥革命1911;卢沟桥事变1937)

回顾辛亥革命到国共内战的历史里面,就是烽烟四起,民不聊生,一片狼藉。即使仅仅看推翻满清成立中华民国的这段历史,所有的进程都是拉拉扯扯,混乱多变,节外生枝的。
所以我的希望是新加坡人如果要革命,千万别搞成这副模样。实在无章无法太过波折腾突啦!


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辛亥百年 铭记革命牺牲的烈士勇士谋士

换句话说,如果辛亥革命当年是顺利完美的,中日关系必然不同。二战的局面也不同。

孙中山留学日本,在日本成立革命党,受日本庇护和支持革命。如果成功建立安稳完善的统治政权。必然会是日本帝国的亲密盟友。日本如果有中国的庞大资源去开发,它又何必劳师动众的去发动太平洋战争呢?

至少策略上的思考是这样的。日本人扶植国民党不成,和北洋合作也合不成,它勃勃的野心没有机会和资源发展所以决心用军力发动太平洋战争去侵占获取它所需要的资源。

事实上满清起初还是比日本强大,令日本惧怕的。日本是吃过满清的北洋舰队的亏又羡慕又害怕,才发奋图强,建立打败北洋舰队的雄厚海军。我指的特别是光绪12年的长崎事件。

日本的侵略政策其实先是针对俄罗斯然后才转对中国,日俄战争比卢沟桥事变早33年。

辛亥革命是这33年当中的第7年。 (日俄战争1904;辛亥革命1911;卢沟桥事变1937)

good piece. Uncle Yap.

the root cause of China's turmoil and chaos from 1911 to 1937 can be traced to the Russo-Japanese rivalry, their ambitions to extend territorial and economic concessions in China. Japan and Russia perceived the other party as a bulwark against territories expansions in the Far East. as events unfolded, Japan ambitions grew and she invaded Manchuria in 1931. the Russians would instigate the Chinese Communists to conduct attacks on Japanese interests in China, the result of their actions escalated and deepen the conflicts and antagonism between the Chinese and Japanese governments. the Russians and Chinese Communists would successfully lit the fuse of the second Sino-Japanese war in 1937.
 
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Chaos in China only spell good news for 日本大帝国, nothing amazing about that. However the real danger to China is not foreigners but the crazy depots that prop up in her history e.g. Qin SH, Mao ZD, Li Peng etc.

The Japs killed 20 million chinese during the second sino-jap war but Butcher Mao only took 4 years to kill 45 million chinese peasants with silly economic disasters. The Japs are murderous baboons during the WWII but the commies are the best when they use tanks to stream roll civilians during Tian Nan Men (thanks to Li Peng's ingenious idea). Li Peng must have made Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot look like school boys in his innovative use of tanks. In fact, both Moslem and Christian satans ought to learn from Li Peng in his tank warfare.
 
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good piece. Uncle Yap.

the root cause of China's turmoil and chaos from 1911 to 1937 can be traced to the Russo-Japanese rivalry, their ambitions to extend territorial and economic concessions in China. Japan and Russia perceived the other party as a bulwark against territories expansions in the Far East. as events unfolded, Japan ambitions grew and she invaded Manchuria in 1931. the Russians would instigate the Chinese Communists to conduct attacks on Japanese interests in China, the result of their actions escalated and deepen the conflicts and antagonism between the Chinese and Japanese governments. the Russians and Chinese Communists would successfully lit the fuse of the second Sino-Japanese war in 1937.

The CCP have it military committee set within it's CEC aka 中央军事委员会 and clutch the military as integral part of party giving the wrong impression of it's true past. The early days of CCP were essentially a pure civilian ideologist party, not armed at all. They became armed when KMT & American instigators mounted annihilation campaigns against them. They then started to fight guerrilla warfare or own survivor. People like Mao 周恩来 & many core members were dual membership having KMT membership as well, and the 2 parties were once like brothers, way before they started to fight each other in a civil war.

李敖 showed on TV talk shows an official historic archive showing that KMT internal record of payroll stated that they had owed 毛泽东 some salaries unpaid until today. That means he served as perm staff of party (office bearer).

Similar to 孙中山 relation with Japan, CCP members were students graduated from Russian Universities = 留学生。孙中山 studied medicines in Japan. Even the son of CKS 蒋经国 (总统) studied in Moscow and had a Russian wife. They were the Chinese youth inspired by Soviet Revolution.
 

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He's A Conman Who Thinks All Sinkies Are Stupid ...

Baba Teo tries to up his kinsman's status by linking his ancestors' support of 孙大炮.

It is doomed to fail.

Of late, the Internet has news linking Baba Teo's family to the Imperial Family. The fact presents that the Teo clan is among the blue blood nobles that supported the Imperial Clan. Baba Teo, trying to de-link such cushy relationships tried to awe peasants by telling them his ancestors, despite swearing allegiance to the British Monarch are 孙大炮's supporters.

Despite the overthrow of the Manchus, the Xin Hai Uprising is hardly an success as the young republic rapidly degenerate into chaos with the demise of warlord Yuan up north. Clever peasants will know the Xin Hai revolution was an accident over petty thievery involving the Wuhan bandits pretending to be government troops.



Teo is a conman in the first place. So what if his ancestor was a patriot ? Can he search his heart and say "Yes ! I'm also a patriot !"

If I were his great grandfather or grandfather, I would have disowned him for helping the Lee dynasty tightening the fascist and imperialistic fist on its people. I will tell him, "I will not want to have such a useless and treacherous traitor as my grandson. Go, don't (you) even attend my funeral. I don't want my good name to be tarnished by such a relative or family member. Change your surname if you can. We, Teos do not need such a 'general' in our humble family."

In military, sometimes, things do not go the way you plan it but the heavenly hand will put a bridge to close a gap to success.
 

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For the infidels who think that the Christian or Moslem satans are the fall guys, look no further than the Commies in China. If you read the bad translations of the Torah and the revisionist new 'holy' sagas of the Abrahamic faiths, you probably conclude both satans are no much for the swines lurking in the Maoist CCP. The goondu Anton LaVey, if he learns of Li Peng's brutish tactics, will immediately discard his satans and proclaim the CCP as the best evil organisation. Anton despite his high IQ is nothing but a circus performer who will pee in his pants if forced to issue the Tank Steamrolling Order.

If Qin Shi Huang was resurrected, he will find the tank steamrolling move a master piece that make Idi Amin poo in his pants. It is conclusive when it comes to brutish tactics and barbaric methods, the CCP has no match. Baboons may claimed Ying Zheng created the longest graveyard but compared to the mass starvation over silly blast furnaces, the CCP has a 45 million head count. Ying Zheng will be embarassed by calling himself the best despot of all time.

This is probably 孙大炮's greatest flawed assessment of the Soviets, with appointing Chiang the second fiasco. The Soviets' main intention is to subvert the KMT from within as military victory is impossible during the warlord era. 孙大炮 naively believed unity with the commies CCP is necessary and that sealed the corrupt KMT's fate after Butcher Mao collaborated with the Japs to give the KMT a good beating during the 2nd Sino-Japanese War.

Butcher Mao realised the Ming was defeated because the baboons Wu and Li slugged it out decided to play the role of the Manchus. Hence in the 99 major engagements between the Japs and KMT, the Commies were totally invisible.
 
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Baba Teo should pick a leaf from history and finish off the Imperial Family using a master stroke. There is no reason why he should kowtow to the Imperial Family. The reigning Baba Emperor is notorious for serving the Japs during WWII but Baba Teo could easily crowed his ancestors are anti-Manchu revolutionaries. Baba Teo could learn from Tokuguwa by patiently waiting for Baba Emperor's passing to the nether regions and ultimately chipping off Ruler Loong using a series of clever sabotages.

One possible tactic could be the revelation of Gecko Kwa's wealth hoard. Another possible opening could be the fiscal financial hole in the pension fund caused by silly speculative mistakes in UBS and Citibank. Housing woes could be exploited by informing peasants that 500k for 99 leasehold pigeonholes is a great joke since the Last Supper.
 
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Bloody Mao !

For the infidels who think that the Christian or Moslem satans are the fall guys, look no further than the Commies in China. If you read the bad translations of the Torah and the revisionist new 'holy' sagas of the Abrahamic faiths, you probably conclude both satans are no much for the swines lurking in the Maoist CCP. The goondu Anton LaVey, if he learns of Li Peng's brutish tactics, will immediately discard his satans and proclaim the CCP as the best evil organisation. Anton despite his high IQ is nothing but a circus performer who will pee in his pants if forced to issue the Tank Steamrolling Order.

If Qin Shi Huang was resurrected, he will find the tank steamrolling move a master piece that make Idi Amin poo in his pants. It is conclusive when it comes to brutish tactics and barbaric methods, the CCP has no match. Baboons may claimed Ying Zheng created the longest graveyard but compared to the mass starvation over silly blast furnaces, the CCP has a 45 million head count. Ying Zheng will be embarassed by calling himself the best despot of all time.

This is probably 孙大炮's greatest flawed assessment of the Soviets, with appointing Chiang the second fiasco. The Soviets' main intention is to subvert the KMT from within as military victory is impossible during the warlord era. 孙大炮 naively believed unity with the commies CCP is necessary and that sealed the corrupt KMT's fate after Butcher Mao collaborated with the Japs to give the KMT a good beating during the 2nd Sino-Japanese War.

Butcher Mao realised the Ming was defeated because the baboons Wu and Li slugged it out decided to play the role of the Manchus. Hence in the 99 major engagements between the Japs and KMT, the Commies were totally invisible.


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